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Started by: bambam (2120)

This is the third page of this series. Other getting on the large side..... like me.
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ex-downall greeners2

Started: 29th Apr 2010 at 19:24
Last edited by bambam: 29th Apr 2010 at 19:31:43

Posted by: trixie (5019) 



bambam.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:09

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi trixie how ya doin.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:11

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Ok. how are you doin?

Your Tinas hooked on facebook etc.no time for us now.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:39

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i know, i cannot get into that it seems to soak up all your time, im doin fine not been on in a while had heavy workload.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:45

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

All work and no play's not good for you,unless you saving up for something really nice.

I had a do with the cafe but it takes your life over.
Have you heard from Brian lately not been on here at all.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:51

Posted by: bambam (2120)

No trixie heard nowt from brian, hope he's ok i will ask mick middlehurst next time i see him.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 20:55

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now there's a name from my past.

I bet Brians reading these posts,little Monkey.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:05

Posted by: bambam (2120)

you could be right trixie, i think he will be in touch shortly, he's bound to come on for a peep.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:10

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I knew Michael many years ago.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:12

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i see michael about three times a week when i go to ashton, he aint changed a bit in all the years ive known him.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:17

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I did see him on a photo on here somwhere.Ithink it was in blue bell.

He looked the same.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:19
Last edited by trixie: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:21:15

Posted by: bambam (2120)

He is on a couple of pics on my blog, he never seems to age any his birthday is july when he turns 66.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:24

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes he's a year older than me.

Replied: 29th Apr 2010 at 21:26
Last edited by trixie: 30th Apr 2010 at 09:17:16

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

His Mother Thelma is still going strong as well , she bought a computer last year so was told & she must be getting on a bit,

Replied: 30th Apr 2010 at 19:11

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

She must be in her late 70's now.

Replied: 30th Apr 2010 at 19:16

Posted by: bambam (2120)

she is in her eighties now.

Replied: 30th Apr 2010 at 19:53

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

ye your right she is if Michael is 66.

Replied: 30th Apr 2010 at 20:40

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Thanks for starting a new thread bambam sameone may come up with something interesting about the old place

Replied: 30th Apr 2010 at 21:45

Posted by: bambam (2120)

I hope so dougie, its been a good thread upto now with lots of interesting people and good posts, iv'e really enjoyed it.

Replied: 1st May 2010 at 04:57

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bam bam i saw brian on the last bus home last night .hes looking fine as usual he had beento ashton with tony .hows gwylam doing not seen him.

Replied: 1st May 2010 at 16:11

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hi Bert.how are you doing?

Last bus!!!!at your age.

Not heard anything about Gwilym,Brian usually keeps me informed.

Replied: 1st May 2010 at 19:28
Last edited by trixie: 1st May 2010 at 19:29:40

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Last bus at his age Trixie Brian would already be on the bus and Bert would only have time to say hello before getting off, if he had to pay he would have walk it

Replied: 1st May 2010 at 22:27

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, gwylam was in wigan last week he's doin fine but not to good on the old trotters, it was nice to see him after his recent illness.

Replied: 1st May 2010 at 23:34

Posted by: peemac (28)

does anybody remember the bloke who mended clogs in a workshop in the backs behind annie deacons shop,and what his name was. also do they remember there being a chipshop in annie deacons backyard.

Replied: 2nd May 2010 at 14:01

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi peemac, i don't remember any of those i think it was before my time, it certainly sounds interesting hope someone replies.

Replied: 2nd May 2010 at 20:45

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

There are others on here that can answer this better, but...

Annie Deacons shop was sometimes called the shoe shop, but I cant recall that she did sell shoes, although I do recall her selling wool. There was someone who repaired shoes or clogs there from a workshop in the backs, but if I remember correctly, it was one or two houses down. it was still there late 50's, early 60's.

Drifting a little, if we reckon that Rectory Road started at Booths Brow road, and finished at the Legion, I counted that around 1960 or so, there were 14 or 15 small businesses on or adjacnet to it. Where did they all go?

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 14:49

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hello Joe where have you been?

I thought you'd emigrated..

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 15:24

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Hibernating from the snow!

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 15:34

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Snow! What snow.

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 15:53

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Trixie--Just mention Downall Green he will keep popping up Shaws had it as a shoe shop before Deacin's took over and she did start selling wool as well as shoes, Shaws also owned the house next door to the shop which he had his shed for repairing shoes/clogs, when Annie Deacin took over the shop Shaws moved next door he still did his repairs,

Yes there was a chippy in the back yard of the shop but don't know how ran it may not have been Shaws or Deacins that had it Bentlegs should now he's owder than me
saying that he didn't remember the fair coming to Downall Green did he

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 16:50
Last edited by dougie: 3rd May 2010 at 16:55:25

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

There were two shoe menders R pee, Charlie Shaw & nex door but one Ronnie Heyes Dad, cont remember his fust name, Come on Tumtingle , tell me were't fair wuz.

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 16:57

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Top of Victoria Road across from the church on Waterworths field would say about 1952 only remember one cobbler in Downall Green,is Ronnie Sams lad as they lived next but one to the shop

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 17:47

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Dougie, Charlie Shaw had that shop as a shoe shop& repairs, i think he retired in middle 40s, Ronnie was the old cobblers son&so was Sam as far as i can remember, Dont remember the fair ,

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 18:51

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtell you would be down Ashton or Wigan looking for different girls to them that would be on the fair from Downall Green

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 19:12

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Happen

Replied: 3rd May 2010 at 19:51

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Just been given an old Church Magazine from 1915 these are two pages i've coped

Replied: 5th May 2010 at 09:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now i remember..

Replied: 5th May 2010 at 10:07

Posted by: bambam (2120)

That's a blast from the past dougie, brilliant.

Replied: 5th May 2010 at 18:34

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Bartons opened the chippy at the side of the shop Dougie, it didn't last very long.

Replied: 5th May 2010 at 19:15

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Your right Tumtingle I remember now, nout rung wit brain box ye I see

Replied: 5th May 2010 at 20:48

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I dont remember that chippie, but wasn't there one at the top as well? That didnt last long either, if memory serves. Perhaps we didnt like to eat chips?

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 07:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

There was one for years at the top of rectory road till the pulled the houses down ,i think.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 08:54

Posted by: erwick (135)

The chippie at the back of Annie Deacon's was owned by Alice Barton, where the garage was behind the "Wool shop".
I have a listing of Rectory Road in 1950 which gives the house number and the Occupiers.
It makes interesting reading.

The chippie at the top of Rectory Road was Tommy Aspinall's, not sure if he started the business or if someone had it before him.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 09:50

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Yes Tommy did start the cippy in the 50s,he also had a 12 seat mine bus and two coaches bambams dad drove for him at that time,one was very posh for the 50s it had curtains on the windows, always remember about 1957 Gerry taking a group of us up to lake Windermere camping in the 12 seater

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 10:30

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Was you at this school 45 years age remember this

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 10:58

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Who has the chip shop now in rectory road?

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 11:16

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

------------ THIS IS fOR YOUR HELP----------
Don't for get as the thread gets bigger press the END key on the keyboard to take you to the last posting

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 11:36

Posted by: erwick (135)

Dougie,
I'm not sure if the concert question was directed to me or a general question, but I think this was the Central School concert, I went to the Grammar School.
I recognise two names on the programme, Madeline Aspinall and Peter Ashley, both ex Spindle Hillock, like me.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 11:45

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

No it was just a general question as it was given to me with other things for me to look at,by the badge on the programme I would say it was the old Grammar school

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 11:56

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie the chip shop on rectory rd is a chinese .i think.not tried it got a good one at bryn and every other takeaway from round the world it seems.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 21:18

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie was sudworths shop at the top of rectory rd opposite end to chippy.and did dunnes take over after.i remember the chippy at the back of deacons and the cobbler loved the smell in the cobblers.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 21:26

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes Bert it was Sudworths nearest church, then it was Dunnes who lived in Leyland green road next door to thomas's.

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 21:32
Last edited by trixie: 6th May 2010 at 21:36:41

Posted by: bert (685)

tommy aspinall started the chippy at the top of rectory rd then jones took over had a son ken fater ran the lifeboys for awhile .then richard ecclestons mum took over .me and peemac used to sit in there in winter to keep mrs ecclestone company and keep warm oh happy days .

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 21:45

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I remember Mrs Eccleston but i don't know peemac?do i?

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 21:55

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

trixi my mum was a downagreener joan turner she would have been 73 this year she also has a sister ann she is 58 they used to live in cedar grove next to betty and tommy sheperd my grand parents were agness and jack

Replied: 6th May 2010 at 23:09

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

rbilly, your Ann and I were in the same class at Rectory school.

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 08:03

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Sorry rbilly don't know them,different age group to me.

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 09:02

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

hello uncle joe will i no you..? do you live or did live on downhall green. my brother also lived on downhallgreen untill he got married

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 10:08

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I was born in DG, in the house that is at the corner of Cedar Grove. Your Ann will remember me.

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 10:19

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Hi brilly--knew your mother very well as we was of the same age group and all played together for years,I lived at the bottom of the grove and you always remember my friends from your childhood, also know one of her son's met him by chance years ago and got talking about Downall Green and his mum small world

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 11:06

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie,i lived in poplar ave then moved to hawthorn ave, like bert says many a warm night spent in the chippy

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 18:51

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

When did you move to DG?

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 18:59

Posted by: peemac (28)

i was born and bred on downall green till i was 20 yrs old then we moved to nicol rd. i now live on downall green rd

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 19:08

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Sorry,I mean Hawthorne avenue.

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 19:21

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Uncle Joe, Did you play the trombone in North Ashton Band?

Replied: 7th May 2010 at 19:44

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Sorry, bentlegs, that wasn't me. I dont get along with musical instruments of any kind... both Dougie and Trixie know exactly who I am

Peemac, if you lived in Poplar, before 1969, then I think that we must know each other.

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 11:35

Posted by: peemac (28)

uncle joe, i was one of your brothers mates along with bert,barry,danny, keith,arthur chisnall.i lived on the other side of island where bert lived.

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 12:45

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Now I think I know who you are. I take it you did hear what happened to my brother?

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 12:57

Posted by: peemac (28)

uncle joe, yes i had seen your message on wigan world,it was a big shock to hear about him passing away,we were about the same age. hope you are keeping well.

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 13:02

Posted by: bert (685)

hi peemac nice to see you on here. fancy trixie not knowing you i thought everybody remembered you once seen never forgotten.i thought you knew about uncle joes brother told chissy and howard.

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 16:59

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

If you tell me his name i might know.


Will you let me know Joe?

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 17:48
Last edited by trixie: 8th May 2010 at 17:50:50

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

hi ya dougi do you mean terry who you were talking to would it have been in the bowling club by any chance?

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 20:12

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

No he started work at Reeds years ago your mum was still alive then, said next time you see your mum ask her did she remember a Dougie that lived at Downall Green he finished up will a top job they tell me

Replied: 8th May 2010 at 22:52

Posted by: peemac (28)

bert, trixie doesn,t know me i,ve not twigged who trixie is, i didn,t, i only see chissy n howard now and again.

Replied: 9th May 2010 at 09:52

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, is the chissy you are on about the one that lived in birch grove then later moved to d-green rd.

Replied: 9th May 2010 at 21:03

Posted by: bert (685)

hi peemac you must remember trixie she lived with her grandma lizzie next to hobsons.had a lovelly head of red hair.hi bam bam yes thats chissy.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 17:33

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now can you give ME some info on peemac please.
seeing as everybody knows what i look like!!!!!

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 17:58

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie you remember bentlegs wellremember who he married.peemac is his brother in law .pee mac had a brother george they lived at the opposite endof hawthorn ave.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 18:05

Posted by: peemac (28)

bert, ahm tuned in nay thowd gray matter teks u bit fot warm up.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 18:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hey Bert i don't know who Bentlegs married.
The only one i know whith a brother George is jondav?

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 18:52

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie. i lived in poplar ave originally near the island next door to mrs smith

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 19:29

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Sorry on wiser now.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 19:36

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie, lived next door but one to alwyn

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 20:13

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

WHO.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 20:25

Posted by: peemac (28)

evans

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 20:33

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

sorry

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 20:45

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie, going up to the island from the jones,s -shaws -hursts- evans -smiths- peemacs -island -bert

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 21:07

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Are you Married to Judith?
I should have realised with your name.
am gerrin forgetful yo no.

If you are our Mams worked together at Cromptons.

Was it Molly that married bentlegs?
I remember Ann Jones + Alwyn evans they were in same year as me.

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 21:20
Last edited by trixie: 12th May 2010 at 22:06:05

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie, yes it is our molly,got there at last

Replied: 12th May 2010 at 22:23

Posted by: bert (685)

hi you two its like watching a comedy whos memory goes first.our mary falls out with me use my mrmory is so good.its nice to know youve got it .our ethel was asking how you was pee. we was talking about when we you used to peddle up tohindley green when we were younger.

Replied: 13th May 2010 at 12:50

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Peddle up to Hindley green!!!!!!!My good ness me.
They could'nt peddle to local chippy theses days they need a car.

Replied: 13th May 2010 at 13:57

Posted by: peemac (28)

bert, tell your ethel ahm awreet, i keep tekkin mi pills n stuff, talkin u beaht bike riding ah cudn"t manidge it to yore heahse neh un its ah deahn bru

Replied: 13th May 2010 at 14:16

Posted by: peemac (28)

trixie, our mams did work together at cromptons, also yes i am married to judith

Replied: 13th May 2010 at 14:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

ah no's yu no.

I've got me thinkin head on today.

Replied: 13th May 2010 at 14:29

Posted by: bert (685)

just been up downall green watching my grandson playing football.he plays for st peters. st peters won 3 nil he was over the moon.totally lost when i got to the field ar back of what was tommy evans shop where did them big hills come from werent there when we were kids .first time ive been there for years.

Replied: 14th May 2010 at 17:08

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Ger away with you it's always bin flat.

Ant it????

Replied: 14th May 2010 at 18:52

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Never been any different Burt, Always been on a slope,

Replied: 14th May 2010 at 19:13

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

from Bert-- I've just been up downall green, never hard that before how can anyone go up downall green

Replied: 14th May 2010 at 23:53

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hee Hee, i bet he went up soughers lane dougie.

Replied: 15th May 2010 at 13:13

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bentlegs iknew it was a slope. bu..t now its a sharp hill. and dougie its always been a laugh because they say going up downall green well us young ones .it is up hill from our house.

Replied: 15th May 2010 at 15:00

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I cant resist saying this, but if we went "down Ashton" from Downall Green, wouldn't we come "up Downall Green" on the way back?

Replied: 15th May 2010 at 16:23

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

You walk up from ashton to downall green up wigan rd,up low bank rd .up liverpool rd.downall green is in a valley so work that out?

