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ex-downall greeners3
Started by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
This is the third page of this series. Other getting on the large side..... like me.
These are links back to previous pages if required:-

ex-downall greeners

ex-downall greeners2

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse


bambam.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie how ya doin.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Ok. how are you doin?

Your Tinas hooked on facebook etc.no time for us now.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
i know, i cannot get into that it seems to soak up all your time, im doin fine not been on in a while had heavy workload.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
All work and no play's not good for you,unless you saving up for something really nice.

I had a do with the cafe but it takes your life over.
Have you heard from Brian lately not been on here at all.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
No trixie heard nowt from brian, hope he's ok i will ask mick middlehurst next time i see him.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now there's a name from my past.

I bet Brians reading these posts,little Monkey.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
you could be right trixie, i think he will be in touch shortly, he's bound to come on for a peep.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I knew Michael many years ago.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
i see michael about three times a week when i go to ashton, he aint changed a bit in all the years ive known him.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I did see him on a photo on here somwhere.Ithink it was in blue bell.

He looked the same.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
He is on a couple of pics on my blog, he never seems to age any his birthday is july when he turns 66.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes he's a year older than me.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
His Mother Thelma is still going strong as well , she bought a computer last year so was told & she must be getting on a bit,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
She must be in her late 70's now.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
she is in her eighties now.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
ye your right she is if Michael is 66.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Thanks for starting a new thread bambam sameone may come up with something interesting about the old place

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
I hope so dougie, its been a good thread upto now with lots of interesting people and good posts, iv'e really enjoyed it.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bam bam i saw brian on the last bus home last night .hes looking fine as usual he had beento ashton with tony .hows gwylam doing not seen him.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hi Bert.how are you doing?

Last bus!!!!at your age.

Not heard anything about Gwilym,Brian usually keeps me informed.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Last bus at his age Trixie Brian would already be on the bus and Bert would only have time to say hello before getting off, if he had to pay he would have walk it

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, gwylam was in wigan last week he's doin fine but not to good on the old trotters, it was nice to see him after his recent illness.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
does anybody remember the bloke who mended clogs in a workshop in the backs behind annie deacons shop,and what his name was. also do they remember there being a chipshop in annie deacons backyard.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi peemac, i don't remember any of those i think it was before my time, it certainly sounds interesting hope someone replies.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
There are others on here that can answer this better, but...

Annie Deacons shop was sometimes called the shoe shop, but I cant recall that she did sell shoes, although I do recall her selling wool. There was someone who repaired shoes or clogs there from a workshop in the backs, but if I remember correctly, it was one or two houses down. it was still there late 50's, early 60's.

Drifting a little, if we reckon that Rectory Road started at Booths Brow road, and finished at the Legion, I counted that around 1960 or so, there were 14 or 15 small businesses on or adjacnet to it. Where did they all go?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hello Joe where have you been?

I thought you'd emigrated..

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Hibernating from the snow!

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Snow! What snow.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Trixie--Just mention Downall Green he will keep popping up Shaws had it as a shoe shop before Deacin's took over and she did start selling wool as well as shoes, Shaws also owned the house next door to the shop which he had his shed for repairing shoes/clogs, when Annie Deacin took over the shop Shaws moved next door he still did his repairs,

Yes there was a chippy in the back yard of the shop but don't know how ran it may not have been Shaws or Deacins that had it Bentlegs should now he's owder than me
saying that he didn't remember the fair coming to Downall Green did he

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
There were two shoe menders R pee, Charlie Shaw & nex door but one Ronnie Heyes Dad, cont remember his fust name, Come on Tumtingle , tell me were't fair wuz.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Top of Victoria Road across from the church on Waterworths field would say about 1952 only remember one cobbler in Downall Green,is Ronnie Sams lad as they lived next but one to the shop

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Dougie, Charlie Shaw had that shop as a shoe shop& repairs, i think he retired in middle 40s, Ronnie was the old cobblers son&so was Sam as far as i can remember, Dont remember the fair ,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtell you would be down Ashton or Wigan looking for different girls to them that would be on the fair from Downall Green

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Happen

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Just been given an old Church Magazine from 1915 these are two pages i've coped

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now i remember..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
That's a blast from the past dougie, brilliant.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Bartons opened the chippy at the side of the shop Dougie, it didn't last very long.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Your right Tumtingle I remember now, nout rung wit brain box ye I see

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I dont remember that chippie, but wasn't there one at the top as well? That didnt last long either, if memory serves. Perhaps we didnt like to eat chips?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
There was one for years at the top of rectory road till the pulled the houses down ,i think.

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
The chippie at the back of Annie Deacon's was owned by Alice Barton, where the garage was behind the "Wool shop".
I have a listing of Rectory Road in 1950 which gives the house number and the Occupiers.
It makes interesting reading.

The chippie at the top of Rectory Road was Tommy Aspinall's, not sure if he started the business or if someone had it before him.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Yes Tommy did start the cippy in the 50s,he also had a 12 seat mine bus and two coaches bambams dad drove for him at that time,one was very posh for the 50s it had curtains on the windows, always remember about 1957 Gerry taking a group of us up to lake Windermere camping in the 12 seater

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Was you at this school 45 years age remember this

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Who has the chip shop now in rectory road?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
------------ THIS IS fOR YOUR HELP----------
Don't for get as the thread gets bigger press the END key on the keyboard to take you to the last posting

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Dougie,
I'm not sure if the concert question was directed to me or a general question, but I think this was the Central School concert, I went to the Grammar School.
I recognise two names on the programme, Madeline Aspinall and Peter Ashley, both ex Spindle Hillock, like me.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
No it was just a general question as it was given to me with other things for me to look at,by the badge on the programme I would say it was the old Grammar school

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie the chip shop on rectory rd is a chinese .i think.not tried it got a good one at bryn and every other takeaway from round the world it seems.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie was sudworths shop at the top of rectory rd opposite end to chippy.and did dunnes take over after.i remember the chippy at the back of deacons and the cobbler loved the smell in the cobblers.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes Bert it was Sudworths nearest church, then it was Dunnes who lived in Leyland green road next door to thomas's.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
tommy aspinall started the chippy at the top of rectory rd then jones took over had a son ken fater ran the lifeboys for awhile .then richard ecclestons mum took over .me and peemac used to sit in there in winter to keep mrs ecclestone company and keep warm oh happy days .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I remember Mrs Eccleston but i don't know peemac?do i?

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
trixi my mum was a downagreener joan turner she would have been 73 this year she also has a sister ann she is 58 they used to live in cedar grove next to betty and tommy sheperd my grand parents were agness and jack

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
rbilly, your Ann and I were in the same class at Rectory school.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Sorry rbilly don't know them,different age group to me.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
hello uncle joe will i no you..? do you live or did live on downhall green. my brother also lived on downhallgreen untill he got married

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I was born in DG, in the house that is at the corner of Cedar Grove. Your Ann will remember me.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Hi brilly--knew your mother very well as we was of the same age group and all played together for years,I lived at the bottom of the grove and you always remember my friends from your childhood, also know one of her son's met him by chance years ago and got talking about Downall Green and his mum small world

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie,i lived in poplar ave then moved to hawthorn ave, like bert says many a warm night spent in the chippy

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
When did you move to DG?

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
i was born and bred on downall green till i was 20 yrs old then we moved to nicol rd. i now live on downall green rd

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Sorry,I mean Hawthorne avenue.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Uncle Joe, Did you play the trombone in North Ashton Band?

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Sorry, bentlegs, that wasn't me. I dont get along with musical instruments of any kind... both Dougie and Trixie know exactly who I am

Peemac, if you lived in Poplar, before 1969, then I think that we must know each other.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
uncle joe, i was one of your brothers mates along with bert,barry,danny, keith,arthur chisnall.i lived on the other side of island where bert lived.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Now I think I know who you are. I take it you did hear what happened to my brother?

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
uncle joe, yes i had seen your message on wigan world,it was a big shock to hear about him passing away,we were about the same age. hope you are keeping well.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi peemac nice to see you on here. fancy trixie not knowing you i thought everybody remembered you once seen never forgotten.i thought you knew about uncle joes brother told chissy and howard.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
If you tell me his name i might know.


Will you let me know Joe?

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
hi ya dougi do you mean terry who you were talking to would it have been in the bowling club by any chance?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
No he started work at Reeds years ago your mum was still alive then, said next time you see your mum ask her did she remember a Dougie that lived at Downall Green he finished up will a top job they tell me

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
bert, trixie doesn,t know me i,ve not twigged who trixie is, i didn,t, i only see chissy n howard now and again.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, is the chissy you are on about the one that lived in birch grove then later moved to d-green rd.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi peemac you must remember trixie she lived with her grandma lizzie next to hobsons.had a lovelly head of red hair.hi bam bam yes thats chissy.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now can you give ME some info on peemac please.
seeing as everybody knows what i look like!!!!!

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie you remember bentlegs wellremember who he married.peemac is his brother in law .pee mac had a brother george they lived at the opposite endof hawthorn ave.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
bert, ahm tuned in nay thowd gray matter teks u bit fot warm up.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hey Bert i don't know who Bentlegs married.
The only one i know whith a brother George is jondav?

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie. i lived in poplar ave originally near the island next door to mrs smith

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Sorry on wiser now.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie, lived next door but one to alwyn

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
WHO.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
evans

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
sorry

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie, going up to the island from the jones,s -shaws -hursts- evans -smiths- peemacs -island -bert

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Are you Married to Judith?
I should have realised with your name.
am gerrin forgetful yo no.

If you are our Mams worked together at Cromptons.

Was it Molly that married bentlegs?
I remember Ann Jones + Alwyn evans they were in same year as me.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie, yes it is our molly,got there at last

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi you two its like watching a comedy whos memory goes first.our mary falls out with me use my mrmory is so good.its nice to know youve got it .our ethel was asking how you was pee. we was talking about when we you used to peddle up tohindley green when we were younger.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Peddle up to Hindley green!!!!!!!My good ness me.
They could'nt peddle to local chippy theses days they need a car.

