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EX DOWNALL GREENERS 12

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Please enjoy number 12 folks.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:55
Last edited by bambam: 13th May 2020 at 16:58:47

Posted by: bambam (3090)

What have you put on Malc 300??

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 16:59

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Three video's -----Rectory Road-------D.G, Estate-------B.B. to Haydock--

-Click North Ashton top of page, Upload your photos (left side)-
1--Places,
2--North Ashton,
3--Drop down box saying upload your photo's,
4--Choose a Photo click upload, Publish should see in box
5--Fill in Name, photo title, something about photo,
6--At bottom put code in, click Publish again
---GOOD LOOK IF YOU TRY, it's just the same only ASHTON,



O.K. Thank's to bamban we can turn the clock back with His map of the top of Rectory road Church Street area, we were talking about Pig Street well this is it


You may have hard about the Blue Bell cottages between Bell & school well here they are, I only remember being three in the school yard my Mam lived in one as a young girl,
School, Cottages, Bell, Clayton's & Jack Pyes pen, across road Bowling Green,


Bam BAM remember asking about the three cottages that stud back with long gardens, well this shows all the houses round the green,
Butchers, Co-OP, cross Pye's, Your house, Semi, Cottages, ---- White house, Downall Green cottages,



Replied: 13th May 2020 at 17:02
Last edited by dougie: 16th May 2020 at 12:30:22

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I've just looked on map and was surprised to see 4 football areas on what was Farmer Hunt's corn field behind the old Croft.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 17:11

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I was just saying out of 400 plus posts on no 11 I put 300 on ps i remember Dek coming rectory doing his party trick s also what mi dad he could blow water bottle up and brassed it I never see him do it tho but plenty say he could big John marsh took liking for strength I remember cyrol telling mi he picked up 2 bags of 100wt coal and walked them wagon at landgate coal yard

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 17:18

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Probably true Malc, john was a big powerful lad with hands like coal shovels

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 17:23

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malc why not put them photos on now dougie has shown you how to.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 17:28

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Thanks again Dave for DG12, DAve were you born in Garswood or DG,Remember your dad lived in Garswood,

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 18:00

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave tried that what dougie said it tells me your photos will be on later but nothing happens Dave

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 18:03

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi bentlegs, my father never lived in garswood his father come from Haydock mother from billinge they lived in Skelton street Bryn before moving to new houses in Birch grove, I was born in billinge hospital and we lived with dads parents until we moved into Ken savages old house on Elm Ave in 1964.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 18:39
Last edited by bambam: 13th May 2020 at 18:41:34

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

dag27-- let me help you if you do one the way I've said there will be no stopping you,I guarantee a photo will show on Album first then in North Ashton with in 12 hours, go back to your post just above bamban's and press Edit then delete on the right this is the only place we will work, are you up for it type in yes.


-Click North Ashton top of page, Upload your photos (left side)-
1--Places,
2--North Ashton,
3--Drop down box saying upload your photo's,
4--Choose a Photo click upload, Publish should see in box
5--Fill in Name, photo title, something about photo,
6--At bottom put code in, click Publish again

---GOOD LOOK IF YOU TRY, it's just the same only ASHTON,

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 18:50
Last edited by dougie: 13th May 2020 at 19:36:48

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Tommy Evans lived where we lived Dave don't know what year we moved in I only lived theer and Lilac AV

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 18:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Ney Brian dust remember clodin that dirty cloth in bell darts Un dons neet just as Tommy kemp walked through door straight rhyned chop s now boys now boys good neets them just had bacon ribs too

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 19:01

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Just looked on a site of old streets of Ashton and north Ashton no sign of pig street tho I was told there's only 1 house in north Ashton wer Betty Lowe lived wen were kids opposit land for sale now

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 19:10

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Yes

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 19:38

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

O.K. we will stick here follow this on your yes page,

1-- go to the top and click North Ashton

2--click upload your photo,on left

3--click places,on right

4--look down and click North Ashton, you will see a drop down box

5--should be back here with the drop down box

6--go to the bottom click choose a photo press upload photo, must be old photo,

7--you should see photo in box, on the right now

8--if so go back, fill name and detail of photo in

9--fill in code and click publish,

10-last one here click publish again then hope for the best

I uploaded a photo same time as you in the same way, of a bowling final on the village club green look out for it My photo is on both Album and North Ashton have a look don't give in dag27 the first one the hardest

you should have been answering me in your yes box so I could see it your going wrong

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 19:39
Last edited by dougie: 14th May 2020 at 10:53:03

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Tried that dougie it says they will be on in 12hr wil see I'll get thi pint back if tha reet pal guin off for a bit ney bad fort eyes

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 19:52

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Bert did you say that mrs swift was Tommy Liptrots sister, I think your getting mixed up Tommy's sister was Joyce.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 20:25

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

With thread changing from 11 to 12 , this is photo of Derek Gibbon's if any one interested, that's Derek at the back

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 20:43
Last edited by dougie: 13th May 2020 at 20:44:03

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Nice one dougie, it looks like Derek's got trousers on it must be photo.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 20:59

Posted by: bambam (3090)

dougie, your brother in law is on the pic you put on album of bowlers at NAVC, also Dave Taberner, Kens Brother, and I think Arthur Baines of Hawthorn Ave.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 22:52

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malc did you put them photos on that dougie helped you with,I was pondering about the estate and realised vinny waddy lived next door to you on Birch Grove.

Replied: 13th May 2020 at 23:27
Last edited by bambam: 14th May 2020 at 00:00:55

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malc I just been pondering again about families on estate, do you remember Edans who lived next door to Fred Cross on Birch Grove,Shirley,Dawn,Gillian.

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 00:14
Last edited by bambam: 14th May 2020 at 00:24:57

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Dave don't-remember Edans liveing theer but I remember caps moving in i will aft try on computer wi them pictures iam only useing I pad i did what dougie tells mi it says your pictures will be on in 12hr but nothing

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 06:58

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dav i am dinosaur on these things I will get theer tho I am thomer n nails mon guin work now Jeff Knowels lives in dawber s old house Fred died few years back remember jumping garages across rd that's wer whups did his I think try for now

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 07:13

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

As I said you should have been answering me in your yes box, so I could see if your going wrong anytime it must be a small thing as you should be there

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 10:32

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Yes Malc, I remember kaps (Dutch family) moving in after Edans left in 70s kaps had four children marianne, Leo,David, and Eunice nice family, who's Fred you're on about on last post.?

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 12:37

Posted by: whups (14196) 

it,s tommy evans dav not edans.

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 12:47

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, are you saying Tommy Evans lived there.

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 12:49

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I was told Tommy Evans lived where we lived 27Elm Fred cross Dave Ray's dad mi dad was Margaret s uncle jack who had pen at stubshe wer brother and sister

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 17:34

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malc who was that Fred you was on about.?

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 21:42

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Fred cross Ray s dad

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 22:03

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember Fred working on metro in Ashton then on frog lane yard, he to used work for Sankey sugar.

Replied: 14th May 2020 at 23:43

Posted by: whups (14196) 

if u remember dav tommy evans had the shop in rectory rd & the girl leo capp married her parents took on the shop .

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, yes Leo married Leslie Fazackerly I remember her parents taking shop when Tommy Evans retired or sold up, i'm led to believe Tommy once lived on estate.

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 00:34

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Was Leslie Fazackerly connected with the Fazackerlies that lived in Poplar Avenue or Spindle Hillock?

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 07:35

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Uncle joe don't know if they were related, but not to my knowledge.

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 07:51

Posted by: whups (14196) 

dav i think they once lived in spingle hillock before they got the shop ? .

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 11:34

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Never knew Tommy Evens lived on the estate, he was manager of one of Rushton's shops somewhere and they were selling up, Tommy took the one in Rectory Road on and move in next door, I think the house next went with the shop he made it into a little gold mine, he also liked the village club

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 11:35

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i remember when all the shop owners like annie deackon,tommy evans,daintys & wilf banks the undertaker used to go in the little snug in the bell .

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 12:10

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh yes I remember snug it was nice little escape from bar and vault area, I also recall the old chaps telling me bell was once a morgue or maybe a temporary morgue did you hear anything about that guys.

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 12:29

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Where was Wilf Banks' place? I never knew that there was an undertaker in DG.

The Fazackerly family that I was thinking of that lived in Spindle Hillock had a daughter, Irene. The last time I heard anything about her, she was living in Chicago. Could it be the same one?

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 12:31

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Bri I don't know where family came from, I can't recall knowing them until they got shop her father always wore a trilby and mother was always in shop with her sister, perhaps they had relations in spindle hillock.

Replied: 15th May 2020 at 12:42

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Went up to the Church yard today, made these three video's for the ex greeners that once lived on the Estate. to see how the old place looks now as I was very surprised myself how clean it was, almost no cars parked on the roads making it more like a private estate, any objections to the estate one off anyone living on the estate, I will DELETE it immediately but I think it shows it in a good light.

Go full screen -----Rectory Road-------D.G, Estate-------B.B. to Haydock Tesco--

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 11:26
Last edited by dougie: 21st May 2020 at 08:36:16

Posted by: whups (14196) 

wilf banks lived about 70yrds from the bell going down to the right.apparently dav the tap room in the bell was once a morgue .

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 11:53

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thanks for videos dougie, obviously things have changed since I last went around estate but it's nice to have seen my old playing areas again, cheers Bri I've looked on the map but couldn't find a morgue on there, such a shame that all old characters who told us these tales have now passed on.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 12:43

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh Bri, forgot to ask you where would wilf banks have worked from.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 12:46

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Thanks for the videos Dougie. Theres been a lot of changes since I was last on there,

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 13:03

Posted by: whups (14196) 

wilf banks used to look you up & down every time you went in the bell . i guess being an undertaker he would,ve dav.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 14:13

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Ha ha that's funny Bri, I bet they was all frightened of clapping eyes on him , suppose if you're an hypochondriac you would of legged it.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 14:30

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

There's several looked you up and down in bell

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 14:42

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, maybe but they would of been after your money not your body.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 14:57

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave thy reet theer I have put some photos on north Ashton pal

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 17:43

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Well done Dag27, told you that you would run after the first upload, you may know but if you click on "photo's of Wigan" at the top then "Album" you can track see if anyone comments about your photo's

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 19:30

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, well done pal I will go take a look.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 21:17

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi dougie cheers pal I was uploading them wrong they was upside down sideway on thanks Elsie Simm who you mentioned in early post met be my auntie my dads sister they lived in lilac avenue I think 3rd house up on right from Elm avenue enyway cheers pal

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, good one's glad you got there in the end, I see you put my sister on there with you, only recognise 5 lads off football team, and thats's a good pic of your parents.

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 21:52

Posted by: sammys (328) 

You will have show more malc Tuesday how you have done it Haha

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 22:59

Posted by: sammys (328) 

Good photos will show your Lorraine

Replied: 16th May 2020 at 23:01

Posted by: whups (14196) 

so you managed it then malc.hope you did,nt put them on 3 or 4 times ? .

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 00:12

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Ha ha, I like it Bri I did some laughing other day when he said he had posted all the ones on thread 11, he would of only typed half of them.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 00:36
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, I didn't realise that was john Hulse on football pic on album, was a nice lad john.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 00:42

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

That's Paul bradburn he married 1of Denis hervin daughters brad burns lived on birch gr top end hervin top of leyland green

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 08:06

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Morning Malc, think Paul married Maureen Irvine I ain't seen any of them guys for years.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 08:20

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Your next objective is to upload photos on to here like this, you can do it


Replied: 17th May 2020 at 08:21
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning dav n Dougie I was only in miss Burton class you know I will try I like your drive through dag no place like home

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 10:11

Posted by: whups (14196) 

denis irvine malc.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 12:43
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

I was in miss Burtons class as well Malc, also mrs sudworth took us occasionally in the old school with concrete steps up to the giant wooden door, you wouldn't have got the key in your pocket that locked that door.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 12:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I know Dave no hiding that key under bin pal like they did back in those days

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 14:41

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave just seen photos of your dad on work section liptrot coaches nice all comments true as well he was good man

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 20:51

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

dag27--don't just tell him show him you could do it you know, you've taken the first step links and photos is just as easy.
- bambam's Dad with his coach- click to see and add comments(but not on here)

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 22:12
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi malc, can't find anymore photos there was loads iv'e asked mother but she can't find any either must have got lost when we moved,i know there was some of stubshaw cross fishing outings which we went on as kids and some of his coach parked on front in Elm ave.

Replied: 17th May 2020 at 22:44

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malc Arthur smalley who ran the business had two coaches, a coal wagon, and also ran a funeral service.