Replied: 15th May 2010 at 21:28

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Your right From Downall green you go up Spindle Hillock, up Billinge, up Rectory road, up Leyland green road,and up to Brocstedes
Come on how can you go up to Downall Green from anywhere

Replied: 15th May 2010 at 22:33
Last edited by dougie: 15th May 2010 at 22:35:36

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie we never said we were going up spindle hillock.or were going up brocstedes. we just said we were going brocstedes.so billinge. and leyland green rd is up.

Replied: 16th May 2010 at 16:31

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, Do you remember a young girl getting drowned over the Fifty's when they had outcroped it, it must have been 48-49 , just somthing me & a friend were discussing,

Replied: 18th May 2010 at 23:25

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, not to sure where we are on this one, if i go to downallgreen from wigan via windy arbour were going uphill then down hill,if i go a49 way then take soughers lane or rose hill were uphill then onto flat, if we go billinge from downallgreen we are climbing again, so we must be inbetween not to sure whether we are up or down.

Replied: 20th May 2010 at 18:23

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Or when we were down we were up.

Replied: 20th May 2010 at 18:31

Posted by: bambam (2120)

whey hey, you are reet trixie.

Replied: 20th May 2010 at 18:52

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Owd Duke of York caused it,

Replied: 20th May 2010 at 23:52

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtingle, Do you remember a young girl getting drowned over the Fifty's when they had outcroped it, it must have been 48-49 , just somthing me & a friend were discussing,

Yes it was very sad as not many got killed in them days as they do today, with all the cars and daft things children get up to

Replied: 21st May 2010 at 10:47

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtell, just been told that the girl was Ken Fairhurst sister, they lived on Elm Ave,

Replied: 21st May 2010 at 22:43

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

yes thats right I think she was the youngest was in the same class as one of his sisters at Downall Green school

Replied: 21st May 2010 at 22:56

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bentlegs, i remember my father telling me about that sad event, i lived across rd from ken and ethel in elm ave for a long time.

Replied: 21st May 2010 at 23:59

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I think Ken was married to Ethel.

Replied: 22nd May 2010 at 08:59
Last edited by trixie: 22nd May 2010 at 09:00:40

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi rbilly, have you a brother named terry, i used to knock about with the lads from cedar grove.

Replied: 23rd May 2010 at 09:57

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie ken was married to ethel. but sadly ken died along time ago.bam bam i see terry pretty often at my daughters we sing on karaoke together and usually finish quite drunk bad influence on us old ones.ha ha .

Replied: 23rd May 2010 at 14:10

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Well i did'nt know Ken had died.

There must be others i don't know about too.

Replied: 23rd May 2010 at 15:33

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I'm still trying to work out who Terry from Cedar Grove was. I certainly dont remember anybody by that name. Can someone answer that?

Replied: 23rd May 2010 at 19:57

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Ken & Ethel have a son who is the head cheff at the Beeches in Standish, He's been there years, born the same day as my elest lad & in the next bed,

Replied: 25th May 2010 at 20:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

You mean Robert and has red hair?
Must be in his early forties now.

Replied: 25th May 2010 at 21:25

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

hi bam bam i do have a brother terry and yes he does sing with bert and the terry you are on about is terry feeley my baby brother

Replied: 25th May 2010 at 22:48

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi rbilly, thanks for that i know him well.

Replied: 26th May 2010 at 16:50

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bentlegs, i remember robert and maree from elm ave, did not know he worked at beeches though thanks for that.

Replied: 26th May 2010 at 16:56

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Well BamBam looks like you've done it again keeping the thread going instead of letting it die by uploading Downall Green 3 , 1066 views and 123 replies in a month not bad that

Replied: 26th May 2010 at 17:30

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks dougie, it seems to do well this thread i really enjoy all the info the old greeners put on, i hope it keeps up as well.

Replied: 26th May 2010 at 17:45

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Just brought it to the top , thats all,

Replied: 2nd Jun 2010 at 19:19

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Ok.

Replied: 2nd Jun 2010 at 19:27

Posted by: whups (4823) 

just to let people know that ken taylor passed away today .

Replied: 2nd Jun 2010 at 21:56

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks for info bri, i will let our lil know. RIP KEN.

Replied: 2nd Jun 2010 at 22:51

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtingle I'll never catch you up but it was my Birthday a few weeks ago, has your Tom had he's yet
I got more bottles this was just the first lot should last a few months Tumtell

Replied: 3rd Jun 2010 at 11:40

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, He wouldn't sup that stuff , he's a pint man, his birthday is 30th july,

Replied: 3rd Jun 2010 at 22:35

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i will give you a lift with that dougie, can't beat a good tipple

Replied: 4th Jun 2010 at 22:12

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtel, Dont sup it all on thi birthday,

Replied: 4th Jun 2010 at 22:33

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bri, any news on ken's funeral.

Replied: 5th Jun 2010 at 22:15

Posted by: whups (4823) 

not as yet dav.

Replied: 6th Jun 2010 at 16:51

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Is it Phillis's husband you mean?
Hows Gwilym Brian?
Iv'e not heard from our John for ages.

Replied: 6th Jun 2010 at 17:27

Posted by: whups (4823) 

ken taylor,s funeral on fri @ holy trinity @ 12-30 . gwyllam,s still getting out marge.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 11:09

Posted by: royboy (24)

Hi all. Not been on here for ages and just spent a lot of hours catching up. It saddens me to hear about the people that have died since I was last on, especialy Johns(Sammy)wife.
I have put some picks on my blog from the early 90s on New years eve in the club. Some would be interesting to estele who was asking for pics of the Wilde family. There are a couple of poor Anne on there.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 14:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hi Roy not seen you for a long while.(must be at least 35 years)





Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 15:43

Posted by: whups (4823) 

hi roy ,long time no see.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 16:59

Posted by: royboy (24)

Hi Brian. Must have been about 92 since i left. Living near Preston now all on my lonesome, (bliss). I was up downall green a couple of weeks ago, called at Kevins gardens to have a look at our Pats statue then went to my mam and dads grave. I often think back to my younger days and as far as I am concerned, there is no better place in the world than there.
Hi Marjorie, took me a while to think who you are but think ive got it now.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 17:14

Posted by: royboy (24)

Actualy I definately have got you now Marjorie, how could I have had to think so hard.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 17:16

Posted by: bert (685)

hi royboy how could you forget trixie you lived across the road from each other.nice to see you back on here.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 17:21

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Our Families were friends.but you were only the babbie.


I got funny photos of you all in my wedding album.

Replied: 7th Jun 2010 at 17:57
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Posted by: whups (4823) 

yep roy still in the same house in hawthorn ave.

Replied: 8th Jun 2010 at 00:27

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Royboy, it took zero time for me to remember you, even though we've never seen each other for at least 40 years....

Replied: 8th Jun 2010 at 10:19

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks bri for the info.

Replied: 9th Jun 2010 at 22:58

Posted by: whups (4823) 

no-probs dav.

Replied: 10th Jun 2010 at 14:28

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

hello royboy are you by any chance michelles dad

Replied: 10th Jun 2010 at 23:49

Posted by: royboy (24)

UncleJoe, I have been racking my brains to try and figure out who left from there when you did.
rbilly, I sure am.
Trixie, i know i was the babbie of the family but even all those years ago, I can remeber being at your house. Me Gwylum and John were always there. I have a feeling im going to make a fool of myself here but I cant remeber your husbands name

Replied: 11th Jun 2010 at 02:17

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Royboy, just to make sure thast I've not got you mixed up with someone else, you have a brother, Colin. Is that corrct?

Replied: 13th Jun 2010 at 10:25

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

hello roy my daughter laura was a freind of michelles at st peters along with katherine penningon the 3 muskateers many moons ago that was

Replied: 13th Jun 2010 at 12:42
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

uncle joe-- have you seen the school photo's taken about 1960 on album as your brother is on

Replied: 13th Jun 2010 at 14:57

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes Uncle Joe Roy has brothers Colin and Duncan and John.

Replied: 13th Jun 2010 at 16:07
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Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Trixie: I thought that I was correct for once!

Dougie: Yes, I had seen the school photos. In fact, I have also told his kids about them. i was quite touched by the comment under one of them that he had covered the 100 yards in 12,1 secs in his first year. In his final year, he had got that down to 10,3. I've been trying to find out if that record was ever broken, but nobody seems to know.

Replied: 13th Jun 2010 at 18:07

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

This is for all you old Downall Greeners where ever you are hope it brings some memories back Click photo
P.S. click the little box with the four arrows in to go full screen after its uploaded

Click photo for a Slideshow


Replied: 15th Jun 2010 at 21:39
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Posted by: jouell (4705)

Loved it Dougie...THANK YOU !!!

It's all a lot different from when I was young, but would love to be able to do it again....One of my daughters , her children and their spouses are going over next week, I'm so envious..

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 00:16

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Brilliant, Dougie, and much appreciated.

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 07:59

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

you can't get things like this off google earth

Don't forget to press your END key on the keyboard to get you to the last post as it gets bigger

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 08:39
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Posted by: jouell (4705)

Again dougie, THANK YOU ! just watched it for the umpteenth time, does bring back lot's of memories, the good, bad and the ugly...still wish I was there...

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 12:44

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Thanks a lot Dougie great photos took on a beautiful day.

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 15:17

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie just looked at the photo.i took a friend and my son up downall green to have alook in bluebell wood couldnt get over how overgrown it was and how small it seems now .

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 20:37

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I agree Bert everywhere seemed so big when we were little.
The school field seemed large but i bet it's not.
(apart from that big hill)

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 21:09

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie been having a look at places i used to go when i was young lately. going up drummers lane now they have made a lovely path and park to walk through up to windy arbour now the open cast has gone its lovely lots of wild life already.

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 21:18

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Bert-- I called it bluebell wood it was the Wood/Dell/Gypsy, it's only overgrown because the kids of today don't play out like we did,the Mill fields was the playground for all Downall Greeners in the 50s

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 21:27

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi dougie youre so right there, i spent all my childhood playing in there.

Replied: 16th Jun 2010 at 23:19

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

It doesn't look the same now that the stone wall has gone, it was all that was left of the old corn mill driven by a water wheel,apart from the other wall,if you look over the wall i think there is still some steelwork that held the sluice gates, Tony Rotherham knows quite a lot about it,
( For Tumtingle )

Replied: 17th Jun 2010 at 15:16
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Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Is Dougie on holiday again, he's never awom,

Replied: 22nd Jun 2010 at 19:00

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

He was here this mornin.

Must be due for holiday though.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2010 at 19:41

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Come on you Greeners is this right was posted yesterday by someone
I`m shocked to hear that Ernie Bentham has passed away, I used to be good friends with Ernie.He lived in Downall Green last I saw him. A couple of years younger than me....A lovely lad!! I`m really upset now!!!

Replied: 23rd Jun 2010 at 08:09

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, did Ernie marrie a girl named Shepard or am i on the wrong one,

Replied: 25th Jun 2010 at 19:48

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Yes thats right Tumtell he was married to Jimmy and John Clarks sister first she died along time age, don't know her name

Replied: 25th Jun 2010 at 20:28

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, Thanks for that . I did know him but wasn't sure,

Replied: 25th Jun 2010 at 21:44

Posted by: peemac (28)

dougie, ernie is alive and kicking saw him yesterday walking his dog in spindle hillock peemac

Replied: 27th Jun 2010 at 07:43

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Thanks Pee, as I said it was on another post that he had passed away and I to had only just seen him but I also know it happens, you greeners have let the side down it's taken three day to find out, so I have to take it not many Greeners look on here only ex-greeners, Thanks again Pee

Replied: 27th Jun 2010 at 08:19

Posted by: erwick (135)

Ernie still lives in the house he and Margaret (Clark)lived in which used to be Margaret's parents house.
He lives there with his wife/partner? Irene I think.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2010 at 18:59

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi erwick, i think i knew these people did they work at makerfield mill in 70s.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2010 at 22:02

Posted by: bert (685)

hi erwick is he married to john sheppards sister or am i on the wrong one cant remember him .

Replied: 4th Jul 2010 at 11:09

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, i think ernie was married to margaret, then later married a girl from rectory rd,

Replied: 4th Jul 2010 at 22:11

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Think Ernie married Margaret who was Graham Boyles widow from Rectory Rd, You shook my brain up Bambam.

Replied: 5th Jul 2010 at 00:25

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bentlegs graham boyles wife wasjohn sheperds sister out of cedar grove.

Replied: 5th Jul 2010 at 16:42

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Wer on't reet track then Bert.

Replied: 5th Jul 2010 at 19:16

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now what wus her name then.was she little with short hair?

Replied: 5th Jul 2010 at 20:29

Posted by: bambam (2120)

yes she was trixie, good looking woman but can't remember her name, possibly eileen or irene not to sure.

Replied: 6th Jul 2010 at 00:37

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie her name was shepard and she was small with short hair.she still looks the same now not changed alot.good living.

Replied: 6th Jul 2010 at 11:28

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

She used to work in't Dole in Ashton, Doreen comes to mind but not sure,

Replied: 6th Jul 2010 at 19:01

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

None of them springs to mind.
I may have her mixed up with somebody else.
The couple who i thought,he was very tall and she was small.

Replied: 6th Jul 2010 at 19:40

Posted by: erwick (135)

Hi All,
Sorry I've not got back earlier, but Ernie Bentham married Kathleen Boyle nee Shepherd and yes it is John's sister.
I'm not sure if Margaret Clark worked at Makerfield Mill.

Replied: 7th Jul 2010 at 17:21

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

erwick, think you are right so we can put that one to sleep,

Replied: 7th Jul 2010 at 21:35

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

We were getting way down the page so just brought it up.

Replied: 9th Jul 2010 at 19:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Are we dryin up.
Never knew a greener stuck for a chat.

Replied: 9th Jul 2010 at 19:48

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi erwick, margaret definately worked at makerfield mill in 70s, i remember her well.

Replied: 10th Jul 2010 at 00:06

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie the couple you are thinking of who lived in the grove were chris boland and rita who was richard slaters sister.chris is very tall and rita is small.

Replied: 11th Jul 2010 at 10:37

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I'm sure his name was Graham who i was thinkin of.
must be gerrin owd!!!!nearly 65...going deaf,blind and daft..but still got me own teeth and hair.

Replied: 11th Jul 2010 at 11:55

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

you may no this but . john shepard died a long time ago he lived in morcambe at the time lovely lad lovely family ..their mum betty is still well and still living in downhall green she is an old family freind we all call her aunty betty known the family all my life

Replied: 12th Jul 2010 at 00:06

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie kathleen was married to graham boyle he lived the last house in birch grove next to henleys.rbilly i did know about john he was the same age as me .

Replied: 12th Jul 2010 at 18:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Thats who i must mean.thanks Bert.
Do many of the old lot still live there Bert?

Replied: 12th Jul 2010 at 18:53

Posted by: bert (685)

most of the peoplewho were there when we were younger have either moved or passed away.thats all you seem to hear when you bang into old friends.so keep enjoying life while we have chance going cruising again in a short while.

