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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Trying to help you upload OLD photo's, on North Ashton site,

-Click North Ashton top of page, Upload your photos (left side)-
1--Places,
2--North Ashton,
3--Drop down box saying upload your photo's,
4--Choose a Photo click upload, Publish should see in box
5--Fill in Name, photo title, something about photo,
6--At bottom put code in, click Publish again

---GOOD LOOK IF YOU TRY, it's just the same only ASHTON,





Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 17:13
Last edited by dougie: 12th May 2020 at 08:43:20

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Nice one Dougie, I always use gel with a real wilkinson razor, nowt gets closer than that.

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 17:16
Last edited by bambam: 8th May 2020 at 08:32:31

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

My misleading clue--bentlegs is still doing it at 84 bet he wished he could stop

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 17:27

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Happy New Thread!

Anyway, "My clue--bentlegs is still doing it at 84 bet he wished he could stop"

At a guess, Dougie -- Knocking it's neck in?

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 17:57
Last edited by tonker: 27th Apr 2020 at 18:03:40

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks tonker, how are you finding lockdown.

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 18:03

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Well, I wake up every morning - and it's still there. So I go back to sleep!
The bad tghing is, I'm getting used to it!

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 18:05

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Apart from not socialising in the boozer with all the old loveable regulars I'm same as yourself, I don't mind the quiet streets when travelling to and from work but I must admit the shopping side gets to me I think people are still stocking, I myself just get what I need then I'm off leaving queues in my wake.

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 18:20

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Good answer but not right, give a clue to the link to make others think,thats if you've looked

Money is the root of all eval so they say and it seems that's whats keeping you going, I had packed in at your age that was 20 years ago

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 19:02

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Talking about shaving Dougie, when my wif's dad died, and we cleared his place in St.Annes out, there was box upon box of
"Bob Norburn Shaving Cream". There must've been a thousand jars of it, with a big wad of labels ready to be stuck on the jars.
I didn't think anything of it and simply left it there, along with most of the other stuff. Now I find it sells for over £18 for 100ml!

Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 19:08

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Well that was a big flop I tried it on DG 10 to see if I could get a bit of movement on the thread, then bambam opened DG 11 so I uploaded on here instead that's also been a flop, don't see why I should leave the photo on



Replied: 27th Apr 2020 at 20:58
Last edited by dougie: 30th Apr 2020 at 07:19:58

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

O.K. lads lets try this one,--as young lads on the estate everything had to be passed down from the older lads, I remember to this day a place you could find them, Ernie-nuts anyone remember the place and how you would find them bet you could still find them there

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 07:03

Posted by: bert (680)

On school field going into Dell, we used get them .and they were good.brings back memories that Dougie.

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 11:55

Posted by: bert (680)

HI Dougie is that other question ,repeating him self.because my wife has started moaning ,in
m always doing it.

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 12:04

Posted by: alan85 (66) 

Just been rooting through my storage cupboard, lo and behold, I have come across my late father in laws old Rolls Razor. I suppose I could get rid of it on eBay.

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 12:21

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Bert didn't know abut the Dell but we had a good supply elsewhere,

is that other question,repeating him self, NO

said At a guess, Dougie -- Knocking it's neck in? NO

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 12:41

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

talking about Ernie nuts we used to dig for them up the Turpin going from Garswoood to the entrance to the Mulks Wood,& like bert said they were good, i wonder what the correct name is, I bet Tonker doesn,t know.

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 13:37

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

thanks again Bambam,

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 13:39

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

waiting for Jouell to come back,Told her to contact Ron,

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 13:57

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

For anyone that doesn't know what to look for they have a small carrot like leaf about 1" in size, on a thick well established grassed area by a wooded area the Dell,Turpin, Sharpell pen going to DG wood, you just peel the sod back they are just under the surface, always remember to replace the sod for the next time, can only add they are lovely

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 14:30

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Here y'are, Dougie and Bentlegs!


PS: Dougie, what're you sayin'? Bentlegs won't be still knockin' it's neck in at his age!

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 18:16
Last edited by tonker: 28th Apr 2020 at 18:21:54

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

not telling Tonker

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 20:40

Posted by: gaffer (6406) 

Are they ground nuts Dougie?

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 21:02

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Yes they are can't find the name are any resemblance of them Keith,

The link as no resemblance to Ernie-nuts as we call them as its not a nut its a seed, in fact it tells you there are very few nuts as most are edible seeds with a hard shell round, a horse chestnut is a true inedible seed, and to be very careful when eating any under ground seed as they could kill you, even the Blue Bell could be mistaken for a edible nut when dried out, we have eaten hundreds of ernie-nuts and would do again

we'll aft tec thi eet some tim un shw thi a thig ur tw abt livin ont land, lik thud uns shwd us

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 21:27
Last edited by dougie: 28th Apr 2020 at 21:30:46

Posted by: gaffer (6406) 

Dougie when I was a lad we used to go picking them in Bluebell wood not far from Bill Hockey’s farm house ( surname Hodgkinson).

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 22:06

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

"Are they ground nuts Dougie"?

"can't find the name are any resemblance of them Keith"


READ THE LINK I SENT YOU ! ^ ^ ^ ^

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 22:07

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Why I'am in isolation hope you don't mind me uploading things to pass the time, these two photos may be of interest to the people that live at the top Rectory Road and going down the Brow in the new houses, thats just been built they may not have seen them before, I remember them from 1940s going to school

Back Jem,Rachal,Oliv,Harold,Robert Ryder


Kevin,Brent,& Sue Atherton, Brian Hardman

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 22:21
Last edited by dougie: 30th Apr 2020 at 21:30:03

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I've looked All the way through if YOU, Bert, or Tumtingle, finds any resemblance to the Ernie-nut we are talking about, I will give JW four cans so next time he's at your house both of you can have a drink,

P.S. If I give him them he will have to call round with his wife, its my way of punishment for the stick you've give me LOL

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 22:36
Last edited by dougie: 28th Apr 2020 at 22:42:35

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Give 'em to Bentlegs then. He's not gettin' away wi'it!

Replied: 28th Apr 2020 at 23:28

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

gaffer I think May have been brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth not like us by the scruff of the neck, he would have known about Ernie-nuts and how and where to find them, like I've said before everything was passed down both good & bad, remember before the outcropping you had to go through the farmyard over two railway sleepers in to the wood, I bet you even remember the field drain pipe where we could get lovely cool water to drink

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 14:59

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

The second photo tumtingle, I think Barney (Brian Davis) is on the left hand side,







Tumtingle, in the second photo the boy on the leftlooks very much like Brian (Barny)Davis, he was born there in booths Brow Rd,He sadly died in 1963.







T

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 15:13
Last edited by bentlegs: 30th Apr 2020 at 14:45:20

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

Regarding the Ernie nuts they can only be Ground nuts

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 15:16

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Hello everyone, Peter Jones here just registered on site, looking forward to some memories with you all. Know Brian ( whups and think bam bam is Davy Lewis)

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 15:51

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Regarding the Ernie nuts they can only be Ground nuts

Yes Tumtinle they are from the ground we all except that but nothing I found in link helps in anyway, show me some things like a photo of one as we know what they should look like,--Look here--everything you need to know about Nuts & Seeds

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 17:42

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Here you go, Dougie ...... take your pick!

Pignuts 1

Pignuts 2

Pignuts 3

Pignuts 4

Pignuts 5

Pignut Plants

Pignuts!

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 18:42

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I would say number Two the most likely one it's good enough for me, but if I get the chance I'll go have a look at them

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 19:04

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hello peter, welcome to wiganworld not seen you in a long time but so glad you've joined us, hope you are ok I have always asked about you since I left the estate you will know many people on here it's good keeping in touch with all the people you grew up with, I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 20:22

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Cheers David looking forward to it.

Replied: 29th Apr 2020 at 20:31

Posted by: whups (4697) 

so the carpet has arrived . hope we have some good banter pey .

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 00:00

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Welcome Peter.i presume you have a sister Anne.i went to school with her.

Think you are younger than her?

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 07:36
Last edited by trixie: 30th Apr 2020 at 07:38:17

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Than's BamBam for changing the wording on the top page

Why on I would like to ask all Greene-rs And Ex-Greene-rs how do they fell about a Ram-Sammy when all this lock down is over in the Presidential, Bolton Road, Ashton, I'm coming to my 80th Birthday soon it would have to be a date in the future I sergest a Monday afternoon @ 1.00pm mid June we should be getting the all clear hopefully by then, I would buy everyone the first pint obviously it wouldn't be for my birthday just an excuse for a meet-up and a chat, meet new friends, Talk of the past, Remembering people we had forgotten about, how knows what will come up

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 08:07
Last edited by dougie: 30th Apr 2020 at 21:05:16

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I'm up for it Dougie let's get it moving

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 08:24

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I remember the last Ram Sammy I had with you and a few more off here.
But yes I think if only one or two turned up it would still do us good to mix with old friends, also if people say they are working and can't make it during the week there's always Saturdays and Sunday afternoons for a hour or so

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 09:01

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Great idea dougie wish I could be there.
I will try but cannot plan that far ahead yet.