Replied: 18th May 2020 at 17:49

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave I remember what was coal drivers name was it frank it was busy when they all pulled up coach wagon n slater no room for Kerbi then he he

Replied: 18th May 2020 at 21:46

Posted by: bambam (3090)

It was Frank Malc as you say estate was busy then, I remember dad had to go on coal in winter as there was no bookings for coaches, estate was full of coal wagons, Lavins, scholes, and Fred Sharples and many more, in winter is was foggy at tea time everybody had coal fires, do you recall going Leyland green pit and big Roy filled our wheelbarrows I went up and down Birch Grove about 3 to 4 times a day.

Replied: 18th May 2020 at 22:39
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

aspinalls as well dav.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 00:04

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, I forgot about them guys where was they based Bri do you know, and did Frank Hesketh do coal as well.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 00:20
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Ice-cream vans to Freddie Sidney Dave Roberts Dave give more away than he sold then Tony from brocsteads in ,3wheeler hi it

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 09:17

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Fred was tightest ice cream man ever he would measure it before serving you, Dave Roberts lovely Lad he knew kids who was hard up and yes he gave it away, Tony used put ice cream on cornet with a shovel you always got more than your money's worth off him, then there was Deroma guy who lived in spindle hillock he had automatic dispenser and ice cream was white and light, and you could set clock with them same times everyday, Deroma was 13:30 and Fred 15:00, good old days.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 10:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Sid still lives nr me Dave is agood bloke I you could set clock with um

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 12:10

Posted by: whups (14196) 

aspinalls , tommy lived over the fields near willie ryder . jeff lived at the bottom of downall green rd on the corner across from waineses.yes frank did coal as well .

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 12:39

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I didn't know his name was Sid Malc, I don't suppose Fred & Tony are still with us, I remember Fred liked his horses.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 12:42

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

He was of estate I think I've seen photos of of him when he was lad Sidney byrum

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 14:47

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, I never actually met Tommy Aspinall but heard a lot about him, my father worked for him at one time.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 16:47

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave Tommy was good hard working just like is son Jeff who does coal round Tom was manager of s and s football team he started I think but they could not beat the blue bell or later when I was manager of downallgreen team but Tom and son Jeff and is doughtor wer good people

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 18:33

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thought S&S had very good team tabby and john Tatum played for them but that would have been 70s, didn't know bell had a team team then.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 19:25

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

To be fair Dave I think it was know as north Ashton they went through season without defeat

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 19:42

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave do remember Mrs Pennington across rd I think she moved in after hendley s I do remember going for coal to and how everything went on fire back then

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 20:34

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I do remember Mrs Pennington Kevin garnett married her Daughter Marlyn, she was lovely woman her other Daughter lived in South Africa.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 20:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I could not think of her name Paul's brother didn't know she had another doughtor Dave she's was a nice lady always asking how everyone was

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 22:17

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Who's Paul Malc you lost me, can I ask you what is Pauline's husband's surname who worked on Ribble Buses is it mulligan.

Replied: 19th May 2020 at 23:43
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Dave Paul garnett Pauline millard sorry did not get back to you last night in work early Dave Norman millard

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 06:16

Posted by: bert (704)

Tommy Aspinal Left Downall green and moved to Fairholme avenue.He had a massive garden at the back of his house.I used to drop Manure of for him of farm.He also helped to form and build Ashton Athletic club and build the ground .for Downall Green.he was a good friend to downall green.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 16:37

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi bert, everything I've heard about Tommy has been good, I know he loved the football team and ground that he created, I now know that he also loved the estate and people who dwelled in it, I also know about the outings he organised from the old legion and used his coach which my father drove, he is a legend to downallgreen and probably never knew it.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 17:08

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, I know a few old drivers off Ribble I will ask them did they remember Norman I could never think of his surname, when I worked at Eckersleys years ago we frequented a pub called the new star inn on lower wallgate, it was always full with drivers from Ribble and Haulage drivers from a firm called Alfred Goulding, they always had piano going at weekends good old days.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 17:15

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Been looking on map and seen a road off spindle hillock called the clough, is that where the old fearns farm was.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 18:07

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Yes it is Dave Esther ferns farm then it's nice little culdsac dav

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 19:09

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I remember Kevin Keegan coming to s and s for there football presentation it was packed in and out then year after Duncan Mackenzie came not as many there but Duncan was great player only used once for England as sub what a joke

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 19:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I remember Kevin Keegan coming to s and s for there football presentation it was packed in and out then year after Duncan Mackenzie came not as many there but Duncan was great player only used once for England as sub what a joke

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 19:35

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember that occasion with Kevin Keegan Malc I got his autograph, don't recall Duncan though, who was famous footballer that lived in skitters he was a Duncan.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 20:59

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thanks Malc, times and places are changing very quickly these days.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 21:41
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

That they are Dave it waits for nobody pal only 56 mi self younguns at work keep saying wish it was home time I keep telling um don't wish it away boys it's frightening how it passes

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 22:43

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Them places your dad used take us as kids are all houses now, cattle market, frog Lane metro yard, and flag yard and to think those places kept Wigan council estates going for years, Ashton had it's own place to off bryn st don't know where it is now maybe at ince behind old morrisons place.

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 23:16

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I they going to build houses on the field back of Simms lane next dav I make sure I lock back gate before someone puts bungalow in garden he he up the dancers for me now pal meet stay save

Replied: 20th May 2020 at 23:29

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I they going to build houses on the field back of Simms lane next dav I make sure I lock back gate before someone puts bungalow in garden he he up the dancers for me now pal meet stay save

Replied: 21st May 2020 at 06:18

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I they going to build houses on the field back of Simms lane next dav I make sure I lock back gate before someone puts bungalow in garden he he up the dancers for me now pal meet stay save

Replied: 21st May 2020 at 06:21

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

O.K. I'm putting you on Bolton Road, see if you can find your way to Downall Green by clicking the road in front of you, enter any street name

-Bolton Road A-in-M

Replied: 21st May 2020 at 08:59
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Did Danny heys have any kids I think lived next door to johnsons in popular avenue

Replied: 21st May 2020 at 19:41

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Just trying follow dougie's map, yes he had a son Malc I have spoken to him in Wigan just can't recall his name at moment.

Replied: 21st May 2020 at 20:52

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i think you & malc got it wrong about who married marylin dav ?.

Replied: 22nd May 2020 at 11:27

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, it was Kev wasn't it I remember Marylin in bride's dress leaving her house to go church, I thought it was Kev Apologies if I got it wrong again.

Replied: 22nd May 2020 at 11:48

Posted by: whups (14196) 

it was kev.

Replied: 22nd May 2020 at 12:01

Posted by: bambam (3090)

When we used go in bell for the old Monday Club, I remember Kev & Ian gore calling after work at the Quaker pit on Ashton rd, bell was full of pit men who mysteriously missed pit bus.

Replied: 22nd May 2020 at 12:17

Posted by: whups (14196) 

there was no mystery about it dav,

Replied: 23rd May 2020 at 14:09

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

They used to toss a coin pit or Blackpool mi dad was driver them were tails I was told good old days not get away with that today

Replied: 23rd May 2020 at 15:26

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I know there was some rum characters went in bell.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 06:04

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Dave when David houghton moved to downallgreen in 1963 he told me he never see out like it till he went in Blue bell Dave was a rumun he used tell sum tails owd Luke wi Molly if her didn't like you her would give you a crack

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 07:11

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh I she would, I always liked Dorothy going on about her boyfriend she must have done 3 laps of estate a day.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 07:56

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I remember mi dad doing a repair job ont car and Dorothy was chunerin away to her self on stump Un he it is hand wit thommer heeeee yore bloody fat head ney Bill ney Bill good old days

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 08:22

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I remember mi dad doing a repair job ont car and Dorothy was chunerin away to her self on stump Un he it is hand wit thommer heeeee yore bloody fat head ney Bill ney Bill good old days

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 08:23

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave i am worse than Dorothy keep repeating myself he he

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 11:50

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

My husband nearly had a few clacks of Molly .he was a bit quicker than her
Years ago before we were married.she loved dickie smout .😂😂

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 12:26
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Posted by: bert (704)

I remember Molly ,when i got married we where given Mrs Fagins house at number ten Elm avenue.My wife was pregnant. Molly used to catch her bus outside our house,She used keep telling my wife that she had pinched Mrs Fagins house,sometimes she would get a bit worked up .she frightened my wife to death.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 18:59

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I if Molly didn't like you she let you know Bert what that mans name I think he lived popular avenue Rolly or something like that comes to mind

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 19:18

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc was that not Danny's son I think his name was Roland but not 100%.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 19:49

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Don't know Dave I think he got on same coach as Molly Dorothy and probably David Hayworth ps and if I keep double posting I'll be getting on it

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 20:04

Posted by: bert (704)

.I do not remember anyone else catching bus only Molly Dorothy and David Hayworth, when i lived there.the only Rolly i knew in poplar ave was Roland Sherrat.but he had no problems.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 20:25

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I think there was a guy who lived next door to joe littler not sure of his name, maybe Martin rolly, Eddie Sutton moved there later.

Replied: 24th May 2020 at 20:59
Last edited by bambam: 24th May 2020 at 21:07:34

Posted by: whups (14196) 

john rolly malc.

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 00:14

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

That's him Brian I knew is name was Rolly he use run on football with water n magic spunge

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 06:41

Posted by: whups (14196) 

they moved down to old rd near the old rd labour club .

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 12:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

That's some time ago Brian I remember joe littler he would never give you ball back if it went in garden Doris is wife would tell him give them baw back the kids you daft sod happy day s there was 1goal post up for years on rec not same now kids don't play same now

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 12:42

Posted by: whups (14196) 

old joe loved his garden & anything that went over his fence you could count as lost .yea malc it,s some time ago & i think none of them are with us anymore including john.

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 12:47

Posted by: dougie (5019) 


Did Danny heys have any kids I think lived next door to johnsons in popular avenue

Dag 27, just been looking through the posts, this Danny did he live next door to the police house in the 1960s nice chap as I remember him,
also, this Joe Littler did he live in the left house going onto the croft off the estate with Greens on the other side

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 19:29
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Danny lived in popular avenue turn left of the irland of Elm from bell second house on right joe last house on left before rec entrance Dougie they were all desent back then

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 19:53

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Yes I knew both very well, reason I asked bet none of you knew what Danny's job was as a younger man, a Steeplejack and one of the best and very highly paid,
Remember in the club one night he told us is job the following day was to go to this big office block to test every pain of glass from the outside, as one of the windows had shattered and fell to the footpath below, to satisfy the insurance to see if the glass had deteriorated in any way,

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 21:05

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Danny was blind as a bat in his older days as most of us are, next time I see his son I will find out his name, Danny is on pic of bell outing on car park.

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 22:23
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dougie I put hoist up on the leaning tower of Wigan

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 22:36

Posted by: whups (14196) 

there,s 2 joe littler,s dougie , 1 lived near the entry to the croft & the other 1 still lives at the bottom end of poplar ave near birch grove .

Replied: 25th May 2020 at 23:58

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Yes whups I knew both of them, worked in pit & Reeds with Joe from number 2 Pop, the other Joe only move to 32 Pop when Kyle's move to number 10 Pop about 1953

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 00:27

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I didn't know Paul s dad was joe at bottom end of popular

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 06:51

Posted by: whups (14196) 

you learn something everyday malc.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 11:32

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

I remember the Joe Littler that lived in the house on the left of the Croft entrance, but he was younger than me. Could it be that father and son had the same christian name?

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 13:12

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

BamBam - Thirteen is an unlucky number. It follows that the next page should be called .... ex-Downall Greeners 12A !

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 14:01

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Joe littler who lived at croft entrance lost his son in his late 20s, his wife Doris worked at NAVC for a long time and joe himself was a keen fisherman.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 14:09

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

I didnt know that he had lost his son. Do you know what happened?

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 14:22

Posted by: bambam (3090)

After a motorbike accident he had to have an operation but sadly died under anaesthetic, that's what I'm led to believe.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 15:16

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Thanks bambam. I do remember that he loved bikes even from before he was to old to ride.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 15:54

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Joe married Jean smith persey s grag cornt think of the other brother s name he came of is bike went Royal Albert and died in cubicle I think he cut main artery in big toe that's what I heard he also had a son Malcolm and I was told he died a few years ago he was ok joe

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 19:00

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Malcolm must have died young then, I remember him being born in 70s when he was growing up he was model of his dad.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 21:06

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Think the other brother was Raymond, there was another sister Sandra who married a lad call Bernard and lived at Ashton.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 21:27

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave it was ray thys Google we names pal when will pubs open dav

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 22:15

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Do remember hendley s name Dave I think roslin Paul they lived across road from us next to Bill flory hough

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 22:50

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Frank Hendley, aye they lived where Mrs Pennington moved to Frank was brother to birketts mother Louis.