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
bert, tell your ethel ahm awreet, i keep tekkin mi pills n stuff, talkin u beaht bike riding ah cudn"t manidge it to yore heahse neh un its ah deahn bru

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
trixie, our mams did work together at cromptons, also yes i am married to judith

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
ah no's yu no.

I've got me thinkin head on today.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
just been up downall green watching my grandson playing football.he plays for st peters. st peters won 3 nil he was over the moon.totally lost when i got to the field ar back of what was tommy evans shop where did them big hills come from werent there when we were kids .first time ive been there for years.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Ger away with you it's always bin flat.

Ant it????

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Never been any different Burt, Always been on a slope,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
from Bert-- I've just been up downall green, never hard that before how can anyone go up downall green

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hee Hee, i bet he went up soughers lane dougie.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bentlegs iknew it was a slope. bu..t now its a sharp hill. and dougie its always been a laugh because they say going up downall green well us young ones .it is up hill from our house.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I cant resist saying this, but if we went "down Ashton" from Downall Green, wouldn't we come "up Downall Green" on the way back?

Posted by: PeterP (6017) Report abuse
You walk up from ashton to downall green up wigan rd,up low bank rd .up liverpool rd.downall green is in a valley so work that out?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Your right From Downall green you go up Spindle Hillock, up Billinge, up Rectory road, up Leyland green road,and up to Brocstedes
Come on how can you go up to Downall Green from anywhere

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie we never said we were going up spindle hillock.or were going up brocstedes. we just said we were going brocstedes.so billinge. and leyland green rd is up.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, Do you remember a young girl getting drowned over the Fifty's when they had outcroped it, it must have been 48-49 , just somthing me & a friend were discussing,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, not to sure where we are on this one, if i go to downallgreen from wigan via windy arbour were going uphill then down hill,if i go a49 way then take soughers lane or rose hill were uphill then onto flat, if we go billinge from downallgreen we are climbing again, so we must be inbetween not to sure whether we are up or down.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Or when we were down we were up.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
whey hey, you are reet trixie.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Owd Duke of York caused it,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtingle, Do you remember a young girl getting drowned over the Fifty's when they had outcroped it, it must have been 48-49 , just somthing me & a friend were discussing,

Yes it was very sad as not many got killed in them days as they do today, with all the cars and daft things children get up to

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtell, just been told that the girl was Ken Fairhurst sister, they lived on Elm Ave,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
yes thats right I think she was the youngest was in the same class as one of his sisters at Downall Green school

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bentlegs, i remember my father telling me about that sad event, i lived across rd from ken and ethel in elm ave for a long time.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I think Ken was married to Ethel.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi rbilly, have you a brother named terry, i used to knock about with the lads from cedar grove.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie ken was married to ethel. but sadly ken died along time ago.bam bam i see terry pretty often at my daughters we sing on karaoke together and usually finish quite drunk bad influence on us old ones.ha ha .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Well i did'nt know Ken had died.

There must be others i don't know about too.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I'm still trying to work out who Terry from Cedar Grove was. I certainly dont remember anybody by that name. Can someone answer that?

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Ken & Ethel have a son who is the head cheff at the Beeches in Standish, He's been there years, born the same day as my elest lad & in the next bed,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
You mean Robert and has red hair?
Must be in his early forties now.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
hi bam bam i do have a brother terry and yes he does sing with bert and the terry you are on about is terry feeley my baby brother

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi rbilly, thanks for that i know him well.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bentlegs, i remember robert and maree from elm ave, did not know he worked at beeches though thanks for that.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Well BamBam looks like you've done it again keeping the thread going instead of letting it die by uploading Downall Green 3 , 1066 views and 123 replies in a month not bad that

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks dougie, it seems to do well this thread i really enjoy all the info the old greeners put on, i hope it keeps up as well.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Just brought it to the top , thats all,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Ok.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
just to let people know that ken taylor passed away today .

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for info bri, i will let our lil know. RIP KEN.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtingle I'll never catch you up but it was my Birthday a few weeks ago, has your Tom had he's yet
I got more bottles this was just the first lot should last a few months Tumtell

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, He wouldn't sup that stuff , he's a pint man, his birthday is 30th july,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
i will give you a lift with that dougie, can't beat a good tipple

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtel, Dont sup it all on thi birthday,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bri, any news on ken's funeral.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
not as yet dav.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Is it Phillis's husband you mean?
Hows Gwilym Brian?
Iv'e not heard from our John for ages.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
ken taylor,s funeral on fri @ holy trinity @ 12-30 . gwyllam,s still getting out marge.

Posted by: royboy (24)  Report abuse
Hi all. Not been on here for ages and just spent a lot of hours catching up. It saddens me to hear about the people that have died since I was last on, especialy Johns(Sammy)wife.
I have put some picks on my blog from the early 90s on New years eve in the club. Some would be interesting to estele who was asking for pics of the Wilde family. There are a couple of poor Anne on there.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hi Roy not seen you for a long while.(must be at least 35 years)





Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
hi roy ,long time no see.

Posted by: royboy (24)  Report abuse
Hi Brian. Must have been about 92 since i left. Living near Preston now all on my lonesome, (bliss). I was up downall green a couple of weeks ago, called at Kevins gardens to have a look at our Pats statue then went to my mam and dads grave. I often think back to my younger days and as far as I am concerned, there is no better place in the world than there.
Hi Marjorie, took me a while to think who you are but think ive got it now.

Posted by: royboy (24)  Report abuse
Actualy I definately have got you now Marjorie, how could I have had to think so hard.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi royboy how could you forget trixie you lived across the road from each other.nice to see you back on here.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Our Families were friends.but you were only the babbie.


I got funny photos of you all in my wedding album.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
yep roy still in the same house in hawthorn ave.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Royboy, it took zero time for me to remember you, even though we've never seen each other for at least 40 years....

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks bri for the info.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
no-probs dav.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
hello royboy are you by any chance michelles dad

Posted by: royboy (24)  Report abuse
UncleJoe, I have been racking my brains to try and figure out who left from there when you did.
rbilly, I sure am.
Trixie, i know i was the babbie of the family but even all those years ago, I can remeber being at your house. Me Gwylum and John were always there. I have a feeling im going to make a fool of myself here but I cant remeber your husbands name

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Royboy, just to make sure thast I've not got you mixed up with someone else, you have a brother, Colin. Is that corrct?

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
hello roy my daughter laura was a freind of michelles at st peters along with katherine penningon the 3 muskateers many moons ago that was

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
uncle joe-- have you seen the school photo's taken about 1960 on album as your brother is on

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes Uncle Joe Roy has brothers Colin and Duncan and John.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Trixie: I thought that I was correct for once!

Dougie: Yes, I had seen the school photos. In fact, I have also told his kids about them. i was quite touched by the comment under one of them that he had covered the 100 yards in 12,1 secs in his first year. In his final year, he had got that down to 10,3. I've been trying to find out if that record was ever broken, but nobody seems to know.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
This is for all you old Downall Greeners where ever you are hope it brings some memories back Click photo
P.S. click the little box with the four arrows in to go full screen after its uploaded

Click photo for a Slideshow


Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Loved it Dougie...THANK YOU !!!

It's all a lot different from when I was young, but would love to be able to do it again....One of my daughters , her children and their spouses are going over next week, I'm so envious..

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Brilliant, Dougie, and much appreciated.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
you can't get things like this off google earth

Don't forget to press your END key on the keyboard to get you to the last post as it gets bigger

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Again dougie, THANK YOU ! just watched it for the umpteenth time, does bring back lot's of memories, the good, bad and the ugly...still wish I was there...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Thanks a lot Dougie great photos took on a beautiful day.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie just looked at the photo.i took a friend and my son up downall green to have alook in bluebell wood couldnt get over how overgrown it was and how small it seems now .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I agree Bert everywhere seemed so big when we were little.
The school field seemed large but i bet it's not.
(apart from that big hill)

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie been having a look at places i used to go when i was young lately. going up drummers lane now they have made a lovely path and park to walk through up to windy arbour now the open cast has gone its lovely lots of wild life already.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Bert-- I called it bluebell wood it was the Wood/Dell/Gypsy, it's only overgrown because the kids of today don't play out like we did,the Mill fields was the playground for all Downall Greeners in the 50s

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi dougie youre so right there, i spent all my childhood playing in there.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
It doesn't look the same now that the stone wall has gone, it was all that was left of the old corn mill driven by a water wheel,apart from the other wall,if you look over the wall i think there is still some steelwork that held the sluice gates, Tony Rotherham knows quite a lot about it,
( For Tumtingle )

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Is Dougie on holiday again, he's never awom,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
He was here this mornin.

Must be due for holiday though.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Come on you Greeners is this right was posted yesterday by someone
I`m shocked to hear that Ernie Bentham has passed away, I used to be good friends with Ernie.He lived in Downall Green last I saw him. A couple of years younger than me....A lovely lad!! I`m really upset now!!!

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, did Ernie marrie a girl named Shepard or am i on the wrong one,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Yes thats right Tumtell he was married to Jimmy and John Clarks sister first she died along time age, don't know her name

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, Thanks for that . I did know him but wasn't sure,

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
dougie, ernie is alive and kicking saw him yesterday walking his dog in spindle hillock peemac

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Thanks Pee, as I said it was on another post that he had passed away and I to had only just seen him but I also know it happens, you greeners have let the side down it's taken three day to find out, so I have to take it not many Greeners look on here only ex-greeners, Thanks again Pee

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Ernie still lives in the house he and Margaret (Clark)lived in which used to be Margaret's parents house.
He lives there with his wife/partner? Irene I think.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi erwick, i think i knew these people did they work at makerfield mill in 70s.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi erwick is he married to john sheppards sister or am i on the wrong one cant remember him .

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, i think ernie was married to margaret, then later married a girl from rectory rd,

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Think Ernie married Margaret who was Graham Boyles widow from Rectory Rd, You shook my brain up Bambam.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bentlegs graham boyles wife wasjohn sheperds sister out of cedar grove.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Wer on't reet track then Bert.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now what wus her name then.was she little with short hair?

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
yes she was trixie, good looking woman but can't remember her name, possibly eileen or irene not to sure.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie her name was shepard and she was small with short hair.she still looks the same now not changed alot.good living.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
She used to work in't Dole in Ashton, Doreen comes to mind but not sure,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
None of them springs to mind.
I may have her mixed up with somebody else.
The couple who i thought,he was very tall and she was small.