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 10:50

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I enjoyed the one at garswood hall met quite a few people that day, also had a good drink I met jouell when she was over also spoke to peterp, would love bump into bentlegs and a few more I'm sure we can arrange a date.

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 11:37

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

".... I would buy everyone the first pint ...."

I think I might be in Ashton that day, Dougie!

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 11:42

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

Tonker, The pig Nuts you show on the photo,s the do look like Ernie nuts +the foliage, Thas cracked it lad Thi the Pigs Bollocks.

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 14:24

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

I should have a free pint off Dougie, for puttin' him reet!
J.W. says I've no chance, cos Ill have pissed Dougie off a bit, because he was convinced that Pignuts are only found in Downall Green!

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 14:52

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Only admitting to this, "I would buy everyone the first pint", remember I can't take it with me and I did work at Reeds for 40 years, as far as I know you have never been to a WW meet-up but this is different so you would be more than welcome to turn up if your in town.

PS I'll send you Mate and his wife up with the cans Heeeee LOL

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 14:54
Last edited by dougie: 30th Apr 2020 at 14:58:08

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

To celebrate my 40 years they gave me £800, I made continental breakfast in the Canteen one Friday morning from 8.30am, followed by lunch in the Wheatley at end of shift, as I was the first man to do 40 years service at Reeds Wigan asked the works Manager was he making it up to a £1.000 as all the sift were going across the road for a bonding session after work, I was putting £200 over the bar for drinks if you say no look on the notice board later, he did give an extra £100 making £300 for drinks. bar man started playing funny buggers but we soon shut him up

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 15:28
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Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Now then Brian u ok, trixie yes Anne is my sister lives in St Helens, do I know you ?

Replied: 30th Apr 2020 at 16:19

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

pjones900, I am Ex-Greener before the estate was built, then lived on estate from new you don't have answer but Yes or No will do, if I get 2 out of 3 Yes's, I know your family as I lived on the other side of the island, know of whups as we shared the same uncle,

1 did You or your Dad live a end house ---,
2 have You a Brother or Dad about 80 ---,
3 did Your Granddad or Dad clean windows---,

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 09:16

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Hi Dougie,yes we lived in the end house on Poplar Ave, had 2 brothers Allan & Billy sadly both passed away. Dad (Benny ) was a window cleaner for a spell. Would I remember you?

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 11:37

Posted by: whups (4697) 

peter dougies sister married my uncle jonnie & you,ll know their lad john who knocked around with phil taylor & if you can remember they came on a lancs darts trip to london with me . just to let you know that phils mother philis taylor who lived on lilac ave has just passed on .

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 11:45

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Brian i remember John & phil. Sorry to hear about another death on the estate. I remember Phyllis.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 12:24

Posted by: bambam (2104)

That's bad news, not seen Phil in years I had many pint with the father Tommy in NAVC, lovely family R.I.P Phyllis.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 12:39

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi peter, may I ask if your Edith is still with us I worked with her at makerfield mill Ashton in 70s.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 12:45

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Phyllis was a friend of my Auntie Bernice for years,
Yes pjones900 I went to school with your Anne.lived across road in Hawthorne Avenue.my cousin still lives in the same house.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 12:46
Last edited by trixie: 1st May 2020 at 12:49:42

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

PJ- Don't think so move off the estate 1963 got married moved to Bryn, you may have been to young anyway will be able to follow the chat help me join in, think I picked up you must be related to Guylum if so nice chap, been on a few trips with that gang as they got older, well it was them that was always ready to join us for a good day out by this time

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 15:05
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Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Hi Davy yes Edith still with us we dont see much of each other though. Dougie I’d have only been 6 when you left so probably don’t know you but looking forward to the chat. Trixie who’s your cousin ?

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 15:17

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

No not related to Gwylum.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 15:21

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

No not related to Gwylum. Sorry name of his wife please as didn't know her name, wrong again

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 16:11

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Ok Dougie just looking at a post of yours from 2010 downall green to Ashton over mill fields and the railway bridge, used to play over there all the time in the 60s. Brought back nice memories.

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 16:48

Posted by: whups (4697) 

bernice was gwillams wife who sadly passed on a couple of months ago .

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 17:20

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Whups I remembered after posting,

You may have been told when the estate was first built they came from all over the Ashton area to live on the estate, new younger children going to rectory and Our-ladies, older ones had already started secondary schools, boy did they stick together no fighting or bulling between them selves on the estate, they stuck like glue at secondary school helping us new starters settle in as up to 20 off the estate would start after the summer holidays, they would never fight your battle but make sure you did a good job by egging you if you got into one

Replied: 1st May 2020 at 21:37

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie,i may have asked this question before but do you know when the estate was actually built.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 02:55

Posted by: bert (680)

hi Peter i knew your family very well .your Billy used to knock about with us.he was a little bit younger than us ,he was a belting lad .I remem ber going to school bingo at Our Ladies and we won Jackpot and we won three other prizes.we won 27pound 10 shilling,he made me go home to tell your Mam,then they would not think we had been stealing.I also remember your enid getting knocked down.Gpd that was a long time ago.anyhow welcome.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 11:12

Posted by: PeterP (7790)

Bambam type Downall Green estate into search box for your answer

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 11:42

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

As a good guess bam bam I would say 1944 followed by Bryn then Landgate, I would only have been 4 then so don't remember much,y0ur Dad was one of the big lads I talk about and his best mate Jimmy Dean, he's still going strong and still puling me to peace's every time we meet, if we ever get to the Presidential I hope the lads 80+ turn up for everyone to meet them they were a grate bunch ? Have you met the Twins Alf & Jimmy and all their mates

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 12:00

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks peterp, and Dougie , yes I remember Alf and jimmy who lived on corner of island in elm ave also remember their parents, I looked at that photo on north Ashton pics with the lads on but only know Jim & Alf, also remember deans on island my mother & father was always there as I was growing up I know there was quite a few of them.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 12:22

Posted by: whups (4697) 

around 1947 dav.there,s a pic of all of them on downall green in the pics section with them standing outside the bell.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 13:36
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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Cheers Bri, I will take a look at that.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 13:56

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Bri, I remember the people on that pic of 1973, even though I can only name about 14 of them I do recognise them all I was wondering who the little lad is in pedal car, possibly Arthur's grand child jack cunliffes lad, also like the car it looks like an Hillman.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 14:18

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

bambam/whups see why I asked you to put the link for DG photos on the first page and change the wording, the only thing you both did wrong you didn't tell people to look on (page 5.)

You both may know but others may not, if re-fairing to any photo just add page number by clicking the photo it gives some information plus they can add to it

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 14:47
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Posted by: whups (4697) 

dav annie duffy was one of the 1st people on here & she said that there was only 3 houses built when they moved in . it was 1947.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 14:53

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks Bri, where would that be it's a big estate I'm intrigued as to where building started.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 15:00

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Pjones 900.yes Gwilym and John,(sammy).cousins .

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 15:33
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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I don't wont to contradict here and don't know Annie Duffy but she must have the dates wrong as by 1947 there must have been 100 are so living on the estate including us, when she moved on there may only have been three house lived in but not in 1947 thats all i am saying, ? where did she live whups

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 15:41

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Dougie, rectory rd houses where I once lived must be a good age now.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 15:54

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Trixi/BamBam didn't know Sammy but got in his company one day went home pie eyed can't remember could his dad been called Bill D,talk about a Ram Sammy that was one and we where at a really really good friends funeral never seen him since, if anything comes off get him along

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 15:56

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Back in the 1940's, when they started building the Downall Green Estate, all the people in Rectory Road had notices in their front windows ........
"Say NO to Downall Green Development" and
"Hands Off Our Greenbelt"!

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 16:15

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Dougie, rectory rd houses where I once lived must be a good age now.---YES
Can I tell you about the man that lived the house before you Tommy Gregg or maybe next door, He would take bets in the old village club house you may not remember it, not on football or horse racing or anything like that, but on anyone fast-enough to smack his face with two hands,the contestant sat on a two armed chair, he then placed both his forearms on the arms with the hands out stretched Tommy would then place his head on the mans knees between the mans hands no the word go, the man had 1or2 minutes to try to smack Tommy as hard as he wished they say Tommy never lost, others would try the other way round

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 16:45

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, it must of been next door the occupant we followed in there was Jim Jameson who had lived there a lifetime, he was the oldest honorary member of NAVC, we could do with some characters like Tommy today.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 17:09

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I was thinking you lived going up rectory road just after Pies Shop Area, Jimmy Jameson was he the manager of the Co-op across the road, did you live in one of the four going the other way or was it one of the semi's,

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 17:45

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Talking of characters remember Andy Sprat the Dad now he was a character as you may know or may not,

one day he put a small round table in the middle of the dance floor in the village club placed a full pint on it what doing Andy, I'm going outside coming in drink that pint without my feet touching the floor or my hands touching the glass and out again, after a lot of talk,he went outside bang the door opened and in came Andy on all fours walked across pick the glass up with his mouth drunk the beer turn round and went out

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 18:42
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Posted by: ashpad (89)

1947 when Duffys moved in the last house on their side was Spratts on the other sidfe Pownalls was the last the rest were still being built

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 20:13

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

I knew Jimmy Duffy who lived on Wigan Road (540's odd number side) at Bryn and, I think, he'd married a Pownall as the neighbours were related and were Pownalls.