Replied: 12th Jul 2010 at 19:00

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

We are going on OV last voyage to singapore for a month in nov.

Replied: 12th Jul 2010 at 19:36

Posted by: bert (685)

i hope the one were going on is not its last.its only a couple of years old never been on this line before hope its good my daughter and family are coming with us and her friend and her family .they are not little kids so should be good.

Replied: 14th Jul 2010 at 16:07

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, mick cummins is joining buffs next sunday why dont ya come down to old rd labour club.

Replied: 19th Jul 2010 at 00:44

Posted by: whups (4823) 

just to let people know who remembers a local group called oggi & the membranes a.k.a. alan hodson passed away on friday .

Replied: 19th Jul 2010 at 22:34

Posted by: suesa (596)

Saw this mentioned the other day on here Brian.
I remember Oggie & the Membranes well from when they played Thursday night dances at the Village Club.
Good Memories.
R.I.P. Oggie

Replied: 19th Jul 2010 at 22:50

Posted by: whups (4823) 

seen him in ashton a couple of mths ago & was having a chat with him about the gigs he did in the bell .

Replied: 19th Jul 2010 at 23:21

Posted by: bluesman (246)

Two of my friends who live in Yorkshire,Glenda and Kath Roberts have asked me to enquire about Nurse Stokes who ran the Trinity Girls Band.
They would like to know if she still lives local.Kath would like to get in touch with her regarding information about the owner of a cornet she has just bought.It used to belong to Fred Rose who Glenda said trained the original band.

Replied: 20th Jul 2010 at 20:33

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Bluesman, Nurse Stokes died a few years ago.

Replied: 21st Jul 2010 at 00:06

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Third Chapter ...... and the St.Helens section are still keeping their thread active!

Replied: 21st Jul 2010 at 01:45
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Posted by: trixie (5019) 

It's bin sold to Australia Bert and having a refit in Singapore first.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2010 at 23:31

Posted by: bert (685)

trixie were going on royal caribbean independance of the sea.not been with them before not be long now.grandsons trying to get me on the surf rider part of there enjoyment watching me make mistakes im clumsier than anything .they take extra insurance in case ha ha .

Replied: 24th Jul 2010 at 11:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Why don't you try the rock climbing too.
it sound good.
We've just paid our bill now so skint again.
Let me know how you like it.

Replied: 24th Jul 2010 at 14:55

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie i would be alright trying mounting climbing its hard getting upstairs nowadays.just hope weathers ok.

Replied: 24th Jul 2010 at 16:35

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Bert and Trixie, if you are going on cruises, then you could at least choose one of the boats my nephew is on....

Replied: 25th Jul 2010 at 16:28

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now thats silly when you never did tell me which it was.

Replied: 25th Jul 2010 at 19:41

Posted by: bert (685)

hi uncle joe what line is your nephew on.we may get some little perks if we mention your name.

Replied: 26th Jul 2010 at 14:22

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

He's on The Costa Cruise ships. After his next but one trip, family members get a lot of perks! Mention both my name and his Dads, it will help!

Replied: 26th Jul 2010 at 15:28

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

We might give them a try now that OV will have finished soon.

What job does he do Joe?whats his first name

Got to go on the 2 already booked first before we book anymore.
Has your Wife had her BIG birthday yet?

Replied: 26th Jul 2010 at 16:13

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Trixie, it was celebrated in the Hand Hotel in Chirk. Do you know it?

Replied: 27th Jul 2010 at 16:29

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Did you stay at the Travelodge?
did you go to to the Viaduct?

No i don't know the pub but can you recommend it?

Replied: 27th Jul 2010 at 18:50

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

We went over both the Chirk and Pontcysyllte aqueducts in both directions, getting told off for standing on the roof of the boat videofilming on the return over the latter.

Though theres nothing wrong with the food in the Hand, its much better at a place called The Moorings Restaurant in Anderton. Best pub grub was at the Black Bear in Whitchurch, but that might change in a few days as the chef is moving on to another pub in Oswestry. Julie in the Bear does sell a good pint of bitter, for those that drink it!

Trixie, mail me if you wish.

Replied: 27th Jul 2010 at 19:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

This is ready for a new one again..Bambam.

Replied: 27th Jul 2010 at 19:56

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Alreet trixie, its only a baby yet loads of space.

Replied: 28th Jul 2010 at 23:01

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

It's me "home +end" wats playin up.

i'll hav fot stop talkin so much.

it teks me agiiiss fot ger here.

Replied: 29th Jul 2010 at 10:19

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Trixie, Just press the end button & it will take you to the last post, press Home button to take you to the top.I think Duggie has said this before,

Tumtell

Replied: 29th Jul 2010 at 16:07

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I know that but it was stickin and would only go very very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.it seems ok now...

Replied: 29th Jul 2010 at 16:49

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert are you out there i would like your info regarding buffs.

Replied: 4th Aug 2010 at 23:01

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

I've just found Micks youtube video it's good starts at Windy Arbour through to Wigan, Click photo and see if you can follow it as good as I did, but some of you may go about with your eyes shut


P.S.Give it time to load,I've had to play it again just for the music so the wifes can hear it as she's doing the bed rooms

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 13:20
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

For Mick hope you don't mined me uploading it here as I would just like to point out to the Downall greeners the lovely country side they have on their door step,

Excellent video its a place that I've lived all my life and could follow it every step of the way thanks, you seem to know your way round Mick thats some bike ride Thanks

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 13:39

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I really enjoyed that..Thanks a lot Mick and Dougie.

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 14:03

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I enjoyed it myself, but sadly, after being away from DG for so long couldnt recognise a lot of the places. Could someone post an exact description of the route taken?

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 15:24

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

You wouldn.t recognise any of the places, because NONE of them are Downall Green!

I think Mick has missed out Downall Green on purpose, because it's in St.Helens!

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 17:08

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

It was in the AUDC area when I left, has it been moved?

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 17:15

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

No. But St.Helens has!

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 17:23

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Good slideshow though tonker you must admit,I think this was one that Mick forgot to upload

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 17:23
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Posted by: frances (2831) 

When the boundaries changed in 1974 or there abouts a lot of places changed districts, I lived in Lancashire but after the chage was put in Merseyside, part of Ashton in Makerfied found itself in the St Helens area, I think Downall Green was part of A I M that is now under St Helens but I wonder if the people who live there really accept those changes or do they still think of it as it used to be.

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 17:32

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

It's only the 'local government' (council) that's changed, Frances.
Downall Green is still Downall Green, and it's still part of Ashton in Makerfield regardless of who empties the bins!

That said, it's nothing to do with Wigan, and never has been!

Replied: 8th Aug 2010 at 18:45
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Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Anybody remember Molly Ainscough from Hawthorn Ave & where did she end up,She used to knock hell out of my brother,

Replied: 14th Aug 2010 at 15:56

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Molly had a thing about men.she used to terrify Dickie Smout when they lived across road.No wonder they moved back to Simms Road.

I'm not sure what happened to her but i think her Dad died and was to much for her Mum.

Replied: 14th Aug 2010 at 16:45

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Trixe-- Molly's dad was a dad in a million the way he looked after her he took her everwhere with him, she didn't dislike all man if she liked you she would keep saying so but if she didn't she would let everyone in the club know

Replied: 14th Aug 2010 at 17:18

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I don't think she disliked men,just the opposite Dougie.
yes her Dad was great with her.she also had a thing about closing gates.

Replied: 14th Aug 2010 at 18:37

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie molly went in a home along time ago when luke could not manage her anymore.george davies used to go andvisit her .but ive not seen him for awhile.

Replied: 15th Aug 2010 at 14:19

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bam bam sorry i did not answeryour question ive been cruising the med only got back yesterday.now i need a rest/

Replied: 15th Aug 2010 at 14:21

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Mollie always said to me."don't like you" where's your Eddie.

Replied: 15th Aug 2010 at 19:41

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Me and my Mam were at our front gate one time when Molly and her Mam came by. My Mam and Mrs Ainscough started to talk,when out of the blue, Molly gave me one hell of a thump, almost knocked me over....

Replied: 15th Aug 2010 at 19:47

Posted by: bambam (2120)

That was molly, i don't like you ? wallop.

Replied: 15th Aug 2010 at 23:47

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I always ducked then.

Thats Mollie such a caracter,but we loved her.

Replied: 16th Aug 2010 at 18:36

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I didn't have the chance to duck trixie, she was in back of me and caught me unawares..We had some characters in DG didn't we? Doreen, Molly and there was David ?, he lived toward the bottom end of Poplar Ave..if he ever saw me, he wouldn't leave me alone, followed me everywhere...

Replied: 16th Aug 2010 at 22:46

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Jouell, that would have been David Hayworth, lived at number 11. I wonder what happened to him?

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 07:43

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Photo link Here of an old Downall Greener Arthur Winstanley that past away rest in peace

P.S I think David is in a home(only think) as he may have come home again he was living with his sister in Old Road for years, till she couldn't manage him but will ask next time I see her how their Dived is and get back to you if no one else dose first

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 07:57
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Posted by: trixie (5019) 

He always visited my friend Margaret Halliwell.I will ask her next time i speak to her.

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 09:21

Posted by: jouell (4705)

trixie, is the Margaret you mentioned, Margaret Cooper? We used to be good friends when we were little, spent many many happy hours playing together in her uncles pen across the road from my house.....If it is her, please say Hello from me, next time you see her...

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 13:22

Posted by: jouell (4705)

uncle joe, yes he is the one, I can see Davids face now, but I don't remember names so good..

Dougie, where in DG did Mr Winstanley live? Can't be many old DGs left now, how sad.....I can only think of one and, well, her names slipped my mind now...Thelma ?, she was a beautiful looking lady, I remember that..

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 13:31

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Remember molly, david ,also ronnie and dorothy.

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 16:33

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Hi Remember he was 87 and when he married he moved away from DG to Bryn area heas two son's Brian and Ken and a daughter Heather, but as a lad he lived in the old cottages at the side of the church yard his dad had the big garden that back onto the graveyard it was the one with the big greenhouse don't know if you remember it as I don't know your age

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 17:46

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes jouell thats Margaret.i will certainly tell her.

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 18:11
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Posted by: bert (685)

david hayworth was still collecting glasses in the village club last time i was in there see him walking in the street often.jouell the lady thelma was it middlehurst she was a very pretty lady and now still looks marvellous for her age.

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 18:30

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I was all mixed up this morning, I said Doreen when I meant Dorothy, I remembered Middlehurst whilst I was having my dinner,and a load of other stuff that happened...what a morning.....

Dougie I used to love going in those greenhouses, I remember, I guess it must have been old Mr Winstanley, he used to grow the most beautiful Chrysanthemums..As for my age, I'm older than I want to be and got here a heck of a lot faster then I ever dreamt I would.

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 18:51

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

I was talking to Thelma Middlehurst last year in Ashton & she was telling me that she had bought a computer, she had just been to the libary for a lesson, i am sure she said she was close on 90. Both her & BIll her husband were smashing people,

Replied: 17th Aug 2010 at 19:11

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

david hayworth lives in old road with his sister margaret she is my god mother he moved in with her when his mum died lovely lady

Replied: 20th Aug 2010 at 00:03

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Thanks rbilly.

Replied: 20th Aug 2010 at 09:23

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

trixi i have just noticed that dougi says david was in a home he may well be as i have not seen margaret for a while and i do no her hubby was not of good health when i last spoke to her . but she has looked after david for a long time she has been a good sister to him . i worked in the nursing home that mrs heyworth was in untill she died that would be about 19 years ago ..

Replied: 20th Aug 2010 at 10:01

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Rbilly, do you know if his other brothers and sisters are still alive? Though I may be wrong, I seem to remember that there were four or five kids in total in his family.

Replied: 20th Aug 2010 at 11:05

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Fred , Jack, Magaret & David, i think thats the whole family uncle Joe, as far as i know the are still with us,

Replied: 20th Aug 2010 at 18:38

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, where are tha hiding, was in bryn labour club sunday afternoon could not believe how many old greeners was in, had a belting time only got out at 8.30? a bit wobbly.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 08:38

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bambam dont drink in afternoons. dont go in bryn club much i go to bowling club most of the time .have grandkids in afternoons.greeners go in bryn for cheap ale theres not a lot of choice at downall green.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 12:14

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Do they use their bus pass.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 12:32

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie i use mine every week coming from bowling club straight to front door. usually full of greeners going home from ashton.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 12:36

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Ha ha.i used mine last week to come from Aberystwyth to Wrexham.
It comes in handy at times.

Ps i'm savin up for me hols.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 12:44
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Posted by: bert (685)

just come back of the royal carrabean international .two weeks on the med fantastic.beer a bit dear but dont drink much.everything else was great.saving for next one.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 12:56

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Keep using the bus pass.

Pennies make pounds.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 16:32

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

What with Bert saving up for a cruise, Trixie saving up for the same, as well as me, there'll be a DG Navy soon...

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 17:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

We'd better start our own thread eh.

Owd cruisers.com.

Now then do they take buzz passes on them cruises?

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 18:17
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

No but they do when you get to Gibraltar

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 19:03

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Do they take Welsh ones Dougie?

You learn somethin every day on here.

Replied: 25th Aug 2010 at 19:47

Posted by: bert (685)

Can anyone help. I was told,on Tues, that an old friend of mine and ex Downall Greener, Howard Brooks had sadly passed away. I have been unable to find out anything regarding the funeral, as I don't know his address. Does anyone have any info? Thanks.

Replied: 27th Aug 2010 at 11:10

Posted by: whups (4823) 

no - ones said anything bert . i was with his ex brother-in-law & he never mentioned anything about it . i,d tread quietly on this 1 .

Replied: 29th Aug 2010 at 12:10

Posted by: peemac (28)

bert, i dropped on barry in aldi this morning.it is right about howard. apparently he passed away either tuesday or wednesday of last week. have not seen anything in the paper about any arrangements

Replied: 29th Aug 2010 at 13:25

Posted by: bert (685)

hi peemac i couldnt find out .so i phoned alan jones the undertakers today he said they were doing the funeral but it had not been sortd yet.let you know if i find out.been away for the weekend .so not seen chissy.

Replied: 1st Sep 2010 at 17:01

Posted by: bert (685)

hi peemac been your house but nobody in .funeral at crematorium on tuesday at 2.30.seen some of old mates .

Replied: 5th Sep 2010 at 10:26

Posted by: aspey (168)

Does any one remember Ernie Heaton used to work for royal london and lived on Downall Green Rd his wife was Gladys she worked in the fish shop in Ashton .

Replied: 5th Sep 2010 at 19:35

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Yes his dad too Ernie was a Japanese prisoner of war before he joined his dad with the Royal London after the war, but he would never talk about his time as a prisoner he was a very nice man Ernie

Replied: 6th Sep 2010 at 19:06

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Re-David Hayworth my wife was talking to his sister to-day he his still living with her my mistake, she's been a good loving sister for along time as Margaret

Replied: 7th Sep 2010 at 23:46

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Yes she has..it can't have been easy for her, she isn't getting any younger..God Bless them..