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Hi All,
Sorry I've not got back earlier, but Ernie Bentham married Kathleen Boyle nee Shepherd and yes it is John's sister.
I'm not sure if Margaret Clark worked at Makerfield Mill.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
erwick, think you are right so we can put that one to sleep,

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
We were getting way down the page so just brought it up.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Are we dryin up.
Never knew a greener stuck for a chat.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi erwick, margaret definately worked at makerfield mill in 70s, i remember her well.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie the couple you are thinking of who lived in the grove were chris boland and rita who was richard slaters sister.chris is very tall and rita is small.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I'm sure his name was Graham who i was thinkin of.
must be gerrin owd!!!!nearly 65...going deaf,blind and daft..but still got me own teeth and hair.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
you may no this but . john shepard died a long time ago he lived in morcambe at the time lovely lad lovely family ..their mum betty is still well and still living in downhall green she is an old family freind we all call her aunty betty known the family all my life

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie kathleen was married to graham boyle he lived the last house in birch grove next to henleys.rbilly i did know about john he was the same age as me .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Thats who i must mean.thanks Bert.
Do many of the old lot still live there Bert?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
most of the peoplewho were there when we were younger have either moved or passed away.thats all you seem to hear when you bang into old friends.so keep enjoying life while we have chance going cruising again in a short while.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
We are going on OV last voyage to singapore for a month in nov.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i hope the one were going on is not its last.its only a couple of years old never been on this line before hope its good my daughter and family are coming with us and her friend and her family .they are not little kids so should be good.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, mick cummins is joining buffs next sunday why dont ya come down to old rd labour club.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
just to let people know who remembers a local group called oggi & the membranes a.k.a. alan hodson passed away on friday .

Posted by: suesa (525) Report abuse
Saw this mentioned the other day on here Brian.
I remember Oggie & the Membranes well from when they played Thursday night dances at the Village Club.
Good Memories.
R.I.P. Oggie

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
seen him in ashton a couple of mths ago & was having a chat with him about the gigs he did in the bell .

Posted by: bluesman (246) Report abuse
Two of my friends who live in Yorkshire,Glenda and Kath Roberts have asked me to enquire about Nurse Stokes who ran the Trinity Girls Band.
They would like to know if she still lives local.Kath would like to get in touch with her regarding information about the owner of a cornet she has just bought.It used to belong to Fred Rose who Glenda said trained the original band.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Bluesman, Nurse Stokes died a few years ago.

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Third Chapter ...... and the St.Helens section are still keeping their thread active!

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
It's bin sold to Australia Bert and having a refit in Singapore first.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
trixie were going on royal caribbean independance of the sea.not been with them before not be long now.grandsons trying to get me on the surf rider part of there enjoyment watching me make mistakes im clumsier than anything .they take extra insurance in case ha ha .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Why don't you try the rock climbing too.
it sound good.
We've just paid our bill now so skint again.
Let me know how you like it.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie i would be alright trying mounting climbing its hard getting upstairs nowadays.just hope weathers ok.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Bert and Trixie, if you are going on cruises, then you could at least choose one of the boats my nephew is on....

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now thats silly when you never did tell me which it was.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi uncle joe what line is your nephew on.we may get some little perks if we mention your name.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
He's on The Costa Cruise ships. After his next but one trip, family members get a lot of perks! Mention both my name and his Dads, it will help!

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
We might give them a try now that OV will have finished soon.

What job does he do Joe?whats his first name

Got to go on the 2 already booked first before we book anymore.
Has your Wife had her BIG birthday yet?

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Trixie, it was celebrated in the Hand Hotel in Chirk. Do you know it?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Did you stay at the Travelodge?
did you go to to the Viaduct?

No i don't know the pub but can you recommend it?

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
We went over both the Chirk and Pontcysyllte aqueducts in both directions, getting told off for standing on the roof of the boat videofilming on the return over the latter.

Though theres nothing wrong with the food in the Hand, its much better at a place called The Moorings Restaurant in Anderton. Best pub grub was at the Black Bear in Whitchurch, but that might change in a few days as the chef is moving on to another pub in Oswestry. Julie in the Bear does sell a good pint of bitter, for those that drink it!

Trixie, mail me if you wish.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
This is ready for a new one again..Bambam.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Alreet trixie, its only a baby yet loads of space.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
It's me "home +end" wats playin up.

i'll hav fot stop talkin so much.

it teks me agiiiss fot ger here.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Trixie, Just press the end button & it will take you to the last post, press Home button to take you to the top.I think Duggie has said this before,

Tumtell

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I know that but it was stickin and would only go very very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.it seems ok now...

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert are you out there i would like your info regarding buffs.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
I've just found Micks youtube video it's good starts at Windy Arbour through to Wigan, Click photo and see if you can follow it as good as I did, but some of you may go about with your eyes shut


P.S.Give it time to load,I've had to play it again just for the music so the wifes can hear it as she's doing the bed rooms

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
For Mick hope you don't mined me uploading it here as I would just like to point out to the Downall greeners the lovely country side they have on their door step,

Excellent video its a place that I've lived all my life and could follow it every step of the way thanks, you seem to know your way round Mick thats some bike ride Thanks

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I really enjoyed that..Thanks a lot Mick and Dougie.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I enjoyed it myself, but sadly, after being away from DG for so long couldnt recognise a lot of the places. Could someone post an exact description of the route taken?

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
You wouldn.t recognise any of the places, because NONE of them are Downall Green!

I think Mick has missed out Downall Green on purpose, because it's in St.Helens!

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
It was in the AUDC area when I left, has it been moved?

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
No. But St.Helens has!

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Good slideshow though tonker you must admit,I think this was one that Mick forgot to upload

Posted by: frances (2831)  Report abuse
When the boundaries changed in 1974 or there abouts a lot of places changed districts, I lived in Lancashire but after the chage was put in Merseyside, part of Ashton in Makerfied found itself in the St Helens area, I think Downall Green was part of A I M that is now under St Helens but I wonder if the people who live there really accept those changes or do they still think of it as it used to be.

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
It's only the 'local government' (council) that's changed, Frances.
Downall Green is still Downall Green, and it's still part of Ashton in Makerfield regardless of who empties the bins!

That said, it's nothing to do with Wigan, and never has been!

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Anybody remember Molly Ainscough from Hawthorn Ave & where did she end up,She used to knock hell out of my brother,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Molly had a thing about men.she used to terrify Dickie Smout when they lived across road.No wonder they moved back to Simms Road.

I'm not sure what happened to her but i think her Dad died and was to much for her Mum.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Trixe-- Molly's dad was a dad in a million the way he looked after her he took her everwhere with him, she didn't dislike all man if she liked you she would keep saying so but if she didn't she would let everyone in the club know

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I don't think she disliked men,just the opposite Dougie.
yes her Dad was great with her.she also had a thing about closing gates.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie molly went in a home along time ago when luke could not manage her anymore.george davies used to go andvisit her .but ive not seen him for awhile.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bam bam sorry i did not answeryour question ive been cruising the med only got back yesterday.now i need a rest/

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Mollie always said to me."don't like you" where's your Eddie.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Me and my Mam were at our front gate one time when Molly and her Mam came by. My Mam and Mrs Ainscough started to talk,when out of the blue, Molly gave me one hell of a thump, almost knocked me over....

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
That was molly, i don't like you ? wallop.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I always ducked then.

Thats Mollie such a caracter,but we loved her.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I didn't have the chance to duck trixie, she was in back of me and caught me unawares..We had some characters in DG didn't we? Doreen, Molly and there was David ?, he lived toward the bottom end of Poplar Ave..if he ever saw me, he wouldn't leave me alone, followed me everywhere...

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Jouell, that would have been David Hayworth, lived at number 11. I wonder what happened to him?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Photo link Here of an old Downall Greener Arthur Winstanley that past away rest in peace

P.S I think David is in a home(only think) as he may have come home again he was living with his sister in Old Road for years, till she couldn't manage him but will ask next time I see her how their Dived is and get back to you if no one else dose first

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
He always visited my friend Margaret Halliwell.I will ask her next time i speak to her.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
trixie, is the Margaret you mentioned, Margaret Cooper? We used to be good friends when we were little, spent many many happy hours playing together in her uncles pen across the road from my house.....If it is her, please say Hello from me, next time you see her...

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
uncle joe, yes he is the one, I can see Davids face now, but I don't remember names so good..

Dougie, where in DG did Mr Winstanley live? Can't be many old DGs left now, how sad.....I can only think of one and, well, her names slipped my mind now...Thelma ?, she was a beautiful looking lady, I remember that..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Remember molly, david ,also ronnie and dorothy.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Hi Remember he was 87 and when he married he moved away from DG to Bryn area heas two son's Brian and Ken and a daughter Heather, but as a lad he lived in the old cottages at the side of the church yard his dad had the big garden that back onto the graveyard it was the one with the big greenhouse don't know if you remember it as I don't know your age

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes jouell thats Margaret.i will certainly tell her.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
david hayworth was still collecting glasses in the village club last time i was in there see him walking in the street often.jouell the lady thelma was it middlehurst she was a very pretty lady and now still looks marvellous for her age.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I was all mixed up this morning, I said Doreen when I meant Dorothy, I remembered Middlehurst whilst I was having my dinner,and a load of other stuff that happened...what a morning.....

Dougie I used to love going in those greenhouses, I remember, I guess it must have been old Mr Winstanley, he used to grow the most beautiful Chrysanthemums..As for my age, I'm older than I want to be and got here a heck of a lot faster then I ever dreamt I would.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
I was talking to Thelma Middlehurst last year in Ashton & she was telling me that she had bought a computer, she had just been to the libary for a lesson, i am sure she said she was close on 90. Both her & BIll her husband were smashing people,

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
david hayworth lives in old road with his sister margaret she is my god mother he moved in with her when his mum died lovely lady

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Thanks rbilly.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
trixi i have just noticed that dougi says david was in a home he may well be as i have not seen margaret for a while and i do no her hubby was not of good health when i last spoke to her . but she has looked after david for a long time she has been a good sister to him . i worked in the nursing home that mrs heyworth was in untill she died that would be about 19 years ago ..