Replied: 26th May 2020 at 23:00

Posted by: bambam (3090)

There was also his brother & sister John & Beryl who lived on Birch Grove next door to Vinny and Vera jones.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 00:39

Posted by: whups (14196) 

tommy hendley was the old man.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 01:35

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Were they any relation to the Hendleys that used to live in Cedar Grove?

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 06:49

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I never knew any Hendley's to live in Cedar Grove, they did have two older brothers Eric and Roy

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 08:12

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

In the Grove, there used to live Turners, Shepherds then the family I'm thinking about. There was a daughter, Angela, and son John. Could I have the surname wrong?

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 09:21

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Uncle joe, when I was a lad I can only remember Turners, Shepard, cunliffe ? Heatons, Davies, scully, (slater Boland) Fellows, cromptons,? Suttons.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 17:48

Posted by: bambam (3090)

After Julie cunlliffe left number 3 Stan Bowler moved in, there was also a family after bowlers a girl called pat Cameron lived there with her sister & husband can't remember surname,number 3 has probably had the most tenants over the years.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 17:55

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave I remember most of them names was that Stan that moved up to Brockteads mrs crompton was teacher at rectory and her son was a teacher at central school hows big chris doing

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 18:06

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Ain't seen Christoper for a while, we had a misunderstanding somewhere along the line, I need to sort it really, do you remember Julie who lived at number 3 they later moved near garswood labour club, well she got married and now lives on Rectory rd facing church.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 18:22

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

What was her surname Dave

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 22:10

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Maiden name was cunliffe don't know her married name, lovely girl worked at Morrisons for years I know she goes in bell.

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 22:18

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I think I know who you mean husband Kevin I think he s a plumber they did go in bell I think they go to pit pony now or they did up to them closeing last post up afe 5 morn stay safe

Replied: 27th May 2020 at 22:40

Posted by: whups (14196) 

do you mean julie dav ? .

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 00:05

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Yes Bri do you know her.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 00:33

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Bambam: Back when we lived there, the names in the grove went something like this:

Turner, Shepherd, Hendly(?), Heaton, (?), Davies, Prior (Scully later), Slater, Pimbletts (followedby someone I cant remember), Crompton, Cunliffe, Sutton.

The tenants certainly did change over the years. I suspect Dougie will be able to correct any of my mistakes.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 07:16

Posted by: whups (14196) 

could it be fellows ? .yes dav i know julie & kev very well & her mum & dad .

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 11:16

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Parkinson, (Turner, Shepherd,)---(Adamson,/Hendly, Winstanley,)__(Heaton, Davies,)---( Prior,/Scully, Hutchinson,/Slater,)--- (Pimbletts,/Fellows, Crompton,)---( Cunliffe,/Turner J, Sutton.)--- Your self,

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 11:22

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, I've not seen Julie since Morrisons closed, nice girl hope she found work elsewhere.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 13:36

Posted by: bambam (3090)

There was another girl off downallgreen who worked in market, carol hayes whos family lived on Birch Grove next door to chowey Heyes.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 13:44

Posted by: whups (14196) 

cant remember her dav ? .

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 15:28

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Ellis was her fathers name, he was brother to Richard Hayes colin' s Dad.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 16:59

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Carol lives in Ashton where Bob Kelly lived I think there were 4. Girls Janet Wendy. .cant remember other Ellis worked in pit I think

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 19:04

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Janet, carol, Elaine, Mandy, carol now works in shoe zone.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 20:22

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Thy s a good un wi names Dave what dit say mine was

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 20:39

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember tha nickname was iron jaw, is little Malc joining us.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 20:46

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

He says he met do says he's always on site have towed him join I'll ring him morn I will tell little cracker join to the more the better Dave I'll be glad when all this is over with tho

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 21:08

Posted by: bert (704)

Hi Malc sorry to intervine why the and Dave are talking about a lot of folk i dont know,but have you heard of Ged,only some of lads have been asking about him.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 21:26

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

No Bert is not rang me like I say I lost his mob no I'll ring and when he does I will tell him pal and I will pass no on to you he's good lad Ged I will let you know

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 21:54

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Bert it s 20year s sin we won Wigan cup pal and dean cup week before cornt believe it good days them pal and neets

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 22:01

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Speaking of ged Malc, where is he living these days.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 22:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Penketh Warrington nr Aldi he had is foot removed last year but last time I spoke to him before lock down he told me he was back driving so says he call up for a brew

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 22:30

Posted by: bambam (3090)

We had some good fun when we worked together, wish we was back at Central Park good old days.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 22:39

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I it's never same after changes like that Dave do you not do JJB ps do not see George hunt now

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 22:54

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Not seen George for years, I can tell thi a few tales about him, did Mabeys close down or is it still going.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 23:14

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

No it's still going Dave Malc works there I worked wi George at kwik save he was a rumun but he could be oqward to

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 23:28

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh I know that, he liked taking things to that didn't belong to him.did Ian mclymont work there at one time.

Replied: 28th May 2020 at 23:38

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Yes ogie Jeff knowels chow timberdick there was loads off dag worked there it was good job you was scared of having a day off in case you missed out i t was fun up the dancers for me now speak morn time for Brian now

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 00:07

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i remember them now dav they were colin,s cousins . 1 works in quality save in ashton.

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 00:11

Posted by: bambam (3090)

That's good Bri, they was nice family as was most of greeners.

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 00:19

Posted by: bert (704)

Bloody hell Malc i did not think it was that long.i remember the celebration though.boy did we have a good team then.Good days.

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 12:01

Posted by: bert (704)

Talking of George Hunt,he was one of first lads i worked with at KwikSave.i could tell you some tales about him.I used to see him at St Judes,rugby ,when i went with the grand kids.he never changes.

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 12:06

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Bert we had some people round team as well including you Jeff Brian Eric scully Neil not bad for little pub team

Replied: 29th May 2020 at 13:53

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Morning Malc, do you work weekends.

Replied: 30th May 2020 at 05:59

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I am today Dave I now work for a plant top of landgate Jeff Knowels works park time 3 days

Replied: 30th May 2020 at 07:27

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Dougie do know anything about my grandad Alf Ball falling of bus at Brocksteads must have been in fifties some time I think he died 1954

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 07:58

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Sorry can't recollect anything, the bus changed the way it passed through Downall Green a few times over the years for different reasons, your Grandma Sally was one of the nicest people in DG she would give us money back on any type of bottle as we would collect them to go too pictures,but we had to look in to make sure Alf wasn't serving as he would say Dit-bym-hear if you said no well tek-um-wer-tha-did, we didn't like he as kids

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 12:13

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Speaking of buses where we lived on Elm Ave you could see LUT bus coming up garswood rd to turn at Simms rd, then we ran to rectory rd to catch it in plenty of time, garswood bus was always single decker and billinge bus a double.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 13:47
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Posted by: uncle joe (708)

How the buses have changed since I lived on the estate. There used to be 3 an hour. One went to Billinge, the second turned round on the estate, and the third I think, but stand being corrected, went to Simms Lane End. All double deckers.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 19:21

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

When I lived at DG one bus (I think No56) went from Golborne Ashton to St Helens via Bryn DG Simms Rd Ashton Cross Pewfall Haydock Blackbrook. The other bus (no55) went from Leigh via Golborne Ashton DG Billinge chapel end.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 19:40
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

I know the 555 double decker ran from leigh to Billinge, and 556 Golborne to St Helens running via Ashton & Downallgreen.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 19:43
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Meaning the bus route changed a few times, first the bus went all along Downall Green Rd to Simms Road turning back, next turned left to Garswood turning back, next was too Billinge lower end turning back, next Blackbrook v Garswood turning back all going round the Dam, so we had four buses an hour but the bridge became too weak to take all the buses so they had to turn them on estate up Birchgrove down Leyland Green rd to join DGr at moore lane, that was Ok for a few years then all Birchgrove started to break up, so they changed again too turning up Rectory rd then right to join DGr at Moore lane,

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 20:40

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi dougie, I only remember them running on rectory rd but LUT provided a good service for years,i don't think they go to leigh or Billinge these days.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 20:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I know when they saw pit bus coming they hid

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 21:25

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Thanks any road Dougie just thought I'd ask thy ney nose till thy asks cheers

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember Malc there was a few drivers lived on estate who worked for LUT, Dave Dawber, Dennis Dawson, Lol Whittle, do you remember them guys.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 21:48

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi Dave I do remember them all gone now RIP Just having a few Guinness now before back to grinned stone morn

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 21:59

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

When I was driving for LUT in the late 60s, working from Atherton Depot. it was service 55 from Leigh to Billinge with extra peak-time journeys terminating at Simms Road End. Plus the service 56 from Leigh to Garswood. Both routes ran via Lowton, Golborne, Stubshaw Cross, Ashton then Wigan Road to Bryn Cross, then onward via Downall Green.They were all single deckers due to low bridges in Leigh area. Please, Dougie, correct me if I am wrong, as it was over 60 years ago.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 22:44
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave Alan woodcock towed me that he drove last trolley bus from platbridge to St. Helens don't know what year that would have been tho he used to drive crane at Mabeys we had some fun wi Alan

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 23:04

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave Alan woodcock towed me that he drove last trolley bus from platbridge to St. Helens don't know what year that would have been tho he used to drive crane at Mabeys we had some fun wi Alan

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 23:05

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember him telling me same tale now you mention it Malc, he was a rum un owd timberdick.

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 23:20

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

i think that's wer he met Doris she was conducter

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 23:30

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dave just thinking ney but did Arthur witherington not do ice scream to as well as all the others mentioned earlier in posts

Replied: 31st May 2020 at 23:42

Posted by: bambam (3090)

He did Malc, but I don't think he spent much time on estate, I know he worked at westwood power station at one time.

Replied: 1st Jun 2020 at 00:48
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Sorry about reposting this again, but we most have new people looking in,someone my like to try it yes you can do it

Replied: 1st Jun 2020 at 10:37
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Posted by: tonker (28647) 

MY C4R'S R3615724710N N11M8ER S4YS 'A 7WAT' !

Replied: 1st Jun 2020 at 11:43
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Posted by: alan85 (123) 

I was living in Leigh when I worked for LUT but did drive Trolley Buses as well as Diesel ones. Anyone from Downall Green, Ashton Bryn areas and working for LUT would have been found at the Platt Bridge Depot.

Replied: 1st Jun 2020 at 17:15

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Deleted---Did anyone see the one I deleted,

Replied: 1st Jun 2020 at 21:17
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

dougie people have been viewing our thread to take advantage of map, pity they didn't stay to leave a comment.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2020 at 21:04
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

What have I missed dougie, something nice perhaps.

Replied: 4th Jun 2020 at 14:41

Posted by: kenee (2111)


Joe if you register on Wigan Peers I will send you a PM.

Replied: 13th Jun 2020 at 17:40

Posted by: whups (14196) 

dav did you know scotch billy has passed on ? . he married joyce thompson before our andy .

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 14:31

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh dear, I remember billy used booze with him in oddfellows he wouldn't be that old Bri.

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 14:56

Posted by: bert (704)

Hi whups when did Billy Die. he used to work with us at KwikSave,years ago .he used to live nexxt door to my Mother in law.its sad news that.RIP Billy.

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 16:52

Posted by: whups (14196) 

a couple of weeks ago bert.dav i,m guessing around late 50s ? .

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 17:29

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thanks Bri, such a shame he was a rum character R.I.P Billy.

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 20:43

Posted by: whups (14196) 

he was hardly ever sober dav .

Replied: 16th Jun 2020 at 23:51

Posted by: bambam (3090)

oh I know he liked a drink Bri, but the Demon Alcohol takes no prisoners.

Replied: 17th Jun 2020 at 04:27

Posted by: whups (14196) 

exactly dav . time for another thread ? .

Replied: 17th Jun 2020 at 15:22

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

DG REPLIES VIEWS
8 436 15239
9 442 11135
10 431 9903
11 412 3614
12 233 3027
No need for DG 13 yet
Must be a glick in the system as I left large spaces between each column

Replied: 17th Jun 2020 at 19:57
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

it wont be long 4 a new 1 dav.

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 15:25

Posted by: bambam (3090)

It won't Bri you're right, I think our map has attracted some views.