Replied: 8th Sep 2010 at 01:34

Posted by: nutty tart (477) 

Ernie Heaton came to my mums house for the insurance money for donkeys years. He was a lovely, lovely man but i never knew he had been a Japanese prisoner of war
Such a gentleman.

Replied: 9th Sep 2010 at 20:13

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Bump Bump.


Replied: 18th Sep 2010 at 21:29

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi trixie, you ok love, sorry iv'e not been active been busy with work.

Replied: 18th Sep 2010 at 22:24
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Trixie-- don't just bump the thread to the top get talking about something that people can join in with,same with you Bambam or just let it slip off the page to be lost for ever,

Ask a question like do any of you remember the blue tits nest in the dell,or the two fingered wrens nest in Downall Green wood,or the old fallen down tree that everyone climbed where was it, just see if anyone can answer any of them

Replied: 19th Sep 2010 at 11:08

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

No don't remember them Dougie.

Don't work tooo hard bambam.

I'm off for a month soon so i won't be on for a while.

Replied: 19th Sep 2010 at 11:30
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Wouldn't think you went nesting but even if you did don't think you would have got to them and the big tree may not have been there for you to see this was only an example so you'll not be on your own

Replied: 19th Sep 2010 at 11:53

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Dougie, were you living in Poplar in 1953?

Replied: 19th Sep 2010 at 16:09

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Does anyone remember the siren at the top of Leyland Green Rd and Birch Grove? Was it left over from the war? I remember hearing it from time to time...

There also used to be a lovely big tree...well it seemed big as kids...at the top of L G Rd and B G...

Replied: 19th Sep 2010 at 17:04
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Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Yes uncle joe--across the road from you but you would have been a little lad then ,we moved on to the estate 1946 I lived there from 1946 to 1963 thats when I got married and moved to Rose Hill at Bryn

jouell--their would have been no need for a siren there as before the war it was all fields, it would have been the siren for the open cast mining across from the houses on Layland Green Road, as they sounded a siren every time they blasted so everone could take cover, yes it was a big tree they most have taken it doun to built the privet houses

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 09:09

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i remember the siren as a youngster, it was near garages on top of birch grove, also remember fishing at top of leyland green rd behind the house.

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 10:06

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Dougie: This is a long shot as you were young then, but do you remember any births in nearby houses in that year? One next door going down, one across the road?

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 10:09

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

sorry no idea of any ages of people in the street they was classed as younger,older,or same age as me in them days

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 10:50

Posted by: jondav (98) 

I remember the siren, but I never knew what it was for. It was on a tall wooden post which was attached to the garages. These were a big block of about five units. We used to climb on them all the time. There were also some individual garages at the side and Billy Collier fell through the roof of one, landed on a car which broke his fall.We all got into bother though.
Billy sadly died a long time ago, he lived in Poplar Ave.

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 17:52

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

If memory serves, he lived at number 10.

I remeber him as owning a Norton Jubilee when he was 15, and practising on it in their back garden until he was 16, and could ride it on the road legally. Oh, and being put flat on his back in the Village club after interfering with a snooker game...

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 18:06

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Billy lived next door to us at number 14 it was sad as we was close to the family for years before and after, his dad joined him a few years ago and his mam joined them in January this year so they rest in peace together

You've got me on that one uncle joe I know younger lads lived at number 10 and 8 but don't know about any bikes

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 18:52

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Billy Collier was a good friend of ours,it was very sad how that happened he only went for a medical to join the services and was diagnosed with a terminal illness.

His poor Dad lost all his hair and it took years to grow again then it was snow white.

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 19:05

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Billy worked with us at Millingford Engineering it must have been about 1969 when he died,nice lad,

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 19:55

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Colliers...did they live on the left side, going toward the bottom end of Poplar?

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 20:29

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

uncle joe--been thinking about number 10 and the motor bike I think his last name could have been Sherratt or sherrock but I was living in Bryn and only came up to see my mam

yes thats right jouell No 14, hope Tonker dosen't see this odd numbers on the left even, numbers on the right coming away from a town centre

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 22:17

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtingle-- do you think that the siren could have been from the open cast working across from your house, I know their was one across from the school during the war

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 22:24

Posted by: jouell (4705)

dougie, I remember my Mam and Dad being friends with someone down there, I couldn't think of their names, but seeing Collier, I remembered it...
They were very nice people I remember that...

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 23:08

Posted by: suesa (596)

Hi Jouell, Billy's Dad was also Bill, his Mum's name escapes me now. He had 2 sisters, Joyce and Joan.
Hope you are well

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 23:18

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Hi Suesa, I'm doing fine thanks, you?

Yea, it's the same family..as soon as I saw Collier, it came to me....I'm bad with names, faces I remember, but not names....

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 23:25

Posted by: suesa (596)

Yes fine thanks.Plodding on wit' yed down - as they say

Replied: 20th Sep 2010 at 23:31

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Dougie, its me that got the house numbers wrong. I was basing that side of the road from Wildings living at 14, when it should have been 18.

Does anyone know if any of the current residents of "our houses" are on here? I'm assuming that all of the old 'uns have moved by now.

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 07:34

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Uncle Joe .We had a great time at "Ellesemere".

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 09:16

Posted by: bert (685)

hi everyone billy collier went to school with me through rectory and centralschool i thought it was 1967or 1068 when he died. he was a good at sport a very good friend sadly missed.

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 17:53

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie i remember a two fingered wren nest in dell were the brook turned you got under the roots of the tree.and the owls nest as you went of the school field through the square into the dell and the hut under the roots of the big tree at the bottom of the grave yard.i think it fell over and gone now.good memories.

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:01

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

did you know that mrs collier died a few months ago ..

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:01
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Posted by: jouell (4705)

Are you not able to walk through the Dell anymore? Last time I was in DG, the cottages at the bottom end of the Dell had gated off the pathway...I used to love walking through the Dell...

Does anyone remember the cow falling into the brook in the Dell?

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:13

Posted by: bert (685)

hi rbilly i didnt know tony her son in law neever said when i saw him at howards funeral.she was a lovely woman as was bll her husband a lovely man.

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:14

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Dougie mentioned it a few posts back...I don't remember too much, it was a long time ago, but I do remember them being a lovely family....

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:21

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Bert: what was the reason Billy died? Do you know? And can you shed any light on the "snooker incident" I mentioned a few posts ago?

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 18:25

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

He was as fit as a fiddle but when he went for a medical for the army they found their was somethong wrong with his heart, it all stemmed from that

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 20:05

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, If you remember the field on the right of the Fifty was outcroped & that was where Ken Fairhurst sister was drowned, & i think the siren was for that outcrop. I think it ran from 1947 to 50.

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 22:10

Posted by: jouell (4705)

bentlegs, can you answer my question 6 posts back, about the Dell....

Replied: 21st Sep 2010 at 22:18

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

I lived on leyland green rd and remember getting into the dell from booths brow road then walking the full length of the woods,go under the bridge at the dam.then walk throu bluebell wood,under or over the railway line(naughty)follow the brook to skitters wood then play all day,Bet you cannot do this now?

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 08:46

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

jouell.i think that gate has been on for at least 25 years .I think?


Iv'e done the same too ppnw38817.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 09:04

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

It wouldn't surprise me if every child in DG had done the same!

Trixie, glad you enjoyed "Ellesmere."

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 10:27

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Has it been that long trixie...It hasn't been that long since I was last in DG, but it has been a long time since I last walked by that way... How was it that they were allowed to block off the walkway?

Does anyone remember the cow that fell into the brook in the Dell?

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 12:45

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I don't remember the cow.
The gate was on so long ago but i'm not sure if it has been permanent all this time,could have been on +off, i think they had problems with vandals etc going up that way.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 17:09

Posted by: bert (685)

hijouelle the gate was put there and there is a fence all along the field from the cottages because the school took over the field and the path is not public anymore.the fence at booths brow road was spiked when i was a kid because my brother gordon slipped getting oyer and cut his head open. and still as the scar all these years later.i dont remember the cow.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 17:55

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Shame about the Dell, I used to love walking through there...Somebody has to remember the cow..I'll be thinking I'm losing my mind next..

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 18:03

Posted by: bert (685)

hi uncle joe i think billy went for trials at wigan rugby when they found a problem with his heart.he went for a operation and was due to go for convalecence when he died.dont rememberthe snooker incident though but if it was in village club we didntgo in so often we went in legion.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 18:04

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Billy played the drums.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 18:07

Posted by: bert (685)

if they carry on expanding the grave yard there will be no dell its up to the footpath were you used to walk passed the rectors house.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 18:12

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Bert how old were you when you had the accident with your eye?

I remember it but just curious,

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:05
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Posted by: jouell (4705)

What a shame,no more Dell... makes us realize even more how lucky we were to be living at DG as children..there were so many lovely place for us to go and play..Todays children in spite of wealth of toys and such, don't have the freedom and fun that we all had...

Thanks bert and trixie..

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:11

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Jouell , If ican remember old Maud that lived in the next cottage to Geof Aspinall had it blocked of, i know we always got a mouthful off her when we went through. As regards the cow, no i dont recall it,

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:11

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Hi bentlegs....Wasn't it a public right of way though? Please somebody remember the cow, I'm beginning to question my sanity here....

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:16

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

We could all tell a porkie and agree with you.

Would you feel better?

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:21

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie i was 10 years old when it happened.and i dont remember the cow. knew one or two at d green but never stuck in a brook .ha ha/.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:33

Posted by: jouell (4705)

No..it's so frustrating though..I can see it as clear as anything in my head..

As you walked into the Dell from the D G rd end, the brook was on your right hand side and on the other side of the brook were fields, but the fields were higher up than the brook.and the cow fell down into the brook...The farmer came with a tractor, to try and pull it out, (not sure in the firemen were there or not ), there were a lot of people though, all trying to get the cow on it's feet...

I think I left then, as I don't know any more than that...



Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:36

Posted by: bert (685)

jimmy ormshaw lived next to maud before aspinalls got the cottage .maud used to torment us in the clubs when we grew up about calling her maud the very big fraud.oh happy days.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:39

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Where did the cow come from juell as i don't ever remember any cows in there.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 19:45

Posted by: jouell (4705)

All I can think of is the field that was across the brow from Cunliffes farm..that field stretched from booths brow rd to the backs of the houses on Downall Green rd...Dellside close or whatever it's called wasn't there then... I'm going back 50-55 yrs...

If nothing else, it's kept the thread going a bit...

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 20:05
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Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Now you are gettin better,we lived backed on to Cunliffes field,it must have got across the water,
i must be goin doo lally now.i forgot !!!!

You are on the road to recovery,just got to sort the Owls out now.

Replied: 22nd Sep 2010 at 20:12

Posted by: woodie (43)

Jouell, were Geoff Aspinall lives in the barn there were two cottages at the side one was demolished many years ago and it is the occupants of the cottage now who built the brick wall which blocks the pathway. But they retain access for themselves with a locked gate hidden around the side. The bridge accross the brook has also been demolished preventing access. The red shale track was laid around the war years and was used by Cromptons the hingemakers from Highfield House to get to church with their pony and trap.

Replied: 23rd Sep 2010 at 12:40

Posted by: bert (685)

i remember the cows being in the field now before delside close was built.at one point of the brook it was high on each side we used to dam it and swim in it.and at the back of my mind i remembera cow getting loose.

Replied: 23rd Sep 2010 at 14:31

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Thank god for that.well done bert.

juell can rest easy now.

Replied: 23rd Sep 2010 at 16:28

Posted by: jouell (4705)

See what happens when I miss a day...both bert and trixie are remembering fields and cows..

Thanks for that info woodie, I never knew of Cromptons having the Dell as their 'Private' pony track to Church...So who actually owns the Dell ?.all land is owned by someone...if it's not owned by the people in the cottage, they wouldn't have the right to stop anyone going in, would they? Just curious...

Replied: 24th Sep 2010 at 14:41

Posted by: jondav (98) 

I have just been informed that Ronnie Lawton has passed away at the age of 62. He used to live in Hawthorn with his brother John and his dad Alf. I believe he lived in Aspull. Ronnie was a good mate of mine when we were teenagers. RIP.

Replied: 24th Sep 2010 at 18:33

Posted by: bert (685)

hi jonday im sorry to hear this about ronnie he was in the same class as me and your george at school.not another one.i banged in george and he said he was going to visit you when it was howards funeral.

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 11:34

Posted by: bert (685)

hi jouelle i think the owners must be the church for when we were young mister hope who worked for the rector used to chase uus off.

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 11:37

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Thanks bert..

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 14:37

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Does all you owd greeners remember jack slater's bus coming round estate, he must have had that going for years, with fruit and veg also tobacco.

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 21:19

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

When i was Pregnant with my first child i used to have a craving for his sausages,I could'nt survive a day without them,i followed him round the estate to buy them.after having the baby i never touched another one of them.



It seems so daft now.

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 21:29
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Posted by: bambam (2120)

That's not a bad craving trixie, i have heard worse hope you enjoyed them,

Replied: 25th Sep 2010 at 23:17

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bambam i worked for jack slater for a while whhen i left school. i rememberhe had a car and trailer when we were kids we used to ride on the spuds on the back of trailer.alan lives near me at bryn now.

Replied: 26th Sep 2010 at 12:21

Posted by: ashpad (89)

Bert
I remember either a cow or a horse falling in the brook where the bank was a bit steep and they had to get it out.
Ashpad

Replied: 26th Sep 2010 at 13:41

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Ashpad has juell paid you to say that?

they are coming out of the woodwork now juell.

Replied: 26th Sep 2010 at 15:20

Posted by: jouell (4705)

trixie, no I did not .....but Thanks for that Ashpad There were a lot of people there, I'm surprised no one else can remember it..but then they would have to be members on here and see this..so...

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 14:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I hope you are feeling better this week,now you jogged their memories.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 14:59

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I was fine last week, but as no one was remembering anything, I was beginning to get frustrated and thinking maybe it was me.. Now I know I am fine.. plus the little wavies..

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 15:10

Posted by: ashpad (89)

Trixie
No I remember it happening probably happened before as well,played round there enough times
Ashpad

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 16:15

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

So have i and i lived backed on to the field for nearly 25 years!!but most of that time the Cunliffe ladies had moved out of the farm into the Bungalow at the end.
There's a thought does anybody know who lives in that Bungalow now.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 17:05

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie the lady who lives in the farm was working in the school across from me. she was telling me she inherrited a donkey and other animals .i think she bought it of trvor ratcliffe whos father had the garage down low bank rd .

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 19:17

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

So Trevor has moved from the farm.i worked for him for a while.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 19:52

Posted by: spectre (620)

The people who live in the farm are Mary and Roger.Mary smetimes works in the creche at St.Peters Bryn in the office.She's a very nice lady.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:04

Posted by: bert (685)

hi spectre yes she is a lovely woman we had a good talk about the farm she used to go to school with trevor.i was picking my grandson up at the school.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:11

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Do you know her last name?