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 21:43

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Proof here if they where built and lived in 1946

Posted by: suesa 27th Apr 2009 at 19:58

I have just been looking at some old family documents and there is a Tenancy Agreement between Ashton Council and my grandparents John & Clara Ward. They were the first family to live in this house (Blue Bell end of Elm Ave)when they were newly built - my cousin still lives in the house. The agreement says they were to move in on 2 Nov 1946, so that gives us an idea as to when this part of the estate was finished.
It is actually named on the papers as Rectory Road Housing Site.


Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 21:58

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Ashpad , did Sprats not live next door to Pjones900 next to the end house in Popular Avenue on the right,at one time

Replied: 2nd May 2020 at 22:14

Posted by: whups (4697) 

annie duffy moved into no3 hawthorn ave in 1947 & lived there until she died & her daughter tracy still lives in that house.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 00:19

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, there is three houses after pye's shop at bottom of rectory rd we lived in end house with the driveway which had access to backs, these houses are on your films from mill farm looking up to rectory rd, next door to us was joe brogan and Chris hurst not sure how long brogan's was there but Chris hurst had been there a long time.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 00:24

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Forgot to mention dougie you probably know brogan's, Dave I believe still has butchers shop at bryn cross, his brother ste and his wife Lynne lived at bryn but sadly are no longer with us.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 00:33
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Morning everyone new to this site had many good days wi bam bam and family back int day when downallgreen was downallgreen all changed now tho but stil great place ps I think Harold hintchcliffe was one of the first on theer and wards

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 09:04

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Whups I understand now your only talking about the top end Hawthorn area, as by 1947 as I said the bottom half of the estate was well established by 1947, if I remember rightly they had even moved the mortar mixer off the croft to the top end, the houses were built with Mortar mixed on site,(crushed cinders, lime, cement, turned out blue-black cant remember them adding sand, Bert well know as it was almost in his back garden

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 10:35

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

bambam That drive was a shortcut from Rectory Road to our house in Popular Ave,
up the drive to the field run along Pye's,Fosters,Club wall we lived top house, also that's the way we went to the Club save walking round, over back garden fence to the wall and onto the Bowling Green

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 11:03
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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Welcome Dagutd27, so glad we got another greener on here I haven't a clue who you are but must obviously know you, I remember Harold hinchcliff (pank) who lived on birch grove and wards, hope you enjoy this thread there is people on here you will know.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 12:21

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, there is a lot of land at rear of pye's shop as a youngster I used to work on pig farm for Regi Lavin who had shop in 70s, he used get his pig food of his relation Arthur Lavin and I used go Arch Lane on Arthur's field to fill bags of rotting potatoes, Regi killed pigs and would have them hanging in shop for people to buy, obviously you wouldn't get away with that today.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 12:30

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Never heard of a jimmy Duffy marrying my side of Pownalls so may have been uncle Joes from stubshaw cross they all lived up there at one time.
Yes my side ( James)moved about in 1947.got a photo of me when they moved in as a young child.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Dagutd27, is your user name short for daener green united I don't know who you are yet, if you tell me street you lived on I will have a guess.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:10

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Trixie, the Duffy I refer to had a daughter Julie and a son John. The Pownalls had a son, Andrew, who worked at Hindley prison?

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:18

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

27 Elm AV and then swapped houses wi Tommy liptrot lilac AV no 11now spindlehillock mi dads name Bill simm and Irene no loads on theer back in day like I say all changed now stay save every body Un good luck

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:23

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

27 Elm AV and then swapped houses wi Tommy liptrot lilac AV no 11now spindlehillock mi dads name Bill simm and Irene no loads on theer back in day like I say all changed now stay save every body Un good luck

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:24

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

27 Elm AV and then swapped houses wi Tommy liptrot lilac AV no 11now spindlehillock mi dads name Bill simm and Irene no loads on theer back in day like I say all changed now stay save every body Un good luck

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:24

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Well bam I cont speak I thought thy would have got me streght away pal how's your mam doing Arthur Martin Tina hope all ok

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 13:54

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Dagutd27, well I know who you are and can't speyk me owe neighbor hope you are ok, Tina lives in America, Arthur's at Abram, Martins in Derby mother lives around corner from me in Wigan she's ok but I don't see my brothers, it's a long time since we was on back of Bedford going under Prescott Street bridge to frog Lane, ha ha good old days we had some fun back then, how's your sisters I used work with pat ain't seen em in years.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 16:26

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

They are all ok David I its a long time pal and going on them fishing trips on your dads coach and running round Croft thinking we were coaches Un wagons they wer good times growing up on dag dust remember shooting Kev Thompson in chest coming out bluebell woods then he shot thee int nose I think guin cross park ps all in good fun he he

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 17:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

They are all ok David I its a long time pal and going on them fishing trips on your dads coach and running round Croft thinking we were coaches Un wagons they wer good times growing up on dag dust remember shooting Kev Thompson in chest coming out bluebell woods then he shot thee int nose I think guin cross park ps all in good fun he he

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 17:19

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Malc,yes I remember when me and Kevin went shooting rats in blue bell and gypsy woods, he was good mate of mine Kevin even though we used to argue when we couldn't find any rats to kill blaming one another as to whose idea it was to have chosen location, we used split up and hunt one another I still full of scars and holes where Kevin shot me, ha ha crazy days I miss the old estate there was some good lads on there and bluebell times when we all met then went into Ashton, do you ever see ste Hayes he was old buddy of mine and derek higham I was sorry to hear Colin had passed on he was another good mate of mine, when all this pandemic is over we will have to ave a pint or two.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 17:43

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dav is your uncle Morris still around and Keith use work wi Keith at Mabeys

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 17:48

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I we will dav Ste lives across road from me in spindlehillock Dek lives in Newcastle comes down every couple wiki to his dad's I his dad's still guin grand chap he is to

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 17:54

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Malc , our Maurice died 1997 our Keith died a couple of years ago, nice to hear about ste and derek, his dad is a nice chap he was in same class as my dad at school.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:01

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Just keep inviting them all too the Ram Sammy bambam the more the merrier , I'll stand everyone a pint how ever many turns up but don't for get to tell Sammy, I had a good afternoon with them when we shouldn't have

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:03

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I am up for that dougie weer at garswoodhall good shout that

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I am up for that dougie weer at garswoodhall good shout that

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:20

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Sorry about Dave I will tell Ste s wife thys been asking about him don't see Ste much is not been to good lately

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:26

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

No the Presidential mid June it was called the Blood Tub when I the in my teens, everyone can get transport get transport to Ashton thats if its sorted by June, only met bambam,& Sammy, once at different times and boy didn't I know about it, seems I will be around your Dads age, as a guess Dad Bill & Mam Elsie just (yes or no) will do

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi Dave what was that stuff your mam used to clean coach with it's still up mi nose today lovely smell and happy day s liptrot or smally from bamforlong red Un white

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Bill Un Irene dougie see you there

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Is wups still in bed

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 19:57

Posted by: priscus (8272)

Dagut27, Did your dad live on Sefton Road back in 1950's & 1960's?

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 20:04

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes dougie, it will be good afternoon if a few turn up I enjoyed last one, whups will be on later malc.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 20:08

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

No don't think so priscus I would say tootle st Bryan at that time probly moved to dag 1960 pal

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 20:12

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Well iam guin off ney Dave good neet watch some telly stay save

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 20:16

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, if a lot of people turn out for us it's going cost you a few bob, maybe tonker will come for his free pint, what dust think.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 21:48

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Don't no, not best of friends at present but I've met harder and nastier people than tonker in my life. if he does come he will be incognito he's a shy sort of chap

The guess I made at dagutd27 Dad,should have been Bill H and his sister Elsie H got mixed up, never knew Bills wife

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 22:42

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, not to sure where his father came from, but his fathers brother jack had pens at back of stubshaw cross labour club,and he lived at brockstedes last time I saw him.

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 22:54

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Awwwww., Dougie's fell out wi'me, so it looks like I'll aft'buy my own pint. And that's after me leaving HIM one at his bowling club. The owd sod's conveniently forgot about that!

Replied: 3rd May 2020 at 22:59

Posted by: whups (4697) 

not gone to bed yet malc & you do know tommy L has passed on .

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Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Tonker.i don’t know them so no idea.
The only John I knew was married to a Doreen Beddows son of Rubin Pownall .lived in Stubshaw cross.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 08:23
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Posted by: dougie (4347) 


Try it out bambam P3, C4, in 2010,
you asked aitch about The Palace cinema



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Posted by: bert (680)

whats going on ,first Peter Jones found us and now Malcolm Simm.and Dougie offering free pints.I think you all need to see a Doctor.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 10:56

Posted by: whups (4697) 

bert peter & malc have been trying for ages to get on here but could,nt .