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 15:56

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

whups, I must agree with PeterP why should bambam start a new thread every month, 11 was started April, 12 started May, and you are asking for another for June most run the best part of a year or so, don't make us the laughingstock of Wigan world there's been some good posts on here in the past, I for one know there's plenty to talk about yet that younger people from Downer Green would like to know if only someone would ask the right questions

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 16:13

Posted by: bambam (3090)

dougie going back to Reeds I remember many years ago going on a night out with them, we got a coach from factory and went to I think Birkenhead to board the Royal Iris, this was with buffs from Garswood Hall John Anders (odd job) and Ian ward organised tickets and it was a good night out to.

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 17:04

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Yes they were run by the Sports and Social club at reeds, as you say they were very good nights and as you will know a good few Buffs worked at Reeds at that time, in faked you helped to fill the coaches on above one night out most worked at Reeds you must have been a guest, I,ve said before had many good night out with the old men from the Bell that also helped to fill the coach on a day out

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 19:50

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

They are naming old names used in the past, no mention of coffin lane as I can see I uploaded a photo of it unknown to me, never forgot it and why it was named that, ? it ran almost in a straight line from "A" to Downall green church but the road names changed before getting to the church a few times but where was Coffin lane starting point, seems they all had to join at some point if coming from the east of the church

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 20:23

Posted by: bambam (3090)

very unusual name for a lane dougie, I must admit I've never heard that before have you any info on it.

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 21:27

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dougie was rectory rd siss lane

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 21:35

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dougie was rectory rd siss lane

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 21:54

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

dag27 --I wait in anticipation to see if anyone comes up with anything about this good ask , my family can be traced back as far as any family in Downall Green my grandmother was an adopted cousin to everyone, as all the really old Men and Woman all called her Cousin Anne -------then added a name, she was welcome in every house mind you not many houses in the days,

How you getting on with the photo uploads

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 22:06

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

bambam-- Horses to expensive for transporting the dead and people to the mother church with a grave yard, other than carrying them, it was a long walk with stops on the way to rest under the trees for a drink of water , someone may tell us more about the walk it was years ago he told me to ask about the photo but never forgot

Replied: 18th Jun 2020 at 22:25

Posted by: whups (14196) 

dougie maybe it,s because there,s a lot of people with something to say ? . take a look at the length of this thread . if we need a new 1 every month it shows how popular our thread is .

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 12:38

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Bri, was there a good turnout for jelly Sunday this year, I think it was early June when this traditional event took place.

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 14:19

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

whups, I see your point but as you will know on any big thread if you press the End key, it takes you to the last post on that thread then scroll up to see what you have missed, then you either click Home to stay on places or Back to change to a different place altogether,

The boss could do this if he so wished on every thread by just adding two words "Last post" but he must think it's not worth it, or we would still be on Ex-Downall Greeners 1

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 17:24

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Dougie been talking to fatherin law today he tells me covin lane ran from bamforlong to trinity long walk that back then long long time ago

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 20:18

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Spot on Dag27 from bottom of riding lane coming out onto Landgate Lane, Long lane now (Bryn road) to Bryn Cross, Eddleston Lane, Park Lane, Moore Lane, all known now as Downall green road, to Rectory Rd, or it may have been called Siss lane in them days

Ask him if he knows anything the mass grave for the fever victims, just off coffin lane before joining Landgate lane

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 21:30

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Will do morn what he doesn't know is not worth knowing Dougie tells me loads of stuff but he won't get in to computers Dougie

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 22:24

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Dougie, Coffin Lane ran from Bolton Road, Ashton in Makerfield, to a smallpox burial ground on Bryn Park estate. It was no longer than 300 yards.
Holy Trinity church was only built in 1838 and the graveyard started in 1841.

Replied: 19th Jun 2020 at 22:41

Posted by: whups (14196) 

birthday today dav . officialy an old fart .

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 11:00

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Happy Birthday Bri

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 13:23

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Have you applied for your bus pass?

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 15:16

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Tonks he has had one for 5 years advantage of coming under Merseyside. Manchester are tight you have to be of pensionable age Whups would have to be 66

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 15:46

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Thanks made a bit of a mess of it didn't I but it was a long time ago I first put that photo on, still remember you giving me the history behind that photo, not to well it seems

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 18:18

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Ventured up to the Bowling club for a couple of hours this afternoon with the wife not to play just to sit and relax , they tell me it's members only through the gates only one green open and if you wish to bowl only two can play together, plus a time must be booked so no one can Hogg the green,
It's a big area both inside and outside for social distancing when the club finely opens, I've not forgotten the pint I promised you all looking like I may get away with it

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 18:49

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

That's a good call Dougie better than Ashton Happy birthday whups ill have for thi

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 19:47

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Will do morn what he doesn't know is not worth knowing Dougie tells me loads of stuff but he won't get in to computers Dougie

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 20:04
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Will do morn what he doesn't know is not worth knowing Dougie tells me loads of stuff but he won't get in to computers Dougie

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 20:04

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Sorry for the double post I think I pad shot at dav

Replied: 20th Jun 2020 at 20:32

Posted by: bambam (3090)

dougie when this pandemic is over I will buy a pint for everyone who turns up at our meeting, but on my terms so you will have to come to hen hole on Gidlow Lane, I will also pay for you and bentlegs a taxi home.

Replied: 21st Jun 2020 at 01:29

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Coronary nook off drummers lane Dougie that's a good Un Dave I'll jump out bryn after the drink at the hen

Replied: 21st Jun 2020 at 23:04

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Snapshot of Coffin lane, off Bolton rd at Baldwins farm

Replied: 22nd Jun 2020 at 11:22
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Just looked on map and realised there was a coffin wood as well.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2020 at 12:53

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Here you go, Dougie!

That map was done in 1845. Seven years after Holy Trinity church was built and four years after the graveyard opened.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2020 at 19:08

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I remember Baldwin's coming to farm here at Simms Road in the 40s I first meet Ruch before we went to secondary school, he was 18 month older than myself,

Replied: 22nd Jun 2020 at 22:35

Posted by: dougie (5019) 


Posted by Admin--JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL CAN ANYONE HELP? I THINK HE WENT TO WIGAN GRAMMAR SCHOOL?
I hope you can help me. Dougie Yes he may see this if he wishes to be contacted hope it's him nice chap we know him under another name

I have seen a picture featuring Eric John on the WiganWorld website. I was at Hull University with Eric John 1968-1971 and he is the only one of a group of friends at that time who we have failed to trace. Half a dozen of us now meet up from time to time for a chat and a few beers.
Is there any chance that you may know how I could contact him?

Replied: 23rd Jun 2020 at 08:54
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Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Hi Doug,
do you, or know anybody, that has a photo of the exterior of the old village club ( the house )
I have been searching for years, but to no avail
Also, do you have any old photos of the area ( Holy Trinity, Rectory road, estate, etc, as i am involved in setting up an exhibition for the church next year.

Replied: 25th Jun 2020 at 15:44

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi scott, I remember many years ago old George foster showing me photos of rectory when he was a lad, it had a tram on one of them near to where tommy evans shop was, but I suppose those photos could be anywhere now.

Replied: 25th Jun 2020 at 22:17

Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Hi Mate, long time no speak, last time we spoke, me and Susan saw you in the Galleries in Wigan. I am in desperate need to find as many old photos of the area as possible, especially the old village club, if you find any or know of anybody, please put them onto me please

scottwall@hotmail.co.uk

Cheers mate

Replied: 26th Jun 2020 at 16:38

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi scott, have you put adverts in local shops and facebook, even bell when it opens someone on estate or their family must have photos that's been handed down to them.

Replied: 26th Jun 2020 at 19:23

Posted by: whups (14196) 

try willie ryder,s wife janice , she has loads.

Replied: 27th Jun 2020 at 11:42

Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Thanks both, i have already put the word out on facebook, and Janice has already shared a lot of photos with me (might be worth asking again )

i was also told that Doug Yates or Bert Gibbons could possibly have some too, or know people that have

Regards

Replied: 27th Jun 2020 at 17:28

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Is this the sort of thing your after, P.S. this photo was taken in the infants play ground as you went through the gate to the Rectors field

Taken in front of the old school on Rectory Rd on a walking day the full Downall Green band,

Replied: 27th Jun 2020 at 21:22
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Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Nice picture Dougie. The only one I remember is Ken Sudworth, I was friendly with his brother Tom. The C. Melling in the second row, would his name be Cyril?.

Replied: 27th Jun 2020 at 22:03

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Hi alan85--Look after your self nice to see you still pop up from time to time, They are the twins that lived on Downall Green rd, John and Clifford Melling at Moore Lane
This is a another good one of the Rector on walking day just passing the Green still along way to go

Replied: 27th Jun 2020 at 22:42

Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Hi Doug, yes i am after as many photos as possibly of the area. i have a lot of old school photos from wiganworld, my mum was on one of the 1946 school photos as well ( Joan Cunliffe )

Do you have one of the exterior of the old village club, i have intertior photos when the band used to practice in there, but have never managed to fine one of the outside. also blue bell, rectory road, estate etc.

Replied: 28th Jun 2020 at 16:06

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Hi Scott--First I was in the same class at Rectory school as your Mum ( Joan ) she was always a very good-looking girl, I must also be on the class photo you have, I also worked under your father-in-law Bill in the pit as for photo's most of them I've already uploaded on WW in the past plus printed them off to give for the last school reunion, so they must be in circulation out there.

If you would like me to print a few off on plan paper if it would help but you may have them already, just ask as I don't know what you have got

Replied: 28th Jun 2020 at 22:01

Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Hi Doug
Bill Cunliffe was my grandad, and worked at Stones and Sutton manor. If you have put all your photos on WW, then i will have seen them. I am on the look out for photos of the area that have not already been put on here. The one i am on the lookout the most, is the old Village club exterior
regards
Scott

Replied: 28th Jun 2020 at 22:17

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

hi scott--If you ever get talking to any old timers and you ask about old photo's, and they say no but I've loads of old negatives if they are any good, you could always loan this off me to look through them and print any off, maybe you could be lucky and drop on a pot of gold of photo's never seen before

Replied: 28th Jun 2020 at 23:35

Posted by: scott wall (8) 

Thank you Doug, much appreciated

Replied: 29th Jun 2020 at 00:12

Posted by: whups (14196) 

hi dav , fancy going to the bottle stop ? .

Replied: 1st Jul 2020 at 00:03

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Yes Bri why not I would love go there.

Replied: 1st Jul 2020 at 00:12

Posted by: whups (14196) 

you remember it dont you dav at the bottom of soughers lane ? .

Replied: 1st Jul 2020 at 11:39

Posted by: bambam (3090)

yes i do Bri it's run by the tall guy with black hair.

Replied: 1st Jul 2020 at 12:21

Posted by: whups (14196) 

guess he lives nearby then ? .

Replied: 2nd Jul 2020 at 01:37

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I thought that but lads off landgate say he lives in Haydock.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2020 at 10:04

Posted by: whups (14196) 

maybe he comes from meadowcroft dav ? .

Replied: 2nd Jul 2020 at 11:14

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

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Replied: 2nd Jul 2020 at 13:09

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Him from the Bottle stop whups is a fully bread Yicker but at the moment he is grabbing all the goodies from Ashton .

Replied: 4th Jul 2020 at 17:19

Posted by: whups (14196) 

iv,e heard he lived on meadowcroft . am i wrong bentlegs ? .

Replied: 7th Jul 2020 at 11:17

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

It was made into two shops, I think the man your thinking of had the shop next door (well his wife had) he had the same name as you Brian

Replied: 7th Jul 2020 at 14:16

Posted by: whups (14196) 

it was called the bottle stop dougie & later went to a sandwich bar then jimmy travis,s sister june had it as a hairdresser salon . the guy who had it was believed to live somewhere on meadowcroft & his name was gavin ? .

Replied: 7th Jul 2020 at 17:29

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

I owned the shop, the flat upstairs and the land at the back. I bought it off Bobby Vincent in 1986. I started, and finished, Bottlestop. It ran for 20 years. It was a lucrative business.
I also bought 2 Grosvenor Wines outlets when they went bankrupt.

I never lived in Meadowcroft.

Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 23:21

Posted by: whups (14196) 

so it,s a bit rich comming from you when you call downall greeners scousers when your 1 yourself . at least we were born in wigan & until the boundry changes in the mid-seventies were still wiganers .

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 00:25

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Downall Green has been in St.Helens, Merseyside, for exactly the same time as Haydock has. And, like Haydock, it's never been in Wigan and neither has it ever been under Wigan council.

It has, however, been under Liverpool diocese since Methuselah was a lad.

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 00:42

Posted by: whups (14196) 

thats a load of claptrap & there,s people on here who will tell you how wrong you are . the haydock boundry is outside haydock park racecourse . downall green was in the wigan area & the boundry was at the s-bend just up from simms rd . your wrong . we only changed in the mid seventies.