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:19

Posted by: spectre (620)

Dyson

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:35

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

it doesn't ring any bells .never heard that name from round there.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:42

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Was that her maiden name bert?

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:45
Last edited by jouell: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:52:55

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hi juell.i've rang our friend Margaret a couple of times this week and got no answer and her mailbox is full, i'm gettin a bit worried as she doesn't go away.i must contact somebody to find out.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:51

Posted by: jouell (4705)

trixie, I heard she was in the hospital last weekend, don't know why, or where she is now....

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:54

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Do you know what with?legs or other trouble?

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 20:57

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I think it was pains in her stomach..don't know anything other than that...

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:01

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Iv'e sent an e mail to a friend that lives near her to see if she knows anything.
Amazing in it how you tell me all the way from the USA.....

Thanks.i'm glad i mentioned it.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:07

Posted by: spectre (620)

Don't know Marys maiden name.She used to be a school teacher.They lived in the bungalow next to Winstanley College,before that they lived in Old road near the police station.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:11

Posted by: jouell (4705)

yea well, I only know because a friend was visiting someone that night and happened to see Margaret or she saw him...as I said I don't know anything other than that...Worrying though that she isn't answering her phone, makes you wonder if she is still in..if she is, she'll have been in over a week.. I'd appreciate it if you would let me know what you find out...

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:17

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes i will definately let you know anything i hear.
David is in London and Steven lives in Wigan so nobody there to find out from.I must get Stevens number for future referance.

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:24

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Thanks...hope it's good news..

Replied: 27th Sep 2010 at 21:27

Posted by: erwick (135)

Hi Trixie and Jouell,
I've just asked my mum, who goes to Sandra Dowd's hairdressers, to see if she had seen Margaret recently.
She hasn't, but was told last week that she hadn't been well.
I phoned the shop but there was no answer.
I'll continue to try and get an answer. Also phoned Margaret's, but like you there was no answer.

I'll keep you informed.

Regards,
Erwick

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 11:58

Posted by: woodie (43)

Miss Cunliffe still lives at the bungelow she will be 94 years young now.

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 14:04

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Oh my gosh! God Bless her!! Thanks woodie.....

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 14:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hi erwick i've got a friend asking around.
Her friend Sandra.i'm not sure if she is in the shop much these days but she would know.but be careful what you write on here.

So Miss Cunliffes still there,i thought i'd never heard the bungalow changing hands or up for sale.
thanks woodie.

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 15:18

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Margaret was on the same ward as my daughter a couple of weeks ago,She had the same problem, Griping pains,May be home now,

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 19:05

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Thanks bentlegs.

Replied: 28th Sep 2010 at 19:20

Posted by: woodie (43)

Hi BamBam Jack slater at one time had a horse and cart around the 1950's selling his fruit and veg etc. He kept his horse in a stable on his pen. When his dad started the buisness he would take his goods round on a hand cart.

Replied: 29th Sep 2010 at 12:04

Posted by: greener (36)

jondav the garages at the top of Leyland Green rd is were whups fell off retrieving his ball. damaged his hip was in hospital a long time still limps to this day.

Replied: 29th Sep 2010 at 18:59

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks for that woodie, i don't remember that, only remember the old ob coach he converted to fruit and veg van. i wonder if anyone has any photos of slater's pen in 50s or 60s.

Replied: 29th Sep 2010 at 22:33
Last edited by bambam: 29th Sep 2010 at 22:36:37

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Well been away for a week and would just like to say its been nice catching up
Woodie-- your right about the red shale path as Dot Crompton played the organ in the church before Harry Lowe took over and it was her way of getting to church,you could see her walking that path every Sunday in the 40/50s, their was also another Fruit & Veg man Jack Shaw that was going in Downall Green long before Jack Slater anyone remember him

Keep talking

Replied: 30th Sep 2010 at 21:03

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Do you mean on Leyland Green Rd dougie?

I lived directely across the rd from Shaw's pen..I don't remember his first name..I used to love going in the shed and smell all the fresh fruit and veg..I also used to play in the bottom part of the pen, nr the brook, with his niece Margaret.. There used to be sheds and stuff down there and in the winter one of the sheds/ hut, had a coke stove going and it was always toasty warm...

Dougie do you remember the car he had? I don't ever remember him going out in it..I've no idea what make it was, I do remember some blue on it, and it was always washed and polished....

Replied: 30th Sep 2010 at 21:26
Last edited by jouell: 30th Sep 2010 at 23:59:49

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Your right it was just across from you, at that time I think their was only one bungalow on that side of the road that old man Tumtell will up us right yes we could play all along the brook lovely fresh clean water straight from the razza,don't remember the car as we lived on the other side of the estate another for the --- ---

Everyone don't forget to press the END KEY for last posting as this thread is O.K. yet

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 09:20
Last edited by dougie: 1st Oct 2010 at 09:25:56

Posted by: bert (685)

was it not jimmy shaw who had the pen they used to go round selling fruit and veg in fifties as well as slaters.albert rimmer had a bungalow up the road i think that was before bill slater had hes bungalow .built

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 12:27

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Back in the early 50s there was only one other building on the same side as the pen and small row of terraced house... Bert, Rimmers did live in that bungalow, but they weren't the first. I can't remember the name of the first family. bentlegs will remember,they had a daughter that I played with a lot and the mother did beautiful smocking , I remember that and I think she and my Mam were friends..

bentlegs or any of the older D Greeners, do any of you remember a pig pen on the land between the bungalow and Shaws pen?





Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 12:44

Posted by: bert (685)

hi jouelle i know they werent the first family to live there.but i remember uncle albert being there.i remember a piggery being at th back of the terraced houses slater took them over he used to keep pigs for a short time then he kept geese in them when i worked there as a kid with my brother.

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 12:58

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Owd on a bit, The fruit & veg man on Leylandgreen rd was Harry Shaw, Jack Shaw was his brother who lived at the begining of Booths Brow rd,(near Tommy Gum) remember him? Jack also had a fruit & veg round,
The first Bunalow was built accross the road from us & Alf Smith had it built in 1949,I looked after his pigs & chickens when i came home from school,
Bill Slater built a bunalow about 5 years later,
Anyone know where Top ut Knob was? Tumtell should know,Rimmers bought Alf bunalow about 59-60,

Here the lesson endeth, Longfellow,

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 12:58

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Thanks bentlegs, Smith was the name.. Did they move Lowton way, somewhere like that and I think the daughter whose name I forget was big into horse jumping competitions..

I didn't realize the pig pen was their's, that would explain my Dad being in there and being tossed by one of the pigs..

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 13:07

Posted by: bert (685)

jouell you dad was friends with jack slater because they used to go to the institute in wtgan rd and i hadto go and tell you mum and mrs slater wh3ere they had gone i think they used ask me because i had trouble pronouncing it .knowing your dad better later in life i think they did it for a laugh.

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 15:16

Posted by: jouell (4705)

That's funny bert,,yea, my Dad didn't have a twinkle in his eye for nothing..
I know Dad and Jack Slater were good friends, I remember one Christmas eve, someone knocked on the front door, when we opened it we couldn't see anyone.. Later we heard a bump and a bang, again went to the front door and found my Dad... Jack Slater and Dad had been out for a drink..as they did..my Dad was the worse for wear, so Jack Slater brought him home and propped Dad up in the corner of the front Porch, then he took off, as he knew he'd get it from my Mam..
But I 'm talking about the pig pen right on Leyland Green rd, on the land between Smiths then Rimmers bungalow and Shaws pen across from my house That's where Mr Smith had pigs and he and my Dad were friends too..

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 15:26

Posted by: whups (4823) 

i remember harry shaws building on l-g-rd . i used to go in it from time to time . i think he lived in the terraced houses at the bottom of l-g-rd . at 1 time i think it was the house that jack sudworth lived in .

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 17:48

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Harry Shaw lived in the end terrace house next to the pen he had... My family moved to L G R in 48, when I was 4.. As far as I remember, Shaws were living there then and throughout my childhood.. Maybe some older D Greeners will remember more than I do...

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 18:20

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Yes Janet you are right, iremember Harry Shaws father when he was a very old man & harry lived with him in the terracsd house, The pig pen was where Bill Slater built his bungalow, Alf Smith sold him the land & alf promised not to keep pigs as a conditionof the sale of land,
Alf Smith owes me about £5 in wages, it was murder getting my ten bob a week off him,
Alf went to live in Glasbury Nr Warrington, he bought a small holding & him & his brother Stan built a house on the land & sold it , they bought some more land near by & built gsome more houses & that is how Alf Smiths Building firm got off the ground, He built houses in Golbourne & made quite a few bob & then sold out, He still owes me £5 but i dont think i will get it now unless i can find his daughter Lynn, The little mare as i called her, She turned out to be very pretty,

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 19:03

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Harry Shaw built a garage for his fruit cart at the top of Leylandgreen road & Birch Grove, It was later knocked down to build the houses that are there now,

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 19:08

Posted by: jouell (4705)

So I wasn't too far off when I said Lowton.. Did Lynn have dark curly hair? I played with her, but I don't remember what she looked like, although I remember her Mother doing loveley smocking..crazy!

I used to love going playing at their house, it was like a Palace to me back then..Did he build that bungalow bentlegs?

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 19:23

Posted by: greener (36)

Yeah i remember Tommy Gumm he had a barbers shop on Boothsbrow Rd i had my hair cut their. Seems like selling fruit and veg in Downall Green was a roaring trade.

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 20:36

Posted by: greener (36)

Do you remember the under ground den's we use to play in crawling along on hands and knees to get in. This was at the top end off Leyland green Rd were the big tree was.

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 20:56

Posted by: dougie (4424) 


Greener join the club ask a question and someone will reply
their a good lot on here,
Tumtingle it was Harry, Jack lived in the end house in Tommy Gumm's row he had two sons Barry and ------ a knew thad purus rett nout rung wit yed yet

Replied: 1st Oct 2010 at 22:42

Posted by: greener (36)

Thanks dougie Can any one remember the old pop house on leyland green road in operation, When did it close and who ran the buisness.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2010 at 16:03

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Bradburns ran it but it closed before 1936, Half still standing,

Replied: 3rd Oct 2010 at 17:02

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

wellcome greener happy postings . enjoy thee sen

Replied: 3rd Oct 2010 at 18:44

Posted by: greener (36)

Thanks for the info bentlegs they must have been the farmers across the road, i remember cattle being in there.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2010 at 19:03

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Can anyone remember any of the characters of Downall Green from the 40s 50s 60s,? Tommy Gum the barber, owd tommy Gregg Pellet nose & Plummy , Any more Tumtingle?

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 11:13

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtell-their was lots of charicters in them days and for different of reasons, when in the club on a sunday night and we get talking about some of them from Garswood, simm's road,and downall green,they all keep coming up time and time again and you would know them

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 12:33

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, get some on here,

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 14:24

Posted by: jondav (98) 

I remember mi dad teking me and mi brother George for short back and sides to Tommy Gumm. He was a funny little man with a hump back and frightened us to death. I suppose he was harmless really.

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 17:05

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Who was the man who wore a patch over where his nose should have been...I think he lived top of Elm/Birch grove?

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 17:18

Posted by: whups (4823) 

his name was len callow.

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 17:21

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Does anyone know what the problem was with him? Did he not any nose at all, I'm just curious..Being little back then I was always scared of him...fear of the unknown..

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 17:30

Posted by: greener (36)

Don,t think downhall green is the same anymore glad i lived there back then, it was diffrent them days but i suppose nothing stops the same.


Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 17:59

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I moved there in 1948 when I was 4, it was a great place to grow up...

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 18:22

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Here's your Downall Green Coat of Arms for you to savour!

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 20:01

Posted by: erwick (135)

Hi Greener and Janet,
As you know Janet I've lived in Downall Green for 50 out of my 60 years and there are big changes.
Just to name a few of the changes, the Church, I think plays a big part. No Walking Days, no choir to speak of and I'm not being disrespectful to the people who are in the choir at the moment, if there still is a choir. No Church hall, has been sold off, therefore no womens classes and no concerts.
There are no small industries anymore.The likes of Millingford Engineering, Cromptons and the works that followed Cromptons on the old site, such as Pilkington's garage.
The S & S club has long since disappeared and the Legion grounds.
I think what I am coming around to say is that, the places where people used to meet up, whether at work, play or socially, have gone, replaced by housing developments.

Just an observation.

Erwick

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 20:50

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Well i think it is so sad,I never knew that there was no Jelly Sundays anymore and that the Hall had been sold off.

I think it started to go down hill years ago when the Vicar David Abbott arrived.Any body agree with me.

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 21:00

Posted by: erwick (135)

You're not wrong, Trixie.

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 21:02

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I remember when he came,the Rectory was to cold for him and they built him a new house but it was to close to the school yard.!!!!

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 21:09

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Downall Green isn't a patch on what it used to be...I didn't know about the Hall being sold and no Jelly Sunday.
All the money it cost to build him that new Rectory when there was a beautiful Rectory already there..

There is nothing left of the Downall Green I grew up in....Very sad..

Replied: 4th Oct 2010 at 23:14

Posted by: bert (685)

hi everybody i remember len callow he lived with the rigbys on birch grove he was a charachter. when were kids we used to ask himm why he had no nose.he told us he was fighting natives in jungle and one through a spear and took it straight of .and then he said a bee got up and eatenhis nose.and we believed himbeing kids .later he went in a homeand had a false nose put on and i did not recognise him .but all this about downall green not being the same its not but they cant take away our memmories i will always call my slf a greener.

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 11:35

Posted by: greener (36)

The vicar David Abbott also want,s the grave yard closed,and wanted the church demolished.he decided there would be no more walking days and when someone on the commitee asked to use a banner and walk with the children from rectory school they were told NO.

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 12:22

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Hi bert, the Rigby's, couldn't remember their name, he did live with them..they were quite a big family weren't they?

One story I remember hearing about the Rigby's was when Mrs Rigby was having one of her children, and babies were born at home then, it seems the other children were let go in the room and watch the birth. In those days, child birth, like sex and the 'big C' were things no one talked about.. so it caused quite a stir to have the children in the room to watch....True story, I don't know, but one that went around...

Re: the vicar David Abbott.. he should have been sent packing quick style..he was no man of God, he sounds like a dictator..

Like you bert, I'll always be a D Greener, even though I live so far away..but I do have the most wonderful memories of growing up there..

Sorry greener, forgot to say Hi and thanks for your input...

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 13:45
Last edited by jouell: 5th Oct 2010 at 13:48:26

Posted by: greener (36)

Hi jouell remember going in Rigby's house once they were all sat on orange boxes with a big roaring fire,must have burned all the furniture to keep warm.


Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 14:22

Posted by: jouell (4705)

greener, they would have been better off burning the orange boxes, but..... There were a lot of poor people in DG then, most families were poor, some just poorer than others..But seeing as none of us had cars, telephones or Tvs, us children didn't know how poor we were, as we didn't know much of what was what outside DG..

