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ex-downall greeners4
Started by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
ex-downall greeners
ex-downall greeners2
ex-Downall Greeners 3

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Here we go ex-downall greeners 4.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Ok babmbam.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Kevin's Garden Centre at Downall Green
Click Photo, ( Thanks for making the video )

If you go tell him that you've seen it on Wigan World he'll love to hear that

I like the man Kevin Duffy so I've added more links to Kevin's video's click here will done Bennie thanks

Kevin 1

Kevin 2

Kevin 3


Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Some of the things you may find if you look back over the other threads

Click photo for a Slideshow


Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Dougie, Downall Green is NOT in Wigan council area, it's in St.Helens. It is represented on the St.Helens council 'coat of arms' by two crosses taken from that of the Gerard family.

Get used to it!


Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
ask anyone from Downall Green if their Wiganers, or St-Heleners, I bet I win hands down

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
Tonker lives in Ashton most folk relate to him has a Yicker but he comes from Warrington

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I don't know if its Haydock,St-Helens,or Warrington,but I know he only climbed over the wall to get out or in which ever

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
I was born in Haydock, in Warrington, and lived there for 26 years before moving to Ashton, where I live now.

And, Dougie, people from Downall Green are neither Wiganers or St.Helensers. They're Downall Greeners, from Ashton in Makerfield. Council, postcode or telephone dialling code means nowt!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
When I was younger and living in Downall Green... before post codes and telephone dialling codes, the address always was.....

North Ashton, Nr Wigan...

Never a mention anywhere, any time, of St Helens....... apart from my Mam who was born in Black Brook, St Helens....

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
My cousin lives in Spindle Hillock and the adress is Noth Ashton nr Wigan even though it comes under ST. Helens.

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
Downall Green or North Ashton has been and always will be near Wigan. You can't change that.

Posted by: brianjgreen (492) Report abuse
Tonker,born in haydock in warrington....explain please
i was born in warrington in lancashire.
downall green as a wigan post code.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Indeed, the distance between the Downall Green part of Ashton, and Wigan, has always been the same and cannot be changed.

Much like the distance between Chester and Wales has always been the same, as has the distance between Carlisle and Scotland. These also cannot be changed.

But, Chester is in England, not Wales, and Carlisle is in England, not Scotland, regardless of how 'close' they are.

It's a bit like that with Downall Green. It's part of Ashton and, although it's only about 3 miles from Wigan, it's actually in St.Helens.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
But it wasn't always in St Helens, for those of us that were born and brought up in Downall Green, Nr Wigan, that's the way it will always be.....I'd left before it became St Helens, so I've never lived in St Helens

I've lived in the States, longer now than I lived in England, when asked where I'm from, I say Downall Green, Nr Wigan.........

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
One half of Ashton has been in St.Helens for exactly as long as the other half has been in the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan. Before then, Ashton wasn't in either.

Also, for the same length of time, Haydock has also been in St.Helens, whereas before, it wasn't.
It wasn't in St.Helens when I was born there. But that doesn't alter the fact that it is now.

And, and you can check this, you'll find that Downall Green was closer to St.Helens, before it became part of it, than it was to Wigan.

Jouell, you said your 'mam' was born in Haydock?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Yes, my Mam was born in Black Brook....

Yes I know that ( well, I've never measured it ), DG is closer to St H, than W... but wigan was always part of the address and where we went shopping, never St H... just the way it was...

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Your 'mam' was born in either Haydock, Parr or Ashton. Black Brook is just that, a brook. If she was born in either Haydock or Ashton she wasn't born in St.Helens.

Yes. Some parts of Ashton are in the Wigan postal area (WN), some parts are in Warrington postal area (WA).

If you like going shopping in Liverpool, does it make you a Scouser?

Posted by: brianjgreen (492) Report abuse
Gavin...when was haydock in warrington

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
If 'anywhere with a WN postcode is in Wigan', Haydock must be in Warrington. Because that's where it's post is delivered from. Daft ideas abound on here Brian!

Posted by: acr47 (59) Report abuse
Was Phyllis Simpkin who married Ronnie any relations to ADAMSON family in Ashton?
Also Jimmy ORMSHAW---does anyone if he is related to ADAMSON's.Thanks

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I was just saying that's the way it was .....I'm not saying you're right, or I'm right, right now I don't give a monkeys you know what... that's just the way it was.....


Dear God, what a person has to go through on here for saying they DON'T come from St Helens....... for you tonker


Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse





I'm sayin nowt!!!!!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
What did I say a few weeks ago trixie... I'd been off for a while and you asked why, I said I didn't get in bother if I said nowt...
Well I spoke up yesterday and look what happened.......Fact is, I've NEVER lived in St Helens, I'd left DG before it became part of St Helens..... Bet the buggers sat there laughing at how he winds people up..

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Look. Get this into your head.

I'm not trying to 'wind anyone up'. I'm simply pointing out, to Dougie, who posted the Wigan Council coat of arms onto a thread which it doesn't belong, that Downall Green is NOWADAYS, in St.Helens and not in the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan.

I'm saying that Downall Green has NEVER been in Wigan Council area and has NEVER been any closer, or further away, from Wigan than it is today.
That is regardless of when you moved out, or moved in, or where you went shopping, or which football / rugby team you support, where your milkman lives, what bus goes past your house or which boy's brigade troop you went camping with when you was little!

Anyone living in the St.Helens part of Ashton, who's in love with Wigan MBC, should move into the Wigan MBC area and pay more council tax for a poorer service.

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
I'm with you jouell,I know exactly what you mean. Take no notice of the ignorant pillock.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Well i did live in Downall Green till 23 years ago even though i lived in Booths Brow road when i left.i still say it's is Downall Green and i will not change my mind about that.Tonker and i have had a "discusion" before and when he's losing he just stops posting.But it gave everybody some entertainment.
At least i knew where the boundery was split.
don't worry about it jouell.
But we miss him when he's not here.

[:w

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Not defending Tonker here but this actually happend to me after getting off the I-O-M ferry at Llandudno in the 70s,I was picked out and escorted to a shed to be checked as a IRA suspect the first question they asked was my name and where do you come from my reply was WIGAN, after more questions one of them being the name of the street I lived in latter my house number,they told me the address I had given wasn't in Wigan, then the penny dropped no I live in Ashton-in- Makerfield but we always say Wigan as everyone knows Wigan

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I'm stickin to Downall Green.

We all have our own oppinions so best not to worry about.Life's too short.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
You say you live where you don't, you refuse to accept who your local authority is, yet you know very little about the actual place you worship so much. Unbelievable!

Still, the insane always understand each other. To an educated outsider, it's all bunkum!

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Where would we be without him.Aw Bless.





Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I'm not worried trixie or upset.... and it is as dougie said, when asked where you are from, Ashton-in-Makerfield means nothing, but say Wigan and everybody knows.... well almost everybody.....

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Hang on a minute, Jouell! I didn't see where Trixie asked if you were 'worried or upset'. Come to think of it, I never said anything about you living in St.Helens! What is there to get all flustered about?

And Trixie, I've heard people say they're from Downall Green simply because they live on Downall Green Road. That's opposite Our Ladies church, even further away from Downall Green than Booths Brow Road!

Eeeeeeeeeh, what y'all laaaaaike, you lot!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Eeeeeeeeeeeh, what y'all laaaaike.... You've no need talk tonker...

Tonker, at 10.44 you said... DG is not in Wigan council area it is in St Helens...

Trixie at 19.16 said.... don't worry about it jouell..

At 20.46 I said...I'm not worried, then I threw in the 'upset' for good measure...

At 23.37 I said.....I've had enough of this, and I'm saying
no more on this subject... I'm done I tell ya.. done...

Can we please get back to the original reason for the DG thread...all about Downall Greeners.....

Eeeeeeeeeh, what ya like tonker...

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
It shows how popular Downall Green is tonker.




Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Jouell- you once asked me about Jack Slaters Pen, these are just for you if ever you would like to see other places just ask,(will delete photo's as others may not be interested)

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Awwww Thanks Dougie, that was really nice of you to do that for me... Now I'm crying as I'm really homesick and wish I could go back in time...I miss DG as it used to be, with all the people that lived there when we were all young, we know that can never happen, but......

Thanks again Dougie... if it's not too much of a bother... Bluebell woods when the bluebells are out.... Not to worry if it can't be done.. I'm made up with what you've sent today...

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
It was no trouble as I was at the churchyard you maybe alongway away but your still a Downer Greener so it just shows someone was thinking about you you'll knot know the wood as it's all over grown but will see what I can do

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
See dougie, it's the part....'someone was thinking of you' that means SO much to me... Thanks again

Don't trouble yourself about the woods, if I would have thought about it, the woods must be vastly dofferent than when I was young... back then it was such a lovely place with all the bluebells....

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Good photos again Dougie.

I got tears in my eyes too.
Soft beggars we are.
Bluebells would be good to Dougie.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
was at bluebell wood last week trixie, can't believe how much it's changed there is no path through wood now had to turn back half way through, such a shame i loved that place.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
On second thoughts Dougie it's best not to bother we may be in tears again!!!
Perhaps we could get a gang and walk up there and tread it down and make a path again bambam?
With wellies and clippers.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Dougie, maybe trixie is right and best not to bother with Bluebell woods, if it's as bad as Bambam said....

It was such a lovely place when we were all young and in my minds eye I can still see it...when the bluebells were out it was a sea of bluebells, just gorgeous !!!!