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 01:48

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Downall Green was part of the Seneley Green Parish, in Ashton in Makerfield., for hundreds of years.
Never, ever, has it been in Wigan, as that would be physically impossible. Never, ever, has it been under Wigan council.

However, you'll be pleased to know that it is included in the WN postcode area, which means it's letters are delivered from the Royal Mail sorting office in WIGAN.
I hope that gives you some welcome relief from your mind-bending ideas regarding where you are / were / from / are likely to be in the future !

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 11:17

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yet again claptrap . we never heard the word "seneley green" until we changed boundries . it was always downall green or north ashton .if we were not in wigan then why did we go to wigan schools & ashton-in-makerfield was wigan number 4 area for deliveries or other. we still have audc manholes in downall green ? .maybe you shud concentrate on your own area near the owls nest ? .

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 12:03

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Claptrap is it? Commonly known as 'fact'.

Did you know that you could throw a stone, literally, from the Owls Nest to Seneley Green?

As for you never hearing the word (two words, actually) Seneley Green, well, anybody who paid rates (council tax) would have heard it, because they would have had to pay the 'parish precept' for living in it. But, again, that fact is probably too much for you to understand?

Another fact is, when the 'local government act 1972' was finalised, in 1972 (you know, the one that put Downall Green in St.Helens?) no boundaries were changed. Seneley Green Parish was included into St.Helens and the rest of Ashton in Makerfield was included in the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan .

Like I said earlier, before this date, Downall Green was under Ashton in Makerfield UDC. Haydock was under Haydock UDC.
Both are now in St.Helens, which is a Metropolitan Borough.

If you don't like it, complain to Conor McGinn, MP for St.Helens North.
Other than that ..... Suck it up, Buttercup!

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 13:59

Posted by: whups (14196) 

absolute rubbish . we never heard of "senely green " until we joined st helens . in fact why did we go to wigan schools instead of st helens schools ? . we are still called north ashton , where do you get this rubbish from & why do you come on this blog because it,s for ex downall greeners only .so suck that 1 up.

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 17:41
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Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Not even 'I' can put 'owt where there is nowt!

Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 18:52

Posted by: whups (14196) 

this is for bentlegs. there,s a rumour that the guy who had the bottle stop got done for selling booze to underage kids . is it true ? .

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 00:16
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Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Whups Seneley Green has been around since the mid 1500 but like you have said the name was never used till St Helens council started using it when they took over the running of Garswood /Downall Green

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 10:31

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Come off it whups did no one sell you cigarettes or booze before they should have, I know they sold it to us and I could put names on here that you would know

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 10:36

Posted by: whups (14196) 

iv,e never smoked in my life dougie & dont drink at home. but if someone broke the law then they shud be done for it . are you saying it,s ok to do that ? .dougie i,m suprised that you hav,nt commented about being called scousers & downall green being called senely green when your a "greener " ? .

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 12:17

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Can't believe people on here still on about is downallgreen in Wigan or st Helens I have no problems using 01942 or WN4 BUT SOON AS I USE ,01744 PROBLEMS SO THERE GO WHEN THIS DRINK DAVE

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 12:21

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, its my birthday tomorrow but only opening the pub on thurs it has been hard work fencing all car park off and preparing for re-opening, all beer now thrown down drain and fresh ale coming tue, so I will be having a pint thurs.

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 19:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Happy Birthday Dave fort morn hope everyone is ok and good luck wi pub pal

Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 22:20

Posted by: whups (14196) 

happy birthday dav . dont sup to many .

Replied: 14th Jul 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thanks Guys.

Replied: 14th Jul 2020 at 00:24

Posted by: kevndee (36)

Happy Birthday Dave
Kev says don`t go drinking all the sediment left in bottles !!!!!

Replied: 14th Jul 2020 at 12:12

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Ha Ha, thanks Kevndee will try not to I ain't seen any of you in a while I hope you both ok family as well, I will have a drink tonight thinking of you both and the good times we had in your house and red lion.

Replied: 14th Jul 2020 at 12:39

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

About Senley Green, Betty Lowe searched it when she was voted onto the local council and perswaded the local commitee to use Senlely Green because of the history,That is what iv,e been told,

Replied: 15th Jul 2020 at 15:24

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

A Morgue at the Blue Bell, Before Undertakers
got established local pubs were used to lay out the corpse, Every village had a pub with a large room upstairs used for weddings and parties but they were also used for the post mortem, the practice died out in the early 19th century, My Grandmother was one of what were called as layers out they would wash & fit the body with a shroud ready for the Doctor to examine them.

Replied: 15th Jul 2020 at 15:49

Posted by: whups (14196) 

wasnt betty lowe from billinge ? .

Replied: 15th Jul 2020 at 15:55

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Bri I know she lived in cottage off rectory rd, was she any relation to the guy who owned millingford engineering.

Replied: 15th Jul 2020 at 21:59

Posted by: whups (14196) 

not sure dav but she was in billinge the last time i knew. how did it go dav did you stay sober ? .

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 15:23

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Betty married Ramond Lowe, There were 3 cottages there & Ramond Lowe turned them into one house, George (Fud) Lowe was a partener in Millingford Engineering,

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 15:46

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Is this 'councillor' Betty Lowe, who was the Conservative Mayor of a staunch Labour area?

If so, she's been in Rainford for quite a while now.

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 18:16

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Yes Bri had a good time had all pub to myself, to be honest it was weird me sat in garden with all lights on all alone, but good turn out for the re-opening today I was a bit rough after tuesdays episode but all good training for future.

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 19:55

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Thanks bentlegs, I knew there was some connection with Millingford and cottage.

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 19:58

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

How 61 ney Dave then

Replied: 16th Jul 2020 at 22:31

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, I feel 91 this morning to old now be playing young men's games, where you been not heard from ya for a while.

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 11:53

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I Dave it's hard work supin Ney pal not been anywhere pal been reading posts tho I will keep in touch I will aft come your pub for a drink or 2

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 12:32

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

We have lost another Greener, Ann Wright was her maiden name dont know her married name She lived in Lilac Ave when the family first move in, RIP Ann,

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 15:37

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Tumtingle only remember a Enid Wright had a brother Jimmy Wright , if, so she married Jacky Marsh from Birchgrove, are I maybe getting mixed up anyway sorry to hear the loss of any Greener R.I.P. Anne

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 16:08

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I remember Enid and jack marsh they live on leyland green rd they lost a son at a very young age, there was john & Jacquline as well.

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 16:19
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Posted by: trixie (5050) 

I went to school with Pauline Wright Anne’s older sister she lived near bus stop ,married someone from Ashton but I can’t remember his name think it was Ken?

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 16:32

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Thank's for that Trixie didn't know her

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 18:40

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Whups Don't think I didn't see this, .dougie i,m suprised that you hav,nt commented about being called scousers & downall green being called senely green when your a "greener "

but I knew the truth before the change that a big mistake had been made with the brooks, has I've said before the brook they should have taken was the one to Pu-fall by the small child recreation park on Liverpool rd as you pointed out, have a look at the M6 on Lowe Bank Rd what they did so as not to cut Ashton in half or would have been a St-helener under Liverpool, he may have had something to turning it at the motorway to Liverpool Rd

Replied: 17th Jul 2020 at 20:54
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

dav have you heard about the guy who trains underage kids at ashton bears getting caught doing child pornography ? .

Replied: 19th Jul 2020 at 11:32

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Oh no, not another sad so called respected citizen taking advantage of the under aged, how do they get these positions to do this I hope the powers that be stop him in his tracks, and name and shame him.

Replied: 19th Jul 2020 at 14:39

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Ashton bears say the said person has not had anything to do with the club for a few years

Replied: 19th Jul 2020 at 18:54

Posted by: whups (14196) 

sorry guys it,s not child pornography but child grooming .

Replied: 20th Jul 2020 at 20:40

Posted by: bert (704)

Hi Malc i did not know Alf Ball was your grandad.I remember him falling of the bus near OurLadies.but it was a long time ago .Mrs Ball was lovely when she had the shop..And i knew Anne Wright who was Enids Sister,she was a school year older than me .she lived opposite our George on Lilac Avenue.she was a lovely woman.so sad to hear she had died.

Replied: 21st Jul 2020 at 18:46

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Ney Bert I wasn't born when grandad died but I heard the about insident of falling of bus I have not heard of Ged yet it's funny tho wi Leeds gaining promotion how are Bert

Replied: 21st Jul 2020 at 20:20

Posted by: whups (14196) 

hey dav do you know who lisalioness is from another site ? .

Replied: 23rd Jul 2020 at 13:02

Posted by: bambam (3090)

No Bri, I never seen that name before.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 10:01

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i,ll give you a call dav.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 10:33

Posted by: whups (14196) 

wots up guys , cat got your tongues ? .

Replied: 3rd Aug 2020 at 10:58

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Bri, back to work tonight been busy last 2 weeks setting pub up with daughter.

Replied: 3rd Aug 2020 at 14:55

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i know dav , but where are the others ? .

Replied: 3rd Aug 2020 at 16:28

Posted by: bambam (3090)

don't know Bri they do not seem to come on much these days, unless they on holiday.

Replied: 3rd Aug 2020 at 19:47

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Hi all !---Just like to congratulate the voluntary workers on the work they are doing in Downall Green church yard and thank them from an old man that as family in there but can only look after one grave and the surrounding path
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I was up at the Rectory Church on Saturday afternoon and to my surprise there were quite a few volunteer workers which was nice to see, will nip up and take a few photo's I would like to ask one question ,

Someone as made a first class job of Rector Williams grave and headstone it's on the right hand corner as you walk into the down, what I would like to ask anyone over the age of 80 remember the full sized glass dome that covered the headstone and as anyone got a photo of it
Come on Robin Green you must remember it as I do when we were a small village

Replied: 3rd Aug 2020 at 21:11
Last edited by dougie: 3rd Aug 2020 at 21:16:23

Posted by: bert (704)

Hi Dougie i remember there being a few glass dome sup and down the grave stones.and nobody ever touched them.i dont think they would be safe nowadays.

Replied: 4th Aug 2020 at 12:40

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

An old word came up yesterday, I'll just put the word on here anyone know where it would be or a place you would find it used, used a lot in the old days " Welting " Tumtingle will know that's for sure

Replied: 5th Aug 2020 at 10:51
Last edited by dougie: 9th Aug 2020 at 06:22:14

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Hey Dougie, Tumtingle's not a Real Welter!

Replied: 5th Aug 2020 at 11:07

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Tumtell. Tonker was never a Leccy he was always asleep up Razza Road,
Welting was a thin strip of leather round the sole of a clog covering the joint between the to half & the sole,
Kenny Cunliffe could do Tonkers job, Harold Hunter loved him.

Replied: 5th Aug 2020 at 12:48

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Roy Darbyshire! Roy Darbyshire!

I was more qualified than Harold Hunter and working knee-deep in slutch was beneath me. I refused to work in certain places, so he sent Mick Rowlands instead. I also refused to work shifts and got away with it. They didn't like that!!
Anyway, it was too cold up t'razzer road. My den was over the offices in the lecky shop or sat in "compost corner" with spud and madmon!

And giving somebody a good "Welting" used to mean giving them a bloody good hiding!
Dust'know nowt?

Replied: 5th Aug 2020 at 13:13
Last edited by tonker: 5th Aug 2020 at 13:16:02

Posted by: whups (14196) 

you,d know that coz you got your arse kicked up & down the golden ball .

Replied: 6th Aug 2020 at 00:17

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

"arse kicked up & down the golden ball" , eh.?

It's fun, making up stories,innit! Anyroadup, I don't remember anything about it, and it's not surprising, because I wasn't there when it happened!

But, I know who didn't 'kick my arse up & down the golden ball', and that's thee!

Replied: 6th Aug 2020 at 18:04

Posted by: whups (14196) 

making up stories ? . i know the guy who did it because you falsely accused him of scratching your car .and if it had of been me there would only be 2 hits , me hitting you & you hitting the floor.

Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 00:15
Last edited by whups: 7th Aug 2020 at 00:17:18

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

If you think you could manage me, it can be arranged. How much are you willing tolay on the table?

As for the car scratching incident, I remember that. However, I wasn't involved in that. Davvi Marsh saw the guy do it. Davv igave him a good slapping, not me. The police were called, I gotthe blame for assaulting him. Notthe other way round.

Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 10:04

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i certainly can manage you that,s no problem . you think people on here dont know who you are gavin & i know you were involved . do you still live across on the estate from the owls nest .

Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 11:34

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

You wouldn't stand a chance against me. You short-arsed little dumpling!
Next time you see me, introduce yourself!