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 14:48

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I remember when my daughter went to get married she went to Rectory School and was confirmed there and attended Sunday School but he was new then but he upset her so much she ended going to St Peters.
They thought he would only last 12 months,but his skin must be very thick,i think he got a few followers ,inviting him for tea etc.
My neighbour Mrs Green as most of you will have known, went there for years but stopped going through him.
As far as i can remember about the Hall,it was payed for by parisioners ,so who sold it And who does the money go to?
Anybody know?

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 15:15
Last edited by trixie: 5th Oct 2010 at 15:19:45

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Not a man of God.. Mrs Green was a lovely lady, and pictures of her can be seen on many yrs worth of walking day pictures..So for her to stop going, he must have been something else....

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 15:24

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes and her funeral service was held at St Peters.and a lovely service it was too there was a tea +cakes afterwards in the vestry.as she requested.

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 15:29

Posted by: greener (36)

The money from the sale of the hall aprox £90,000 was used for the alterations, and provide toilet facility.

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 17:46

Posted by: greener (36)

In the church i should have said

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 17:51

Posted by: jouell (4705)

greener, do you still live in Downall Green?

Replied: 5th Oct 2010 at 18:45

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Who is Greener Janet? do you know?

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 18:42

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

My wifes grandad was choir master at rectory church many years ago(albert Sharples).We where married in 1975 at the rectory also our eldest boy was christened there in 1978 even thou we lived in the parish of st peters bryn.when we came to have our youngest christened at the rectory we where told no chance go to your own parish church st peters which we did .George Rigby was my uncle on my mothers side could not tell you how many of the kids are still alive

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 19:58

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Anyone remember George having a push bike with a motor fasted at the back of his seat about 1952/3 if I remember right George lived in Elm Ave in the 40/50s before moving to Birch Grove

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 20:16
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Posted by: bert (685)

the only ones of the rigbys who are left are richard and kevin i met the at a party we was invited to i am not sure about how they died but they live at earlstown and have been for a long time.kevin had been very ill when i spoke to them

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 20:36

Posted by: bert (685)

i remember george driving the three wheeled wagon delivering parcels for the railway.had some good times at thier house when we were young could write a book about them.

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 20:40

Posted by: jouell (4705)

No bentlegs I don't know who greener is..I figure if he remembers Rigby's, he's probably my age, roughly.. Maybe bert knows, he seems to know everybody, eh bert......

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 20:51

Posted by: bert (685)

no sorry cant think who he is .perhapshe will give us a clue.

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 20:55

Posted by: jouell (4705)

geez bert, that was quick....I haven't a clue and as I've said before, I'm bad with names, it's faces I remember....

How're you doing bert? hope you are well..

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 21:00

Posted by: bert (685)

hi jouell im fine keep plodding on go for a spine op next month but not worried just a simple op .not seen your roy for awhile since he moved used to live near me .

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 21:37

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Good luck next month bert..

Roy moved away , don't remember now, 5-6 years ago? first to Wales then across the Channel..

Replied: 6th Oct 2010 at 22:24

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i think one of rigbys became a police constable, not to sure on name maybe richard.

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 00:52

Posted by: bert (685)

i dont think it was richard it may have been bernard he was in the army for a long while.

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 11:48

Posted by: erwick (135)

Hi Bert,
Speaking of Rigby's, do you know what happened to Francis Rigby?
He was in the same class as me at Rectory, but I haven't seen nor heard from him in a long long time.

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 18:36

Posted by: greener (36)

Hi joull no i don't live on Downall green anymore moved in 1960's who am i you ask , let me just say i am one of you a Downall greener. It is intresting reading about the old village life and the stories of the people through the past generations.

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 20:53

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Hi greener, I only asked if you still lived in DG..I didn't ask who you are..someone asked me if I knew, I said 'no', but maybe bert knew..he said he didn't, so you're idenetity is safe...

I do agree reading about everyones memories and stories about DG is very interesting...

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 21:18

Posted by: greener (36)

Sorry Jouell wasnt having a go at you i wasnt affended at people asking who i am its quite funny trying to play the guessing game, i have the advantage of knowing all of you. I guess someone will sus me eventually. Lets get back to the topic of Downall Green, regarding shops in the village does anyone remember the toffee shop on Leyland Green Rd. this is the only one thats never been mentioned.

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 21:52

Posted by: jouell (4705)

greener, I don't remember names well at all, but if you told me who you were, would I know you?

As for the toffee shop, in my earlier yrs, the only places on L G rd, was the row of terraced houses on your right as you came up the brow, then the row of council houses on your left, the old pop place then the farm at the top..but I don't remember a toffee shop.. Nurse Nuttall used to sell cigs from her house..but not toffee..I'm stumped..

Replied: 7th Oct 2010 at 22:12

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

There was a toffee shop at the junction of Booths Brow road, Rectory road, and LG road. It was at the opposite end of the row of terraced houses to where the chippy once was. Is it that one that you are meaning?

Greener: You say that you have the advantage of knowing all of us. Somehow, I dont think that you know who I am...As far as I am aware, theres only Trixie, Dougie, and Bert on here that do...

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 07:25

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

your trying to throw us off sent I would say you can't remember the shop in the middle of the terace houses you would have to be in your very late 70s its interseting
thou, two sisters had the shop Bet & Dolly but I only remember the Shaws living in it as a house latter, tell the parson that give you the question they would know my family

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 09:28

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

When the Quaker pit was open in which direction did they mine coal?About 30yrs ago when pumping water out of the mine they exposed at least 2 mineshafts along Leyland Green Road and I also remember sink holes appearing in the field behind Birch Grove which at the time was put down to shifting sand.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 10:08

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

ppnw 38817, In the 50s there were two mine shafts on the left hand side going from D G to Winstaley rd, they were quite near to the house on the corner but that land was outcropped ,they didn't go as far as the shafts but what happened to the brick walls round the shafts , i don't know, maybe they have been filled, like i said the land running level with Birch Grove was outcropped,

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 10:36

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Now you've said that about the shop Dougie,I vaguely remember hearing something about it..it must have been my Dad..I know he was born and lived in Cox Lump and Doe Ridings until moving to D G..But he used to tell us stories of him coming to D G as a young boy to play and explore...

Since I was over in England last year, I have found out that my Great Great Grandmother was born in D G..Her name was Mary Barton, daughter of Thomas Barton and Mary Ashurst.
So maybe he went to D G to visit and see family too..


Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 13:12

Posted by: greener (36)

uncle joe i meant the people i had been speaking to recently, are the ones that are familiar, and yes thats the shop Dolly's.Yes jouell you do know me. You never know Dougie i may be in my late 70's.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 15:13

Posted by: bert (685)

hi greener can i ask if you have a neighbour called terry.i dont remember the shop on leyland green rd.was it were shaws had the pen.i remember the one what sudworths had but thats on rectory rd.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 15:23

Posted by: jouell (4705)

mmm! I guess I'll have to try figure out who you are greener..for now I haven't a clue...

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 15:47

Posted by: bert (685)

hi erwick francis and richard are the same person he had two names and he lives in earlstown.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 16:04

Posted by: suesa (596)

Ha-ha Uncle Joe. Don't forget that I know who you are too

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 16:28

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

OK greener your not in your late 70s I know that now, but in the 1960s did you leave downall green because you got married as I left in 1963 for that reason

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 17:11

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Do i know you greener?

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 17:31

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Suesa: sssh! its supposed to be secret!

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 17:45

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I thought you'd gone on another of your holls, trixie?

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 18:01

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Next Thursday.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 18:17

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Oh ok.. I guess we'll see you in here for a few more days then.. In the meantime, we'll all be trying to figure out who greener is...bet he's having a good laugh..

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 18:23

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

You can let me know if you find out.

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 19:02

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I don't have a clue trixie. maybe someone will figure it out before too long, we'll wait and see..

Replied: 8th Oct 2010 at 19:10

Posted by: greener (36)

Bert no i did'nt have a neighbour called terry. the shop was in the row were Cissie Deluse Hodsons and Naylors lived.

Replied: 9th Oct 2010 at 14:18

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Cissie was another DG character.. there was no harm in her,( although I do remember what people thought, true or not I don't know, she dressed very different than all the other women in DG, maybe some were just jealous.. Her son Ronnie was always a nice lad..

Replied: 9th Oct 2010 at 15:16

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Cissie was a great caracter.

Replied: 9th Oct 2010 at 16:20

Posted by: greener (36)

dougie no i did'nt leave for that reason, i remember two families being evicted around 1960's times were tough them days.

Replied: 9th Oct 2010 at 19:22

Posted by: bert (685)

hi greener i remember three being evicted .two in hawthorn ave or maybe threein hawthorn and one in birch grove.you werent one of them were you.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 09:29

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Quote-Her son Ronnie was always a nice lad..and still is Jouell, I do see him from time to time but he lives in Haydock now, anyone no anything about Tommy Armstrong these days lived in the house across from the terraced houses



Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 09:50

Posted by: jondav (98) 

One of the families that were evicted in Hawthorn were the Turners who lived next door to us at no.17 I remember their furniture piled up at the front. They had about 4 kids Keith,John,Janet and a baby. The dad Len had a bad temper and used to hit his wife Olive.I wonder what happened to them.
I think another family that were evicted were the Hobsons.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 11:37

Posted by: bert (685)

hi jonday yes they were two families the other family wre collingwoods wholived at the top next to curly shaw.i went to my brothers last week and asked him about ronnie lawton he lives near him he told me ronnie was in a wheel chair before he died i did not know.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 12:22

Posted by: bert (685)

dougie i see ronnie round bryn regular hardly changed after all these years.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 12:24

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

The Hobsons lived next door to us,my Mother had the kids in every jelly sunday for there tea.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 12:31

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I had heard not too long ago that Ronnie lived in Bryn..The last time I saw Ronnie was about 20 years ago, I was over in England, me, my husband, Mam and Dad had gone to the Stag in Garswood and saw Ronnie and his wife there and spent the evening with them..Lovely people...

Tommy Armstrong lives over here, I think Arizona, he used to be a commercial pilot, now I think he trains pilots..I spent the afternoon with his sister Irene when I was over last year..that's how I know..

Bert, next time you see Ronnie, will you please tell him hello from me...

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 13:28
Last edited by jouell: 10th Oct 2010 at 13:32:41

Posted by: jondav (98) 

Bert, I remember Dougie Collingwood but I didn't know they were evicted.
I believe Ronnie Lawton had some sort of spinal problem.

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 13:59

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Thanks Jouell--Tommy was a good friend at Downall Green school so was David Hobson and Berts sister so we would all be 70 now

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 14:11
Last edited by dougie: 10th Oct 2010 at 14:14:12

Posted by: jouell (4705)

You're welcome dougie.. I hadn't seen or heard of any of the Armstrongs in 50 yrs, until I saw Irene last year.. We had a lot of catching up to do..

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 15:01

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtingle, If its the ronnie i think it is he lives in Jannet Hey, not sure who you mean,
Another family who were thrown out were Bungy & his wife The Midnight Moggy From Popular Ave not far from you,

Replied: 10th Oct 2010 at 19:53

Posted by: jouell (4705)

bentlegs, it was Cissies Ronnie I was talking about and I assumed dougie was talking about the same...

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 00:26

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Right Janet, He does live in Jannet Hey, not Haydock as Douggie thought.

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 07:05

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I can still remember Bungy's kids playing..on the roof of their house! Does anyone remember the name of the family that used to live in there before them?

To ask a question that I did earlier that never got answered. Are any of the current residents of the houses that we lived in on here? Does anyone know? Oh, and how mwnay of us were actually born in the house we lived in, and not hospital?

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 07:41

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Yes Joe i was born 386 Bolton Road Stubshie.
Not Downall Green though.

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 09:46

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I wasn't, but my two youngest brothers were...

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 12:18

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Born in Garswood or Senley green as they like to call it now,

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 16:14

Posted by: suesa (596)

I was born at 90 Rectory Road.The row between the church and Booths Brow Road. Houses were demolished quite a while ago and a detached house built on the land.

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 17:28

Posted by: bert (685)

i was born in billinge probably because there was two of us i remember the youngs because tommy and kitty were characters sadly raymond commited suicide a few years ago..

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 19:01

Posted by: greener (36)

Bert no we didn't get evicted from Downall Green but always thought would end up going back their,but not any more would hardly know anyone. The youngs moved to bryn or should i have said bungy's.

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 19:57

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I bet Tonker knows who you are.

He knows everybody.

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 20:07

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Bungy was moved to Landgate to wreck another house or his kids did,

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 22:05

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

I know absolutely loads of people, from all over the place!

I knew Ray bungy too. And Colin.

It's funny how some people think they live in Downall Green, when they actually live in Bryn, in Downall Green Road!

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 22:19

Posted by: jouell (4705)

tonker you didn't say if you knew greener or not..do you?

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 22:40

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Greener? Naaaaah. Neeeeeeeeeeever heard of him!

Replied: 11th Oct 2010 at 22:50

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

You even know me, Tonker! (and I'm still waiting for that drink!)

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 07:23

Posted by: greener (36)

bentlegs bungy's moved to Bryn backs then on to Langate.jouell remember Tonker ran the little of licence at the bottom of soughers lane. Has anyone heard abought the pharmacy at Downall Green being haunted.

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 11:38

Posted by: jouell (4705)

greener,I remember an Off License at the bottom of Soughers Lane, but I never went in and I don't know tonker..Do you know tonker?

I know I've been gone a long time, but when did Chemist's start being called Pharmacy's ? and I don't remember one being in D G either..

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 13:04

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

It's a centre for St Helens, Doctors surgery & Chemist, did you notice a new large building at the bottom of Birtch Grove But on Billinge rd,

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 13:53

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I haven't been down that end for years..Last time I was that way, there was football field, I think a small playground and a club house for the football.. When did they start calling Chemist's, Pharmacy's ?

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 14:29

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I remember Jean+ her sister Mabel had a flower shop at bottom of soughers lane next to off licence.

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 17:16

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Trixie, Tonker had that Off Licence about 6 or 7 years ago, It was called the Bottle Stop.

Replied: 12th Oct 2010 at 23:49

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I was talkin about at least 20+ years ago.

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 09:22

Posted by: bert (685)

hi greener did you mate with my brother gordon when you were young.and i apologise if i was wrong about the eviction but thats what i was told.have i twigged who you are.

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 10:50

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

He could have been there 20 years Trixie.He finished work in 1986,

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 11:23

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

I bought that place before I left Parkside. Jean Evans had the flower shop there and finished in 1986.

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 11:30

Posted by: bert (685)

see jean evans regularly at sainsburys in a wheel chair with husband john. had trouble with her legs.mabel died a few years ago.good friends with my wife.

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 12:04

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I knew Jean +Mabel well they lived at the end near Levertons Mabel in the Bungalow Jean next door.
I used to go to the flower shop often.

That makes it 20+ years as i said.
Nowt wrong wi my memory.