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
has kids we would start off on booths brow rd and walk through the dell then under the bridge at the dam go through the bluebell wood under the railway bridge walk down the brook to the skitters ,play for the day then walk back again nobody got hurt or caused damage and felt safe

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
That part on the right hand side over the brook as you entered the wood is now part of the gardens to the houses thats been built on the meadow at the top,my friend lives in one that backs onto the wood thats how I know they've a very nice back garden going down to the brook

done the same walk ppnwafter you had walked under the railway and came out at the other side their was the remains of another wood what was that called

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
dougie two of my mum and dads freinds live in one of those houses . i will just put the first letter of ther name are they the same freinds R and K

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
No not the same rbilly, everytime you bring your Mums name up it takes me back to the 40/50s when we was growing up together playing in the street as you do, I didn't know your Dad as he didn't come from DG and your Mum moved away from the area when she married

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
yes dougi moved to sharp street in wigan. and then to norley hall. and then back to downhall green where she lived up untill we lost her 11 years ago miss her so much and my dad it is 27 years for my dad .he was from south wales moved hear when he was 17 to live with his sister .wish i could turn back the clock still remember playing in the grove popping tar bubbles with lolly sticks and going in full of the stuff and getting told of be cause it was over my dresswhen did they cut down the tree that was in the middle of the grove i loved that tree when i was little they were all over the estate from what i can remember dont think there is any left now is there and we used to love coming up to my mothers and fathers for jelly sunday carried on all through to me bringing my chilldren . but like every thing else things change and not always for the better..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi rbilly, all trees that were on estate have now been cut down, the last ones to come down was on island crossing elm ave and poplar ave.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
That's why the Avenues were named the way they were, after the trees planted on them.. Lilac, Hawthorne, etc etc... It was a beautiful estate before vandalism started.. in the late 60s or so.......then it started to go downhill... Such a shame, some people didn't realize ( or care ) how good they had it and sent the place to rack and ruin and spoiled it for everybody...

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell, It was 1974 when St Helens took over, they sent all the crap family's from Parr & other parts of St Helens, You could go out & leave your door unlocked before that happened, now you have to leave lights on at night if the house is empty,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I stand corrected bentlegs... o wise one

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
I left DG in 1975 and a lot of the verges between the footpath and the road by this time were already tarmaced and most of the trees had been removed by the council.People even before were parking cars/vans etc on the grass verges and turning them into mudbaths and knocking walls down and putting wrecks in their front gardens.DG was a nice village to live when you were young and knew nothing better but like any other village it had its grot spots and rough families.Also even then houses were being broken into(ours inc).Dg to some people now is a nice place but a think its a one horse town ,one pub one club one school one shop one chippy would not go back to live there for a gold pig

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Until the time I left DG (1969) it was a good place to live. I certainly dont remember much crime, apart from that carried out by one individual. Even that ceased when he was sent to reform school. Crime did increase from the early 70's, but that was due to new people moving in, as the original residents either passed or moved away.

Then, it was different, and far from being a "one horse town." On Rectory Road alone, there were at least 14 businesses! In amongst those were one pub and two clubs. Who needs more anyway? One can only drink in one place at a time!

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Uncle joe- I had replied to PPNW post almost in the same way as you and just before I finished the computer shut down to do some updating so it was no use putting it back on

would just like to add the bigger lads that moved on the estate came from all over the Ashton area but soon made DG their home and they didn't half look after their own when we went to the big school

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Dougie, was your sister married to Kenny Sutton?

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Dougie, from some of the stories I've heard, my brother was involved in the "looking after their own" bit...

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi dougie, was alan yates who worked at reeds any relation to you.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Or Mark Yates, who rides a bike, or their Stan even?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Tonker- they are no relation to me in anyway but I do know them, their Dad Stan was always a good friend as we lived next door but one to each other from birth in 1939/40 and went through school together

Bambam-Alan was no relation but have know him before he got married thats over 50 years

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Sorry was thinking they was all from the same family but the girl that Ken married came from the Wigan area as I worked at Reeds with her brother and sister

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi tonks, if you mean mark and stan that lived on poplar ave, i know them both well.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Yes, I should imagine you do Dave. I know their sister as well. I couldn't think of her name earlier, but it's Pat. She was married to Billy H.

Dougie, I know Kenny Sutton's (step) daughter very well. She told me she had 'Yates' relatives in the Downall Green / Bryn area, that's why I asked. I think Kenny was from Spindle Hillock?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Yes he did, Kenny past away about two years ago

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi dougie, did kenny have a brother named jimmy lived on old rd at one time.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I remember Jimmy from a terraced house just past S+S in spindle hillock.He had a brother Kenny and a Sister too.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
That is same jimmy trixie, i remember he left his first wife and shacked up with another lady on old road next to shop at side of cansfield.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Think Jimmy died as well;

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
oh thats bad news bentlegs, my father learned him to drive on coaches back in early 80s.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Getting mixed up here was their two Jim Sutton's that lived at downall green then, one moved to Downall Green Road when he got married think it was next door to Mr Waterhouse a big lad would be about 67 now, think he also came from Spindle Hillock would be younger than Kenny or is it the same one

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Their most be people out there thats been shouting the answers to the questions thats been asked on here over the last three years, that look and read these threads but can't answer because their not registered ,so get registered and join in we would like your input

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
You're right dougie, it's the same few that get on here all the time, there has to be others out there.... What about greener....he/she was asking us all if we knew this or that... maybe he/she would know some of the answers we're looking for.... Come on all D Greeners, stop just looking and join in...

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Tumtingle, I think that both the Jimmy Suttons are couins,Big Jimmy lives round the corner from me,Kenny's brother Jimmy, i think he died,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
the Jimmy i remember was younger than his Brother Kenny,and i thought would be about 64-65?

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
kenny suttons brother jimmy was younger than ken he will be 64 or maybe 65 now and he did live in downall green rd but not seen him in along time.dont knowwhere he is now.he was in the school year above me.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, bentlegs tells us he may have passed away i remember in early 80s my father was driver training, his learners was all lads from bryn including me, there was joe wilde, jim sutton, raymond cottom,roy parkinson, bob smith and another young lad can't remember his name, also lad from cedar grove bob parry who is no longer with us, you problably remember them all.

Posted by: erwick (126) Report abuse
There were 2 Jim Suttons in Spindle Hillock, living across the road from each other, they were cousins.
The first Jim had an older brother Ken and an older sister Maureen, who used to live in Platt Bridge. Their parents were Arthur and Agnes.
Across the road at 67, was Harry Sutton and his wife Lucy. Their children were David, Jim and John. David died last year, while Jim lives on Downall Green Road with his wife, Janet. Youngest brother John now lives in America.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Thanks erwick,i could not think of Jimmy's sisters name Maureen,

It was mitherin me.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
"It was mitherin me" ?????? Now that's a true St.Helens word, 'mither'.

A true Wiganer would say it correctly, moider!

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Well YOU would know!!!!

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi erwick,i remember a john sutton from spindle hillock who i went school with, he would be approx 50 yrs old now could it be same one.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Bambam, He lives in North Carolina, He was at our house 12 months ago,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for that bentlegs, it must be same lad.

Posted by: erwick (126) Report abuse
Hi Bambam,
The John Sutton I know will be about 63 years old, he lived at 67 Spindle Hillock and as bentlegs says he lives in North Carolina.
There is another Sutton family in Spindle Hillock, Hughie and Elsie. They have a son Hugh John, brother to Enid, whether he is nearer the 50 mark and is the one you're thinking of, I'm not sure.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks erwick, that sounds like the one i remember his name was hugh john.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
The Sutton I know, said her gran lived in the first terraced house on the left as you head towards Low Bank Road. That's number 76. It must have been where Kenny lived as a lad?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
It was the second house Tonker, Clank lives in the first,

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Right, bentlegs. I thought she'd said the end one. I wasn't really listening. My mind was on other things at the time!

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
That's another name i remember, brian clarence.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
That name does'nt ring any bells with me bambam.

He must be a lot younger than me.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie, brian lived at 32 birch grove before moving to spindle hillock, he must be well in 60s now his wife is doreen, children andrew, simon, lee, and joanne.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Iv'e won one with Tonker, do i geta prize?

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
The prize was a packet of Maltesers. But I've eaten 'em myself, for spite!

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
What happened on the bowling green Tonker,Not heard the proper story?.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse



Bentlegs.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie, don't hear much from lanky hope she is ok.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Yes she's okay bambam, she's playing games on facebook. she should be in the lead on there on some games.maybe get a trophy.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Saw Gwilym in Wigan today, Dressed as smart as ever like he always was, had a chat but i couldn't stop long,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Do you mean big Gwilym Hughes bentlegs?

Was he with our John?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Old Gwilym Trixie,he was by his self having a rest on the roadside rail in Wallgate

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I was under the impression he was'nt well enough to go out on his own.

Glad to hear he was okay.thanks bentlegs.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Gwylam goes wigan on a regular basis, he likes a pint in anvil.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Oh good news i thought he used to go to Tom+Jerries in Ashton.

I know our John takes him out sometimes.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Duggie, Thanks for the chocolate,not bad, might buy some next week.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
He's not sent ME any chocolate, the owd fraud!

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
It was O.K. then Tumtingle don't till how much I paid are he'll be thinking I'm reet tight he's bad enough with my Travelodge rooms,

Posted by: brynkiwi (667) Report abuse
Trixie/bentlegs i was back home about 3 years ago and went in the Tom &gerry ,while the wife went to the hairdressers just up the road ,i sat at a table when a guy came and sat down and introduced himself as Gwylam Hughes,(sounded like willhelm) small guy with a walking stick,had a good chat for a couple of hours,would this be the same guy,if it is next time you see him ask him if he remembers the guy from NZ in the T&G

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Yes thats Gwilym.

I think Brian is likely to see him as he lives across the road from him.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie, if i see him in wigan this week i will mention it to him.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


ok bambam.thanks.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
As must come from Downall green on this thread I think its right that Kevin takes his place, Thanks for making the video
Click Photo

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Thanks for posting that, Dougie.

The thing that I'm trying to do now is place him. I'm assuming that I should know him, but cant place him for some reason.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
You will know Kevin Duffy UJoe, the Duffy family lived second house in Hawthorn Ave (Lilac Ave end)he had brothers Dennis,Tony,Francis,Craig and sisters Sheila,Bernadette & Tracey. Mum & Dad were Bill&Annie. Bet you remember them now.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I uploaded this photo on WW and found out it had been lost for years some how it turned up in Kevins
Click Photo

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I don't think Joe will know Kevin as they all went to Our Ladies..

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Any d/dreeners know where Terry Turton from Popular ave got to? If you have any information frances on People would like to contact him ,

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
gery remind me again about the person called terry turton as i will ask a freind of mine he may know

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Trixie: I remember the family, but as you say, didnt know them much.

Bentlegs: Would they be any relation to the Turtons that lived on Rectory Road?

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
apart from Kevin how many of the Duffy clan still live at DG

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
last time i saw terry turton was in old road labour club with his parents a long time ago i think he lived in ashton .remember him well good friend of my brothers when they were kids.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, hope you ok pal not heard from ya in a while.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe. trying to think where theRectory Rd Turtons lived, top or bottom, have you got the names?