Now. First, I never lived near any 'Owl's Nest'.
That's cleared that. Next, the car scratching incident. In detail.
I'm in that off-licence one night. Davvi comes in and tells me that he'd just seen one mon scratch my black Porsche all down one side.
He said, "He's gone in t'Ball, I'm goin' o'er theer and draggin' 'im out"! I told him to leave it, but he wouldn't be told.
Davvi dragged him, kicking and screaming, out of the Ball and threw him into the shop.
He denied doing it., so Davvi slapped him about for calling him a liar.
Next night, the Police arrived as the lad had reported that I had told him to do it.
Next time you see Davvi, ask him!

That lad was, months later, sacked from Heinz's for scratching a lot of cars in the car park on night shift.

Nobody ever kicked my arse at the Golden Ball.


Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 22:15

Posted by: whups (14196) 

your full of shit & i,m not all that short 6ft . i know your a long piece of piss or i would,nt have said owt . your all piss & wind .our david still says it,s you & knows where you live & it,s on the estate near the owl .your no threat to me & just because you maybe a couple of inches taller & 10 yrs younger doesnt make you any favourite . you aint got a good reputation & if i ever introduce myself you.ll know about it soft lad. & it wasnt the ball then , try flanagans.

Replied: 8th Aug 2020 at 00:20

Posted by: tonker (28647) 

Like I said. I'm 62 years old, and still pressing 280lb on a bench. I'd snap you in two!

Introduce yourself. I'll give you first swipe, then I'll knock the daylights out of you and suffer the consequences.

Don't believe all you're told!

Replied: 8th Aug 2020 at 20:52

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Dougie, thanks for the kind words, was nice to see you again today,

Replied: 8th Aug 2020 at 21:22

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Now Dave how's pub doing as it started back well Brian arguing wi that other fellow there gee the sell s wobbles the daft sods

Replied: 8th Aug 2020 at 23:53

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi Malc, pub doing well been working hard to get it back up and running, yes just been reading what's been going on I am ashamed of what tonker has put on this thread he always rams politics and his personal opinions down people's throats, this happens on all other threads he visits and it winds people up I would think less if he was and angel but he clearly isn't, I set this peaceful thread up for past and present dwellers of the estate we all grew up in, things have changed over the years with the residents having no say in the matters,I love the thread and love to get feed back from people all over the globe it's such a shame to have to read people's vindictive posts who have never had anything to do with the estate, I really hope it doesn't stop folks from posting.

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 00:37

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Warr33---keep up the good work

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 06:32
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Dave glad your up and running pal I not been in any pub yet leave bit longer is your mam all right take care are you still doing security in market in Wigan

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 07:06

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hi dougie they are doing good job in graveyard I know a few of them I know the Lady and gent you have the old vicarage what a dwelling that its a lovely owd building

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 07:16

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Glad to hear that the graveyard is being cleared..My wifes family grave is at the bottom of the graveyard past the tarmac section and was bad under foot to get to and impossible for my wife to get anywhere near to the grave I presume the old vicarage has been done up and if so will outlast the new vicarage. I will have to have a walk round the graveyard some time.

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 09:03

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Jouell from Florida sends her love to all her friends on WW, she ha not been well for a couple of months but is on the mend,

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 10:39

Posted by: whups (14196) 

you shud change your name from tonker to tosser. 280lb that,s chicken feed like iv,e said your full of it & can still give you years.

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 13:37
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Warr33--was you the one from I was talking too by the graves or the one cleaning the church steps,
You may have seen me taking photos round the grave yard I made sure no people are on any photo, I could upload them on here but I feel it's up to you that part but I be-leave your having a meet-up so I've printed some off for you to show others that's not on the computer, just nipping up to give to some one to do with as you wish [:t

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 14:23
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Posted by: Warr33 (41)

hI Dougie, yes me on the steps, take whatever photos you like with whoever, its no problem, we take photos all the time for facebook Friends of Seneley Green page, its nice that your showing an interest, upload any you like, its no problems as all, nice to talk to you again, see you soon

Replied: 9th Aug 2020 at 21:21

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I HAVE ONLY UPLOADED THESE FEW PHOTO'S TO SHOW THE PEOPLE FROM THE VILLAGE THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE IN THE CHURCH YARD, I MYSELF HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VOLUNTEERS DOING THE WORK
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Just testing this Slideshow to see if it works so that anytime I walk through the Graveyard and take new photo's of things that you've done, I can add them so the Village, can see the work your doing ( I can and will delete if asked any or all photo's)Click photo and go full screen

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Much better these steps other photo's I could upload but your better seeing it for yourself to give encouragement to them and have a chat , Saturdays is the day they are in

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 00:56
Last edited by dougie: 11th Aug 2020 at 21:44:26

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Nice to have volunteers working in the graveyard. Its a pity they cannot use the people who get community service(throu the courts)or would this infringe on their civil liberties

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 10:54

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Hi Peter as I've said only by having a walk round can you appreciate the work they are doing, they may not say it them self but they always need a bit of cash if only to buy weedkiller and gloves, I hope people don't forget this when visiting a family grave and think it's looking nice

The two headstones you see have been picked-up and peace's put back one waiting pointing


Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 11:30
Last edited by dougie: 10th Aug 2020 at 11:41:18

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

When I was asking about the glass dome over Rectory William's headstone and did anyone remember it , only Burt said he could so come on make this the staring point next time you visit your Mum and Dad or any old person, it will be like opening a can of worms what it will lead too about Downall Green the thing's we have stored at the back of our brains that we never think of these days, THANK AGAIN to all you helpers I've never seen this looking so nice in my life time

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 18:26

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Many Thanks dougie for the photos .they are doing a fantastic job.its very good of you to spread the good word around and the time everyone is giving to do it.
Thanks everybody.xx

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 19:34

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Thanks for the photos Dougie, just for the record if anyone is interested theres a Friends of Seneley Green Facebook page with loads of photos on, but post whatever pictures you want Dougie,its good to have someone else taking photos, and thanks for all the kind messages, much appreciated

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 20:13

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Is that warr 33 warren of leyland green rd you are doing a fantastic job

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 22:15

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Yea it us, thanks, the team are doing well, made good progress,

Replied: 10th Aug 2020 at 22:43

Posted by: RobinG (451)

Hi Dougie and Trixie and all the old Downall Greeners, thought that I had better reply since Dougie had mentioned me. As others have commented, the site is not as friendly as it once was, with people arguing and falling out and others trying to be clever in using words and dialects that have never been used before. I think that life down here in the Garden of England must be very much the same as your life up there, we are all getting older and cannot do anything to stop it. I am glad that village life seems to be picking up and that the graveyard is being taken care of, I remember when I joined the men of the bible class and others in cleaning the paths and surrounds over 60 years ago. My family are all growing up fast, my eldest grandson is now 29 and running a bar/restaurant in the centre of Manchester and my youngest granddaughter is 14 and training hard to be a champion skier in Canada, how life changes. Unfortunately, because of the present pandemic I am being very careful with my lifestyle and watching what I do. I hope that you are all taking care of yourselves, one of these days when things are getting back to normal I would hope to come up to Wigan and see the changes that have taken place in the old place.

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 00:14

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I don't think we should lose the Downallgreen dialects it's always been spoke

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 05:30

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Hi RobinG ,great to hear from you.hope you are well.
Yes the families are growing ,we have got 2 great grandsons now 1and 2 years old.our eldest grandaughter is 31 now.its great to get news updates from everyone,sometimes I wished I still lived there and miss old friends .

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 07:45

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

trixie---Took the photo's laminated yesterday to give the workers didn't see anyone to give them too, BUT---
I had an enjoyable hour I dropped on an old Villager her Mam is 91 that's where she was going I could have done another hour with Her, her Mam, and myself over a cup of tea talking about the old days as her family had lived in Rectory Rd going back to 1800's

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 08:56

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Dougie I hope you did not break any lock down rules

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 09:37

Posted by: whups (14196) 

is warr33 warren murphy ? .

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 14:26

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Don't know you warr33 but knew your Mam and Dad very well even before the married, I've deleted this post and moved it up as my point is just to add photo's for the future of the Village and the work you have done over the years, have a look and just click on the photo of the steps and go full screen



Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 20:34
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Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Bri it is me Warren, and Dougie great video, appreciated

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 21:30

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

I remember gravedigger s hut vincent Jones he was in bell one neet and someone said that grave don't look deep a nough he said don't worry they won't be getting out he was a rumun was Vincent

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 22:25

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

warr33 said to me--we take photos all the time for face book Friends of Seneley Green page, its nice that your showing an interest,

So can you upload the link for us on Ex-Greeners page here so it will open without us having to be a member, only to look at your site without any commenting on anything or adding things, I have tried but they want you to join

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 22:43
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

The work that team is doing is fantastic, it's a credit to them it will be so nice now for people who have past loved ones resting in there, I will go up and make a donation keep up the good work warren so proud of you pal and your team.

Replied: 11th Aug 2020 at 23:16

Posted by: whups (14196) 

glad to see you on here warren .

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 00:00

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Dougie I dont use Facebook and went onto F of S Green site and just ignored the facebook page and clicked on photos and looked at the good work that is being done in the graveyard

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 10:49

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

WILL COME BACK TO THIS map needs turning, in the photo all the land in blue is church land, the bottom field was bought off a farmer from Garswood 'Waterworth's' till required as a second grave yard when needed, as the church yard was getting full in 1960 should get some good feed back from this
--map here--

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 11:32
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Good map is that. pig st at top of church st Dougie or was it what locals. called it because there was pig pens there on old maps I've seen their is no pig st

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 20:54

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Dougie, as far as Im aware you dont need to join the FOSG group to see the photos, Ive checked the settings and it says anyone can see the photos or post comments,
https://www.facebook.com/Friends-of-Seneley-Green-427734417778447
you can copy and paste this link on google and it will direct you straight to the page. Theres loads of photos for you to peruse through, and thanks everyone for all your kind words, and Dougie cheers for the interest, hopefully see you Sat, we have a chipper coming

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 21:25

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

And Bambam make sure you give us a shout, there on Saturdays from 10am, good to hear from you.

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

warr33 Thank's got it sorted this Morning Peter helped me out as when it kept asking me to join just two small words right at the bottom "not now" if you click that you can look at the photo's all day,

Did you get the laminated photo's I left for you, if it was me I would have asked Kevin at the garden centre if he had some room to put them on display, so if any visitors having a look round to his place seeing them could work across the road on a nice day to see what your getting upto,

Kevin is RC not C of E but Downall green through and through do anything for anyone will Kevin

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 23:00

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Bambam I will second your donation bit if only for weedkiller and gloves as that will be the hardest task to keep on top off , hopefully they will not have to go back on the work they have done,

Looks like we will not get for that drink I promist so I'll give some to the team instead maybe one day I'll meet some of you as I knew most of your dads in their hay-day

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 23:14
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi dougie, I was planning go up there on Saturday but don't know what's going occur now as we had to close pub today due to the down pour, the cellar was flooded and blown all electrics I was waist deep trying to salvage what I could, beer garden got flooded as well but i got a couple of days to try sort things, I will still try and get up there and see warren and the work they have been doing, and a pint in bell if it's open ha ha remember the saying it doesn't rain it pours.

Replied: 12th Aug 2020 at 23:35

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Hope you get that sorted Dave nothing worse I Dougie Kevin has done a cracking on pen down the years with son Carl good people there's not many bad greene s tho

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 07:04

Posted by: whups (14196) 

there,s not many true greeners left malc.

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 11:31

Posted by: bambam (3090)

The work that team is doing is fantastic, it's a credit to them it will be so nice now for people who have past loved ones resting in there, I will go up and make a donation keep up the good work warren so proud of you pal and your team.

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 16:20

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

I may have forgot but Jouell sends her love to her friends on WW, She has not be very well for a while but she is picking up.

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 18:02

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi, thanks for the messages of encouragement, it is like the Forth Bridge regarding the weeds, we have to be mindful of the voles and hedgehogs so cant be using too many chemicals, anyhow were on it like a car bonnet, btw this is the wife haha

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 22:19

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Got you, no way would I buy any weedkiller, gloves, or anything else all that I was saying to bambam I would follow him with a donation if only it helped you to buy something to keep the weeds down, if you ever get the chance walk round too where Rector Hall is you will see I have always kept the path and Mam & Dads grave well looked after but you will never know how much I appreciate what your team is doing for the church-yard,
Someone should give you the photo's as I stressed they were to be given to Warr33 or any volunteer worker.