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 12:08

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

I,ve seen you so your not the invisible man as coming off afternoon shift from Reeds I would sometimes call in for a couple of cans when I wasn't calling for a pint

Replied: 13th Oct 2010 at 12:17

Posted by: greener (36)

jouell suppose it does sound rather posh pharmacy coming from an owd greener, wid beter stick wi chemist. Bert no i didn't mate with your Gordon you've not got there yet.Also do you remember when the two family's were evicted it was on local T.V.?

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 13:17

Posted by: jouell (4705)

It's nothing to do with being posh, I've never heard a Chemist being called anything else other than Chemist..I thought I'd missed something with you calling it a Pharmacy.....

Do you still live in the Wigan area greener?

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 13:32

Posted by: greener (36)

jouell never mind lets get back to the origional question which was has anyone heard about the chemist!!! at Downall Green being haunted, all the staff were terrified and wanted something doing about it,items were being moved and thrown around. Things seemed to be worse when a young male member of staff was around.

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 14:12

Posted by: jondav (98) 

Does anybody remember when there were only gas lamps on the streets of the estate and not many of those. Very dark evenings during the winter months ,but we still felt safe walking the streets in those days. We weren't afraid of no ghost.

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 16:56
Last edited by jondav: 14th Oct 2010 at 17:13:53

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I remember the gas lamps and the gas lamp lighter coming round on his bike to light the lamps... There was one across from our house...
Does anyone remember when the bus stop used to be across from our house, when it used to go up Leyland Green Rd, not down Rectory rd? When it was raining, we used to very often find people in our front porch to keep dry whilst waiting for the bus...

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 17:38

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Jouell asked, "Do you still live in the Wigan area greener"?


Actually, Jouell, Downall Green has never been in the 'Wigan area'.
It's in the Ashton in Makerfield area, and is now part of St.Helens.

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 20:03

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi greener, where was this chemist it sounds interesting.

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 20:27

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Oh you are such a nit picker tonker.. Alright, I'll do it your way.... not that you'll answer it greener, but do you still live in the Ashton-in-Makerfield area, that is part of St Helens and if not there do you live within a 10 mile radius of DG?...

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 20:38

Posted by: rbilly (10582)

i know the turners very well ..they moved to blackburn mum and dad know have both died . but all the family are doing well there are 6 of them 3 girls and 3 boys

Replied: 14th Oct 2010 at 21:51

Posted by: greener (36)

Yeah Jouell i do still live in Ashton-in-Makerfield. By the way the word pharmacy is wrote in big bold letters above the door of the chemist at Downall Green, obviously youve been away to long. Bambam the chemist is the one built on the playing fields at the back of Birch Grove, not far from were you used to live, apparently they have had to have the rector go in there and do what ever they do.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 12:46

Posted by: jouell (4705)

greener,I posted on Oct 12th that I hadn't been down that way in years..Last time I was that way, there was a football field, playground and a small building I was told belonged to the football.. " Pharmacy " ..why can't England stay English and stop it with all the American words. so annoying..and I have been away for far too long

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 13:25

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Pharmacy is Latin, not American. Americans call it a 'Drug Store'!

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 13:28
Last edited by tonker: 15th Oct 2010 at 13:32:04

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I've lived here 35 years.. and all I've ever heard it called is pharmacy.. In the yellow pages they go under pharmacy.. in big stores like Wal Mart, Walgreens and such were they sell other stuff aside from medicines, the chemist part is called pharmacy... So the word pharmacy is Latin, but what England calls a Chemist, here is called pharmacy..sheesh!!!!! it's too blessed early in the morning to be dealing with you having a go at me....

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 13:47

Posted by: bert (685)

hi greener are you one of the collingwoods i dont remember them only dougie he was older than me.and the pharmicy is on billinge rd. i heard the other night that the bell is haunted and had a tunnel underneath to the church .is it true ive been told twice.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 15:33

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, i heard that bell was haunted some years ago the reason being the vault was a morgue in the olden days.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 17:40

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Bert--if their is Rector Hall made it as a short cut

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 17:42

Posted by: greener (36)

No bert not one of the collingwoods, your not even luke warm. As for being a mourge bambam its not much different now haha. Your right Duggie Rector Hall enjoyed a few jars at the back of the door.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 20:38

Posted by: greener (36)

When Rector Hall died his coffin was kept in the church overnight and a vigil was held by locals from the village these included Tommy Aspinall and Miles Frodsham.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 21:27

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

someone must have told you he liked a pint, did you know Miley or just as a person

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 22:04

Posted by: greener (36)

I think everyone knew Tommy and Miley.

Replied: 15th Oct 2010 at 22:22

Posted by: bert (685)

i remember miley very well he lived a couple of doors away from us. used to mate with his son robert who sadly was killed in a road accident.rector hall liked a little tot of whisky .he was the fastest man in downall green as the service ended in church he beat everybody to the bell.lovely man.

Replied: 16th Oct 2010 at 12:28

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Miley was a rum begger, had some laughs with him when he was the steward at the S&S club,

Replied: 16th Oct 2010 at 18:26

Posted by: bambam (2120)

miley was a gent as i remember, like you say bentlegs he was a rum lad.

Replied: 16th Oct 2010 at 21:33

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtingle-- I was meaning like you just said when I asked the question (did you know Miley or just as a person)as you know we knew Miley from his working days down pit and the way he was with his friends day after day,I did part of my face training with him in the 50s

Replied: 17th Oct 2010 at 08:36

Posted by: greener (36)

bert i remember the accident robert was driving the van it rolled over and went down a revine ending up on it's roof in the water. Sadly Robert was killed but his three work mates survived

Replied: 18th Oct 2010 at 20:45

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Tumtell.There are a few stories about Miley that he told us his self, He was a few bob short in his wages when he handed his paypacket over to his wife & she wanted to know why, He told her he had a bag of road nails & a landing stopped out of his wages, i think she believed him, you remember Andy Spratt the cutter man on regular nights? His wife had been asking him to paint the kitchen for weeks & he kept putting it off, One morning when he got home from work he sat down at the table waiting for his breakfast & Annie his wife put a plate in front of him with a tin of paint& a paint brush, people reading this may not understand the first part unless you worked down the pit, Duggie will explain if your curious,

Replied: 18th Oct 2010 at 22:20

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Tumtingle--remember Andy coming in the club one afternoon and saying he could stick a pint to the ceiling without holding it,anyway a bet was made so Andy got one of the round tables and a chair placing it in the middle of the room, got the pint off the bar walked to the chair and got on the table with the pint holding the pint to the ceiling and looking round Tommy Collier said what looking for Andy, sumut howd it up wi saying Tommy pass me that snooker queue Andy put the thick end under the glass and said to Tommy howd this till a get down he did so, Andy moved the table and chair and saying told you i could stick a pint to the ceiling without holding it theirs one born ever minute, Tommy tried to catch it as it fell and got pi---d wet throw

Replied: 18th Oct 2010 at 23:19
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Posted by: bert (685)

the best thing about miley i remember was he fell out with his wife. she said she was leaving and left him a note which she signed mrs bloody neverwheel chaufed deeuth frodsham.bob showed us it us all.

Replied: 19th Oct 2010 at 13:15

Posted by: greener (36)

bert do you remember the mad axe man from Downall Green ?

Replied: 20th Oct 2010 at 19:08

Posted by: bert (685)

do you mean him who held his wife and kids hostage..

Replied: 21st Oct 2010 at 11:44

Posted by: greener (36)

Yes that's the one also smashed a few police cars that night, barricaded the family in what used to be miley and olive's house.

Replied: 21st Oct 2010 at 13:55

Posted by: jouell (4705)

On the General thread..wiganyankeeron is asking for info on the Vicar at Trinity..I don't know anything, can any of you help?

Replied: 21st Oct 2010 at 15:20

Posted by: bert (685)

yes greener i knew him well and have done for a long time. he had a bad time with mental health problems but he is very well last time i spoke to him.

Replied: 21st Oct 2010 at 18:46

Posted by: ralfus (6)

Hi Bert do you think that you know me. I think that Tumtingle or Tumtell might know me

Replied: 22nd Oct 2010 at 21:56

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Com esta la teva ass per caps negre, Ralph?

Replied: 22nd Oct 2010 at 22:00

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

I ralfus, I am sure both of us know you, first time i have known you to post on here, you OK?

Replied: 22nd Oct 2010 at 22:10

Posted by: bert (685)

hi ralfus do you live near my mate chissy.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2010 at 16:22

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Remember Ralfus when Wigan World was lqqk ? you told me about it & in all that time you have only just posted,

Replied: 24th Oct 2010 at 20:14

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

He will be back Tumgingle , just having a bit of trouble with his computer give him time

Replied: 25th Oct 2010 at 08:42

Posted by: bert (685)

hi dougie isit whom i think it is .and as anyone found out who greener is.

Replied: 30th Oct 2010 at 16:04

Posted by: jouell (4705)

bert, I don't have a clue who greener is..I must say I don't much like someone knowing who I am, when I don't know who they are.

Replied: 30th Oct 2010 at 17:36

Posted by: jondav (98) 

Come clean Greener.

Replied: 31st Oct 2010 at 10:55

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Come on Greener, Let us know who you are,

Replied: 2nd Nov 2010 at 19:08

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Iv'e just put a photo on Holly Trinity Rector, Can anyone put names to the ladies, My mother is 4th from the left back row. It's on Assorted,& on album,

Replied: 7th Nov 2010 at 20:32
Last edited by bentlegs: 7th Nov 2010 at 20:35:07

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Two old Downer greeners collecting in Asda today, Stan Sudworth(90)and Tommy Atherton(85) if you see them anywhere tell them you've seen their photo

Replied: 8th Nov 2010 at 16:12

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bentlegs, may i ask you about tommy hilton is he still with us, he was a good friend of my father gerry they both drove coaches in sixties and seventies.

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 10:37

Posted by: micky east (inactive)

sweet lord how big is downall green does every resident hold an acc on here!!!

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 10:51

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi micky, you won't be far off wrong there pal lol .

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 10:53

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Downall Green was a great place to live and a whole lot of great peolpe living there...

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 12:20

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi jouell, i agree with you there having spent most of my life being brought up on the estate, i met and knew all the famalies at the time, and met some great people some of which i keep intouch with on this wonderful thread, i still have fantastic memories of the people of the village both past and present, it was certainly a wonderful place to have spent most of my years, if my wife wasn't so happy where we are now i reckon i get a little closer to my old roots. .

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 12:40

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

BamBam, Our Tommy is still going strong, He drives part time for First Bus Taking kids to school & picking the up in the Afternoon, he turned 70 in July, I will tell him you have been asking about him,
I knew your dad very well, we played together when we lived in Station Rd, Nice chap.

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 19:20

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks for that bentlegs, im so glad tommy is still going strong, i remember him well as i was growing up on d-green and brockstedes, if i am not mistaken i remember his coach being parked in coronation st he was driving for unsworths at that time.

Replied: 9th Nov 2010 at 23:45

Posted by: maz1976 (72) 

Helllo everyone,

Not been on here for a long time as facebook took over, but now got rid of it and got me life back. Bet you all forgot me now lol.
If anyone remembers me i am a very proud ex downallgreener and i was living in Dubai, i have now come back as i miss good old wigan...you can take the girl away from wigan but you cant take wigan out the girl haa.
You probably know my dad more than me Brian Halliwell.If anyone knows me would be nice to hear from you.

Replied: 14th Nov 2010 at 01:04

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

I remember you but only off here nice to see you back, I've said before knew your dad all my life, plus all his family before he got married but I wouldn't know you

Don't forget the END key Maz plus anyone else

Replied: 14th Nov 2010 at 07:26
Last edited by dougie: 14th Nov 2010 at 08:40:04

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi maz, i remember you hope your keeping well, i knew your father very well to had many a pint with him and lillian simm, good old days.

Replied: 14th Nov 2010 at 07:43

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hey whups, have ya seen them pictures on album of smiths coaches, do they bring back memories or nightmares, i remember when coach pulled up to take em to pit most of em was hiding behind bell door.

Replied: 24th Nov 2010 at 17:49

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

What year did you work at Eckersley's Bambam?
I worked there for a while in 60's.

Replied: 24th Nov 2010 at 19:05

Posted by: bambam (2120)

oh trixie, well before my time that love i started there in 1977 and was there when it closed doors in 1988, how can someone as young as you have worked there in 60s.

Replied: 25th Nov 2010 at 20:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

It must have bin child labour,

Replied: 25th Nov 2010 at 20:42

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Ha ha love that one trixie, where's thi mate lanky not heard from her lately.

Replied: 25th Nov 2010 at 20:57

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

She's busy playin games on facebook.

Replied: 25th Nov 2010 at 20:59
Last edited by trixie: 25th Nov 2010 at 20:59:42

Posted by: bambam (2120)

oh no, not another all my family is hooked by that dooin mi yed in.

Replied: 25th Nov 2010 at 21:13

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie how was your cruise nice to see your back.cant get on so much with my son and grandkids on them games.

Replied: 27th Nov 2010 at 19:34

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Hi Bert,We had a great time.but missed corfu because of bad weather,and had to stop 2 hours away from Dubai because of terrarists so only had 5 hours insted of 2 days.we had barbed wire on the front of the ship.went on the big wheel in Singapore which is built on the f1 track.

The Captain was from Wigan...

Replied: 27th Nov 2010 at 19:48
Last edited by trixie: 28th Nov 2010 at 16:06:15

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie was the barbed wire to keep you on because the captain new about people from downall green must not go there on next trip.

Replied: 29th Nov 2010 at 11:48

Posted by: bert (685)

bentlegs have you looked at the dvds yet did you like them

Replied: 29th Nov 2010 at 11:50

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I'm not sure but i never mentioned where in WIGAN i was from.

I could'nt disguise the accent even James Martn commented on my accent......

Replied: 29th Nov 2010 at 13:17

Posted by: bert (685)

is that james martin the chef .if so will you be on his cookery programe on saturdays i like him. was his food good.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2010 at 14:38

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

yes i asked him why the so called signed copy of his book i bought had a sticky label in it ...but i never got an answer.but he said he would send me another copy...i'm still waitin.
He was only on 3 days and he only cooked a bit as he was too jetlagged.a few disappointed people.i never went in there.just watch him on tele.
No i wont be on on Saturday but I MIGHT ring in with a question if i don't get my book.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2010 at 15:10

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Not yet Burt,

Replied: 2nd Dec 2010 at 20:01

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, went in bryn labour club sun old lads from landgate baz and bob anders want know if tha fancies coming back to buffs, we have two lodges now one at 12.30 sun aft, and one at 7.00 sun neet whats think.

Replied: 9th Dec 2010 at 03:23

Posted by: royboy (24)

Hi Tonker, just been catching up on the thread and think I might have figured out who you are. The Parkside reference and the shop gave me a clue.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 02:47

Posted by: bambam (2120)

That's a closely regarded secret royboy.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 03:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Bert my book arrived off James Martin that was a surprise.