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bentlegs i cant remember the fathers name but i know carl he was only toung then. there was a few kids .they lived next to the bell carpark before kev had his nursery.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Bentlegs, the only name that I can remember was the daughter, Vivian, as she was in the same class as me at Rectory. Rbillys Aunty Ann will know better where the lived than me, but my memory says it was one or two doors up from Pies. I do stand to be corrected, its a long time since I've been in DG now.

Posted by: erwick (126) Report abuse
There was a Vivienne Turton, born about 1953 in Rectory Road, 49 I think, whose parents were Norman Clifford and Annie. I think he was a Post Office Engineer.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
erwick, i dont remember clifford or Annie from Rectory Rd.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
That will probably be the one that I was referring to. At which end would 49 be?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, It would be after Alf Balls shop i think,

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
We were chatting about when Cromptons was opposite the S&S club and Millingfords was behind the houses on Rectory Rd and got on about the industrial pollutants(lathe coolants etc)that were spilled over the time that both operated.Millingfords used to have a tank at the back of the yard full of waste coolant which(allegedly)was run into the brook at the back,they would not get away with this now.Wondered if the land was totaly decontaminated or did they just remove the top layer of soil/dirt has there are houses on both sites now

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
ppnw38817, That wasn't a waste cooling tank you saw but a chroming plant, there were two tanks for chroming pump parts, & the waste did go into the brook, i dont know how they got away with it,

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I for one never remember anything being run in the brook and we played all along the brook in the 40/50s so it must have been after that, the only thing I remember running into the brook was the blood out of the graveyard anyone remember saying that

as for the houses thats built on the old dam who can say what was tipped there in the 40/50s should only have been household waste, they never built houses on the old Tile Sheds they left as a green area why

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Tumtingle, It was in the 60s when the chrome plant was built, i worked on it,I left in 71 ,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
June Hilton (nee Heywood) sister to Jonny & Harry died yesterday after a long illness, I remember her living in Birch Grove, a lovley girl.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Sorry to hear that Tumtingle thanks for letting us know, I was in the same class at school as June in the 40s she also worked at Reeds at one time

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bentlegs sorry to hear about june lovely couple her and brian.lived across from my wifes family on landgate for a long time .remember her from downall green.rest in peace june.

Posted by: whups (2342)  Report abuse
tommy simm sr died yesterday.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Brian I was told about Tommy earlier. Such sad news. My thoughts and prayers are with Thelma and all the family.

Posted by: brianjgreen (492) Report abuse
Brian if you find out time of funeral txt me.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
sad news, my thoughts go to all the family, tommy was my fathers cousin, please let me know funeral arrangements bri.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
funerall is at holy trinity on friday may 13 th at 2.00pm

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks rbilly, i will b there.

Posted by: bowler 1 (21)  Report abuse
i shall tell mi uncle kev hes on ere dougie..he'll be chuffed as a butty & ppnw38817 theirs 4 duffys left livin on down all green

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Anyone remember Brenda Fayle from Hawthorne Ave, & did she go to OZ?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I went to school with Margaret but sorry i don't know if Brenda went to oz.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Just spoke to my Mum and she said that Brenda Fayle did emigrate to OZ over 35 yrs ago

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bentlegs i remember brenda and margaret didnt they live next to tickles on hawthorn ave.i heard brenda went to oz years ago .you keep turning up with names ive not heard of for years.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
She was one of the gang Bert,Nice girl.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Is this the first time the DG thread fell off the first page?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Yes Jouell, we must keep it at the top,

Posted by: kevndee (34) Report abuse
where are u bambam.gone into hiding

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I think he's gone for a rest!!!!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
We need some new blood on here, give us all something new to talk about.....I think all us older ones ( as in been talking on here for a while ) have run out of things to talk about....At least I can't think of anything right now....

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse



Who went swimming the resser?

Posted by: nutty tart (469)   Report abuse
Brenda and Margaret Fayle are my cousins. Brenda emigrated over 40 years ago and our Margaret lives at Bryn. I think they did live in Hawthorn avenue with their mum Phyllis and Dad Bert. I seem to remember our Brenda living in the terraced houses on Leyland green road near Slaters pen before she went to Oz and Auntie Phyllis moved to Brocstedes.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I remember Brenda and Margaret living on Hawthorne, they lived all but back to back with my house on Leyland Green Rd... I also remember Brenda living in the next to end terrace house on L G rd... was that after she got married? Don't remember much about them after that....


No trixie, I never did, was never allowed to and I've been scared of water all my life...

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Haha.neither did i.I was to young i just watched the older ones.

I swim now but don't like being out of my depth
Thats why i paid for all my grandchildren to have swimming lessons.the youngest is just on her's now then i've finished....

Posted by: nutty tart (469)   Report abuse
Yes jouell Brenda moved there after she married Bill Stewart

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
does any one remamber my father [grandfather ]john turner he drove the coach that took the workers to the RO F FACTORY AT HORWICH he used to park at the bottom of cedar grove and i think for a time near to the s &s club ..and i vaguley remember my mum saying he had some thing to do with the starting of the club when it was just an old shed ..i could be wrong you no the old grey matter ...

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I'm like you trixie... I'm alright in a pool, but never go past waist deep in the ocean... I'm a nervous wreck out on a boat and could never do a cruise...


I don't know anything about your Grandfather rose.... that would be something bentlegs and dougie might know... them being the " older" ones... All I do remember is that it was the old British Legion that was there before the S and S.. I don't remember when the B L was demolished... and the S and S built...



Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
rbilly: I certainly remember your granfather parking his coach in Cedar Grove, it was usually outside our kitchen window! later on, he used to park it near the garages that were at the bottom of Poplar Ave.

When the Legion was started, it was in a big white house that was later demolished. The "shed" that your mum referred to was possibly the Village Club. I'm sure that Dougie or Bentlegs will be able to chime in on this.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
There is a picture of the British Legion on page 5 in the Album / North Ashton.......It was demolished in the 60s... Why, I don't know, it was a lovely building..

The White house was across the rd, facing the green, where the bus stop used to be....

There was a picture somewhere, I'll look for it later of the old Village club, it was originally a house, I remember it was an old house even back when I was little.... As I said in an earlier post, dougie and bentlegs will know better than any of us, cos they're 'older'...

I've just looked through the old DG threads and can't find the pic... Maybe dougie was the one who put it on, then removed it...

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

I think the woman's name was Margaret that lived in it with her family.one of her children went to school with my Daughter.It's mitherin me what her last name was...

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Which house are you talking about trixie? The only people I knew in the White house..the name was Hill.... Barbara was a year or so older than me and she had a younger sister , think her name was Wendy....

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Hi jouell, You're right it was Barbara, Kathleen and Wendy Hill who lived at the White House. The old British Legion was as you say a lovely building, I remember going to a good few wedding receptions there, also when I joined Trinity Girls band we used to have band practice in the front room upstairs......



Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
White House

Old Legion

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Funny how memories change after a while. I dont remember the fence around the old Legion, and until I saw the photo remebered it as being white. I do remember one of the girls from the Trinity band though! Any idea which one, suesa?

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
There must have been the majority of the band living on the estate UncleJoe, I remember 3 at least living your part of Poplar. We had great fun times and have such fantastic memories.....................brilliant

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I don't remember Kathleen at all... isn't it funny how your memory works....or in my case, half the time it doesn't, especially as I get older...

Was the reson for the Hills moving out, due to the house being demolished? In my opinion, that part of Rectory rd looked a lot better back then than it does now....

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I think the house i'm thinking of must have been ordinary brickwork at the very end.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I didn't know anyone in any of the other houses... I used to love the old cottages... As poor as so many were in DG back then....I still think it was a much nicer place then, than it is now.....

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
I couldn't agree more with that comment!

Is my memory that the Trinity Girls Band once appeared on TV correct? Something to do with tha fact that at one time, it was the only all girl band in the UK?

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Correct joe, We were on Junior Showtime for Yorkshire tv (went to Leeds to record that) then we were on the Kenny Everett Show (filmed with him at Belle Vue along with Germaine Greer & Jonathon Routh) seems ages ago -well it was - but is still fresh in my mind

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
What happened to the band? Does it still exist?

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Yes it's still going ...... last year was the 50th Anniversary of it starting up.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I remember Nurse Stokes starting the band when i was 15.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Suesa, Trinity Girls were not the only all girls band, Cory's from Lancaster were formed years before Trinity,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Who is this Jouell calling me and Dougie owd, they will get there legs smacked, I think the new Village Club was built in 51 or 52, ready for the Coronation, it was the first day that women were allowed in the club , before coronation day it was men only. Regarding the cottages , Tommy Winstanley lived there up to them being knocked down along with Jimmy & Laura Hill,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Bentlegs I was only saying 'correct' to Uncle Joe to the fact we were on tv. Didn't know about the band you mentioned - Cory's. Were they a female brass band too? I know there was the Ivy Benson Band but that was a big band not brass.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, The Cory band were inthe first section Daily Herald , It was the only female band that i knew of, It was a Brass Band belonging to the Cory Mill,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Ahhh the only Cory band I knew/know of is the one from Wales, male & female

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I didn't say you 'are' old...I said you 'are' older than I am and most of the other DGs and you are..... Because you 'are' older, you would know more of the old DG than the rest of us.....eeehhhhh.......

So the old house that was the Village club, was that a residence before becoming the Village club and do you mean it only actually became a club in 51/52, or that's when women were allowed in.....

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
uncle joe was it kath roberts ?..she and her family are old family freinds lovely family my freinds.. freind audrey plays for trinity also .. my cuz deb orah phillips also played for them as did my daughter when she was about 10 over 20 years ago

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
rbilly: I do remember Kath Roberts, she was in the same class as me at Rectory, and then later on at AGS. The one I remember was suesa. I was trying to joke a little with her but she missed it!