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Rbilly, do you know if his other brothers and sisters are still alive? Though I may be wrong, I seem to remember that there were four or five kids in total in his family.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Fred , Jack, Magaret & David, i think thats the whole family uncle Joe, as far as i know the are still with us,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, where are tha hiding, was in bryn labour club sunday afternoon could not believe how many old greeners was in, had a belting time only got out at 8.30? a bit wobbly.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bambam dont drink in afternoons. dont go in bryn club much i go to bowling club most of the time .have grandkids in afternoons.greeners go in bryn for cheap ale theres not a lot of choice at downall green.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Do they use their bus pass.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie i use mine every week coming from bowling club straight to front door. usually full of greeners going home from ashton.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Ha ha.i used mine last week to come from Aberystwyth to Wrexham.
It comes in handy at times.

Ps i'm savin up for me hols.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
just come back of the royal carrabean international .two weeks on the med fantastic.beer a bit dear but dont drink much.everything else was great.saving for next one.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Keep using the bus pass.

Pennies make pounds.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
What with Bert saving up for a cruise, Trixie saving up for the same, as well as me, there'll be a DG Navy soon...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
We'd better start our own thread eh.

Owd cruisers.com.

Now then do they take buzz passes on them cruises?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
No but they do when you get to Gibraltar

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Do they take Welsh ones Dougie?

You learn somethin every day on here.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
Can anyone help. I was told,on Tues, that an old friend of mine and ex Downall Greener, Howard Brooks had sadly passed away. I have been unable to find out anything regarding the funeral, as I don't know his address. Does anyone have any info? Thanks.

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
no - ones said anything bert . i was with his ex brother-in-law & he never mentioned anything about it . i,d tread quietly on this 1 .

Posted by: peemac (28) Report abuse
bert, i dropped on barry in aldi this morning.it is right about howard. apparently he passed away either tuesday or wednesday of last week. have not seen anything in the paper about any arrangements

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi peemac i couldnt find out .so i phoned alan jones the undertakers today he said they were doing the funeral but it had not been sortd yet.let you know if i find out.been away for the weekend .so not seen chissy.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi peemac been your house but nobody in .funeral at crematorium on tuesday at 2.30.seen some of old mates .

Posted by: aspey (168) Report abuse
Does any one remember Ernie Heaton used to work for royal london and lived on Downall Green Rd his wife was Gladys she worked in the fish shop in Ashton .

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Yes his dad too Ernie was a Japanese prisoner of war before he joined his dad with the Royal London after the war, but he would never talk about his time as a prisoner he was a very nice man Ernie

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Re-David Hayworth my wife was talking to his sister to-day he his still living with her my mistake, she's been a good loving sister for along time as Margaret

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Yes she has..it can't have been easy for her, she isn't getting any younger..God Bless them..

Posted by: nutty tart (469)   Report abuse
Ernie Heaton came to my mums house for the insurance money for donkeys years. He was a lovely, lovely man but i never knew he had been a Japanese prisoner of war
Such a gentleman.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Bump Bump.


Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi trixie, you ok love, sorry iv'e not been active been busy with work.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Trixie-- don't just bump the thread to the top get talking about something that people can join in with,same with you Bambam or just let it slip off the page to be lost for ever,

Ask a question like do any of you remember the blue tits nest in the dell,or the two fingered wrens nest in Downall Green wood,or the old fallen down tree that everyone climbed where was it, just see if anyone can answer any of them

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
No don't remember them Dougie.

Don't work tooo hard bambam.

I'm off for a month soon so i won't be on for a while.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Wouldn't think you went nesting but even if you did don't think you would have got to them and the big tree may not have been there for you to see this was only an example so you'll not be on your own

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Dougie, were you living in Poplar in 1953?

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Does anyone remember the siren at the top of Leyland Green Rd and Birch Grove? Was it left over from the war? I remember hearing it from time to time...

There also used to be a lovely big tree...well it seemed big as kids...at the top of L G Rd and B G...

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Yes uncle joe--across the road from you but you would have been a little lad then ,we moved on to the estate 1946 I lived there from 1946 to 1963 thats when I got married and moved to Rose Hill at Bryn

jouell--their would have been no need for a siren there as before the war it was all fields, it would have been the siren for the open cast mining across from the houses on Layland Green Road, as they sounded a siren every time they blasted so everone could take cover, yes it was a big tree they most have taken it doun to built the privet houses

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
i remember the siren as a youngster, it was near garages on top of birch grove, also remember fishing at top of leyland green rd behind the house.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Dougie: This is a long shot as you were young then, but do you remember any births in nearby houses in that year? One next door going down, one across the road?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
sorry no idea of any ages of people in the street they was classed as younger,older,or same age as me in them days

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
I remember the siren, but I never knew what it was for. It was on a tall wooden post which was attached to the garages. These were a big block of about five units. We used to climb on them all the time. There were also some individual garages at the side and Billy Collier fell through the roof of one, landed on a car which broke his fall.We all got into bother though.
Billy sadly died a long time ago, he lived in Poplar Ave.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
If memory serves, he lived at number 10.

I remeber him as owning a Norton Jubilee when he was 15, and practising on it in their back garden until he was 16, and could ride it on the road legally. Oh, and being put flat on his back in the Village club after interfering with a snooker game...

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Billy lived next door to us at number 14 it was sad as we was close to the family for years before and after, his dad joined him a few years ago and his mam joined them in January this year so they rest in peace together

You've got me on that one uncle joe I know younger lads lived at number 10 and 8 but don't know about any bikes

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Billy Collier was a good friend of ours,it was very sad how that happened he only went for a medical to join the services and was diagnosed with a terminal illness.

His poor Dad lost all his hair and it took years to grow again then it was snow white.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Billy worked with us at Millingford Engineering it must have been about 1969 when he died,nice lad,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Colliers...did they live on the left side, going toward the bottom end of Poplar?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
uncle joe--been thinking about number 10 and the motor bike I think his last name could have been Sherratt or sherrock but I was living in Bryn and only came up to see my mam

yes thats right jouell No 14, hope Tonker dosen't see this odd numbers on the left even, numbers on the right coming away from a town centre

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtingle-- do you think that the siren could have been from the open cast working across from your house, I know their was one across from the school during the war

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
dougie, I remember my Mam and Dad being friends with someone down there, I couldn't think of their names, but seeing Collier, I remembered it...
They were very nice people I remember that...

Posted by: suesa (525) Report abuse
Hi Jouell, Billy's Dad was also Bill, his Mum's name escapes me now. He had 2 sisters, Joyce and Joan.
Hope you are well

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Hi Suesa, I'm doing fine thanks, you?

Yea, it's the same family..as soon as I saw Collier, it came to me....I'm bad with names, faces I remember, but not names....

Posted by: suesa (525) Report abuse
Yes fine thanks.Plodding on wit' yed down - as they say

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Dougie, its me that got the house numbers wrong. I was basing that side of the road from Wildings living at 14, when it should have been 18.

Does anyone know if any of the current residents of "our houses" are on here? I'm assuming that all of the old 'uns have moved by now.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Uncle Joe .We had a great time at "Ellesemere".

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi everyone billy collier went to school with me through rectory and centralschool i thought it was 1967or 1068 when he died. he was a good at sport a very good friend sadly missed.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie i remember a two fingered wren nest in dell were the brook turned you got under the roots of the tree.and the owls nest as you went of the school field through the square into the dell and the hut under the roots of the big tree at the bottom of the grave yard.i think it fell over and gone now.good memories.

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
did you know that mrs collier died a few months ago ..

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Are you not able to walk through the Dell anymore? Last time I was in DG, the cottages at the bottom end of the Dell had gated off the pathway...I used to love walking through the Dell...

Does anyone remember the cow falling into the brook in the Dell?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi rbilly i didnt know tony her son in law neever said when i saw him at howards funeral.she was a lovely woman as was bll her husband a lovely man.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Dougie mentioned it a few posts back...I don't remember too much, it was a long time ago, but I do remember them being a lovely family....

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Bert: what was the reason Billy died? Do you know? And can you shed any light on the "snooker incident" I mentioned a few posts ago?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
He was as fit as a fiddle but when he went for a medical for the army they found their was somethong wrong with his heart, it all stemmed from that

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, If you remember the field on the right of the Fifty was outcroped & that was where Ken Fairhurst sister was drowned, & i think the siren was for that outcrop. I think it ran from 1947 to 50.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
bentlegs, can you answer my question 6 posts back, about the Dell....

Posted by: PeterP (6017) Report abuse
I lived on leyland green rd and remember getting into the dell from booths brow road then walking the full length of the woods,go under the bridge at the dam.then walk throu bluebell wood,under or over the railway line(naughty)follow the brook to skitters wood then play all day,Bet you cannot do this now?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
jouell.i think that gate has been on for at least 25 years .I think?


Iv'e done the same too ppnw38817.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
It wouldn't surprise me if every child in DG had done the same!

Trixie, glad you enjoyed "Ellesmere."

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Has it been that long trixie...It hasn't been that long since I was last in DG, but it has been a long time since I last walked by that way... How was it that they were allowed to block off the walkway?

Does anyone remember the cow that fell into the brook in the Dell?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I don't remember the cow.
The gate was on so long ago but i'm not sure if it has been permanent all this time,could have been on +off, i think they had problems with vandals etc going up that way.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hijouelle the gate was put there and there is a fence all along the field from the cottages because the school took over the field and the path is not public anymore.the fence at booths brow road was spiked when i was a kid because my brother gordon slipped getting oyer and cut his head open. and still as the scar all these years later.i dont remember the cow.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Shame about the Dell, I used to love walking through there...Somebody has to remember the cow..I'll be thinking I'm losing my mind next..

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi uncle joe i think billy went for trials at wigan rugby when they found a problem with his heart.he went for a operation and was due to go for convalecence when he died.dont rememberthe snooker incident though but if it was in village club we didntgo in so often we went in legion.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Billy played the drums.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
if they carry on expanding the grave yard there will be no dell its up to the footpath were you used to walk passed the rectors house.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Bert how old were you when you had the accident with your eye?