Only thing is it's a differant Book!!!Who Cares.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 09:31

Posted by: bert (685)

hi bam bam nice to hear of you just come out of walton specialist hospital had a spine op .had a cage put put round my spine.ive getten more spare parts than million dollar man.not alot of timeon sundays due to child minding.but one day i may just shock you.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 12:27

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixieim glad you got your boook when you visit bryn or ashton you must make a nice pie or stew because he maakes soome nice stuff on tele.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 12:31

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Aye i might just do that when av got me cookin head on,

I'm always makin stews and hot pots (with a crust on)with beetroot this weather.and lotsssss mince pies,but we keep eatin um.
Sorry you've been in hospital Bert,how do you manage babysittin after all that? i hope you're well for christmas.

Replied: 11th Dec 2010 at 15:57
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Posted by: bambam (2120)

oh thanks bert i hope ya do, didn't know you had been in pal for further attachments, get thi sen reet for chrimmi

Replied: 13th Dec 2010 at 01:15

Posted by: bambam (2120)

By the way bert, can i have contract for weighing thee in when tha decides go feet up.

Replied: 13th Dec 2010 at 01:17

Posted by: bert (685)

hi trixie i like costcos mince pies.my wife looks after the grandkids more than me they keep saying they keep you young but i dont think its working for me .and bam bamyou no chance wifes getten one leg of mine on scales now.

Replied: 17th Dec 2010 at 17:17

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

Mind you don't fall over.....

Replied: 17th Dec 2010 at 17:54

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi bert, are you going to suprise us after new year.

Replied: 20th Dec 2010 at 11:25
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Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi dougie, i have some info from 1800s all pubs and landlords will try and put em on album.

Replied: 20th Dec 2010 at 14:50
Last edited by bambam: 21st Dec 2010 at 19:11:16

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Yes I've been looking at the North Ashton one on Album that very interesting

No need for anyone reply to this it's just me wishing you all a

Replied: 22nd Dec 2010 at 09:03

Posted by: bambam (2120)

merry christmas dougie and better half, if you look on old pubs from 1800s that i have put on album it states that there was a lord nelson in north ashton, any idea where this was dougie.

Replied: 22nd Dec 2010 at 15:01

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Hi Bambam have a look here Lord Nelson

Replied: 22nd Dec 2010 at 16:17

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

bambam must be ready for downall green 4 happy xmas

Replied: 22nd Dec 2010 at 19:47

Posted by: lanky11 (4088) 

Merry Christmas Bam bam to you and yours and all who post on this thread where as Trixie gone off to now always off some where or other Great pics dougie Merry Christmas

Replied: 23rd Dec 2010 at 21:57

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi lanky,thank you all the best to you and your family over there.

Replied: 24th Dec 2010 at 06:24

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

merry christmas to all downall greeners

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 07:31

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

ALL THE BEST PETER & ALL THE OTHER GREENERS,

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 13:12

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Thanks to you all, all the best everyone

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 13:26

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Merry Christmas to all Downall Greeners and Tonker, as he jumps in here as much as greeners do

Love and Best Wishes to you all.....

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 15:05

Posted by: suesa (596)

Merry Christmas Jouell and all Downall Greeners, past & present.
Hope you have all had a special day

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 18:43

Posted by: jouell (4705)

It's been different Sue, but it's been good...Tomorrow will be the special day when my young 9yr old grandson will be here....Hope you've had a good day Sue and all greeners.....

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 20:58

Posted by: suesa (596)

We had a good yet very busy day as we were lucky to have our 3 grandchildren here,plus my Mum was with us for dinner (always a special time), 9 of us round the table.Also we had a chat with our Brent in Australia and our daughter in Spain. Technology makes it possible for us all to keep in touch so much easier now though a hug would be so much better. Enjoy your day tomorrow

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 21:44
Last edited by suesa: 25th Dec 2010 at 21:47:21

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I agree sue, re hugs being better than just phone calls,or even skype...only Stephen is on skype, so it's nice to see all the family, but have to make do with the phone with everyone else... I hate being so far away, especially on the holidays....Give my Love and Best Wishes to your Mum for me please and hope you all enjoy the rest of the holidays.....

Replied: 25th Dec 2010 at 23:19

Posted by: suesa (596)

Thank you Jouell, will pass your message on to Mum

Replied: 27th Dec 2010 at 22:45

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hello folks, anyone any info on park hotel.

Replied: 29th Dec 2010 at 21:51

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Hi BamBam your thread as been running for three years now, would the new year not be a good time to start Downall Greeners 4 and see if you can get another year out of it This could be added to the others then call the next one Downall Greeners 4 (Wiganers for ever )

Replied: 29th Dec 2010 at 22:44
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Posted by: tonker (21862) 

I think you St.Helensers are going to have to negotiate a sub-lease on this site with Brian!

And you can have your 'section' decorated with your 'Coat of Arms' .............

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 01:42

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Their Wiganers and always will be

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 07:58
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Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I quite agree Dougie.


Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 09:19

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Don't be silly, you two!

How can they possibly be Wiganers? They are miles from Wigan, but actually IN St.Helens. IN Ashton in Makerfield, and IN Downall Green.
You can tell they're St.Helensers, because they have a brown dustbin!

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 12:45
Last edited by tonker: 30th Dec 2010 at 12:54:50

Posted by: dr wat (inactive)

we have a brown dustbin now i know why it never gets empted its that lot from st helens

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 12:49

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Don't underestimate them, dr wat. I have a house in St.Helens, and they haven't missed any bin collections, or failed to clear the snow away, over Christmas.
With all this efficiency, it's a wonder that they manage to keep the council tax down below what we have to pay!

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 13:24

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I've NEVER had a brown dustbin.

How very dare YOU.




When are you moving to St Helens then Tonker?

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 16:23

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

I've no plans on moving into St.Helens, trixie. And, the reason why you've never had a St.Helens brown bin is that you've never lived in Downall Green. If you had lived in Downall Green, you'd have had one!

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 18:20

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

I did live there you know.
When it was proper Downall green.

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 18:31

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Well, I am just about knackerd,I have spent the last 2 hours re-reading Downall Greeners,& i still dont know who Greener is,
Uncle Joe, Do you remember Keith Pilling & Peter Carroll, two people who have not had a mention on here, I think they lived almost accrossthe road from you, Keith went to live in South Africa,only seen him twice in fifty odd years, Dougie may remember them, There was also Albert Thompson out of Cedar Grove & Harold parkinson but they may be a bit older than you..

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 22:28

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Keith and Peter lived next door but two form us at number 10, and Uncle Joe lived across the road from us Albert and Harold lived in the next house to Uncle Joe

Tumtingle this Greener is younger than me but someone tells him about things he knows to many younger than me , other than that he must be 78/80 because he as seen things I've not

Replied: 30th Dec 2010 at 23:07

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Trixie, I thought you told me you lived 'over the water', in Brockstedes Avenue?

Replied: 31st Dec 2010 at 02:04

Posted by: trixie (5019) 

No Booths Brow road, not Brockstedes ave.
Before that Hawthorne Avenue.

I lived in Booths Brow When they split the Boundries in the middle of the brook.We backed on to the Brook.

Replied: 31st Dec 2010 at 09:45

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Bentlegs, even though they are all older than me, I remember all apart from Keith.

There are quite a few names though that I've not seen mentioned on here, from both Cedar Grove and Poplar Ave. i wonder what happened to some of them?

Replied: 31st Dec 2010 at 11:49

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi tonker, well done you seem to have lived up to your re putation in winding greeeners up, i know your'e only joking as you have said so in earlier thread, but please don't try to shove us off onto st helens board? if they have one? may i wish you and your family a happy new year.....oh and all the best.

Replied: 3rd Jan 2011 at 02:20
Last edited by bambam: 3rd Jan 2011 at 16:32:15

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Thank you, Dave. And the same to you!

Although, no, I'm not trying to shove you off onto the St.Helens board, with the rest of your fellow St.Helensers. Not at all!
What I had in mind was a, kind of, 'coalition forum' on a 'hung website'.
And Downall Greeners could occupy the back-benches!

Replied: 3rd Jan 2011 at 12:23

Posted by: PeterP (7864)

tonker cannot get rid of downall greeners onto a st helens site as he spends all his time telling us d/green and garswood are part of ashton so he would have to back track which is not in tonkers nature

Replied: 3rd Jan 2011 at 12:48

Posted by: bowler 1 (21)

haaaaha...down a gridder born & bred..uncle kev ni strange garden...antie tracy..luv her 2 bits...uncle francis painter can paint a mean wall...uncle dennis!!!!!!!!!!! spacecowboy!!!uncle craig...r.i.p,,,luv u miss u soooo mutch...sheila,,,tony... happy new yr XXX yes we are the duffys....xxxxxx..ps berni my mummy!! love u...XXX

Replied: 5th Jan 2011 at 00:21

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

A difficult question, I know, but can anyone name the families that lived in Cedar Grove, and the numbers they lived at, from the first ones that moved in, to say 1960 or even later?

Replied: 10th Jan 2011 at 18:46

Posted by: tonker (21862) 

Maybe the local council would be able to help you with that one, off their records.

Now then, let me see, which council would that be?

Replied: 10th Jan 2011 at 20:08

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

Uncle Joe next to you going up the Grove the first people in the houses from new was, Sutton, Cunliffe, Crompton,(---?---) Hutchingson, Prior, Davies, Heatons, Winstanley, Adamson, Shephard, Turner, and across from youe was Parkinson, I think

Replied: 10th Jan 2011 at 22:07

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

Tonker: If you Google Cedar Grove, and use Street View, you will see that they give the address as Cedar Grove
Ashton-in-Makerfield, Wigan, St. Helens WN4 0QR. So you've even got them confused enough to think Wigan is in St. Helens!

Dougie: From my own memory, the people in the house next door to Cromptons were the Pimbletts, I think that they moved to Ireland. The only family that I remember next door to the Priors were the Slaters. But what were the house numbers? It was previously mentioned that Priors lived in number 6, but which way did the numbers go from there?

Replied: 11th Jan 2011 at 07:46

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

uncle joe how can you ask that and you lived at the bottom of the grove

Replied: 11th Jan 2011 at 08:07

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I've got the worlds worst memory....

Replied: 11th Jan 2011 at 10:08

Posted by: bambam (2120)

when i lived on estate in 70s, turners lived at no 1 sheperds at 2 cunliffes at 3 bowlers at 4 heatons at 5 davies at 6 scullys at 7 bolands at 8 fellows at 9 crompton at 10 not sure about 11 suttons at 12. good old days.

Replied: 15th Jan 2011 at 18:52
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Posted by: uncle joe (697)

I am now totally confused as regards the numbers. Starting at Suttons, and working clockwise:

Suttons,12. Cunliffes,3. Cromptons,9. Someone at ? Someone at ?? Scullys,6. Davies's,5. Someone at ??? Heatons,4. Someone at ???? Shepherds, 2. Turners,1.

Is that correct? If so, how did they think when numbering the houses? They seem to jump all over the place.

Replied: 15th Jan 2011 at 20:07

Posted by: bambam (2120)

uncle joe, if your'e entering cedar number 1 was on right {john turner} going round grove to {tommy suttons} which ended at number 12, hope this helps you.

Replied: 15th Jan 2011 at 22:42

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

It only confuses me even more. That way would have put Cunliffes at number 11, as they were next door to Tommy Sutton, Cromptons at number 10, Davies' at number 6, would it not?

Not to labour a point, but that the reason for my confusion.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 10:21

Posted by: dougie (4424) 

It was me thinking my sister lived at number 6 Prior's old house and it must have been number 7 , so started Sutton's number 1, which you would think it would run left to right round the grove sorry

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 10:53

Posted by: bambam (2120)

i think, cunliffes was a different family in my era joe, julie cunliffe will be approx 52 now and lives on rectory rd facing church, but when she was younger they lived at number 3 cedar grove.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 13:01

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

My thinking regarding the numbering was exactly the same as yours, Dougie. somehow, it seems more logical.

Bambam, the Cunliffes that I knew had a daughter, Rita. I think that Dougie will remember them as well.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 14:23

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi uncle joe, there was cunliffes that lived there in 60s, not sure of the number but it was a different family than the one i grew up with.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 16:02

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)

Fred Cunliffe lived in the grove, Rita the only one i knew was his daughter,

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 18:49

Posted by: frankwalford (1098) 

there was a Joan and Doreen Cunliffe, sisters who lived on that Estate I dont know where though.Their mum and dad used to go in the Village club.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 20:16

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Joan and Doreen lived on the Island across from Bert... I was friends with Doreen.....

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 20:34

Posted by: bambam (2120)

Hi frank, i knew them well their parents lived on island in elm ave, doreen married john bryan and lived in birch grove, joan married roy wall and lived in poplar ave.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 20:36

Posted by: brocstedes (4)

Does anyone know where Pig Street was, off Rectory Road

What was the name of the street from Sudworths in Rectory Road and exit in Booths Brow Road

Also, does anyone know what the mill, at Dam Corner in Downall Green Road, manufactured.

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 21:14
Last edited by brocstedes: 16th Jan 2011 at 22:23:00

Posted by: suesa (596)

Brocstedes there are photos on here of the area around Pig Street. Quite a lot of information about it too. Link

Sorry don't think I can help with the mill question, but I'm sure someone will know

Replied: 16th Jan 2011 at 23:32
Last edited by suesa: 16th Jan 2011 at 23:36:05

Posted by: bambam (2120)

only place i knew down there was cromptons factory, but that was across from old legion {s&s} we will have to wait for dougie or bentlegs on this one.

Replied: 17th Jan 2011 at 00:25
Last edited by bambam: 17th Jan 2011 at 00:28:08

Posted by: uncle joe (697)

As a follow-on to my question about who lived where in Cedar Grove, I've now got this info, so thought that it might be of interest to some of you.

NO.1 Turners
NO.2 Shepards
NO.3 Adamsons until 1960. Then Coombes for about a year. Then Caters
NO.4 Winstanleys until about 1959. Then Hendleys for a couple of years. Then Bowlers
NO.5 Heatons
NO.6 Davies
NO7. Priors until about 1962. Then Scullys (Mrs. Scully was Nora Yates before marriage)
NO8. Hutchinsons until about 1957. Then Slaters until the late 60's. Then Bolands (Mrs Boland was Rita Slater before marriage)
NO.9 Pimbletts until about 1958. Then Thompsons for a few years. Then Fellows.
NO.10 Cromptons
NO.11 Cunliffes
NO.12. Suttons

There are quite a few names that haven't been mentioned

Replied: 17th Jan 2011 at 11:49

Posted by: bert (685)

hi frank joan and doreen lived near me on the island on elm ave next to alf and jimmy edwards.sadly they have both passed away awhile ago.the cunliffes in the grove was les and rita.

Replied: 17th Jan 2011 at 14:06

Posted by: jouell (4705)

Bert...When did Doreen die, what happened? I never saw her after leaving Downall Green.....

Replied: 17th Jan 2011 at 15:31

Posted by: bentlegs (4552)