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 11:23

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Hope you tune up Bert you where part of them that sent me home legless and I had left you for over an hour to see my Brother remember,

P.S Bert He's not one of Whites lads is he

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 11:32
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Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Trixie, I should imagine Bert will know the people I'm on about. I think Julie Duffy used to run Bryn Labour Club?

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 12:03

Posted by: bert (680)

Yes i know Julie Duffy.Her step brother Peter married my sister in law Annete.sadley her father jimmy and her brother John have died,but May her mum is still going strong..she had the labour club for a long time.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 12:44

Posted by: bert (680)

Julie still lives in the house at perry brook where they have lived for years.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 12:50

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

No never heard them names at all.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 12:55

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Trixie, it's all one big happy family round there. You'll find you might be related to Bert and Dougie. Probably!

Bert, didn't Pownalls (?, Margaret, Andrew) live nextdoor to Jimmy Duffy? Or but-one? Across from Phylis.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 14:02

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

This Jimmy Duffy was May is sister or maybe sister-in-law worked at Reeds kept the Saddle at Newtown in the 60s, if so Tonker is going to be right again but it will be Bert I'll be related too,if so 2 pints for you Burt

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 15:37

Posted by: ashpad (89)

Spratts were round the corner from Jones who had the 1st house in Poplar Ave Duffys were next door but one to Spratts

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 15:43

Posted by: whups (4697) 

were you in hawthorn then ashpad ? .

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 16:17

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

Bit confused with the house numbers here. I though Johnny Waterworth lived in the first house on Poplar Ave. which I think might have been number 3. Or was there one before that?

I'm thinking this way. We were at 13, Hayworths at 11, Ratcliffes at 9, Hortons at 7, Lowes(?) at 5, Waterworths at 3. That would have meant the next house along was number 1, which would have given next door to that as being in Birch.

Or have I remembered things wrongly?

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 16:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Brian con remember them brothers from Brocksteads I think they met yer been twins they only had little heads ort kids use cor um little little heads but wen thy thinks back ney it was shame Dave mi dad was jacks uncle you had pen at stubshe mi mam lived in what was Eddies chippy on rectory road cross wer thy geet thee Sunday best slip on s from

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:12

Posted by: bert (680)

Tonker yes John Pownall and Margaret lived next door to Duffys.Margaret was Mays sister. then across the road lived another sister Kath who was married to Jack Knowles.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:14

Posted by: bert (680)

Malc them brothers were Jimmy and i think Harry shaw.they did alot with the church and where nice men when you got to know them.they took lots of stick from klds.but thats what kids are like.oh its nice to see you on here.does remember 10 nill to the greeners

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:21

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Yes Uncle Joe think your right, we lived at 58 the other end. The 2 houses on an angle 1 is in Poplar 1 is in Birch.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:24

Posted by: bert (680)

Hi uncle Joe.Boffeys was on Birch Grove next to them was Number one poplar.i have forgotten their names but the father commited suicide in the loft.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:32

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Yes he did climbed into Boffeys loft.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:33

Posted by: bert (680)

I think thats why they moved.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 17:36

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

I thought that it was (Joe?) Boffey that was found in the loft after he topped himself. I'm almost certain it was due to mental problems caused by a bad accident down t'pit.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 18:05

Posted by: bert (680)

no it was not joe boffey ,it was Bob Boffey who found him.because the where stains on the walls.Bob was a bookies runner he used to come round Downaall green.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 18:43

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

A family called Jackson lived next door boffey Bert and yes I remember lots of nils wen I kept goal Bert wi a cracking team then pal good times wi sum good sessions to he he

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 19:24

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

A family called Jackson lived next door boffey Bert and yes I remember lots of nils wen I kept goal Bert wi a cracking team then pal good times wi sum good sessions to he he

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 19:24

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes Bert, it was Kathryn jackons dad who died in boffeys attic, the family moved to wentworth rd after that.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 20:04

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes dougie, pictures will be sorted.

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 20:07

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

A family called Jackson lived next door boffey Bert and yes I remember lots of nils wen I kept goal Bert wi a cracking team then pal good times wi sum good sessions to he he

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 21:29

Posted by: sammys (23) 

Why trixie haven't been on for a while hope your all ok we went on our first cruise last year hoping to go on another next year round Greek island

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 21:38

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I'm thinking this way. We were at 13, Hayworths at 11, Ratcliffes at 9, Hortons at 7, Lowes(?) at 5, Waterworths at 3.
Very good that Uncle Joe, now cross the road and start at number at Peets down to 2 think hard fink very hard

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 21:39

Posted by: tonker (21748) 

Billy Waterworth?

I bump into John Cross regularly, in Ashton. Now, there's a rum card!

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 22:02
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Posted by: sammys (23) 

Trixie hows eddy I remember him giving me my first fishing rod and taking me fishing on his motorbike got me into fishing for many years after that went to landgate lodge the other day for a walk seems like yesterday

Replied: 4th May 2020 at 22:16

Posted by: whups (4697) 

yes malc i do remember them . 1 used to wear a cabadine mac .

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Thy reet Brian 1did dust remember thi dads car getting nicked of Asda car park golbourn ney sin thi run so fast text me mob no geet new mob Un lost loads of no s pal

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 07:00

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Thy reet Brian 1did dust remember thi dads car getting nicked of Asda car park golbourn ney sin thi run so fast text me mob no geet new mob Un lost loads of no s pal

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 07:00

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Thy reet Brian 1did dust remember thi dads car getting nicked of Asda car park golbourn ney sin thi run so fast text me mob no geet new mob Un lost loads of no s pal

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 07:00

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Thy reet Brian 1did dust remember thi dads car getting nicked of Asda car park golbourn ney sin thi run so fast text me mob no geet new mob Un lost loads of no s pal

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 07:00

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Morning, been thinking since there seem a lot off talk about Hawthorn Ave, is Pat Green still with us be 80+ now, could you say Ralph's brother as been asking and did you know he passed away few weeks ago and hope your keeping well

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 08:06

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

Dougie, I'll give it a try, but cant rememnber most. Starting at the entrance to the Croft and working down.

Dont know, MacLwee, dont know, Flynn, Ormshaw, "Bungis" (another family when you were there), Wilding. Yours, Collier. After that it gets a bit blurred. I remember the Shaws were in one, and Pierce in the '60's. Thats all. Can you remember the others?

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 09:14

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Harry Green, ------,Christine Peet, Reta Santos, Alan Fayle, Jenkinson, Birds,

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Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Take care everyone and be safe.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 09:30
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Posted by: sammys (23) 

sorry trixie didn't no about eddy hope hes feeling better soon x

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 10:00

Posted by: bert (680)

Hi Dougie wasnt Woodcocks next to Macilwee.they were there when i was there.Harry shaw lived next to last house.Bert and May Rosebotham lived in the last house.they had a son Billy Fagan.Who still lives in Billinge.he had a sister zelda i think.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 13:41

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

your right bert but remember uncle joe is a lot younger than us

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 13:59

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

Ok John some improvement now.you do have an messenger account as found it in Ann’s contacts but you have not used it.but I did leave you a message so you may find it.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 14:02

Posted by: whups (4697) 

i,ll give you a call malc.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 14:33

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

Just a thought inspired by Berts post. I wonder how far we could all get in naming the first families to live in the houses on the estate?

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 15:45

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Not that easy Joe try this anyone except Bert, between Bert & Wards how was the first one to move into that house

P.S. bambam don't for get to upload that link, lets keep it moving why its in moshion, you've been going 12 years now

Still waiting for some sort of reply for Pat Green

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 19:05
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Posted by: bert (680)

which wards there were two,one in elm avenue and one in poplar.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 19:41

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

Tumtingle, Pat Green lives over in Yorkshire she is a retired teacher, I met her in Ashton a couple of years ago butshe was a bit snobbish, we had been good friends in our teens,so there you go nowt as queer as folk,

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 21:25

Posted by: ashpad (89)

yes wupps we moved in the same time as Duffys in 47 I only moved away when I got married iin 66 my parents lived there till they died very friendly with Duffys

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 21:38

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Bert was there a spratts in elm ave at one time.

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 22:58

Posted by: sammys (23) 

Hi trixie I did have one deleted it going to try and set it up again you on Facebook x

Replied: 5th May 2020 at 23:31

Posted by: whups (4697) 

yes i knew your dad nick well .arthur shaw moved in next to him & i got them both drunk on whiskey one year .there was,nt much time between the both of them passing.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Bri you will remember the allotment that jack Prescott worked on for years, there was a fish pond on there and jack also had veg growing on the land, it's same property that Kevin has now,was that owned by blue bell or was it leased by someone else.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 00:27

Posted by: whups (4697) 

it was leased by the brewery i think dav.before our day i think it was a bowling green.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 01:35

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave that fish pond is still theer Kev as dun a great job on theer clank had it for a spell after mr Prescott was on theer sat it little place

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 07:03

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave that fish pond is still theer Kev as dun a great job on theer clank had it for a spell after mr Prescott was on theer sat it little place

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 07:04

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave that fish pond is still theer Kev as dun a great job on theer clank had it for a spell after mr Prescott was on theer sat it little place

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 07:04

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Bert--which wards there were two,one in elm avenue and one in poplar.
Next door but don't say anything as it's a lot harder than joe thinks see how long it take for someone to put name on but not you thats if you know

BamBam-- Yes dougie, pictures will be sorted. Thanks not finished yet hope you approve,
looking at storing all the thread and photos just in case anything happens to Wigan World like it did with Blogs, this is 12 years of chatting and uploading photos of the life of a small Village,

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 09:14

Posted by: bambam (2104)

There was a fair bit of land there, Kevin has done well with the garden and not wasted any space, Malc how do you send 3 & 4 posts a time.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 09:52

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

Dougie/Bert, I know it would be difficult to find out who the first families to move into the houses on the estate would be. It would be interesting to know more about DG. Not only as regards the estate, but Rectory Road, who owned the land, anything really. We did a history of the village I am living in now, and loads of interesting facts that nobody knew about came to light. No doubt it would be the same with DG.