I remember it but just curious,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
What a shame,no more Dell... makes us realize even more how lucky we were to be living at DG as children..there were so many lovely place for us to go and play..Todays children in spite of wealth of toys and such, don't have the freedom and fun that we all had...

Thanks bert and trixie..

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Jouell , If ican remember old Maud that lived in the next cottage to Geof Aspinall had it blocked of, i know we always got a mouthful off her when we went through. As regards the cow, no i dont recall it,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Hi bentlegs....Wasn't it a public right of way though? Please somebody remember the cow, I'm beginning to question my sanity here....

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
We could all tell a porkie and agree with you.

Would you feel better?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie i was 10 years old when it happened.and i dont remember the cow. knew one or two at d green but never stuck in a brook .ha ha/.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
No..it's so frustrating though..I can see it as clear as anything in my head..

As you walked into the Dell from the D G rd end, the brook was on your right hand side and on the other side of the brook were fields, but the fields were higher up than the brook.and the cow fell down into the brook...The farmer came with a tractor, to try and pull it out, (not sure in the firemen were there or not ), there were a lot of people though, all trying to get the cow on it's feet...

I think I left then, as I don't know any more than that...



Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
jimmy ormshaw lived next to maud before aspinalls got the cottage .maud used to torment us in the clubs when we grew up about calling her maud the very big fraud.oh happy days.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Where did the cow come from juell as i don't ever remember any cows in there.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
All I can think of is the field that was across the brow from Cunliffes farm..that field stretched from booths brow rd to the backs of the houses on Downall Green rd...Dellside close or whatever it's called wasn't there then... I'm going back 50-55 yrs...

If nothing else, it's kept the thread going a bit...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Now you are gettin better,we lived backed on to Cunliffes field,it must have got across the water,
i must be goin doo lally now.i forgot !!!!

You are on the road to recovery,just got to sort the Owls out now.

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
Jouell, were Geoff Aspinall lives in the barn there were two cottages at the side one was demolished many years ago and it is the occupants of the cottage now who built the brick wall which blocks the pathway. But they retain access for themselves with a locked gate hidden around the side. The bridge accross the brook has also been demolished preventing access. The red shale track was laid around the war years and was used by Cromptons the hingemakers from Highfield House to get to church with their pony and trap.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i remember the cows being in the field now before delside close was built.at one point of the brook it was high on each side we used to dam it and swim in it.and at the back of my mind i remembera cow getting loose.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Thank god for that.well done bert.

juell can rest easy now.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
See what happens when I miss a day...both bert and trixie are remembering fields and cows..

Thanks for that info woodie, I never knew of Cromptons having the Dell as their 'Private' pony track to Church...So who actually owns the Dell ?.all land is owned by someone...if it's not owned by the people in the cottage, they wouldn't have the right to stop anyone going in, would they? Just curious...

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
I have just been informed that Ronnie Lawton has passed away at the age of 62. He used to live in Hawthorn with his brother John and his dad Alf. I believe he lived in Aspull. Ronnie was a good mate of mine when we were teenagers. RIP.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi jonday im sorry to hear this about ronnie he was in the same class as me and your george at school.not another one.i banged in george and he said he was going to visit you when it was howards funeral.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi jouelle i think the owners must be the church for when we were young mister hope who worked for the rector used to chase uus off.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Thanks bert..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Does all you owd greeners remember jack slater's bus coming round estate, he must have had that going for years, with fruit and veg also tobacco.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
When i was Pregnant with my first child i used to have a craving for his sausages,I could'nt survive a day without them,i followed him round the estate to buy them.after having the baby i never touched another one of them.



It seems so daft now.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
That's not a bad craving trixie, i have heard worse hope you enjoyed them,

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi bambam i worked for jack slater for a while whhen i left school. i rememberhe had a car and trailer when we were kids we used to ride on the spuds on the back of trailer.alan lives near me at bryn now.

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
Bert
I remember either a cow or a horse falling in the brook where the bank was a bit steep and they had to get it out.
Ashpad

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Ashpad has juell paid you to say that?

they are coming out of the woodwork now juell.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
trixie, no I did not .....but Thanks for that Ashpad There were a lot of people there, I'm surprised no one else can remember it..but then they would have to be members on here and see this..so...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I hope you are feeling better this week,now you jogged their memories.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I was fine last week, but as no one was remembering anything, I was beginning to get frustrated and thinking maybe it was me.. Now I know I am fine.. plus the little wavies..

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
Trixie
No I remember it happening probably happened before as well,played round there enough times
Ashpad

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
So have i and i lived backed on to the field for nearly 25 years!!but most of that time the Cunliffe ladies had moved out of the farm into the Bungalow at the end.
There's a thought does anybody know who lives in that Bungalow now.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi trixie the lady who lives in the farm was working in the school across from me. she was telling me she inherrited a donkey and other animals .i think she bought it of trvor ratcliffe whos father had the garage down low bank rd .

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
So Trevor has moved from the farm.i worked for him for a while.

Posted by: spectre (619) Report abuse
The people who live in the farm are Mary and Roger.Mary smetimes works in the creche at St.Peters Bryn in the office.She's a very nice lady.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi spectre yes she is a lovely woman we had a good talk about the farm she used to go to school with trevor.i was picking my grandson up at the school.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Do you know her last name?

Posted by: spectre (619) Report abuse
Dyson

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
it doesn't ring any bells .never heard that name from round there.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Was that her maiden name bert?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hi juell.i've rang our friend Margaret a couple of times this week and got no answer and her mailbox is full, i'm gettin a bit worried as she doesn't go away.i must contact somebody to find out.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
trixie, I heard she was in the hospital last weekend, don't know why, or where she is now....

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Do you know what with?legs or other trouble?

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I think it was pains in her stomach..don't know anything other than that...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Iv'e sent an e mail to a friend that lives near her to see if she knows anything.
Amazing in it how you tell me all the way from the USA.....

Thanks.i'm glad i mentioned it.

Posted by: spectre (619) Report abuse
Don't know Marys maiden name.She used to be a school teacher.They lived in the bungalow next to Winstanley College,before that they lived in Old road near the police station.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
yea well, I only know because a friend was visiting someone that night and happened to see Margaret or she saw him...as I said I don't know anything other than that...Worrying though that she isn't answering her phone, makes you wonder if she is still in..if she is, she'll have been in over a week.. I'd appreciate it if you would let me know what you find out...

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes i will definately let you know anything i hear.
David is in London and Steven lives in Wigan so nobody there to find out from.I must get Stevens number for future referance.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Thanks...hope it's good news..

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Hi Trixie and Jouell,
I've just asked my mum, who goes to Sandra Dowd's hairdressers, to see if she had seen Margaret recently.
She hasn't, but was told last week that she hadn't been well.
I phoned the shop but there was no answer.
I'll continue to try and get an answer. Also phoned Margaret's, but like you there was no answer.

I'll keep you informed.

Regards,
Erwick

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
Miss Cunliffe still lives at the bungelow she will be 94 years young now.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Oh my gosh! God Bless her!! Thanks woodie.....

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Hi erwick i've got a friend asking around.
Her friend Sandra.i'm not sure if she is in the shop much these days but she would know.but be careful what you write on here.

So Miss Cunliffes still there,i thought i'd never heard the bungalow changing hands or up for sale.
thanks woodie.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Margaret was on the same ward as my daughter a couple of weeks ago,She had the same problem, Griping pains,May be home now,

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Thanks bentlegs.

Posted by: woodie (39) Report abuse
Hi BamBam Jack slater at one time had a horse and cart around the 1950's selling his fruit and veg etc. He kept his horse in a stable on his pen. When his dad started the buisness he would take his goods round on a hand cart.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
jondav the garages at the top of Leyland Green rd is were whups fell off retrieving his ball. damaged his hip was in hospital a long time still limps to this day.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for that woodie, i don't remember that, only remember the old ob coach he converted to fruit and veg van. i wonder if anyone has any photos of slater's pen in 50s or 60s.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Well been away for a week and would just like to say its been nice catching up
Woodie-- your right about the red shale path as Dot Crompton played the organ in the church before Harry Lowe took over and it was her way of getting to church,you could see her walking that path every Sunday in the 40/50s, their was also another Fruit & Veg man Jack Shaw that was going in Downall Green long before Jack Slater anyone remember him

Keep talking

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Do you mean on Leyland Green Rd dougie?

I lived directely across the rd from Shaw's pen..I don't remember his first name..I used to love going in the shed and smell all the fresh fruit and veg..I also used to play in the bottom part of the pen, nr the brook, with his niece Margaret.. There used to be sheds and stuff down there and in the winter one of the sheds/ hut, had a coke stove going and it was always toasty warm...

Dougie do you remember the car he had? I don't ever remember him going out in it..I've no idea what make it was, I do remember some blue on it, and it was always washed and polished....

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Your right it was just across from you, at that time I think their was only one bungalow on that side of the road that old man Tumtell will up us right yes we could play all along the brook lovely fresh clean water straight from the razza,don't remember the car as we lived on the other side of the estate another for the --- ---

Everyone don't forget to press the END KEY for last posting as this thread is O.K. yet

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
was it not jimmy shaw who had the pen they used to go round selling fruit and veg in fifties as well as slaters.albert rimmer had a bungalow up the road i think that was before bill slater had hes bungalow .built

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Back in the early 50s there was only one other building on the same side as the pen and small row of terraced house... Bert, Rimmers did live in that bungalow, but they weren't the first. I can't remember the name of the first family. bentlegs will remember,they had a daughter that I played with a lot and the mother did beautiful smocking , I remember that and I think she and my Mam were friends..

bentlegs or any of the older D Greeners, do any of you remember a pig pen on the land between the bungalow and Shaws pen?





Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi jouelle i know they werent the first family to live there.but i remember uncle albert being there.i remember a piggery being at th back of the terraced houses slater took them over he used to keep pigs for a short time then he kept geese in them when i worked there as a kid with my brother.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Owd on a bit, The fruit & veg man on Leylandgreen rd was Harry Shaw, Jack Shaw was his brother who lived at the begining of Booths Brow rd,(near Tommy Gum) remember him? Jack also had a fruit & veg round,
The first Bunalow was built accross the road from us & Alf Smith had it built in 1949,I looked after his pigs & chickens when i came home from school,
Bill Slater built a bunalow about 5 years later,
Anyone know where Top ut Knob was? Tumtell should know,Rimmers bought Alf bunalow about 59-60,

Here the lesson endeth, Longfellow,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Thanks bentlegs, Smith was the name.. Did they move Lowton way, somewhere like that and I think the daughter whose name I forget was big into horse jumping competitions..

I didn't realize the pig pen was their's, that would explain my Dad being in there and being tossed by one of the pigs..

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
jouell you dad was friends with jack slater because they used to go to the institute in wtgan rd and i hadto go and tell you mum and mrs slater wh3ere they had gone i think they used ask me because i had trouble pronouncing it .knowing your dad better later in life i think they did it for a laugh.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
That's funny bert,,yea, my Dad didn't have a twinkle in his eye for nothing..
I know Dad and Jack Slater were good friends, I remember one Christmas eve, someone knocked on the front door, when we opened it we couldn't see anyone.. Later we heard a bump and a bang, again went to the front door and found my Dad... Jack Slater and Dad had been out for a drink..as they did..my Dad was the worse for wear, so Jack Slater brought him home and propped Dad up in the corner of the front Porch, then he took off, as he knew he'd get it from my Mam..
But I 'm talking about the pig pen right on Leyland Green rd, on the land between Smiths then Rimmers bungalow and Shaws pen across from my house That's where Mr Smith had pigs and he and my Dad were friends too..

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
i remember harry shaws building on l-g-rd . i used to go in it from time to time . i think he lived in the terraced houses at the bottom of l-g-rd . at 1 time i think it was the house that jack sudworth lived in .

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Harry Shaw lived in the end terrace house next to the pen he had... My family moved to L G R in 48, when I was 4.. As far as I remember, Shaws were living there then and throughout my childhood.. Maybe some older D Greeners will remember more than I do...

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Yes Janet you are right, iremember Harry Shaws father when he was a very old man & harry lived with him in the terracsd house, The pig pen was where Bill Slater built his bungalow, Alf Smith sold him the land & alf promised not to keep pigs as a conditionof the sale of land,
Alf Smith owes me about 5 in wages, it was murder getting my ten bob a week off him,
Alf went to live in Glasbury Nr Warrington, he bought a small holding & him & his brother Stan built a house on the land & sold it , they bought some more land near by & built gsome more houses & that is how Alf Smiths Building firm got off the ground, He built houses in Golbourne & made quite a few bob & then sold out, He still owes me 5 but i dont think i will get it now unless i can find his daughter Lynn, The little mare as i called her, She turned out to be very pretty,

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Harry Shaw built a garage for his fruit cart at the top of Leylandgreen road & Birch Grove, It was later knocked down to build the houses that are there now,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
So I wasn't too far off when I said Lowton.. Did Lynn have dark curly hair? I played with her, but I don't remember what she looked like, although I remember her Mother doing loveley smocking..crazy!

I used to love going playing at their house, it was like a Palace to me back then..Did he build that bungalow bentlegs?

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Yeah i remember Tommy Gumm he had a barbers shop on Boothsbrow Rd i had my hair cut their. Seems like selling fruit and veg in Downall Green was a roaring trade.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Do you remember the under ground den's we use to play in crawling along on hands and knees to get in. This was at the top end off Leyland green Rd were the big tree was.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse

Greener join the club ask a question and someone will reply
their a good lot on here,
Tumtingle it was Harry, Jack lived in the end house in Tommy Gumm's row he had two sons Barry and ------ a knew thad purus rett nout rung wit yed yet

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Thanks dougie Can any one remember the old pop house on leyland green road in operation, When did it close and who ran the buisness.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Bradburns ran it but it closed before 1936, Half still standing,

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
wellcome greener happy postings . enjoy thee sen

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Thanks for the info bentlegs they must have been the farmers across the road, i remember cattle being in there.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Can anyone remember any of the characters of Downall Green from the 40s 50s 60s,? Tommy Gum the barber, owd tommy Gregg Pellet nose & Plummy , Any more Tumtingle?

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtell-their was lots of charicters in them days and for different of reasons, when in the club on a sunday night and we get talking about some of them from Garswood, simm's road,and downall green,they all keep coming up time and time again and you would know them

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, get some on here,

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
I remember mi dad teking me and mi brother George for short back and sides to Tommy Gumm. He was a funny little man with a hump back and frightened us to death. I suppose he was harmless really.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Who was the man who wore a patch over where his nose should have been...I think he lived top of Elm/Birch grove?

Posted by: whups (2285)  Report abuse
his name was len callow.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Does anyone know what the problem was with him? Did he not any nose at all, I'm just curious..Being little back then I was always scared of him...fear of the unknown..

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Don,t think downhall green is the same anymore glad i lived there back then, it was diffrent them days but i suppose nothing stops the same.


Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I moved there in 1948 when I was 4, it was a great place to grow up...

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Here's your Downall Green Coat of Arms for you to savour!

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Hi Greener and Janet,
As you know Janet I've lived in Downall Green for 50 out of my 60 years and there are big changes.
Just to name a few of the changes, the Church, I think plays a big part. No Walking Days, no choir to speak of and I'm not being disrespectful to the people who are in the choir at the moment, if there still is a choir. No Church hall, has been sold off, therefore no womens classes and no concerts.
There are no small industries anymore.The likes of Millingford Engineering, Cromptons and the works that followed Cromptons on the old site, such as Pilkington's garage.
The S & S club has long since disappeared and the Legion grounds.
I think what I am coming around to say is that, the places where people used to meet up, whether at work, play or socially, have gone, replaced by housing developments.

Just an observation.

Erwick

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Well i think it is so sad,I never knew that there was no Jelly Sundays anymore and that the Hall had been sold off.

I think it started to go down hill years ago when the Vicar David Abbott arrived.Any body agree with me.

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
You're not wrong, Trixie.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I remember when he came,the Rectory was to cold for him and they built him a new house but it was to close to the school yard.!!!!

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Downall Green isn't a patch on what it used to be...I didn't know about the Hall being sold and no Jelly Sunday.
All the money it cost to build him that new Rectory when there was a beautiful Rectory already there..

There is nothing left of the Downall Green I grew up in....Very sad..

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi everybody i remember len callow he lived with the rigbys on birch grove he was a charachter. when were kids we used to ask himm why he had no nose.he told us he was fighting natives in jungle and one through a spear and took it straight of .and then he said a bee got up and eatenhis nose.and we believed himbeing kids .later he went in a homeand had a false nose put on and i did not recognise him .but all this about downall green not being the same its not but they cant take away our memmories i will always call my slf a greener.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
The vicar David Abbott also want,s the grave yard closed,and wanted the church demolished.he decided there would be no more walking days and when someone on the commitee asked to use a banner and walk with the children from rectory school they were told NO.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Hi bert, the Rigby's, couldn't remember their name, he did live with them..they were quite a big family weren't they?

One story I remember hearing about the Rigby's was when Mrs Rigby was having one of her children, and babies were born at home then, it seems the other children were let go in the room and watch the birth. In those days, child birth, like sex and the 'big C' were things no one talked about.. so it caused quite a stir to have the children in the room to watch....True story, I don't know, but one that went around...

Re: the vicar David Abbott.. he should have been sent packing quick style..he was no man of God, he sounds like a dictator..

Like you bert, I'll always be a D Greener, even though I live so far away..but I do have the most wonderful memories of growing up there..

Sorry greener, forgot to say Hi and thanks for your input...

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Hi jouell remember going in Rigby's house once they were all sat on orange boxes with a big roaring fire,must have burned all the furniture to keep warm.


Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
greener, they would have been better off burning the orange boxes, but..... There were a lot of poor people in DG then, most families were poor, some just poorer than others..But seeing as none of us had cars, telephones or Tvs, us children didn't know how poor we were, as we didn't know much of what was what outside DG..

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I remember when my daughter went to get married she went to Rectory School and was confirmed there and attended Sunday School but he was new then but he upset her so much she ended going to St Peters.
They thought he would only last 12 months,but his skin must be very thick,i think he got a few followers ,inviting him for tea etc.
My neighbour Mrs Green as most of you will have known, went there for years but stopped going through him.
As far as i can remember about the Hall,it was payed for by parisioners ,so who sold it And who does the money go to?
Anybody know?

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Not a man of God.. Mrs Green was a lovely lady, and pictures of her can be seen on many yrs worth of walking day pictures..So for her to stop going, he must have been something else....

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes and her funeral service was held at St Peters.and a lovely service it was too there was a tea +cakes afterwards in the vestry.as she requested.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
The money from the sale of the hall aprox 90,000 was used for the alterations, and provide toilet facility.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
In the church i should have said

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
greener, do you still live in Downall Green?

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Who is Greener Janet? do you know?

Posted by: PeterP (6017) Report abuse
My wifes grandad was choir master at rectory church many years ago(albert Sharples).We where married in 1975 at the rectory also our eldest boy was christened there in 1978 even thou we lived in the parish of st peters bryn.when we came to have our youngest christened at the rectory we where told no chance go to your own parish church st peters which we did .George Rigby was my uncle on my mothers side could not tell you how many of the kids are still alive

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Anyone remember George having a push bike with a motor fasted at the back of his seat about 1952/3 if I remember right George lived in Elm Ave in the 40/50s before moving to Birch Grove

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
the only ones of the rigbys who are left are richard and kevin i met the at a party we was invited to i am not sure about how they died but they live at earlstown and have been for a long time.kevin had been very ill when i spoke to them

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i remember george driving the three wheeled wagon delivering parcels for the railway.had some good times at thier house when we were young could write a book about them.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
No bentlegs I don't know who greener is..I figure if he remembers Rigby's, he's probably my age, roughly.. Maybe bert knows, he seems to know everybody, eh bert......

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
no sorry cant think who he is .perhapshe will give us a clue.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
geez bert, that was quick....I haven't a clue and as I've said before, I'm bad with names, it's faces I remember....

How're you doing bert? hope you are well..