Replied: 13th Aug 2020 at 22:48
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Warren wife Elane brains behind all this ney iam not saying others are not but Elane is forward thinking good lass well done keep up the good work all of you MOT

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 07:15

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Hi All,--Been looking at your photo's from Saturday and printed a few off like this one hopping you can find some use for them by putting them on show, so the rest of the Village can see the good work the team of Volunteers is doing as everyone as not got a computer, you may already have someone that prints them off to put on show, did anyone give you last weeks photo's as I asked, KEEP-UP the good work
Test of new photo's

Replied: 16th Aug 2020 at 18:46
Last edited by dougie: 17th Aug 2020 at 07:22:22

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

This is especially for Kevin Duffy at the Garden Centre just to let you know all the people on the estate would like you to join WW can you not get someone to help you out with it, nice having a chat today
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IF YOUR NOT A MEMBER OF FACE, --Click here all photo's-- --click not now,-- click the photo,-- use arrow on right to see all photo's,

Replied: 16th Aug 2020 at 20:39
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

condolances to the family of paul manacheski who died on tuesday from a heart attack at the wheel on the M6 . i know this lads not a greener but i,m sure there,s a lot who would know him .

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 11:24

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Sorry to hear about it, as we knew Paul from being a young lad growing up, with us also living on Rose Hill in the 60s, R.I.P. Paul

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 12:16

Posted by: whups (14196) 

he was 62 dougie.

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 15:03

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

Dougie meant 1960's not his age

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 16:19

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

RIP PAUL GOOD LAD

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 20:12

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Your right Peter I did mean 1963 we moved on the hill at that time Him and his Mam & Dad lived with his grandmother in the detached house just before the school,

Peter you said---Glad to hear that the graveyard is being cleared..My wifes family grave is at the bottom of the graveyard past the tarmac section and was bad under foot to get to and impossible for my wife to get anywhere near to the grave.
Well Peter I don't know if I should be saying this but they are putting someone on family graves for a donation to the graveyard found, they have just done one in that section you should see it it's first class job, it looks like they have a dedicated team of volunteers this time that will need all the financial help and encouragement they can get

Replied: 20th Aug 2020 at 21:21

Posted by: sammys (328) 

Was in my year at school was a nice gentleman and always happy to help at the garage if I had any problems RIP paul

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 00:12

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes i know that dougie & i wasnt mentioning his time at rose hill . i was just putting his age on for those who want to know how old he was , but some numptys think a diferent mentality ? .

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 00:16

Posted by: bambam (3090)

such a shock I remember paul very well, lovely chap R.I.P Paul.

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 00:25

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I hope you can find a space somewhere in your working area for this Photo board so as people walking through the gate the can see the hard work that's going on by all the volunteers that's been mustard, only a suggestion on the old toilet block wall facing the path as it would be an ideal spot if you wished to put it on display

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 10:36
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Hello everybody, I havn't been on here for a few years. Some of you will know me. My user name used to be jondav if anyone remembers me.
Anyway we moved into Hawthorn Ave. in July 1948 as first tenants. I should think most of the estate was built by then. I went to Rectory school from 1950 to 1957 then Ashton Sec. Mod. till 1961. I moved out in 1968 when I got married. It's good to be back.

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 10:44
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

hi john i know who you are & i still live in hawthorn ave . know your family , your george & barbara .

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 11:30

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

You are correct whups but you have the better of me. Do I know you?

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 13:30

Posted by: suesa (646)

Welcome back John. I asked your Barbara how you were doing only 2 days ago. Nice to have you here again x

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 13:44
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Hiya Susan how are you, and how's your Kevin and Brent going on?

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 13:53

Posted by: suesa (646)

Our Brent is at his home in Australia, locked down like us in the UK. Sadly our Kevin passed away 2 years ago. I thought you knew. It was leukemia that took him.

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 14:22
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

John D---Don't know you but I knew your Dad the first time we met it was a sad time and I was at a low point, let the demon drink get the better of me you'll not remember me as I was a complete stranger in you company

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 16:43

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Sue, I'm so sorry to hear of your Kevins passing. I think Barbara told me at
the time but my memory is not what it was.I bumped into him at Kevin Duffys garden centre a few years ago. John D.

Replied: 21st Aug 2020 at 18:22

Posted by: whups (14196) 

john i live next door to kevin duffys sister tracey .

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 00:06

Posted by: bert (704)

Welcome back John,you have been missed.How is your George,he is my age.not seen him for years,since he stopped working in the hospital..

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 09:44

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Even though I now live in North Wales it's nice to keep in touch.
I was wandering if anybody knew how many council houses were built on the estate between 1946 and 1948/9. Also how many different styles are there. I know they are all semi detached 2 or 3 bedrooms but are there any with 4 bedrooms? It would be interesting to know. John D.

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 10:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16307)

A girl got into a taxi once, (true story this) it was in the early 1990s or it may have been the late 1980s

She was a scouse girl, and I am saying girl, that is being kind, she would have been in her 30s and she was from Liverpool,

This was in Wigan, and she said to the Wigan taxi driver, who was a Wiganer

In her best scouse accent she said "yeahh can yoo take us Downhall Green"

She was speaking in the plural, but she was on her own

The driver said in his best Wigan accent

"Awreet Love"

And she is sat in the back, and probably a bit drunk, and so the driver drives from Wigan, through Goose Green and past Landgate and then he drove up Soughers Lane, and at the top of Soughers Lane the driver turned to the woman/girl and said

"weer too luv"

The girl woke up and said

"This isn't Hall Green" as in Upholland

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 11:11

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes there is john . at the island on elm & further up near the top of elm.

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 12:23

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I also knew someone that started work in Haydock foundry at 17 in 1954 when asked where he came from he said "Denner Green", Ho that menses Hall Green, No up-Downer Green, Never hard of it and from that day he was known as "Denner" from Up-downhall Green

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 12:45

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Hello Bert, how are you? And how's Shirley and June? The last time I saw you all was at the Rectory school anniversary in 2009.
George is retired now but he's still busy as a councillor. Barbara is busy
looking after her 2 grandchilden while their mum and dad are working.

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 14:36

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Jack there are 8 four bed room houses on the dag 2 lots in elm 2lots in birch gr then 2 ont island ether in pop or again in elm

Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 16:52

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Greeners or ex-Greeners pop in and have a look they need as much encouragement and support as they can get it's like painting the forth-bridge never ending. I remember walking through on my way to school as a 4 year old


Replied: 22nd Aug 2020 at 23:03
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

looking well there warren with your wellies on .

Replied: 23rd Aug 2020 at 00:06

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

I've done a count (with help from google maps) and I estimate that there were 222 council houses built just after the war. Good solid houses with all mod cons. Fitted kitchens including a fridge. Indoor toilet and bathroom. Wash house and coal place. Gardens front and back. We didn't realise how well off we were.
Its now over seventy years since they were built, I reckon theyll be good for another seventy.
By the way I never realised I was a scouser, chuffed to little mint balls I am. Jondav.

Replied: 23rd Aug 2020 at 15:39
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Anyone from Cansfield school remember going to the church for this Carol service in 1982 as we must have attended but can't remember it

You may have seen this John D, how nice the estate still looks after 70 years if not look at this link---------D.G, Estate--

Replied: 23rd Aug 2020 at 16:26
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Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Hi Dougie, re your link. Nice to see how tidy the estate has been kept after all these years and again how the new houses have blended in with the old.

Replied: 23rd Aug 2020 at 19:18

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Thanks Dougie, Its still looking good apart from all the cars. I suppose that's progress and something we have to put up with. It beats going waiting for a bus especially when the weathers bad. Jondav.

Replied: 24th Aug 2020 at 11:14
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Posted by: bert (704)

H i Jack the lad.wrong Thompson they are Davids sisters.we lived in the Four bedroom on the roundabout on Elm avenue,there was ten of us.and that tale about the scouse girl in the taxi,it happened to me ,i went to Billinge to a history meeting with my brother in law. and later phoned for a taxi.when he came he said where you going,and when i said Bryn hesaid we dont go to wales at night and drove of.so i had to go back in pub and have another pint .while i waited for another.

Replied: 25th Aug 2020 at 11:02

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Sorry Bert I'm getting confused in my old age.. They are my cousins that lived in Cedar grove with their step brothers Albert and David Thompson.
Their mother Annie married my uncle Tommy Sutton from Garswood.

Replied: 25th Aug 2020 at 14:33

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

bet it didn't take much for an about turn Bert

Replied: 25th Aug 2020 at 14:35

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

thanks Bri, can't beat a good pair of odd wellies. by the way i'm in the presence of our downall green historian and true gentleman, Dougie.

Replied: 25th Aug 2020 at 20:29

Posted by: whups (14196) 

who,s that at the bottom right hand side warren ? .

Replied: 26th Aug 2020 at 11:41

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

It's Lauren our niece Bri. Howards daughter.

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 10:51

Posted by: whups (14196) 

does she live on lilac warren ? .

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 10:53

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Yes she does, next door to where Ian used to live with the mad growing hedges. Did any body play Grand National around the estate when they were kids, my what scamps they were.

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 16:09

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Jack the lad: Interesting that you should mention Annie Sutton, she is/was my Godmother. Can you work out who I am without any of the others telling you? If I remember correctly, you went to Central School at the same time my brother did.

Dougie: Do you take a camera with you when you go to the churchyard? If you do, would you help me by doing me a small favour?

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 16:12

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes warren i think most of us did . wot about lamposts & grids . do you remember that .

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 16:44

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Joe--Is your Man, Dad, & Brother in the churchyard iv they are and you wish them to find it for a donation, they would put someone on it take a photo before and after if you asked nicely they would put a bunch of flowers on off you real or artificial with you living so faraway

--Have you seen this link 1 Joe

--have you seen these link 2 Joe--

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 17:00
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Posted by: uncle joe (708)

I hadnt seen it Dougie, but have now. The thing I am looking for is a photo of a particular headstone. I know the grave is somewhere in there, but exactly where I have no idea.

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 17:05

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

I remember playing kerby and squares with a football,that squares game could go on all day .I never played lamposts and grids how did that go?.

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 17:07

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Uncle Joe, if you can send us the names on the headstone and possibly some dates we will locate it for you and get pictures, its no problem at all. Were there tomorrow but then again only live down road but we can sort out some pictures for you. Elaine (the mrs)

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 18:07

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

We used to play lampost football at the top end of Leyland Green Rd. The idea was to kick a ball and score a goal by hitting the lampost

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 19:39

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Elaine--Your going worldwide here as Uncle Joe lives in Sweden so ho knows if other ex-pats are looking in on your good work

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 20:09

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Ah thanks Dougie, your a star, we will help where we can, its no problem, see you soon,

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 22:20

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Warren I remember thi scoring that beltter of a goal at Farrell s at springview n cricket on Skoo field he he I bet thy still sore yet how wi doing pal

Replied: 28th Aug 2020 at 23:03

Posted by: whups (14196) 

lamposts & grids was a game of chase where you could only cross over the road where there was a lampost or a grid . mounting up was another warren .

Replied: 29th Aug 2020 at 00:14

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Dougie/Warr33: The name on the headstone is Absalom Bailey. The date would be around 1930/31, I'm not exactly sure. He was my great grandfather.

Replied: 29th Aug 2020 at 06:56

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Mounting up n gates was brill and square s we used start top of Elm allway down to bottom take ages finish bri you see kids playing Ney jumping edges bril

Replied: 29th Aug 2020 at 19:56

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Dougie, Warren went looking for you today, think he just missed you.
Uncle Joe, we have been looking for the grave today, not yet found it, have you any idea whereabouts it may be?

Replied: 29th Aug 2020 at 21:51

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Uncle JOE........?
Marriage: 21 Nov 1891 Holy Trinity, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Absalom Bailey - 25, Coaler, Bachelor, Brynn Gates
Sarah Rogers - 20, Spinster, Brynn Gates
Groom's Father: Richard Bailey, Coaler
Bride's Father: Stephen Rogers, Coaler
Witness: John Henry Rogers; Leah Hargreaves
Married by banns by: J. C. Cater

Replied: 29th Aug 2020 at 21:54

Posted by: gaffer (8190) 

Absolom Bailey died during the third quarter of 1933. He and wife Sarah were born in Old Park Shropshire.

1901 census shows them living at 628 Bolton Road, Bryn Gates. They were still living here in 1920.
Children. Thomas born 1893,Leah born 1894, Jane Ellen born 1895, Jemimah born 1898, Lily born 1901.

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 09:38

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

How's that uncle joe and you only asked me for a small favor some good people on here , you see you will get your photo

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 10:03

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Malc, still running around both pitches screaming in joy and pain.I'm doing alright (apart from a nut the size of football haha)god times and laughs had by all.Do you remember building them flood lights on field across from your house,car headlights powered by car batteries genius.

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 10:20

Posted by: whups (14196) 

here,s another for you warren , a game called "people in our street" .