Was there ever a ground breaking ceremony for the estate?

By the way, Ilooked at the photos in the link at the beginning. I'm not 100% certain, but I think the one of Norman Prior is dated incorrectly. It was probably 1956 not 1958.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 13:50

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Do you remember the field / park in between poplar & rectory rd there was proper goal posts both sides of field, also at side of daintys and terraced houses was Everton st, was there a football team there at one time, don't recall anything ever being built on there and how did Everton st get the name.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 14:54

Posted by: uncle joe (692)

That field is what we used to call the Croft. Back when I was at Rectory School, its were we used to play football. We met other schools from the area in matches there as well.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 15:20

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Oh right uncle joe, so that field could possibly have been made for school activities, that makes sense because there wasn't that much room at back of school as it ran onto Dells woodland.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 16:17

Posted by: whups (4697) 

me to dav i knew it as the croft & spent many an hour paying footie.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 16:29

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Don't know Dave how I get 3or4 posts tether in less I keep mi finger on button to lung pal I'll try useing a pen wit rubber on eeend tell thi wot Dave thys done good job on this site cut mi Bally open taking diving hedder on Croft ps it went in tho still geet mark but it's stretched ney stay save pal you and family

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 16:54

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Aye will do Malc you lot as well, when we was kids we used call that spare land on birch grove the croft spent many an hour on there with you, Birketts and clancs same area mi dad & billy jones parked their coaches, and Clancs wagon, I believe there are houses there now.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 17:35

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Its a pity Harold Ogden deed he knowed wer every body lived he used to rime um all off int bell God bless him I'll ask Cath is wife if as see her he met of rote um down

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 17:49

Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

We moved into no31 Leyland green Rd on the 24 july 1948 we were half way up, Jouell moved into the last house built on L G> RD, We thought we were in a Palace with Fridge cooker & water heater,

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 18:10

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I we did Dave dust remember pushing me int tan sad down birch grove past hunters wen thy said thy tripped up Un let mi go down the big steep hill well it was then wen we wer Young ins he he grand day s wish I could turn clock back pal

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 18:44

Posted by: suesa (587)

Been speaking with my mum about moving to the estate. Her Ward family moved into 9 Elm Ave on 2 Nov 1946. Next door at number 7 Myrtle Eckersley née Deluce (Cissie Harrison's sister) moved in, she had a son John. On the other side of them at number 11 was she thinks the Smith family who ran the garage at Bryn. Maybe Dougie or Bert can confirm.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 19:03

Posted by: bambam (2104)

yes I remember that Malc on Birch grove near Garages,have you seen any of Dawber family.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 20:08

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Yes she is right, could have been your granddad that was the Clock and watch repairman for the estate in the 40/50s, as you say next door to Bert was David Smith be 80 now if still going, better now as Redur good snooker player in his teens,can't just remember, I think Barbara and Peter Painter moved in after them, Bert should know this

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave dawber was shunt driver night shift at kwik save wen I worked theer 20 year sin tho not sin him since see thy owld mate Un mine Gordon burrows last wik he now lives on victori road on the dark side with his wife he says he's retired now 25year at rain ford high scoo

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave dust ever see out of vinny wadsworth he was a rum lad him when lost on horses especially

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave dust ever see out of vinny wadsworth he was a rum lad him when lost on horses especially

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave dawber was shunt driver night shift at kwik save wen I worked theer 20 year sin tho not sin him since see thy owld mate Un mine Gordon burrows last wik he now lives on victori road on the dark side with his wife he says he's retired now 25year at rain ford high scoo

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave dawber was shunt driver night shift at kwik save wen I worked theer 20 year sin tho not sin him since see thy owld mate Un mine Gordon burrows last wik he now lives on victori road on the dark side with his wife he says he's retired now 25year at rain ford high scoo

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

what doing malc,tha repeating thi posts like a mad parrot,last time I saw vinny waddy he lived on poolstock lane that was some years ago though, I worked with his sisters Margaret & Elanor margarets since past on.

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 21:25

Posted by: suesa (587)

Yes Dougie after being injured in a pit accident my grandad did repair clocks and watches. When he was in the middle of repairs Mum says that all of a sudden a call would stop them all in their tracks, 'Nobody move! I've dropped a spring' This was followed by whoever was there helping with the search.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I know Dave iam only useing iPad don't no what up with it here goes again tap

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Suesa how's your mam doing not seen her for bit tell her I have been asking and get Malc on here we still go football gether wen we play

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 21:40

Posted by: suesa (587)

She's doing OK thanks Malc. Fed up of staying home at the moment but realises it's for her own safety. I'll tell her you were asking. I tried to get our Malc back on here last time I spoke to him. Maybe you'll have more success

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 22:01

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

bambam tested your two links you added so every one can dig some old photos out, they don't have to be a member of WW to upload them, this is one I uploaded two show the younger generation a coal mine in north Ashton but sent it to Downall green site by mistake

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I know sue it must be hard especially fort older ones but it's fort best I will ring Malc morn

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Posted by: suesa (587)

Malc

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Malc I used to work on security with an old mate of yours Leeds fan john {Ged} Doran.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

which mine is that dougie.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I know dav he rings mi up every other wik good lad Ged took mi Un Wardy all o place watching leeds is had his foot off ney tho he geet ganger in it I'll tell him thys been asking Dave guin up the wooden hill ney tho good neet folks and stay save

Replied: 6th May 2020 at 22:31

Posted by: whups (4697) 

it,s park colliery ( stones)which you shud know malc as part of it was onto the mabeys land . if you can remember that the offices where at the front of the road until they moved them & stubs lived in 1 of them . where that pits main area on l/pool rd is where they built that butchers.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Bri,would that be Fishwicks,if so I remember it well.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Suesa how's your mam doing not seen her for bit tell her I have been asking and get Malc on here we still go football gether wen we play

Replied: 7th May 2020 at 06:01

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Following on from the upload of Stones Pit on Liverpool Road, can you see anything of a man they call him Red Clogs, seek and thi salt find a 6 foot man

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Posted by: tonker (21748) 

That 'red-clogs' looks a bit like Freddie Foster!

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Posted by: PeterP (7790)

Dougie photo taken from Parkside site and some people say they can see TWO ghosts

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Posted by: priscus (8272)

I can see one and a half!

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Posted by: tonker (21748) 

The other one might be 'little Sid', asking Freddie "how long're y'gooin't'be stood theer, still"?

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Posted by: whups (4697) 

yes it was dav.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

I can see him dougie, poor devil must have perished down there.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 


Dougie photo taken from Parkside site and some people say they can see TWO ghosts

It is Peter all photo's or index this come from Parkside P5--B1, I didn't it was from Stone's just showing them it

Peter I only uploaded the one of Park Colliery P1--A1, for the younger people of DG that may never have seen a Coal mine or the place their Granddad may have worked

Replied: 7th May 2020 at 21:56

Posted by: PeterP (7790)

Dougie maybe its time some young un's visited the Britsh Mining Museum and took a trip underground. Later in the year hoping to take both of my grandkids, they have to be 5 year old to go underground

Replied: 7th May 2020 at 22:36

Posted by: priscus (8272)

Last autumn, I promised a group of my neighbours to take them for a day out to visit The National Mining Museum, when Spring arrived. Of course, the restrictions in response to the virus have overturned that plan.

Maybe when things get back to being less restrictive. I'm in Yorkshire, but it is still best part of an hour's drive.