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi jouell im fine keep plodding on go for a spine op next month but not worried just a simple op .not seen your roy for awhile since he moved used to live near me .

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Good luck next month bert..

Roy moved away , don't remember now, 5-6 years ago? first to Wales then across the Channel..

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
i think one of rigbys became a police constable, not to sure on name maybe richard.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i dont think it was richard it may have been bernard he was in the army for a long while.

Posted by: erwick (125) Report abuse
Hi Bert,
Speaking of Rigby's, do you know what happened to Francis Rigby?
He was in the same class as me at Rectory, but I haven't seen nor heard from him in a long long time.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Hi joull no i don't live on Downall green anymore moved in 1960's who am i you ask , let me just say i am one of you a Downall greener. It is intresting reading about the old village life and the stories of the people through the past generations.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Hi greener, I only asked if you still lived in DG..I didn't ask who you are..someone asked me if I knew, I said 'no', but maybe bert knew..he said he didn't, so you're idenetity is safe...

I do agree reading about everyones memories and stories about DG is very interesting...

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Sorry Jouell wasnt having a go at you i wasnt affended at people asking who i am its quite funny trying to play the guessing game, i have the advantage of knowing all of you. I guess someone will sus me eventually. Lets get back to the topic of Downall Green, regarding shops in the village does anyone remember the toffee shop on Leyland Green Rd. this is the only one thats never been mentioned.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
greener, I don't remember names well at all, but if you told me who you were, would I know you?

As for the toffee shop, in my earlier yrs, the only places on L G rd, was the row of terraced houses on your right as you came up the brow, then the row of council houses on your left, the old pop place then the farm at the top..but I don't remember a toffee shop.. Nurse Nuttall used to sell cigs from her house..but not toffee..I'm stumped..

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
There was a toffee shop at the junction of Booths Brow road, Rectory road, and LG road. It was at the opposite end of the row of terraced houses to where the chippy once was. Is it that one that you are meaning?

Greener: You say that you have the advantage of knowing all of us. Somehow, I dont think that you know who I am...As far as I am aware, theres only Trixie, Dougie, and Bert on here that do...

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
your trying to throw us off sent I would say you can't remember the shop in the middle of the terace houses you would have to be in your very late 70s its interseting
thou, two sisters had the shop Bet & Dolly but I only remember the Shaws living in it as a house latter, tell the parson that give you the question they would know my family

Posted by: PeterP (6017) Report abuse
When the Quaker pit was open in which direction did they mine coal?About 30yrs ago when pumping water out of the mine they exposed at least 2 mineshafts along Leyland Green Road and I also remember sink holes appearing in the field behind Birch Grove which at the time was put down to shifting sand.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
ppnw 38817, In the 50s there were two mine shafts on the left hand side going from D G to Winstaley rd, they were quite near to the house on the corner but that land was outcropped ,they didn't go as far as the shafts but what happened to the brick walls round the shafts , i don't know, maybe they have been filled, like i said the land running level with Birch Grove was outcropped,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Now you've said that about the shop Dougie,I vaguely remember hearing something about it..it must have been my Dad..I know he was born and lived in Cox Lump and Doe Ridings until moving to D G..But he used to tell us stories of him coming to D G as a young boy to play and explore...

Since I was over in England last year, I have found out that my Great Great Grandmother was born in D G..Her name was Mary Barton, daughter of Thomas Barton and Mary Ashurst.
So maybe he went to D G to visit and see family too..


Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
uncle joe i meant the people i had been speaking to recently, are the ones that are familiar, and yes thats the shop Dolly's.Yes jouell you do know me. You never know Dougie i may be in my late 70's.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi greener can i ask if you have a neighbour called terry.i dont remember the shop on leyland green rd.was it were shaws had the pen.i remember the one what sudworths had but thats on rectory rd.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
mmm! I guess I'll have to try figure out who you are greener..for now I haven't a clue...

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi erwick francis and richard are the same person he had two names and he lives in earlstown.

Posted by: suesa (525) Report abuse
Ha-ha Uncle Joe. Don't forget that I know who you are too

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
OK greener your not in your late 70s I know that now, but in the 1960s did you leave downall green because you got married as I left in 1963 for that reason

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Do i know you greener?

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
Suesa: sssh! its supposed to be secret!

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I thought you'd gone on another of your holls, trixie?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Next Thursday.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Oh ok.. I guess we'll see you in here for a few more days then.. In the meantime, we'll all be trying to figure out who greener is...bet he's having a good laugh..

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
You can let me know if you find out.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I don't have a clue trixie. maybe someone will figure it out before too long, we'll wait and see..

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Bert no i did'nt have a neighbour called terry. the shop was in the row were Cissie Deluse Hodsons and Naylors lived.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Cissie was another DG character.. there was no harm in her,( although I do remember what people thought, true or not I don't know, she dressed very different than all the other women in DG, maybe some were just jealous.. Her son Ronnie was always a nice lad..

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Cissie was a great caracter.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
dougie no i did'nt leave for that reason, i remember two families being evicted around 1960's times were tough them days.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi greener i remember three being evicted .two in hawthorn ave or maybe threein hawthorn and one in birch grove.you werent one of them were you.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Quote-Her son Ronnie was always a nice lad..and still is Jouell, I do see him from time to time but he lives in Haydock now, anyone no anything about Tommy Armstrong these days lived in the house across from the terraced houses



Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
One of the families that were evicted in Hawthorn were the Turners who lived next door to us at no.17 I remember their furniture piled up at the front. They had about 4 kids Keith,John,Janet and a baby. The dad Len had a bad temper and used to hit his wife Olive.I wonder what happened to them.
I think another family that were evicted were the Hobsons.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi jonday yes they were two families the other family wre collingwoods wholived at the top next to curly shaw.i went to my brothers last week and asked him about ronnie lawton he lives near him he told me ronnie was in a wheel chair before he died i did not know.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
dougie i see ronnie round bryn regular hardly changed after all these years.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
The Hobsons lived next door to us,my Mother had the kids in every jelly sunday for there tea.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I had heard not too long ago that Ronnie lived in Bryn..The last time I saw Ronnie was about 20 years ago, I was over in England, me, my husband, Mam and Dad had gone to the Stag in Garswood and saw Ronnie and his wife there and spent the evening with them..Lovely people...

Tommy Armstrong lives over here, I think Arizona, he used to be a commercial pilot, now I think he trains pilots..I spent the afternoon with his sister Irene when I was over last year..that's how I know..

Bert, next time you see Ronnie, will you please tell him hello from me...

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
Bert, I remember Dougie Collingwood but I didn't know they were evicted.
I believe Ronnie Lawton had some sort of spinal problem.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Thanks Jouell--Tommy was a good friend at Downall Green school so was David Hobson and Berts sister so we would all be 70 now

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
You're welcome dougie.. I hadn't seen or heard of any of the Armstrongs in 50 yrs, until I saw Irene last year.. We had a lot of catching up to do..

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtingle, If its the ronnie i think it is he lives in Jannet Hey, not sure who you mean,
Another family who were thrown out were Bungy & his wife The Midnight Moggy From Popular Ave not far from you,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
bentlegs, it was Cissies Ronnie I was talking about and I assumed dougie was talking about the same...

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Right Janet, He does live in Jannet Hey, not Haydock as Douggie thought.

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
I can still remember Bungy's kids playing..on the roof of their house! Does anyone remember the name of the family that used to live in there before them?

To ask a question that I did earlier that never got answered. Are any of the current residents of the houses that we lived in on here? Does anyone know? Oh, and how mwnay of us were actually born in the house we lived in, and not hospital?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
Yes Joe i was born 386 Bolton Road Stubshie.
Not Downall Green though.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I wasn't, but my two youngest brothers were...

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Born in Garswood or Senley green as they like to call it now,

Posted by: suesa (525) Report abuse
I was born at 90 Rectory Road.The row between the church and Booths Brow Road. Houses were demolished quite a while ago and a detached house built on the land.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i was born in billinge probably because there was two of us i remember the youngs because tommy and kitty were characters sadly raymond commited suicide a few years ago..

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Bert no we didn't get evicted from Downall Green but always thought would end up going back their,but not any more would hardly know anyone. The youngs moved to bryn or should i have said bungy's.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I bet Tonker knows who you are.

He knows everybody.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Bungy was moved to Landgate to wreck another house or his kids did,

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
I know absolutely loads of people, from all over the place!

I knew Ray bungy too. And Colin.

It's funny how some people think they live in Downall Green, when they actually live in Bryn, in Downall Green Road!

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
tonker you didn't say if you knew greener or not..do you?

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Greener? Naaaaah. Neeeeeeeeeeever heard of him!

Posted by: uncle joe (615) Report abuse
You even know me, Tonker! (and I'm still waiting for that drink!)

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
bentlegs bungy's moved to Bryn backs then on to Langate.jouell remember Tonker ran the little of licence at the bottom of soughers lane. Has anyone heard abought the pharmacy at Downall Green being haunted.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
greener,I remember an Off License at the bottom of Soughers Lane, but I never went in and I don't know tonker..Do you know tonker?

I know I've been gone a long time, but when did Chemist's start being called Pharmacy's ? and I don't remember one being in D G either..

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
It's a centre for St Helens, Doctors surgery & Chemist, did you notice a new large building at the bottom of Birtch Grove But on Billinge rd,

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I haven't been down that end for years..Last time I was that way, there was football field, I think a small playground and a club house for the football.. When did they start calling Chemist's, Pharmacy's ?

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I remember Jean+ her sister Mabel had a flower shop at bottom of soughers lane next to off licence.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Trixie, Tonker had that Off Licence about 6 or 7 years ago, It was called the Bottle Stop.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I was talkin about at least 20+ years ago.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi greener did you mate with my brother gordon when you were young.and i apologise if i was wrong about the eviction but thats what i was told.have i twigged who you are.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
He could have been there 20 years Trixie.He finished work in 1986,

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
I bought that place before I left Parkside. Jean Evans had the flower shop there and finished in 1986.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
see jean evans regularly at sainsburys in a wheel chair with husband john. had trouble with her legs.mabel died a few years ago.good friends with my wife.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
I knew Jean +Mabel well they lived at the end near Levertons Mabel in the Bungalow Jean next door.
I used to go to the flower shop often.