I tried to find some info about the Cory Lancaster band, but couldn't. Presumably, being connected to a mill, it was a Womens Brass Band. The Trinity band was a Girls Silver Band, was it not? So on a technicality, it could still have been the only one! Whichever way it goes, we should be proud of the fact that a small community such as DG could have got the band together, and kept it going for all these years.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Jouell your right about Bentlegs being an oldman but please don't don't class me as being the same age as him, he is on about the new club and I think the first day they let women in the club was on Trinity Sunday 1951 the next was coronation day,I do remember the coronation day in the new club they give us all a teacup with the queen on and a goody bag but Tumtingle will not remember that he was to old for one,from what I remember of the old club it was big house but only had two big bedrooms that was used by the band, can still see it in my mind how to have had a digital camera in them days to show the old Downall Green as it was

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, I may have got some of the information wrong about the Cory Band,Now i am not sure of the name, Will look it up,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, Looks like your right about the Cory Band, Just looked it up on Wikipedia & it does say Wales, I must have mistaken the name, Sorry,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell, The old house was the Village club up to the building of the new one in 51,& if Tumtell calls me owd again i will stop his dole,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Cheers Bentlegs though I was quite happy to accept your wisdom on these matters from the olden days
Uncle Joe I got the nod on the one you knew Thinking about it my sister Elaine and I, during one of our many chats about those days, recalled all the girls in the band in the 60s - early 70s and the fact that almost every avenue on the estate had a least one of them living on them, some like hawthorn had 8 of us in the band, quite amazing really

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Sorry Dougie, I didn't say you were as old as bentlegs, I just said you two were the older ones...

I remember the Coronation Day celebrations....it was so much fun, yes the cup ( wish I still had it) and goody bag,races for prizes, am I right in remembering the weather was lovely... I know all in all it was a Lovely day.....

You're right about the camera, it would be fantastic to see DG as it was... the younger ones have no idea what it was like back then... I remember Rectory road having Coaches ( Saloons, as they were sometimes called) all along the road ready to take all us children on the big ( for us in those days)Village club trip....Great times

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Anybody remember the coaches to blackpool lights from DG?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Weren't they booked through Pies shop.......They used to do Mystery tours as well, usually on a Sunday afternoon / evening....

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
I was thinking more of the coaches that private individuals "got up" but why not include all, club, school, whatever trips.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Yes uncle joe, the oldest on them trips would've been about 22 leave about 6.00pm first stop would be the Bowling Green at Charnock Richards no M6 in them days,a few hours in Blackpool through the lights stopping for chips on the way home and in for 12.00pm no stopping out late in the 50s,it may have changed for you but if you went on some of them trips you know what they was like

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, I think i have just cracked it who you are, Did you play soprano cornet ? You were very good , pity you didn't keep it up,We lived almost back to back but you were only a little girl then, I workrd withyour dad Joe at Parkside,a grand chap,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Close Bentlegs but wrong Susan though I do know who you mean. I played euphonium and lived nearer to the Poplar turning on the opposite side from Susan L..............

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, i cant get nowt right , can i?Give us a clue,

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Jouell-I've been round my sisters to-night and was telling her about this thread, she said my Mam gave her one as a keep sake of her marriage in 1953 as we had three one for each of child,this is a photo of the cup I said was give at the club on coronation day yes I know it's a glass but thats what comes with old age do you remember it

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Awwww Bentlegs don't be so hard on yourself
Clue ....... I have 1 sister & 2 brothers (both in Boys Brigade & also played a lot of football)
Have another guess

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Is one of them in OZ

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Yes Dougie, has lived there for about 37yrs now but loves his visits home

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
No dougie, I didn't remember what it looked like, but do remember we all had one......My Dad was a begger for throwing things out and years ago most people...( Your Mam fortunately not one of them) didn't think of keepsakes.... It's in very good condition for being so old..... Is that your sister ( is it Yvonne?) who has the glass? I always thought she was so pretty.....I don't remember your older sisters, just your Ralph, you, Yvonne and your Kenneth.....

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Suesa-the only reason I ask that way was we met in the Bowling Club and had a few drinks and a chat could have been last time he was over, you must know I know your family from photo's I,ve uploaded except you

No yvonne is no relation Jouell you may have the name wrong, but as you say my younger sister was and still is very pritty as you put it, it's my oldest siter Nora that as the glass she's 82 I am just one of seven children

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Yes dougie, I did have the wrong name... it's Lily isn't it, for some reason I thought both of your older sisters lived away....Anyway, I stand by what I said about Lily.....

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I know over the last 3 i/2 years I've uploaded quite a few photo's for people to look at then deleted them,looking back over the threads I wish that they had been left on so any new comers looking would see what we was talking about in the photo's, will be leaving them on in future so just ask if you wish any deleted this is one of the oldman and his mates about 1954 dosn't look like that now but he's weathered will over the years (could tell a few tales)

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Yes Dougie, I know you know Still trying to convince my brother to get online, once he does he'll never be off
WW It was his last visit that he was at the bowling club

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell, Come on , help me out, a Susan that lived near your friend Pam Wilde,Think it could be Susan Atherton?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Tumtell, 1952, Blackpool,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I never said Pam Wilde was a friend of mine... I still have the scar on my leg from when she threw a stone at me and it stuck in my leg

Try checking suesas' profile ... that should tell you

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi rbilly i remember your grandfather.he was a friend of my father who was one of those who started the old legion .with bert rosbottom and arthur winstanley and a lot more people.we used to go out delivering tickets for the saturday draw when i was a kid.

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi dougie my wife and her brother still have one of those glasses.good memories we had a full set at our house and hessions next door

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Yes and go to watch childrens hour on telly 5 till 6 in the front room 1952 remember

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell, thanks for that, never thought of looking there,Only kidding about Pam Wilde being a friend,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse



I might get me legs smacked for telling you.

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Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
What do you mean Trixie?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Well i said something i should'nt.

If you did'nt see it hardlines.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Cant find owt wrong with your post Trixie,asta been on't pop?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I put on here who suesa was but you may have missed it.
I had to delete it.Sorry.....
i don't drink so it must have bin somethin i ate..

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
I got her name from her blog,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
It's ok Trixie, don't get yourself in a lather about it

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Ok thanks.suesa.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie, Do you remember a family that lived just past your grandads & they had a daughter named Pat, i think she was an only child, both the parents were nurses i think, I think they lived in the houses where you had to go up a few steps,The dad was one of the few to have a car in the 50s. we are racking our brains trying to think of thier name,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

I can't place her,but you've started me of now!!!
Did they live next to Cartwrights?
Somebody across the road had a bubble car.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Would that be the Lowes'? I remember the Dad was a nurse and they had a car and was always keeping it clean. They lived across from us and next door to Margaret Beesleys. I think they moved to Cleveleys or somewhere near there when they retired. They moved to live near their daughter and her family. I'm sure this is who you mean.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I was going to say that suesa would probably know.

I can't remember who lived there only the Smouts while there house in simms road was refurbished.Molly had a fancy for Dickie and used to chase him.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
suesa, Tha'r queen , thats um Lowes, Ta, con go to sleep toneet,

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bentlegs i remember them he had a little renault daulphin.his daughter was a very pretty woman she looked like cilla black but nicer .your pee will remember her .we all fancied her when we were kids.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Hi Bert, yes I remember her looking like Cilla Black. Although they had a car Mr.Lowe used to go to work at Billinge Hospital on his pushbike complete with cycle-clip round his ankles, I always remember that

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
If he had a Renault dauphine, I can understand him cycling to work. They didn't used to be called "Roll-over Renaults" without good reason! Anyway, it was french, so probably wouldn't make it to Billinge without breaking down!

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
If you look on the Album at North Ashton Carnival, Pat Lowe is the one stood up on the left in the nurses uniform. If I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Somebody on the People thread is looking for a Rosemary Morley ...age about 50... used to live on Brocstedes Ave.... Any of you younger ones remember her? if you do you could be a gem and give the person looking for her any info you have....

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
Bentlegs
There name was Littler and the girls name was Pat a blond girl
Ashpad

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
i have been in touch with my freind jouell and the girl used to live in the house my freind lives in know..she as a couple of freinds who were freinds of her's and she is going to ring them to see if they have an adress for her..

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
I stand corrected Ashpad ..... as soon as I saw the name Littler I realised that that was their name

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Shows how you can get it wrong, i was convinced it was Lowe but now Littler has come up it makes sence.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Wasn't there a Pat Lowe that used to live on Poplar Ave.?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thanks rose..I knew someone would be able to help

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Just been looking through old photo's, I think these two should have a place on the Downall Green thread as some my not have seen them,the girls will be 40 years older today


Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
And don't I feel it .... older I mean

B&W photo was taken in 1967, and the colour one was taken about 1983

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
I stand corrected, it is Pat Littler on the North Ashton carnival photo [not Pat Lowe].

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Anyone remember Cromptons Medal competition in the 50s? Didn't the North Ashton team win it? not sure

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
No I don't remember it What was the competition?

Posted by: frankwalford (1096)   Report abuse
Hi Bentlegs I remember Crompton's sports day on Warrington Rd because I came second in the 100 yds open and won a cruet.That would be about 1952-3

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
This was a football competition,local areas formed teams, most of the men i knew whoplayed have gone, sure some one will come up with the answer,

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
on the coloured photo the front row third from the left is my cousin Deborah Philips her mum is Ann Turner out of cedar grove married Ray Phillips from Billinge and the girl who you can just see her head at the back left looks like Kathryn Roberts from Birch Grove ..could be wrong ..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
rbilly,i think the girl on back left is tracy duffy from hawthorn ave.

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bambam nice to have you back not seen or heard from you .have asked dave when i see him not seen mike for ages.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, been busy helping my daughter run the pub on frog lane, mike is doing alright i will see him tonight at st helens buffs.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse



Is there anybody out there.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Think evertbody has flit Trixie.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I think your right bentlegs..
Or they have gone on holiday.

Is it wakes week?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
See if we can get it moving Trixie,

TONKER TO VISIT DOWNALLGREEN, Duggie will be taking photos,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I tried a few weeks ago to get it moving again, after a few posts it went under....Good luck you two and a couple of for tonker in case he makes it to Downall Green..

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
is that near ashton in maker feild or up holland jouel ,,better ask our mate TONKS ..just seen him going past me on his trycicle best ger dougi quick as he is moving that fast you can not see his little legs for dust .....how do tonker hope thar awreet

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Well i tried educating tonker some time ago on where the border used to be,but i don't know if he took it all on board.