Where I live, is not on the coalfield, so they have no idea what mining was like.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi priscus there's good little museum just off east lancs road a580 going towards mcr at astly it's great mi dad worked at golbourn pit when they went that is back then they recon blue bell was packed Monday's having a ram Sammy probably George grimshe ont piano good day's hey

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

I remember George on piano when they had sing along at weekends.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave Arthur fellows was anther good player out of ceder grove

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Malc I remember your dads mate George Lee of Elm Ave, they went everywhere boozing he must of been a member of every club in Ashton area.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Wasn't Arthur's daughters in Trinity Girls.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I they wer I went on sum club outings podgee died about 10 years sin they all liked a drink back then me to when you could get away with it not like that now you would get the sack dav

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

She was dav

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Guin off now for a it bit clean mi pump in garden pond

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

I remember your dad taking us Simms rd and bringing us bottles of manns and we sat in car supping em, I remember having a bad head day after.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I Dave George use put eggs under bush in front garden Un set chicken laid um they wer best at Easter tho ps brill back then everyone

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I Dave George use put eggs under bush in front garden Un set chicken laid um they wer best at Easter tho ps brill back then everyone

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Vernon Ogden liked a pint to, he walked up Elm ave every night at 9pm never missed.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dust know Dave I can't really think on bad family on theer then everyone helped each other

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 


Dave Arthur fellows was anther good player out of ceder grove
dougie--never knew Arthur played, are you thinking of Harry his Brother

I remember George on piano when they had sing along at weekends.
dougie--George could have been a top piano player only for drink, just adding he could never see a piano with the lid closed,

dougie-your talking about the people now that I knew twice once in their younger days, then again when they got older

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Posted by: whups (4697) 

dav all arthurs kids played in the band .the estates not the same anymore as no-one knows each other.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I thought if was Arthur Dougie

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Bell had a very good dart team back then Brian they good players thy wer was main mon tho kid thy was that Un some late neets to

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Posted by: bentlegs (4545)

Tumtingle it was arthur who played the piano h ealso played the acordian & he could not read music, all done by ear.Harry was his son,

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Well tha learns summat everyday, always thought harry was arthurs brother, think he died at a young age.

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Posted by: whups (4697) 

when i was reffering to arthur i meant arthur williams dav . but janet fellows did play in the girls band.

Replied: 8th May 2020 at 14:31

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Sorry Bri for the misunderstanding, yes I remember Arthur's girls he must of been very proud of them, I still see Audrey Banks I know she is still in band and has been for a long time now, next time I see her I will ask where they meet and practice.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Bell had a very good dart team back then Brian they good players thy wer was main mon tho kid thy was that Un some late neets to

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Will at have jar or two when this over with Dave ps I am not login out that's why it keeps repeating pal

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Posted by: whups (4697) 

yep malc at 1 time we had 6 county players playing at the bell .

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Best neet of wik Brian

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Best neet of wik Brian

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Posted by: bert (680)

hi sue yes Myrtle Eckersly and her son John who had hearing problems did live next to your nan.and Wilf Smith lived next door,they lived next door to us.It was jack Smith who had the garage .he was one of the sons.Myrtle moved to Ashton opposite library.she was good friends with my mum.

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Posted by: bert (680)

Malc did thy say as Ged Doran rings you,if he does tell him as I have been trying to find out where he was.we where good friends for years at Kwik Save.and after.last time i see him he was at Bunzls in warington..it would be lovely to speak to him.

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Posted by: bert (680)

Malc Dave Dawber died along time ago .his wife Margaret died with cancer,and Dave never got overit.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I didn't know that Bert RIP I Ged lives near aldi in Warrington I will tell him pal is r reet Ged

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Bert I would have give Ged mob but thi give me a new mob at work and I lost sum no s Ged 1of um pal I'll be ringin how are doin Bert

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Img=http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/ww/dance.gif"]

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

sorry to hear about Dave Dawber,i aint seen les or gary since 70s.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Trying to put photos on Dave are Bethany and Rachael just put some on north Ashton and people

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

what name have they put them under malc.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Dag27 If you had followed the link correctly the is what you would have got a Dancing man


This is a photo I took off the site, of Garswood Hall Mining institute on Wigan Road till 1958, some on here my not have seen this building before,

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Trying to put photos on Dave are Bethany and Rachael just put some on north Ashton and people

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Img=http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/ww/dance.gif"]

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave Malcolm Simm

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Tumtingle it was arthur who played the piano h ealso played the acordian & he could not read music, all done by ear.Harry was his son,

Tumtell, you may be right about Arthur, Harry, Brian, may have been his son's you have me thinking but don't think so, It was Arthur the that lived in Cedar Grove I was talking about not the Dad,

Dag27-- You could upload photo like this to prove a point your all most there.
Full photo here with Arthur standing "centre back row and Harry first left front row"

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

WAITING PHOTO

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

dougie is that bill mitten on far right hand side.

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 07:40

Posted by: bert (680)

Hi Dougie and Gerry,Arthur Fellows lived in poplar avenue next to wards.he could play any instrument,his son Harry pop as he was known,married Mary Livesey but sadley he died young,his other son Brian had a bad limp,but he was a very good goalkeeper,ithink there was two sisters one was Joyce who was a good friend of ours.pop was called emigrating with another lad from Rectory road,i cant remember his name .they both played in the band.the other man had a pub later on at New springs.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi bert, would that be same Ray ward that used go in bell at one time and was he Granvilles brother.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi Dave that's Granville s brother don't no wer them photos went I will try putting them on north Ashton pal

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave Granville had other brother used to go in s un sI think is name was donold he liked a game of snooker I remember guin in 1 neet wi Malc and he said it was is dads brother

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Ha ha , tha worse than me Malc I thought ray was related to little Malc, by the way have you asked him to join us on here..

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Ya I have he says he met do Dave there's nobody wus than on these on computer s

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

How's your mam coping in lockdown Dave

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Posted by: alan85 (66) 

Dougie, re the photo of Garswood Hall Institute, as a child in the 40s I remembered it well. It just used to be called "The Stute" by most of the locals.

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 14:42

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Malc, she ain't been out of house for 6 week now, our Donna does all her shopping.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Lets hope it soon ends dav dust remember warren taking 3 wheel bike into Ashton god bless him I try find is grave but I ney can find it Dave

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Lets hope it soon ends dav dust remember warren taking 3 wheel bike into Ashton god bless him I try find is grave but I ney can find it Dave

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Lets hope it soon ends dav dust remember warren taking 3 wheel bike into Ashton god bless him I try find is grave but I ney can find it Dave

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Warren's grave is right over on left hand side going toward's dell,his grandparents are in there as well.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Ok Dave cheers for that I'll put some flowers on Dave if I find it

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

BAMBAM Yes it is Billy Mitten, I to was thinks Arthur was a brother, I've put three photos on your link North Ashton at the top of the page have you seen them,

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 21:15

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, just seen them now fantastic I was on committee with Bill & Nellie nice couple, had many pint with Bill Murphy to, I can't recall Ste though where did he live on estate, remember John & Nora very well I used to mate with young John, don't recall shop owners though.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Stev lived at Haydock think Bill went to live with him, photo taken from our back garden in 1963/4 you can see why I said it was a short cut, this is turfman at 2 do you know him


You all must have old photos of your friends but the best should be uploaded to North Ashton photos look at it,

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave how do load photos on this site tried putting sum on how long does it take I will put them north Ashton

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 22:48

Posted by: bambam (2104)

young john, alias turfmon as we called him think he got that nickname with his dad being groundsman at NAVC.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

When we was camping out on rec who was the prowler that tried to scare us I remember Arthur speakman breaking is ancle jumping o scoo fence late seventies that

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 23:21

Posted by: bambam (2104)

not to sure if it was Grag smith or not, I know when I used camp out with Gary & Paul speakman Grag and his cronies always tried to scare us.

Replied: 9th May 2020 at 23:32

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Did you ever see him in the boxing ring at Ashton fair, he could give OK, but he really could take some stick

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

He was a hard fella, I loved him he always made me laugh,i remember when pey sharples had bell he superglued an old 50p coin to floor in front of bar and Arthur knocked the heel of his shoe trying up root it that was funny for weeks,he was a loveable fella and liked a pint.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi Dave pank trying get it up to funny good landlord pey landlord makes the pub

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi Dave pank trying get it up to funny good landlord pey landlord makes the pub

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Not seen pey sharples for years, Bell had a good vault and lads in there spent some money I can see peggy & Ethel running in and out with trays of ale, you wouldn't get that service today.

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 00:05
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Pey lives wer Joe littler on Elm avenue next door to fairust s

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Ethel yor youguns con get thy own that she said and all that Booz they used bring in they never got change wrong they wer at there jobs Ethel died about 3 year back up the dancers now Dave good neet stay save pal

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

I know where you mean malc, when I was a young lad living in in Elm ave Mrs Hughes lived there, does pey still go in bell.

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

dougie that pic of young turfmon, may I ask if you can remember, where it was taken.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Taken from our back garden looking across the field to the backs of the houses in Rectory Road you can see your house in 1962/3

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

I was going say I thought that was rectory rd I can see my old bedroom window, what was the barn like building to the right was it on cromptons complex, or is it the old cottages.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Yes 3 old cottages with long gardens, see why it was a shortcut when coming back home from the Mill-fields, photo of the Dam before being filled in,
I had a top bread German Shepard bitch kennel name, "Millfield Dam"

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi Dave not many of the old boys go in bell ney it's not same now it's a different breed today mi thinks any road like I say good landlord makes place and brewery s don't help wi there rents last time I was in bell David houghton send off he could tell some tails I was talking to pey about 12 month back I was saying to him will have reunion for all lads

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dougie you met know my grandad Alf ball he played bowls fort club they all would turn o in the graves if they see it now tho

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

That looked a very nice place dougie nice and peaceful, thanks for latest uploads and info it was nice to see some of old greeners.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

This is Colin Davis and myself on a weeks holiday round Wales this is a stop at Lake-baler, others came down by car to meet-up for the day, PS should have said they slept in the car over night

Dag27 do you mean Alf Ball from the shop, if so of course I do

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi dougie that's him his brother Fred Joe ball dad

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dougie is that Bert Davis lad you lived in ceder grove if so they backed onto us in Elm avenue and was talking to him in flower park Ashton about 3year back

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 12:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dougie is that Bert Davis lad you lived in ceder grove if so they backed onto us in Elm avenue and was talking to him in flower park Ashton about 3year back

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 12:56

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Dag27 --You sure I've got the wrong dad with Billy Hunter.