That makes it 20+ years as i said.
Nowt wrong wi my memory.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
I,ve seen you so your not the invisible man as coming off afternoon shift from Reeds I would sometimes call in for a couple of cans when I wasn't calling for a pint

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
jouell suppose it does sound rather posh pharmacy coming from an owd greener, wid beter stick wi chemist. Bert no i didn't mate with your Gordon you've not got there yet.Also do you remember when the two family's were evicted it was on local T.V.?

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
It's nothing to do with being posh, I've never heard a Chemist being called anything else other than Chemist..I thought I'd missed something with you calling it a Pharmacy.....

Do you still live in the Wigan area greener?

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
jouell never mind lets get back to the origional question which was has anyone heard about the chemist!!! at Downall Green being haunted, all the staff were terrified and wanted something doing about it,items were being moved and thrown around. Things seemed to be worse when a young male member of staff was around.

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
Does anybody remember when there were only gas lamps on the streets of the estate and not many of those. Very dark evenings during the winter months ,but we still felt safe walking the streets in those days. We weren't afraid of no ghost.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I remember the gas lamps and the gas lamp lighter coming round on his bike to light the lamps... There was one across from our house...
Does anyone remember when the bus stop used to be across from our house, when it used to go up Leyland Green Rd, not down Rectory rd? When it was raining, we used to very often find people in our front porch to keep dry whilst waiting for the bus...

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Jouell asked, "Do you still live in the Wigan area greener"?


Actually, Jouell, Downall Green has never been in the 'Wigan area'.
It's in the Ashton in Makerfield area, and is now part of St.Helens.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi greener, where was this chemist it sounds interesting.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Oh you are such a nit picker tonker.. Alright, I'll do it your way.... not that you'll answer it greener, but do you still live in the Ashton-in-Makerfield area, that is part of St Helens and if not there do you live within a 10 mile radius of DG?...

Posted by: rbilly (10576) Report abuse
i know the turners very well ..they moved to blackburn mum and dad know have both died . but all the family are doing well there are 6 of them 3 girls and 3 boys

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Yeah Jouell i do still live in Ashton-in-Makerfield. By the way the word pharmacy is wrote in big bold letters above the door of the chemist at Downall Green, obviously youve been away to long. Bambam the chemist is the one built on the playing fields at the back of Birch Grove, not far from were you used to live, apparently they have had to have the rector go in there and do what ever they do.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
greener,I posted on Oct 12th that I hadn't been down that way in years..Last time I was that way, there was a football field, playground and a small building I was told belonged to the football.. " Pharmacy " ..why can't England stay English and stop it with all the American words. so annoying..and I have been away for far too long

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Pharmacy is Latin, not American. Americans call it a 'Drug Store'!

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
I've lived here 35 years.. and all I've ever heard it called is pharmacy.. In the yellow pages they go under pharmacy.. in big stores like Wal Mart, Walgreens and such were they sell other stuff aside from medicines, the chemist part is called pharmacy... So the word pharmacy is Latin, but what England calls a Chemist, here is called pharmacy..sheesh!!!!! it's too blessed early in the morning to be dealing with you having a go at me....

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi greener are you one of the collingwoods i dont remember them only dougie he was older than me.and the pharmicy is on billinge rd. i heard the other night that the bell is haunted and had a tunnel underneath to the church .is it true ive been told twice.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bert, i heard that bell was haunted some years ago the reason being the vault was a morgue in the olden days.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Bert--if their is Rector Hall made it as a short cut

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
No bert not one of the collingwoods, your not even luke warm. As for being a mourge bambam its not much different now haha. Your right Duggie Rector Hall enjoyed a few jars at the back of the door.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
When Rector Hall died his coffin was kept in the church overnight and a vigil was held by locals from the village these included Tommy Aspinall and Miles Frodsham.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
someone must have told you he liked a pint, did you know Miley or just as a person

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
I think everyone knew Tommy and Miley.

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
i remember miley very well he lived a couple of doors away from us. used to mate with his son robert who sadly was killed in a road accident.rector hall liked a little tot of whisky .he was the fastest man in downall green as the service ended in church he beat everybody to the bell.lovely man.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Miley was a rum begger, had some laughs with him when he was the steward at the S&S club,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
miley was a gent as i remember, like you say bentlegs he was a rum lad.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtingle-- I was meaning like you just said when I asked the question (did you know Miley or just as a person)as you know we knew Miley from his working days down pit and the way he was with his friends day after day,I did part of my face training with him in the 50s

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
bert i remember the accident robert was driving the van it rolled over and went down a revine ending up on it's roof in the water. Sadly Robert was killed but his three work mates survived

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Tumtell.There are a few stories about Miley that he told us his self, He was a few bob short in his wages when he handed his paypacket over to his wife & she wanted to know why, He told her he had a bag of road nails & a landing stopped out of his wages, i think she believed him, you remember Andy Spratt the cutter man on regular nights? His wife had been asking him to paint the kitchen for weeks & he kept putting it off, One morning when he got home from work he sat down at the table waiting for his breakfast & Annie his wife put a plate in front of him with a tin of paint& a paint brush, people reading this may not understand the first part unless you worked down the pit, Duggie will explain if your curious,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Tumtingle--remember Andy coming in the club one afternoon and saying he could stick a pint to the ceiling without holding it,anyway a bet was made so Andy got one of the round tables and a chair placing it in the middle of the room, got the pint off the bar walked to the chair and got on the table with the pint holding the pint to the ceiling and looking round Tommy Collier said what looking for Andy, sumut howd it up wi saying Tommy pass me that snooker queue Andy put the thick end under the glass and said to Tommy howd this till a get down he did so, Andy moved the table and chair and saying told you i could stick a pint to the ceiling without holding it theirs one born ever minute, Tommy tried to catch it as it fell and got pi---d wet throw

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
the best thing about miley i remember was he fell out with his wife. she said she was leaving and left him a note which she signed mrs bloody neverwheel chaufed deeuth frodsham.bob showed us it us all.

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
bert do you remember the mad axe man from Downall Green ?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
do you mean him who held his wife and kids hostage..

Posted by: greener (36) Report abuse
Yes that's the one also smashed a few police cars that night, barricaded the family in what used to be miley and olive's house.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
On the General thread..wiganyankeeron is asking for info on the Vicar at Trinity..I don't know anything, can any of you help?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
yes greener i knew him well and have done for a long time. he had a bad time with mental health problems but he is very well last time i spoke to him.

Posted by: ralfus (6) Report abuse
Hi Bert do you think that you know me. I think that Tumtingle or Tumtell might know me

Posted by: tonker (18932)   Report abuse
Com esta la teva ass per caps negre, Ralph?

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
I ralfus, I am sure both of us know you, first time i have known you to post on here, you OK?

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi ralfus do you live near my mate chissy.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Remember Ralfus when Wigan World was lqqk ? you told me about it & in all that time you have only just posted,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
He will be back Tumgingle , just having a bit of trouble with his computer give him time

Posted by: bert (590) Report abuse
hi dougie isit whom i think it is .and as anyone found out who greener is.

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
bert, I don't have a clue who greener is..I must say I don't much like someone knowing who I am, when I don't know who they are.

Posted by: jondav (98)  Report abuse
Come clean Greener.

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Come on Greener, Let us know who you are,

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
Iv'e just put a photo on Holly Trinity Rector, Can anyone put names to the ladies, My mother is 4th from the left back row. It's on Assorted,& on album,

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
Two old Downer greeners collecting in Asda today, Stan Sudworth(90)and Tommy Atherton(85) if you see them anywhere tell them you've seen their photo

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi bentlegs, may i ask you about tommy hilton is he still with us, he was a good friend of my father gerry they both drove coaches in sixties and seventies.

Posted by: micky east (inactive) Report abuse
sweet lord how big is downall green does every resident hold an acc on here!!!

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi micky, you won't be far off wrong there pal lol .

Posted by: jouell (4330) Report abuse
Downall Green was a great place to live and a whole lot of great peolpe living there...

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi jouell, i agree with you there having spent most of my life being brought up on the estate, i met and knew all the famalies at the time, and met some great people some of which i keep intouch with on this wonderful thread, i still have fantastic memories of the people of the village both past and present, it was certainly a wonderful place to have spent most of my years, if my wife wasn't so happy where we are now i reckon i get a little closer to my old roots. .

Posted by: bentlegs (4172) Report abuse
BamBam, Our Tommy is still going strong, He drives part time for First Bus Taking kids to school & picking the up in the Afternoon, he turned 70 in July, I will tell him you have been asking about him,
I knew your dad very well, we played together when we lived in Station Rd, Nice chap.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Thanks for that bentlegs, im so glad tommy is still going strong, i remember him well as i was growing up on d-green and brockstedes, if i am not mistaken i remember his coach being parked in coronation st he was driving for unsworths at that time.

Posted by: maz1976 (72)   Report abuse
Helllo everyone,

Not been on here for a long time as facebook took over, but now got rid of it and got me life back. Bet you all forgot me now lol.
If anyone remembers me i am a very proud ex downallgreener and i was living in Dubai, i have now come back as i miss good old wigan...you can take the girl away from wigan but you cant take wigan out the girl haa.
You probably know my dad more than me Brian Halliwell.If anyone knows me would be nice to hear from you.

Posted by: dougie (3545)  Report abuse
I remember you but only off here nice to see you back, I've said before knew your dad all my life, plus all his family before he got married but I wouldn't know you

Don't forget the END key Maz plus anyone else

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hi maz, i remember you hope your keeping well, i knew your father very well to had many a pint with him and lillian simm, good old days.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Hey whups, have ya seen them pictures on album of smiths coaches, do they bring back memories or nightmares, i remember when coach pulled up to take em to pit most of em was hiding behind bell door.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
What year did you work at Eckersley's Bambam?
I worked there for a while in 60's.

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
oh trixie, well before my time that love i started there in 1977 and was there when it closed doors in 1988, how can someone as young as you have worked there in 60s.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
It must have bin child labour,

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
Ha ha love that one trixie, where's thi mate lanky not heard from her lately.

Posted by: trixie (4860)   Report abuse
She's busy playin games on facebook.

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