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
if tonkers on his way to downall green .he will be in disguise.or sneaking through fields.if i see him passing ours i will put the alert out.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Put thi foot out instead Bert, Tell him the wavy mon lives in Downallgreen, it will keep him away.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
I went up Leylandgreen Rd today & saw they (Who) have knocked down the old Farm house, i was lead to believe that it was grade two listed , Most likley be a brand new spanking house there in a couple of months. Back handers come to mind,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Do you mean the cottage at the top of L G rd, on the right hand side as you turn to go to Windy Arbour?

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
it wuz brunt deawn

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
On purpose, or accidentaly on purpose???

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
do they know whobrunt it rpee?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell, Yes thats the one,

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
it happened about a month since on a friday night, think it was harum scarums full of pop

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
it needed something doing with it its been a eye sore for a long time.its like us all on here got old .

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi peemac how can thy call people harum scarums with some of are lot what we mated with.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
bert... if it was a listed building, is it allowed to be burned down... accidently on purpose... which is how a lot of listed buildings end up, so as the land can be built on....fishy.....

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi jouell it was in such a bad state something needed to be done.i know it should not be burned down but there was nothing being done to it.and it drags the usual junkies in .it is a shame.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Hi Bert, I knew people who tried time and time again over the years, to buy that cottage and to restore it... Whoever owned it would not sell it, for whatever, whatever, whatever and over time, they simply gave up on buying it........

I know it had fallen into such a state of disrepair, but someone was the reason for that happening, and probably it being burned down....Ulterior motives... Seven Stars and many other buildings gone the same way.. Very sad..

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
We'll see who ends up with it eh what

By next year a new house will appear.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi folks,im sorry i aint been on for a while had problems in last few months, hope i aint missed owt,so sorry to hear about the cottage on leyland green i worked and played there as a youngster.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Tumtingle, i went over't Fifties today, first time in forty years,not chaged mutch apart from the kids park,

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
cottage burns down top of Lg roadelectric board to install new cable ,Winstanley/Leyland green road next week.Watch this space for planning permission

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
That's what it was all about from the beginning.... where there's a will there's a way!!!

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Iv'e been told by a friend that Kieth Fox is very ill, anyone know how he is?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Just heard tonight, that although he is still in ICU and very poorly, he is doing better.......Get Well Soon Keith xx

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
jouell who was loooking for Rosemary Morley ..i have a number and adress think it may be the one not sure ..?

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Here's the post rbilly ........... hope it's the right one

link

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Keith Fox suffered a setback today..... I ask all ex DGreeners to say a prayer for Keith, so he can get well soon... Thanks!!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
bump...Prayers for Keith..

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Are there no Ex DGreeners come on here anymore...I am asking for prayers for Keith Fox an ex DGreener... he is very poorly...

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
I've been keeping Keith in my prayers Jouell. Hope he makes a good recovery very soon.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
God bless keith, please make a quick recovery my family wishes you the best of health.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thank you Sue and bambam.... Keith is very poorly, don't want to go into details, but please keep praying for him and I will update as I get information.......Thanks again....

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Sorry juell but i can't think who he is at all.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie, he used to live on Billinge Rd just below Harry Lowe the Headmaster at Rectory,

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Sorry to hear about Keith hope everything goes well for him

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Haven't had any feedback today, so I'm taking it as " No news is Good news"...

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks jouell for the update, me and family are still praying.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Agree with you Jan about the 'No News' Keeping Keith in my prayers. As bambam says, thanks for keeping us posted.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Thanks bentlegs, i remember him now.

I think his mum was Nellie,Dawsons live there now if i remember rightly.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
No feedback as yet, although I don't usually hear anything until after the evening visits.... But if I don't hear anything today, I will take as I said yesterday, 'No news is Good news'...
If that's the case, it will be the first time in over two weeks that 2 days have gone by without being told anything....

The Prayers make a difference, Thank You..

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
we will be praying for kieth.did not know not been on for awhile.remember him well good luck and keep fighting

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Another day without any news... ( I have to wait to hear from England )..I was hearing everyday when the news was really bad, but this is the 3rd day in a row without any news... so I am thinking, things have taken a turn for the better......how wonderful would that be..Please keep the Prayers coming, they do help.....

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I was told today that Keith, after 3 weeks, has been moved out of ICU into a small side ward.... He still is very poorly, but hopefully on the way to recovery... I will continue to let you know his progress as soon as I hear it...

Please continue with your Prayers.......

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
The news on Keith's progress seems to be moving in the right direction Jouell..... although our prayers must continue until he is well.
Thank you for keeping us updated

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
It does seem that way Susan, Thank God!!! It's not my place to put on here what his problems were, but he has been very very poorly... still is, but hopefully the worst is behind him and he is now on the way to recovery..

He isn't out of the woods yet, so please continue with your prayers.......I will keep you posted as soon as I hear anything..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks jouell, hope he's on the mend we are all still praying for him.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Not heard anything today and I am leaving for Tennessee in the morning... going to a wedding on Sat, will be back on Tues, so I won't be posting until I get back......Please continue with the prayers....

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks jouell, enjoy your break our thoughts and prayers will be with keith and his family.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
The latest on Keith is... he is now in a regular ward and if he continues to improve, he may go home in a week or two......

He has been in for 4/5 weeks, been a long time, but the future looks a lot brighter than it did a couple of weeks ago... Thank God....and Thanks for all your prayers, they really help....

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Hi Jouell,hope you had a good time.

Margaret rang me the other night i mentioned you to her,she said your Brother rang her from france last week.
She's got hospital appt on Tues but she seems ok about it nothing to worry about just a check up.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Great news Jouell, so pleased Keith is continuing to improve. Thanks for keeping us updated, Hope your trip to Tennessee went well.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks jouell, nice to hear that news we all wish him well and pray that he will soon be back home with his family.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Had a good time in TN.... it is the 12 hour drive up and 12 hour drive back that spoils it, I hate that part with a passion...

Yes Trixie, my brother does keep in touch with Margaret, pleased to hear she is doing ok... hope the worst is behind her now.....

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, do you ever see earthworm these days we could do with you both paying us a visit to catch up on the good old times,all the lads meet up at bryn labour 12 noon every sun.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
A bit of a set back in Keiths recovery, more problems, he won't be going home as soon as was first thought...

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
oh dear, we will still keep praying for him jouell.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thanks bambam..

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Continuing prayers for Keith. Hope this is just a minor setback for him.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thanks suesa, as you say, hopefully a minor setback...

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
I have a faint memory that someone on here mentioned that the houses on the estate were of 3 or 4 basic designs with variations on them so that no two houses were the same. Can someone confirm this, or give more details?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Keith is back home... HOORAY..... He is home to rest and gain strength and at some point in time, go back to the hospital for more surgeries.... But praying to God the worst is now behind him....Thank you for your prayers and support...

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse

Uncle joe Some houses had rounded porches or exagon or square or none.Houses had built in kitchens with a seperate wash house others had wash houses built into the back of the house.Staircases went straight up or had a landing part way up, in our house the stairs curved part way.Some houses had bay windows others straight windows.These where some of the differences which made every house differentfrom the next

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Ashton council received an award for the Downall green estate, That was from Jack Burrows a counciler at Ashton,

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
That's the best of news Jouell So pleased for Keith and his family

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Just drove round the dam corner & there is a notice up that the land is for sale,coulnt stop so i dont know if it's the whole of the Blubell Wood or just the land at the front, I dont know what anyone could do to develope the woods,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Bentlegs, do you know anything else about the award? What was it exactly?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, I dont know exactly what the award was, maybe a certificate to hang on the wall, it's a long time since Jack told me about it but people from all over the country came to look, If you see Jack ask him about it but not sure if he is knocking about atthe moment,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, I dont know exactly what the award was, maybe a certificate to hang on the wall, it's a long time since Jack told me about it but people from all over the country came to look, If you see Jack ask him about it but not sure if he is knocking about atthe moment,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, I dont know exactly what the award was, maybe a certificate to hang on the wall, it's a long time since Jack told me about it but people from all over the country came to look, If you see Jack ask him about it but not sure if he is knocking about atthe moment,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Bentlegs, I live outside the UK nowadays.

One thing that this has made me think about is the history of the village. for example, what was it like before the estate was built. Does anyone know?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, I remember it as pasture, Apart from what was there before the estate , Nothing else,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Bentlegs,do you know what year they started building the estate.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I think it would be around 1940-1944 when they first started.

I may be wrong....

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
I would think that it was a bit later. My Mum and Dad moved in during 1946, and if I remember, they said that the estate was still being built.

Does anyone know when the houses along Rectory Road were built, as well as the church?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
We moved in our house in 48 and I seem to remember both ashpad and bentlegs saying Leyland Green rd was the last to be built, with our house being the last..

The older ones will know

I've just had a quick search.. ( family wants their breakfast )I saw Holy Trinity started in 1838...

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Bambam, I can only guess that the estate was started 1946 , my memory is not what it used to be,

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
The estate was started just before the end of the war

These are for Uncle Joe taken from my walk around the estate
Your house

My house

The grove

Parkinsons house

Looking up to the island

The island looking from the Blue Bell

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Great shots Dougie.as usual nobody about.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Thanks trixie but their only snaps taken on one of my walks before going to the church yard, just uploaded them few as he may not have seen his house for years

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Them are great pics dougie, brings back good memories i lived next door to what you call parkinsons when i first got married, think it was 17 poplar.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Thanks for the pictures, Dougie. you are correct, I've not seen the house for years, probably the early 70's.

Bambam, when did you live at no. 17?

When I lived there, I remember some kind of biggish electric box in the middle of the island, and not trees on it. They were on the paths, making the whole place look darker than it does in the photo.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi uncle joe, i remember the trees one on each corner on the path as you say, we used climb them as kids also remember the big green box in middle of island, i moved into 17 poplar in 1980 was there till 85 before moving to wigan, but i grew up in elm ave ,i have fond memories of the old place.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
uncle joe, also remember garages at bottom of birch grove we would climb and jump over them as kids

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
good photos dougie it does notlook the same without the big green box on the island in front of our old house.and gas lamps and the trees have gone.many good memories.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
no big slides for the kids to play on in winter now but you must admit it looks bitter

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Going back to when the houses were built I have the tenancy agreement given to my Grandad when he took over his house in Elm Ave. It is dated 2 Nov 1946 - and called the Rectory Road Estate. My Mum tells me that they were the first family to live in this property and that building of other properties was still going on.
By the way the rent was 16 shilling a week - and that included 5/6d water rates

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I remember the house we moved into on elm ave,i would only be 5yrs old at the time but the family previous were the first tenants.