Lads on holiday I.O.M. 1961, Walking over the fields where the M6 runs

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Is that billy hunter top left

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

dougie now I remember shop owners Malc & Margaret, George fosters daughter, also knew other two daughters June who married Frank Prior and Doreen who married Brian Clarence, George was a very good joiner I watched him make step ladders and they was better than shops had, used to have a drink with him in afternoons at NAVC,he always had Halliwells bottled Guinness followed by what he called hot uns (whisky with kettled water) rum card was George.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Frank and lived wer you Dave 25 Elm AV I think there stil lives there Doreen n Brian live down rd from me

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes Malc Priors moved in when we left, I do believe there was a bad fire at that property a little while ago.

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

dag27 --had to phone a friend about you dad as I should have know him it's knocking my head in, so can I ask did he move to Bryn area in his late years, would he go into the club and Star on Wigan Road for a drink,

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 15:50

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Now there's a blast from the past dougie, I used go in star and have a pint with jack after buffs meeting at garswood hall, Terry malone loved a drink in there I found it a very good pub so sorry it's gone.

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

No dougie he died in 1985 he was from stubshe mi dad drove wagon for frank littler in seventies wi big Chris Boland

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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dougie he went all o place boozing mi dad him George Lee Bill Davis

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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Dag27 you seem to be new to the Downall Green site I don't know about you being new to WW so this is for anyone, can you balance a match on the rim of a glass without it falling off (NO) well try this when nothing to do --click here--

Have a look --Here-- NO COMMENTS AS I WILL DELETE THE VIDEO NOTHING TO DO WITH SITE

bambam--George Foster was Barr-man of the old club for years, he also had the big allotment at the back of the bowling hut

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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi dougie, there was a lot of land behind club I only remember bowling green that went right back to gardens in poplar Ave,

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 22:38

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Who was goust s of old rectory school

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 22:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave I put them photos on North Ashton but some how they won't go on I have one of me Tina on see saw don't know it was took we was with our Pauline and Norman but it won't let me load them

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 23:05

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I went up them steps everyday for years to miss Burton and miss Prescotts classes and played there after school but I never experienced a ghost.

Replied: 10th May 2020 at 23:09
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I two lads stalked the steps at neet AV forgot there names they put a white sheet o them

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 06:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Miss Burton she was a rumun we use say miss can I go toilet I am dieing to go miss then she'd say go in corner I die quietly then cracking school I remember rectory playing land gate school the one on bottom of hill and landgate was a mon short so mr Leary says to me to me do you want a game to day Simm I says I do and I scored and made 4 4 draw Leary wuz going mad he say s I will take you back there if you that again he he

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 07:05

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

dag27, Try to help you first must be old photos, or they will get knocked back, CLICK IN THIS ORDER
1 photos of Wigan,--2 Album,--3 Places,
4--North Ashton, 5--Upload you photos( left hand side),
6--Places again, 7--North Ashton again,
8--drop down box saying upload your photo's, fill in
9--first choose a file (Photo) and upload should see in box
10--Fill in Name, photo title, something about photo,
11--At bottom put code in, click publish photo,
then wait to see if excepted,---GOOD LOOK IF YOU TRY

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 09:13
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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

BamBam, There is something drastically wrong with this ex-Downall Green 11 thread, Started 27th April to 11th May 2020 Only 17 different posters. Posting 329 times, with 2.600 views

lets face it people are not joining in with any topics posted, to keep this thread going we need new blood to ask questions that both young and old can join in, people may not remember the Blue Bell Bowling green you will all know but I can't find the photos yet

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 11:41
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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Ah now then, come on dougie where was it maybe on land Kevin now has or was it car park.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 12:00

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Yes--you will all know but I can't find the photos yet to upload

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 12:08

Posted by: bambam (2104)

dougie you may have an answer for my question, all streets ,groves, and avenues on d-green estate are named after Trees, so where did Bolton st and Everton st names that are on Rectory rd come from.?

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 12:19

Posted by: whups (4697) 

what about pig street dav ? .

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 12:25

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Oh yes Bri forgot about that, I was wondering if there are names for the roads on other side of Bolton st they both led to entrances that was once Millingford Engineering.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 12:32

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Where was pig st never heard on it it must be what locals called it back then I have see photos on of the bowling green the woman who as the old vicarage Reata showed me them 2years ago now there's for fasanating place bowling green looked like it's wer Kevin is

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 13:43

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

If you go to the first page and come down the fist two photos I uploaded shows Pig street (church Street) houses, the other is after they had been pulled down with the children playing on it, only this year could have seen the footing before they built that new house

Some one gave the photo's to my brother for me to copy, the bowling green had a 7 foot wall round it when I was a lad and still being used till into the 50s for bowling

P.S. Never knew that jack Prescott worked the allotment as a Prescott family live next door at number 1 Derek & Keith

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 14:04
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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Bolton/Everton street were just used as entrances to the back of the houses as it was all fields on ether side then, till they built a big house with a lot of land, latter turned into the club with the bowling green at the top and a large grass area all the way down that was used as a playing field, latter in 1950s they built the new club and car park,

Come on Tumtingle tell um about the build up to the band

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 14:40
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Posted by: whups (4697) 

malc it was directly opposite slaters pen . it was where they are building that new house just near the top of booths brow rd at our end.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 15:17

Posted by: suesa (587)

Malc the picture of our Kev, Brent, Brian Hardman and me that Dougie posted further up on this page is taken on the dirt rook that included some of the remnants of Pig Street. We lived in the cottages across from the bus stop, where the big house on the corner is now. Pig Street ran from the side of the shop (Cook's shop when you were a lad) and round the back of the cottages to Booths Brow Road.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 15:40

Posted by: suesa (587)

This is the link to the photo, there's plenty of information underneath the picture, same for all the North Ashton pictures.

link

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 15:49

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi suesa, you've just jogged my memory with the pic, I remember when Bill Jobe had his Bedford wagon in there it's was same make and size as the one your dad used drive for Frank Littler Malc, Mr Jobe lived on poplar Ave next door to Norman Edwards.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 16:03

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Here Malc, how's this for a memory do you remember your dads Morris oxford estate car Reg 5445 RW and the other Morris oxford WNb 317 good old cars them he took us all over place in them, I also remember going to your uncle Jack's pen at stubshie.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 16:17

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Bloody ell dave don't no how thy remember s them car redg s remember taking Bill jobe spare tyre s fort bommy wi Malc there Geoff he come going mad at us

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 17:07

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Suesa I remember that street now that bus stop was goals wen wer lads Dave I was on farm this and frank s wife Mildred geet a string of sausage out of pig swil wash them under tap n she says they will do for frank s Tay he was know as grub he was good chap

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 17:17

Posted by: suesa (587)

Believe it or not Malc where that house is now there was a shop, then 3 houses and on the corner a chippy then 4 houses going down Booths Brow Road

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 19:35
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I remember shop well suesa cooks had it then I think there was 6 shops on rectory rd plus co op Un Doyle butcher we wer spoiled then I remember guin Tommy Evans for mi mam Un he gee me wrong change to much wen I gets home wit stuff Un all change mi mam says thy con go again Malcolm always first name then he he ps I wish I was guin for mi mam ney

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 19:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dust remember swifts on island they had some kid s there must of been 13 of dav but some large family's on thee there was 84beders on estate and only 1wi brick garage

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 20:00

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes they had a large family did swifts, they will all have their own families now problably breeding like rabbits ha ha, I'm trying think who lived there before swifts.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 20:48

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

I have enjoyed reading the last few post on here tonight,

which house on the island was it BB

Billy Mitten on right about 3 years ago

Ralgh Yates & Brian Derby two of the nicest chaps to come off the estate

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 20:56
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dust remember swifts on island they had some kid s there must of been 13 of dav but some large family's on thee there was 84beders on estate and only 1wi brick garage

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:01

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave was it seals

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:03

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I know Brian Derbyshire Jean and all there kid s Lorraine lives in her dad Un mam s old house on birch

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:19

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Haha good ones dougie is Bill Mitten still going he will be 87, had cane of him a few times, like bottom pick best three bowlers at Garswood Hall.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:31

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes Malc seals, but didn't know much about that family.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I remember walkers and fairhurst s getting there the put through that would be seventies Un windows on car to

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 21:59

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I ment Windows on house and you was the Indian woman who went in bell I think she lived at top of lilac avenue on left going in from Elm AV