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
the tennants before you bamam were savages. kens family out of b l c.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert ,yes i know that pal i see ken every sun how ya doin.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Bert do you remember Hendley family, some from birch grove and there was one facing us in elm ave.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
I remember Eric Hendly, second house on Birch Grove,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
There was a beryl his sister,i think there was a couple more but no too sure.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Don't know about Eric I do know Roy and Frank have passed away and I believe john is not to good, don't know about the girls

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Have not seen john for years, i remember beryl the nurse don't think she ever married, louis the other sister married bob birkett and still lives on corner of birch grove.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Was Eric Hendly any relation to the ones that lived in Cedar Grove for a time?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Not to sure on that one uncle joe, dougie or bentlegs will problably know.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I remember eric had a son and daughter when they lived in elm ave, pauline and frank.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Seen today a sign up to sell part of Bluebell Wood, thought this was common land and didn't belong to anyone in particular, maybe it's the farmer that owns it. Just sad another piece of special places disappearing ........

link

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi suesa, bentlegs mentioned this on an earlier thread but the old place is not what it used to be, i went up a couple of months ago and could'nt walk through it was a swamp and all overgrown, that goes to tell you that the kids of today do not venture there like we did i spent all of me childood in bluebell wood and the dell.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Going off that link I would say it' on the Spindle Hillock side of the brook across from the green running up to the cross roads,but I've not seen anything I'll have a look next time we pass

PS. suesa where did you see the sign and did it say the woods

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Hi bambam I know what your saying about todays kids, too busy on their game stations, didn't see the earlier thread from bentlegs

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I was led to believe the land that's up for sale belonged to the farmer {jack lyon} all the fields surrounding run right up to bluebell wood, perhaps dougie or bentlegs can help me on this one.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Hi Dougie, the sign was just where the St.Helens one is and says 'Woodland for Sale' so no indication in that if it's for housing developement or not.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
If not the side I've said could it not be this part of the old pen after the bridge, it would make the some shape if turned as the link

look on the left of the photo

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
I see what you mean Dougie but the sign was the other side of the bridge

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
suesa, it couldn't be for building houses on for 12,000

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Dougie could it be the side of the detached houses near to the old s&s.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
That's what I thought, so what could it be used for ....?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
bambam I don't think theirs any there now

suesa, same thing it was used for before a Pen or an allotment

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Ah well time will tell I suppose. Let us know if you find anything out Dougie please.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi dougie, there is land at side of detached houses as you leave spindle hillock from low bank rd end on right hand side,the spare land stretches right round to the old dam wall, there is a big green grass verge in front of it just thought it might have been that.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
That's the land I first posted about should have said across from the big green and it runs to the Dam Bridge instead of putting the cross roads,

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
The land on the left as you go into Spindle Hillock houses can not be built on it some thing to do with the Green,somebody wanted to build on it but was refused.Mind you though they are always changing the rules.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I believe the houses facing green was at first refused planning permission but they got there in the end.

Posted by: chickdrum (269) Report abuse
hello bam bam its long time no see !!

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hello stey, hope your'e keeping ok pal....and a watchful eye on our frank.

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
The land at the Dam Corner (Bluebell Wood)it is both sides of the brook that is for sale.The wood near the green and the wood were Old Bill Ryder had his pen.In total there is 1 and a half acres.The common land is the grass verge and the pen and the woodland is greenbelt.The land for sale belonged to Esther Ferns from Spinndle Hillock and was sold when she died about 12years ago.And was bought by Spratty from Spinndle Hillock.Beware we have been told Travelers have been taking an interest in it,think all Downall greeners should get together and buy it.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Long time no talk woodie and I don't like what's just been said, even though I don't live there anymore..... D Greeners, seems you all need to get your heads together and try to do something about this.....

Apart from what you've just said woodie, hope you and fam are all well..

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Woodie's right about the people that live in the houses around the Dam Corner they should jump at the chance of buying 1/12 of the land for 1000 to safeguard it's future no matter how is thinking of buying it, I know I would

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
Yeah all good thanks Jouell. I no its not good if another piece of land is lost. Nothing can be done from the green side due to it being common land because there can be no vehichle access over it. But its the otherside were there ther could be a problem just have to hope with it being in greenbelt that nothing can be done.
Anyway Happy Birthday for later in the month, nice to hear from you.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
woodie where did you live on d-green.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Good to hear you are all well woodie and Thanks for the B/day wishes...

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Couldn't see the for sale sign on the Dam corner today,Has some one ripped it down, (i hope),

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
you are right bentlegs, i lived facing dam corner in early 80s went up there today and could not see no sign, would love to know what's going on though.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi folks, anyone heard out about bluebell wood.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Trixie are ya out there,not heard from lanky for a while hope she's ok.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
She's really hooked on Facebook games.

How many she's got goin i don't know.but heavy into the Farm one.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
ok thanks trixie, thats fine as long as she's ok.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I think your Tina is a bit the same....

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
yes your'e problably right trixie my mrs is same as well, they all seemed to be hooked.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Not me.I did a bit in the Cafe.But it gets so you can't leave the house or go to bed!!!Drove me mad.Marg kept trying to get me back but nooooooooooooo fear.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
yes trixie,i suppose its very easily to get hooked.

Posted by: erwick (126) Report abuse
A message to Susan Atkins,
I have a great photo of a couple of Downall Greeners taken on holiday in Ibiza in October with a certain young lady you will recognise.
Unfortunately I'm unable to upload a "recent" photo, so could you please contact me and I will send you the photo.
Regards,
Eric

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Thanks for that Eric, I have emailed you

It was Spain not Ibiza

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Bert,can you help me to locate all the old guys, earthworm peg leg pete and all other old buffs,we really need your help.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Posted by: jouell on another thread about Funeral costs
I've told my husband and daughter... no Wake or Funeral, ( I have no family here, apart from my husband, daughter and grandson )... It's stupid to spend untold amounts of money on a funeral, instead, just have me cremated, then use the money to fly over to England, scatter my ashes and then they can have a holiday....simple!!

jouell, tell him before he brings them let the people on the Downall Green thread know the date, time, and the place, to meet-up, one of us will walk him round to the places we think you would want some of your ashes scattered, I asure you if I was walking him round you would finish up all over Downall Green don't think I need to name them


Replied: 16th Dec 2011 at 21:12

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I don't know what to say to that dougie...first off I thought 'AWWWW' how nice of him to think of that... Then I thought it almost sounded as if I wasn't long of this earth,, as much as sometimes life is Hell on Earth, I do want to be around for a good while yet..Then I had a good laugh at it, but will say again what a very thoughtful bloke you are.. I will have to show this to my husband when he gets home... Thank You Dougie

By the way Dougie, do you know David Molyneux, he goes to G H bowling club, he's a cousin of mine... just wondered...




Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
jouell, you know it was all but as you say other people will not understand why I uploaded it here sorry for any upset its me that's my last legs

so I'll tell them their was a thread running on general about Funeral costs they was coming up with all sorts of thing as they do, I just uploaded her post to the Downall Green thread for you all to see her sense of hummer,

She didn't mention Downall Green and I knew it was a post

Don't know a David Molyneux only a Keith Molyneux but still may know him by his first name

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I mentioned you to him dougie, he said he wasn't sure, he said he'd find out next time he's in the club..

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
dougie you know david molyneux his wife jean had her 70th birthday in club on sun27th nov ,they sit with her sister lynne and bernard her hubby.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Thanks yes was in the club that night I do know David but only by his first name,it's the same with allot these days I don't mix as much as I use to

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thank you Peter, yes, Jean did just have a 70th b/day celebration at the club, David had his B/day celebration a couple of months ago.....Small world

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
Joell you say your Daves cousin,My wife Yvonne is Jeans cousin.Even a smaller world

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
How funny is that Peter.... talk about the six degrees of separation...


Dougie.. David and Jean will be at the club tonight...

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Just wanted to wish a
'Merry Christmas'
and
'Happy New Year',
To All my DG friends !!

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Merry Christmas & Happy New year to you & all DGs

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
We're still your friends Janet - not ex ones (Know what you mean)
My best wishes for Christmas and New Year go to all DownallGreeners near and far

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Merry christmas and happy new year to everyone on this thread, thank you for all info provided this year i have really enjoyed your contributions its helped me with knowledge of the old estate and its occupants.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
You were right Sue, I worded it wrong, but have now put to right

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse

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Posted by: spectre (619) Report abuse
I always said you were loaded Dougie!

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Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
How are you feeling dougie? hope it's better than a couple of days ago...

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Fine thanks for asking well it's not as bad by a long way as it was,

it looks like this Downall Green thread as had its day

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
I hope that you are wrong there, Dougie.

It would be nice to see some of the current DG residents posting on this thread.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Good to hear dougie, hope you are back to normal really soon...

I've thought the same thing dougie, it's such a shame.. It was great for a long time, but nothing happening anymore, apart from chit chat like this..

I know DG wasn't /isn't a big place, but there has to be more of the older people from DG with computers who could make a contribution, than the same small group that's always been on...

As for current residents, yes they could keep us ex DGs informed of what's going on in the village, but will they? Is there anything going on in the village that's worth talking about, do they know of this thread and do they care?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Where is Trixie?, i thought she would have a comment on DG,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
The thought did occur to me that although we as older residents had more of an affinity to Wigan, perhaps newer ones think differently since the borders were changed. could it be that they post somewhere else? A Merseyside bord perhaps?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
NEVER uncle joe,no not Merseyside, Still dont believe DG is in Mersyside,Rather be on a Plat Waz board,

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
As far as I'm concerned, D.G. is and always will be part of Ashton in Mak. near Wigan.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
bentlegs... I know what you mean though, same with you uncle joe... When the infiltration of Liverpudlians and St Heleners came about, it changed the dynamics of the whole area... DG, Simms Rd, Garswood, Bryn and Ashton...Nothing has been the same since then.. I'm not saying Liverpudlians are bad, they just have a different way of doing things and since they outnumbered the locals after a while, things got done their way.. At least that's how I see it....pretty sure I've stirred something up with this post...

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Janet, Expect a reply from Tonker but no need to believe in it,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
bentlegs, I know...but, things did change after they all moved in, that and the Holy Trinity Rector, from what's been said on here, he's done a very good job of changing things too and not for the better.....

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Happy New Year to ALL my DG friends... may 2012 be good to you all..

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
Same here Janet, all my very best wishes for 2012
Happy New Year one and all

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
Happy new year to all Downall greeners past and present

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Happy new year to you all...
I have been away but i have lived at both sides of the boundery but i still think it NEVER should have been split up.I think they just got a felt tip pen and made a squigly line across.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Hi Trixie Happy new year, I've just posted this on another thread for Tonker I know I've no chance of winning against him but I think most would agree with me from Downall Green

O.K. Seneley Green was always there we know that Park colliery on Liverpool road had a mine there in the 50s it was always know as the Seneley Green mine,

as far as I know the sign Seneley green was only placed at Downall green after the mistake with the brook it should have been rectified to leave Downall green,Garswood, and Simms Road, in Greater Manchester not move them to Merseyside against their wishes

Ask any of them but they may have change now they may like to be known now as a St-Helener or a Liverpooler

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Most people who do live in DG now are from St Helens or Liverpool..Not many locals around anymore...

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
I don't think there is Jouell.

I have relatives still there and know a few more thats all though.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I have a cousin lives on Hawthorne Ave, lived there for 40yrs or so, I heard Mrs Adamson, her son Billy, Mrs Middlehurst and Michael still live there, Barbara Painter, a few more, but as the older ones pass away, people from other places move in...There goes the neighbourhood

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Dougie/bentlegs i may have asked this in earlier thread,do you know when bungalows were built on birch grove.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
1960's????Maybe.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
I would agree with Trixie,Unless Tonker sees this & he will tell us we are wrong,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I dont remember them being there when we moved, which was in 1969. Early 70's, perhaps?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi uncle joe, there is a photo of me 5yrs old on wiganworld it was 1965 and the bungalows are in background, so i imagine it was early 60s when they were built.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Bambam, I'm amazed. The only buildings I remember on Birch Grove were the garages at the Poplar Avenue end.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Yes Bambam, thats sounds about right.
uncle joe.them Garages where still up when i last went up there.Now another question,are they still standing or not?if not when did they come/fall down?

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Trixie, theres houses all the way along that side of Birch Grove now. I've no idea when they were built, though.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I will have to go and ride round there sometime.
I never have the time when i'm down there.
And a visit to Kevin's.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Trixie ,uncle joe, the garages have been well gone for years, all the spare land that was on birch grove has now been developed, there are houses both sides of birch grove from top to bottom.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

I also think i read somewhere that there was a Doctors Surgery at the bottom of Birch Grove.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
It's on Billinge rd Trixie, just higher up than Birch Grove,

If anyone knows Jack Marsh he may know when the bungalows were built, i think his mother was one of the first to go into one,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
thanks bentlegs, i know jack well aint seen him in years but frank walford sees him on a regular basis at bryn club, i see frank every sun at club so i will ask him.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
The Wooden hut next to the blue Bell,does anyone know if it is still used? Looks like it's ready to fall down,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for info bentlegs, i aint been up for a while but i do remember the old wooden hut, i think nurse stokes band used to practice there, and i attended lots of activites at the place in late 60s early 70s.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Does anyone know the correct name for the brook that runs through DG, where it flows, and into which river?

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
Starts of from the overflow from reservoir top of leyland green rd called millingford brook at DG

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


The Hut that was the Playschool.Was payed for by the villagers of Downall Green when it was first built.
Before it was a playschool i went to the Ladies Class in there and as a representative of the Class i went to a Church meeting to discuss whether to allow it to be used for a playschool as most of them where older they were'nt over keen for it but i put a good word forword and it was passed.So i'm not sure who owns it now.probably thats why it's falling down.nobody alive to see to it.

Posted by: spectre (619) Report abuse
isn't it called millingford brook?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Spot on Spectre.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Trixie nothing wrong with the place last time I looked

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Is there another shed that he means?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
good question uncle joe, as kids we played along that brook as far as we could, starting at back of graveyard on booths brow we called it the dell ,then past rear of rectory school millingfords and down the tunnel into what we called bluebell wood, we followed the brook from there under railway at back of spindle hillock and then to low bank rd where it went under motorway into skitters, would love to find name of brook spent all my childhood chasing it.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Are you still chasing it bambam.

Did it go under them houses off Low Bank Road that got flooded once?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

What was that went between Cansfield + Grammar schools?

Posted by: bluesman (246) Report abuse
Trixie,
I think it was called "Jack" brook.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Thanks.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie, no can't chase anymore to old now? i sometimes play rugby with grandkids and need gas an air after 20 mins,the brook went under low bank so i don't think it would have affected any property.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
The Millingford brook starts on the hill where the Crows nest used to be before being outcropped, & it flows to the river Glaze in Glazbury,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
According to wiki (if its to be believed!) the correct name for the River Glaze is Glaze Brook. Its tributaries are listed. One of them is called Nan Holes Brook and is decribed as "flowing eastwards from Ashton-in-Makerfield."

Could it be so that Millingford Brook is just a local name, and not the correct one?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


When you think about it,it must be because Millingfords is just happens to run at the back of it for a short way..
Well done uncle Joe.

Posted by: janet gisbon (28) Report abuse
hI

In the 1970s we had a video library in Dowanll Green Road opposite the off licence/ grocery shop and near the hairdressers owend by Marie and Joe any one remember it ?

Posted by: kenee (1956) Report abuse
On old maps the brook through Skitters and Ashton towards Golborne is marked as Millingford Brook. It crosses Bryn Street (under the bridge) at the corner of Millingford Grove.

Posted by: bluesman (246) Report abuse
Millingford brook carries on through Ashton and on to Golborne.It goes past what used to be Harbens/Tattons/Intex where it was still known as Millingford Brook when I worked at Intex.It then carries on to the lake in Newton park.From there it is hard to see where it goes because it is on the edge of two maps.It appears to go into Sankey Brook which then runs into the Mersey.
What puzzles me is how does it gets across the motorway around Lowbank road area.When I went to the Central school we used to run Crosscountry races down Lowbank road turn left into the Skitters.Where Millingford brook ran under the path we turned right and ran alongside of the brook and then came back on to Lowbank road.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bluesman,i remember the brook going under road in jack lyons field just before low bank rd, it came out at side of skitters bridge just after motorway.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi janet, i lived opposite marie an joes shop and knew them and their daughter well, is it not rectory rd you are thinking of downallgreen rd was on the other side.

Posted by: janet gisbon (28) Report abuse
Hi bambam yes you are right it was Rectory Road, did you ever go in our shop ?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi janet,yes i did go in shop i remember it well, did you know joe passed away.

Posted by: janet gisbon (28) Report abuse
Hi bambam no I didnt Joe had died when was that does Marie still live there I remember one night we all went to Clowns Bar n Wign what a night that was

Good times when we had the video library, met some nice folk

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi janet, they have not lived there for a good number of years, can't remember where they moved to i will have to ask my mother when she get's back from holiday in march,joe sadly passed away last year, also remember davinia from clowns bar i worked for him on a few venues in wigan the last one was in king st west, i do believe he his appearing now at the venue on sun night which is the old victoria hotel on wallgate.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Re: Millingford Brook, read this ...... Posted by: jackdog (353) - 1st May 2009 at 18:29

Like 'bluesman' says, Millingford Brook goes through Haydock Park, forms Dean Dam, then Newton Lake and joins the Sankey Brook behind the Fiddle in t'Bag at Burtonwood.


And Dougie, Seneley Green Parish is, and always has been, sat on the Mersey Plane.
So, doesn't it follow that it's rightly in 'Merseyside'?


PS: The Environment Agency call it Millingfod (Newton) Brook!

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Tonker, according to Wiki, there is a Nan Holes Brook that flows "eastwards from Ashton-in-Makerfield into Pennington Flash." Do you know where that is?

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Don't believe what you read on Wikipedia, MintBallsJoe, half of it's rubbish. If Jackdog wanted to, he could change Wikipedia to say it's called 'Market Brook', and all the World would believe it!

PS: There's loads of brooks flowing out of Ashton in Makerfield. Maybe that is the one at the bottom of the hill at Stubshaw Cross?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie, Millingford Engieering was named after the brook because it ran beside it,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Tonker: I dont believe half of what is written on wiki. according to the map on this link...
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/communicate/mb_message.php?opt=f2&msd=415381&offset=&subject=Can%20someone%20tell%20me....

...Nan Holes Brook starts somewher near the Harrow on Edge Green Road.

Getting back on topic, has Millingfords Brooks name anything to do with the mill that was once on the dam corner? And are there any photos of the mill anywhere?

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Thanks bentlegs.

Posted by: kenee (1956) Report abuse

Yes, Nan Holes Brook appears to originate opposite the Harrow. The brook at the bottom of Subshie hill is marked as Coffin Lane Brook, there must have been a lane there at one time. Both brooks join Hey (Aye, Glaze) Brook on the way to Pennington. Hey Brook is the main watercourse originating in the Aspull area, Stubshie Hill being the watershed for Millingford Brook.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

I am sooooo fed up this week with this awful weather.
I can't remember when it affected me so bad.

Anybody else out there feel the same,or is it just me!!!!
Sorry i just felt like a moan today.i am not normally like this..

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
You would leave Downallgreen, What do you expect? LOL:

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Ye but we did not have snow last week..
I think i read somewhere that February is the most depressing month.
It's been one of those weeks lots of problems.

Must get out today and shake it off.







Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie,Send a few wavy men to tonker,that will calm thi down,

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
Stubbshie hill brook is that the one which joined millingford brook at the end of Princess rd. there was a path that ran beside it to Stupshie past Rigbys farm and stuppshie recs football ground dont know if its still there with all the new houses being built

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I remember brook running down old rd at back of police station then down side of barclays bank in town centre, it then ran under the road don't know where it appeared or joined stubbshie brook after that.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
bambam, that is the Milingford brook that runs through Downall Green & the Skitters Wood +Bluebell Wood.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
bambam, that is the Milingford brook that runs through Downall Green & the Skitters Wood +Bluebell Wood.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks bentlegs, after all the posts we are still no closer to whom ever called it millingford brook, as you say it starts where the old crows nest was and a company and a street were named after it, so there must be a reason for the name where the brook starts.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Happy valentines day to all d-greeners and ex d-greeners, hope you all got loads of cards flowers an smellies.