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:17

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes they got windows pu through due to Millingford strike, Jack walker was boss and ken fairhurst was working through strike, ken also got beat up by Jeff & john won't mention surnames but you know them, on his way home from bell, can't recall any Indian as yet but Bri may know.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:32

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Were all int bell 1 afternoon and owd Luke ainsco says during war owd Joe Un bessy Pownall are up stairs in there house and the airade sirens go off and joes says come on bessy will best go Un get int shelter so there running down stairs Un bessy says hang on Joe hav forgeet mi forsteeth joe say s come on there dropping bombs not meat pies we were rolling o lafin what a character he was

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:47

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Were all int bell 1 afternoon and owd Luke ainsco says during war owd Joe Un bessy Pownall are up stairs in there house and the airade sirens go off and joes says come on bessy will best go Un get int shelter so there running down stairs Un bessy says hang on Joe hav forgeet mi forsteeth joe say s come on there dropping bombs not meat pies we were rolling o lafin what a character he was

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:48

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Were all int bell 1 afternoon and owd Luke ainsco says during war owd Joe Un bessy Pownall are up stairs in there house and the airade sirens go off and joes says come on bessy will best go Un get int shelter so there running down stairs Un bessy says hang on Joe hav forgeet mi forsteeth joe say s come on there dropping bombs not meat pies we were rolling o lafin what a character he was

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:50

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Sorry for posting all them

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 22:56

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Aye he was a rum un Luke you could write a book about all characters from the old estate, do you remember Bob Kelly when he took an horse in bell and said a pint for me and a pint for me mate.

Replied: 11th May 2020 at 23:58

Posted by: whups (4697) 

i remember lorraine swift malc & seals moved in after they left .

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I'm getting confused here Bri, didn't, Lorraine swift live in poplar Ave next door to Norman Edwards.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 00:22

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I'm still confused Bri, didn't, Birch family from Garswood move in swifts old house on island.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 00:33
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Posted by: bert (680)

Swifts moved from Landgate,Mrs swift was Tommy Liptrots sister.they lived in the house what was Hessions,,next to where Harry Ogden and Kath lives .they moved to Earlstown,they Knocked two houses together for them.The indian woman was Mrs Hobson who lived next to Trixie s grandma Mrs Lizzie Pownall in Hawthorne avenue.They where evicted and they moved to Manchester.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 12:28

Posted by: whups (4697) 

your right on swifts bert next to harold ogden which put them in popular ave . the seal family moved either into harolds house before him or next door where swifts lived .

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 15:25

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Bri, not to sure when Ronnie Miles moved into house before Harold Ogden, but I think seals lived next door, by the way the houses on island are they Elm Ave or poplar, on other side was Roy Hughes and Deans.

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Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Ronnie Miles and family lived in Harold’s house.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 16:41

Posted by: pjones900 (12)

Must have moved in mid 60’s

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 16:43

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Peter, I always remembered Ronnie being there but I've been trying to think of seal family my memory's telling me they had a few daughters, the name carol comes to mind but I'm really not sure.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 16:48

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

They had son Paul same age as me Dave I remember Ronnie race in go kart s round island Mrs Hughes was always shouting Roy Roy Roy he had a 3 wheeler green don't know reg Dave

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 17:03

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Malc, I worked with Roy at Eckersleys in Wigan for years we used travel in his three wheeler mon to fri, his mother when I was younger used stand on front shouting to passers by what Time is it she did that all day poor girl had started to lose the plot, Roy used go mad when lads of estate would pick his van up and stand it in middle of island on it's back facing sky like a rocket.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 17:13

Posted by: PeterP (7790)

Bambam the Seale girls were Ellaine and Christine.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 17:24

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks Peter, I don't know why but just can't remember that family.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 17:39

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I Dave it was a shame fort poor lass wen thy think s back dust remember playing square s all down Elm there was that many playing out back then it wuz afe har before you touched baw again tar mak o our square s ney

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 17:49

Posted by: bambam (2104)

We used play a game they called Kirby using a football, all walker family loved that game my mother made us be in house at 9 and walkers was still playing when I had to go bed.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 18:02

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I but Dave that's why went central scoo he he

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 18:09

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Brian cyrol Carroll come. Of. estate I know he went rectory

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 18:31

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Is it Cyril Carroll who lived in spindle hillock married to Joyce, if so he come from High brooks over Drummers Lane.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 19:23
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I it is dav I thought he was of birch grove I seem to remember him telling mi that leyland green rd side now there's a thought dav leyland green not a tree like rest of estate

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 19:50

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Think they built estate around Leland green, have a look on first page of thread Malc there is old & new map it's very good.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 20:13

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi Guys & Dolls,look on first page a map old and new added to help us, this might get a few more posters.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 20:16
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Posted by: bambam (2104)

You may be right Malc, I know his father had farm on high brooks near where willie ryder lives but don't know where Cyril lived on estate.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 20:20
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Cyrol lives in haydock grange valley as done 30plus years is sister lives up farm I will have look at that map

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 20:34

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

I didn't know the original grammar school was in garswood

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 20:57

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Ha ha it's a cracker in it, I noticed Richardson has built that new property where NAVC used be.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 21:00

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

May have to re-size photo nice one bambam, where the house is on the left going up Bolton Street is exactly where the old club was, the pen I was telling you about that George Foster had run up to the estate, you can see it as his garden now, in the 40/50s all the land in front of the club was a big grassed playing field belonging to the club, till they built the new club 1951







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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks for that dougie, I see off the map that the bowling green still looks to be there.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 21:58

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Dave club is a pile of bricks now its shocking but that's wey it is Enfield in pem same as but all there bricks have gone not like NAVC it's eye sore

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 22:35

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Well surely if they are building there they will have to move all debris.

Replied: 12th May 2020 at 22:44

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

O.K. Thank's to bamban we can turn the clock back with His map of the top of Rectory road Church Street area, we were talking about Pig Street well this is it


Replied: 13th May 2020 at 07:45
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Posted by: dougie (4347) 

You may have hard about the Blue Bell cottages between Bell & school well here they are, I only remember being three in the school yard my Mam lived in one as a young girl,
School, Cottages, Bell, Clayton's & Jack Pyes pen, across road Bowling Green,

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 08:21

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Bam BAM remember asking about the three cottages that stud back with long gardens, well this shows all the houses round the green,
Butchers, Co-OP, cross Pye's, Your house, Semi, Cottages, ---- White house, Downall Green cottages,

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 08:27
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Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks for explaining map area dougie, I wasn't around to remember those you pointed out never heard of Clayton's and didn't know jack pye had a pen there, would he have used the pen to supply his shop with goods.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 09:28

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

It was more like a wild garden with big trees and beehives you know the type to make honey, they cut them well I mean pushed them down 1940s when cut the trees up leaving just big roots that we used as a play area, till they built the houses upto the bell.

On the first plan where you see church, ST they built a wall across to the shop after pulling the bottom row down, leaving just the few houses that you see running off Rectory Road with big gardens to the church wall

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 10:47

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Thanks dougie, I have been studying the map and I'm amazed how things have changed I didn't realise cromptons lock & hinge factory has been there such a long time and other buildings fields (land) which has been built on now, very interesting.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:21

Posted by: whups (4697) 

were about ready for another d/g blog arnt we dav ? .

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:27

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Why I'm on you know Derek Gibbons the body builder, his first gym as a lad an old railway wagon with the wheels taken off in back garden, the only way his dad could get it in their back garden was over the club land, you may know Derek toured the clubs painted in gold showing off his muscular body, ripping telephone books, and bending 6" nails they say he as the record of 6 at once, we always talk as ex-greener I told him his dad was as strong as an ox, he could put his arms round a big beer barrel like a clamp and walk with it, he just said not surprised.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:29

Posted by: bambam (2104)

I know Bri must be fastest blog this one.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:30

Posted by: bambam (2104)

That's interesting dougie, a downallgreener that hit fame and put us on the map.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:36

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

whups Everyone should count to ten before re-posting same topic

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 11:36

Posted by: trixie (5010) 

I remember gold Derek Gibbons in village club.i went to
School with his sister Audrey.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 14:40

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Never knew Derek Gibbons, where on estate did he live sounds like an interesting character.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:00

Posted by: bert (680)

Alec williams used to go round with Derek Gibbons bending nails and that.Iremember them doing a display at one of the garden fetes.when i was young.Alec used to have his weights in there back garden.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:17

Posted by: dougie (4347) 

Derek never lived on the estate he lived on Rectory Road backing onto the club, nyyy don't till me you don't know Derek he had gym's all his life ask any of you old doormen or body builders that lived around the Ashton area

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:17

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Yes dougie I had heard of Derek but it's before my time, he may of lived there when my mother used take me down to co-op and Doyle's butchers but I was only very young then.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:37

Posted by: Dagutd27 (208) 

Hi dave I put 300 on

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:37

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi folks, please go to number 12.

ex-Downall Greeners 12

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:56
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Posted by: trixie (5010) 

His family lived on the estate in Bryn

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 14:25

Posted by: bambam (2104)

Hi trixie, please go to number 12.

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 16:32

 

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