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
The thing that I have been wondering is could its name have something to do with the mill?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thats interesting joe, where was the mill.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Thanks bambam.. hope your day was good....

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
bambam, my mothers aunt owned the corn mill near the Dam, thier name was Crank,My mother told me it closed before 1910.Lots of the old Downallgreen families are related to them, If you know Tony Rotherham i think he has quite a lot of information about the Mill,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Bentlegs, do you know if any photos of the cornmill exist? I'd like to see how it looked.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Uncle joe, not that i know of,i would like to see some,

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Said that I would take this photo next time I was passing well here it is,

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Looks a bit smarter than when i last saw it tumtingle.Has it had a paint job?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Looks like it's got a new roof too.. looks good...What is the building in back of it.... are there houses back there now?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Tumtell, just shows how long its been since walked round Downall Green

jouell, you was talking to me in it it's part of the new school

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Dougie, am I correct in thinking thats the village hall? It doesn't look the way that I remember it in the least!

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Dougie.... I didn't realise it went that far in back of the Blue Bell, plus it was dark when I got there, so I couldn't see anything.. ( well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it )

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Your getting old uncle joe that's why , you've been away from Downall Green for along time their lots of changes that people living her take for granted

jouell,was talking to David in the bowling club he came up to me laughing and just Dougie I'm David Molyneux so I asked him do you know my second name

This is for you both, do you remember the oak tree on the school field that was where the school is now on the photo

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


I think it's had an extension?I did'nt recognise it.

It looks ok to me.

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I would just like to upload this photo that was taken by a WW member (Praters Bro) on a visit to Kevin's place with his friends the Chonk-in-feckle, ( Chonkinfeckle )

The second is the framed photo that I asked Peter could I copy to give to Kevin so its a big thank you to Peter off Kevin
Click the photo


Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Finally dougie... I knew you and David had to know each other... I had told him your last name, did he remember ?.

He was like my big brother, I was born and lived at his house in Perry Brook, with him, his older brother and parents until I was 4 yrs old.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Great photos Dougie.

I must make time and go this year...

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Dougie, I remember that there were a few trees there, but none in particular.

What I do remember is an incident involving them and the vicar somewhere around 1960 or '61. To put an exact date on it, the vicar involved died exactly one year after the incident.

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
When the Slater (clothes retailers)family lived on Leyland Green Rd can anyone remember what word/s where set out with daffodils/iris bulbs on their lawns?

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I remember in particular a big Chestnut tree, but it was closer to the driveway/pathway in back of the school, leading down to the Dell..I remember lots of daffodills that used to grow on the Rectory side of the drive/path... It was beautiful back there in my younger days.....

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
peter I don't even remember flowers, never mind what they spelled out .

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
A good friend from Coronation Street R.I.P.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Had he always lived in Brocsteds Dougie?

God Bless him, may he R.I.P.....

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Well his wife and her Mam and Dad lived next door but one from us in Coronation Street, he came to live with them in the late 40s when they got married so after 60 years I would have to say yes,

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Dougie, is that Peters dad?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Yes it is, was talking to Peter at the funeral he looks just like his Dad now he's getting older seems to have made into a nice chap,
have you as I only remember you as a little lad from across the road

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Dougie, I'm now a big lad from across the road!

If you see Peter, say hello from me, he'll know who I am.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Dougie, what was it about , you asking about the old Oak tree and what was the 'Incident' about the trees that Uncle Joe mentioned and Peter, no I don't know what the flowers in Slater's garden spelled out.... Could I have the answers to the above questions please

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Jouell, the incident that I referred to was the fact that there were a group of 14-15 year old playing near the trees Dougie mentioned, and the then vicar attacked one of them. This caused the lad in question to receive medical attention. It was nicely swept under the carpet.

I cant remember the name of the vicar at the time, but it was the one that died somewhere around 1960 (give or take a couple of years).

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Was it Rector Hall?He was a very nice man.Well liked.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Uncle Joe I don't remember anything about that, fancy, I can't imagine a 'Man of the Cloth', doing something like that.... That said, for Hundreds of years Churches have covered up all kinds of stuff... I'll have to ask Kenneth and Roy if they remember anything...I hope the boy in question wasn't too badly hurt... Thanks for the info....

Now I'm waiting on Dougie and Peter for their answers....

Trixie, if it was Rector Hall and I say, if it was, as I don't know, he coudn't have been as nice as everyone thought... he is the only Rector I remember...

Posted by: uncle joe (616) Report abuse
Trixie: You will know the lad in question he was "a big lad in short trousers." The Rector was lucky that he didnt strike back, imho....

As you say, Jouell, nice men dont hit children. Give hm his due, he did apologise later, but perhaps that was false, and donesimply to stop further action being taken.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Yes i know which "Big Lad" you mean.
Maybe i just went with the flow thinking he was a nice Man,Or to young to know any different...He used to frequent the Blue Bell.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie, it's said that Rector Hall never bought a drink but went home three parts canned every night,

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
jouell I dont know what was spelt out on the lawn but thought some of our ex-Dgs may of remembered

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I thought you knew the answer peter...I was talking to David Molyneux this morning.... just what was it you were telling him I said ... telling little stories I think ...

Okay, bentlegs, you lived on LGR.. do you know what the flowers spelled out in Slaters front garden?

Posted by: PeterP (6105) Report abuse
Sorry jouell not even mentioned you to David.Keep meaning to but when I see him with Jean always get talking about my mother-in-law,Jeans auntie

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Sorry peter, maybe David was pulling my leg, he was saying someone on WW was telling him stories about me.. I thought it must be you... maybe it was Dougie...

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
bentlegs.I know the Rector after him always attended school fete's etc and never bought a raffle ticket he was known for keeping his hands in his pocket.!!

I wonder if the present Rector is the same?

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse

jouell see not even put your name on , I don't know what he said but I was talking to Dave about you the night he introduced himself to me in the club ,
never said anything bad that I know of if I did it was will not have to call you next time if things are get back

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
jouell see not even put your name on... do you mean my real name Dougie? I thought everyone on here knew that...or did you mean something else Now you and David know you know each other at the club

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Jouell-Peter, Not a clue what the flowers spelt out, could have been (MONEY)

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
I know it is but I never put names on

Same with bentleges,uncle joe,bambam,trixie and others like ppnw 38817

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
I'm with you now... silly me

Posted by: dougie (3555)  Report abuse
Hi jouell, had a word with Dave in the club last night told me he was winding you up also how he had been talking to and it wasn't me

by the way he won a full house at bingo last night 20 but don't tell him I told you

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Hi Dougie, lucky him, winning on the bingo... 20 pound is 20 pound, especially when on a pension... enough to buy some more bingo cards/tickets, I've forgotten what you call them ... I've not played bingo in decades

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Dougie, bentlegs, do either of you remember the old village club i am led to believe it was on same site as the one still standing today,i obviously cant recall it but to have listened to the old greeners who have now passed on it was a very good club.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Yes bambam.i'm sure it is on the same site as before.

Johnny Halliwell lived in the first terraced house going up to it.Unless they've built a new one since i last went up there.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
bambam, the new club was about 30yds from the old one.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


When was this "New" Club built?

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
About 1950 or there abouts Trixie,in the 50s anyway,

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Love the drawing bentlegs...

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


It's the one i know then.They have not built another since i was up there.
Yes bentlegs you have been busy with colouring pencils.
well done.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
It took me an hour to do that drawing, i have you know,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks Trixie, bentlegs,i remember ken halliwell tv repairman living in end house on left going up bolton st to club.

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
hi bam bam mr parkinson lived in that house before ken.he used to cut our hair for a tanner when we were young.everybody had the same crew cut.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Bert, Tommy Gum cut ours for four pence but thi yed was sore when he had finished,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, don't remember mr parkinson living there be alright if you could get haircut for a tanner today, do you remember seth hughes school caretaker living a bit further up than ken on other side of bolton st.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bentlegs,dougie or any greeners ,has any of you any info of the land that belonged to the leyland green mine, as a young lad i used to go there for coal with the old wheelbarrow,would like to know what's happened to the old place.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Bambam, It has been landscaped to an extent, no sign of the mine anymore,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for that bentlegs.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse
Is it time for Number 5.my keys are getting a bit "sticky".

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Are you sure it's your keys trixie and not your fingers,you have been in the chocolate again aint ya.

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


You must be a mind reader!!!!!Yes i admit it.

I don't normally eat much chocolate but i have done lately.
I blame my husband,,,he opened ANOTHER tin of Quality Street and offered me one.if i had'nt seen them i would'nt have bothered,but now i have i must make sure they all get eaten.

Posted by: lanky11 (4085)   Report abuse
Ok we all think your telling a tale here

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse


Hi Margaret....
I got to stop eatin all the chocolates!or elseeeeee.mmmmm
A bigger fat belly than i have got already.

I'll just have 1 more....

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Trixie, You can save all the coffee creams for me,

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

You have NO chance of the coffee creams.my favourite.
You can have the fudge ones.
I think he's eaten em all now.arggggg.

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
Would just like to wish Mrs Parry from Downall Green a very happy birthday she is an amazing 100 years old today. What a brilliant achievement for a lovely lady. She has been to a surprise party at Garswood Hall with all her family and friends. Downall Greeners will probably remember her from Rectory school's 170th anniversary.

Posted by: suesa (526) Report abuse
I remember Mrs. Parry. I hope she has had a really lovely day. Congratulations to a very special lady on her special day!

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Happy birthday mrs parry, well done

Posted by: trixie (4871)   Report abuse

Happy Birthday Mrs Parry.Have a great day.xx

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Happy 100th Birthday Mrs Parry... God Bless You!! xxx

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Sorry Woodie, I forgot to say Hi and hope you and fam are all well... Also to Thank you for telling us all about Mrs Parry, what a wonderful lady she is.. I have photos from the reunion of Mrs Parry and I together...She was the oldest and I had travelled the farthest....

Posted by: bert (601) Report abuse
which mrs parry is it. is it joe parrys wife out of elm ave.

Posted by: jouell (4331) Report abuse
Bert, she is Irene Parry' mum... She was the oldest ex pupil at the school reunion... remember she was given a lovely bouquet of flowers and had her pic taken to go in the paper....You were there weren't you

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