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 14:06

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Warr33/Gaffer: Thanks for the informatiom. I've no idea whereabouts the grave migh be. I only found out he was buried there a couple of years ago, so I've never seen it. If my guess is correct, then there should be some other Bailey graves in there as well.

Dougie: You are correct, there are some good people on here. There are some good people that lived on the estate back then that dont post as well. I wonder if they read these threads?

Mentioning games we played: How many remember playig piggy on the croft, and the rope swing in the woods near the railway line?

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 14:46

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

People in our street is it ?
In Hawthorn I knew all these young people during the 50s and 60s .
(starting at number one)
1/ Robin Hughes ,
3/? 5/?
7/ Andy and Allan Spratt
9/ Keith and Barry Fairhurst
11/ Patricia and Geoff Williams
13/ Barbara Cross then Kevin, Brent, Susan and Elaine Atherton
15/ Enid Yeates then Duncan, John, and Colin McPherson
17/ Keith, John and Janet Turner then Irene Lowe
21/ Molly Ainscough
23/ Pam, Tony and Christine Wild, Jimmy Halliwell
25/ Gwylem Hughes
27/ Margaret, Norman and Stephen Prescott
29/ Christeen Woolley 31/?
Going back the other way:-
44/ Raymond Prescott
42/ Anne, Marie and Charlie Smith
40/ ? 38/ Eileen, David and John Tattum
36/ Stuart and Roger Melling
34/ ? 32/ Pamela and Phillip Baines
30/ Colin Walford then Margaret Cardwell
28/ Ronnie and John Lawton
26/ Doreen Simm
24/ ? 22/ ?
20/ Margaret and Stephen? Beasley
18/ Eric and David Atkinson
16/ ? 14/ Moira, Wilfred and Dennis Hobson
12/ to 2/ ?
I wonder how many of these are still with us? Jondav.

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 15:34
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Joe-- Have a look on ex-pats under U.K. (you should see my name) I've been testing it out to see if I'm able to upload links for all ex-pats all over the world but it will not let me load a direct link, you have to click & paste will you try it for me but you have already seen them

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 15:42

Posted by: uncle joe (708)

Dougie, I just tried them. As you say, it had to be a cut and paste but they did work for me.

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 16:11

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Warr33--this was a quick run-through the graveyard this morning don't judge the video or my talking I can do much better assure you I will Delete this as you may like to watch before I do --Video here--

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 16:16
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Posted by: Brocstedes1 (3)

Can I interrupt today's very interesting discussions to ask a question.

I think I remember somebody, on an older Ex Downall Greeners thread, said that they had an old sketch of the Coroners Nook houses in Brocstedes Road.
Can anybody help, please.

Replied: 30th Aug 2020 at 20:12

Posted by: whups (14196) 

hawthorn 3 & 5 where duffys & sammy prior . after sammy died we moved in from birch grove . can add more names to your list jondav.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 00:03
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

I'd be grateful for more names thanks whups.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 09:02

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hi Bri,great game naming people of our street, never heard of it till now. Does anybody know who lived at 33 Leyland green road pre 1962?

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 09:50

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Pownall was 16.Hawthorne Avenue.and me.????
Hobson was next door then Atkinsons .beesleys

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 09:54

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Trixie are you a Pownall and related to Bernice Hughes?

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 11:16

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

whupsy by whups . A few years ago you pulled me up about revealing your age and name on this site, the details had been previously shown by yourself.(60th birthday plus photos with your name and the street you lived in). NOW YOU are revealing your door number on this siteYou have invited members to call round to discuss matters one day some one may take you up on the offer now they know where you live.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 11:25
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

that,s for ME to decide partridge not you & i did,nt appriciate you divulging it which is still the case & why dont you come round to discuss matters & i,m quite capable of discussing "matters" with anyone who wants to go down that road , now go back to sleep . valerie melling , ann & june wilde john hughes, diane woolley,my grandmother ada shaw @31,roy mcphearson, joe lindsey becca lindsey susan & david lindsey,pownalls @ 16,the darbyshires @12, nick doyle & daughter pat & 8,tickles @ 4 , tommy & thelma simm @ 2.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 12:32
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Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Mr Higham at No. 40 and I think he still lives there.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 14:47

Posted by: whups (14196) 

your right warren ,but who was there before derek ? & macnulltys across from no 31 . another 1 for you warran , crossbar .

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 14:48
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Thanks whups, I should have remembered Roy Mcpherson, Anne and June Wilde and the Lindseys. Also have a very vague memory of Valerie Melling. Jondav.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 15:38

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes jondav valerie was in my class at the rectory . sister to roger & stuart also christine woolleys sister diane. do you ever remember mcnulltys living at the end of hawthorn ave ? .

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 15:47

Posted by: bert (704)

Terry and pat Riley lived at the bottom of the steps,before Tommy Simm moved in .Peter Mcnulty moved to the other end of Hawthorn,when Ray Prescot,moved.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 16:11

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Peter Mcnulty rings a bell but I don't remember Diane Woolley at all. Did Dougie Collingwood live there before the Woolleys? Jondav.

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 18:17

Posted by: suesa (646)

Christine Wooleys sister is Denice. Bert is correct with Terry and Pat Riley {my cousins} at No. 2 with my auntie Marion and Uncle Jack. Next to them at 4was Hazel and John Tickle. Think next door to them at 6 was Margaret Phail

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 22:36
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Posted by: suesa (646)

No. 10 was Alan and Ralph Derbyshire

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 22:40
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

my mistake susan your right .who lived next door @ no 12 ? .

Replied: 31st Aug 2020 at 23:58

Posted by: Dagutd27 (690) 

Morning Warren I I remember doing leets first floodlit game in Ashton he he they looked like a candle in a wet sock but it was good all the same pal take care I will come up to church been doing several jobs ont house and round garden but will come are you still driving

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 06:30

Posted by: suesa (646)

Well Brian, I remember Gladys Gilligan living at number 12. Can't remember who lived there before. I'll see if my mum can shed light on that one. After Hobsons Jean Eden lived at number 14

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 10:35

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

After Hobsons 12, Jean Eden lived at number 14, Me and Bert go way back it was Cartright's from new same as Bert said about Rily's living at number 2

P.S, As for playing things on the croft, Bert will remember arrow throwing and it getting stopped

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 11:08
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Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes i remember them both susan .do you remember the indian women that lived in no14 ? .

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 12:11

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

The Indian woman was Mrs Hobson. I seem to remember them being evicted as were the Turners at no. 17. Jondav.

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 12:27

Posted by: suesa (646)

With help from mum Nick Doyle lived at number 8. We think Arthur Shaw's mum and dad moved in after Nick Doyle left

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 16:23

Posted by: suesa (646)

22 was Joe Littler and 24 was Margaret Potter (Hurst)

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 16:27

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Warr33--just moved this link down before I delete it off youtube all together , just in case you didn't see it ,
Warr33--this was a quick run-through the graveyard this morning don't judge the video or my talking I can do much better I assure you, I will Delete this as soon as you have watched it --Video here--

P,S,-Tell the people why I've put this on here----For you Robin G--

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 16:53
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Thanks for the input Susan. Jondav.

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 18:00

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Uncle JOE, Ive looked for the grave at the front and both sides of the church, cant find it in there, will check the back. Weve asked for Mr Finney to check the records but the old ones are hard to follow but we will keep looking, apparently the family had 12 kids with only 7 survivng which is what I read on the census. Regards The Mrs.

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 21:02

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Dougie, great video, Ive sent a link to our volunteers, they said its brilliant. thank you very much.

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 21:04

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Will leave another few days before I delete then I was thinking you may have missed it, also uploaded the photo link for Robin he may tell you why

Replied: 1st Sep 2020 at 21:19

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes arthur shaw & his wife moved from 56 poplur to no 6 hawthorn .but susan nick doyle died in that house as did arthur shaws wife @no 6 . they used to go between each others house vis a gate in the fence at the back.

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 00:07

Posted by: suesa (646)

Brian, I didn't know Nick Doyle passed away there, I assumed he moved house

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 00:18

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i,m sure he passed on there susan & not long after arthur shaw passed on the same way .

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 11:10

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Yes jack the lad Bernice was my auntie .my mams sister

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 16:12
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

What was your mams name Trixie? and give me a clue who you are. Jondav.

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 18:34

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Dougie, no need to delete the video, its great.

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 19:29

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

--I had it on part zoom that's what did it will know for next time to check, have a look under my name at my actfinity blog on your site, I've uploaded four video's knowing I can change or delete if you wish me too but not a bit satisfied with the two running through churchyard video's

Replied: 2nd Sep 2020 at 19:59
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Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Jack the lad .my mams name was Margery.i was in your class at school.i last saw you in Wigan infirmary you were a Porter I think I had a minor operation just after I moved to Wales and you took me to the theatre .does it jog your memory?????

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 07:35

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Trixie, You're thinking of my brother George. I am two years older than him and you as well I suppose. I am also living in Wales, near Prestatyn. Where abouts are you? Jondav.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 10:11

Posted by: whups (14196) 

yes marge john is right his brother george was a porter at wigan & took over from my uncle frank as head porter . he,s now retired but still a counciler for wigan .

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 10:56

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Sorry about that .but John is my age.Got a biggish birthday tomorrow .so you should have same coming up soon John ?????
We live in Wrexham John been there 31 years now.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 11:12

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Trixie, if you were in the same class as me you will be 74/75. If you were in George's class you are 72/73. Give me a clue as to your proper name. Jondav.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 14:50
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Posted by: RobinG (451)

Hi Dougie.
Thank you for the picture of the War Memorial, nice and simple. I notice that it mentions the Community of Senley Green, why not Downall Green, I must admit that until I joined Wigan World that I had never heard of Senley Green.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 14:51

Posted by: PeterP (11707)

RobinG Seneley Green covers Downall Green and SImms Lane End and Garswood It has been around since before 1500

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 15:15
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Posted by: RobinG (451)

Thank you PeterP.
The location may have been around since 1500, but I do not recollect the term Senley Green being in regular usage until after I left Downall Green in 1960.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 15:50

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Robin Garswood as always been in Seneley Green and Downall Green in North Ashton I except that, till the big mix-up in 1974 with the two brooks, I know the truth and it may come out one-day but it was covered up as it was too late to change, ? ask yourself why they changed from the brook to the M6 motorway as the boundary and stop at Liverpool Road instead of carrying on to the original boundary at the Grammer School, the truth is out there

Replied: 3rd Sep 2020 at 16:49

Posted by: whups (14196) 

your not on your own robing .

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 00:04

Posted by: bambam (3090)

I must admit Bri I never heard of senely green either, it was north Ashton and at the time was under AUDC in Wigan borough.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 00:15

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

My name is Marjorie John and I am 75 today I was one of the oldest in our class.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 07:27

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

O.K.--Everyone that knows the boundary change from the S bend in Billinge Road , if you had made a big mixed-up on your planing by taking Millingford brook by mistake that would split Ashton in half, think about it ? where would you have change the boundary to get back on track that would affect the least number of people and dwellings, the M6 at Low Bank Road of course so why not carry on down to the old boundary wall, top men played GOLF

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 08:13

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Happy birthday Marjorie, mines not till April. What was your last name? Jondav.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 09:03

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

You don’t give up do you John.
Brogan.thanks

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 09:54
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Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Now I remember you. It was a long time ago. Jondav.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 10:09

Posted by: bert (704)

Happy birthday Trixie,i hope you have a lovely day.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 11:02

Posted by: bert (704)

Hi John you are right Dougie Collingwood lived in Woolams before them.i remember his dad used to throw his clog and swear at us if you went carol singing,we used to go there when we wanted a laugh.oh happy days.and Gladys Evans ,who was Gilligan did live next to Hobsons.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 11:09

Posted by: whups (14196) 

and ralph derbyshire bert .

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 11:37

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Happy Birthday Trixie, hope you have a wonderful day.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 12:40

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Thanks Bert and bambam,

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 15:31

Posted by: suesa (646)

Happy birthday Margery! Have a wonderful day!

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 16:47

Posted by: RobinG (451)

Hi Marjorie. Many Happy Returns, regards to Edward.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 17:21

Posted by: Warr33 (41)

Hello Malc, We are down at the graveyard at 10am on Saturdays be nice to see you. And yes i'm still driving for my sins but only 3 and 4 days a week which is great.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 18:32

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Trixie, After sixty odd years the memory starts to fade. The problem is that we never had any class photos taken, so we have nothing to refer to. Why didn't they do any at that time? I don't know! Jondav.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 19:15

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

No idea John.never thought about it.looking at other years before us it is strange.
Thanks for all the best wishes,
Thanks robinG.i will tell him he’s not had a very good year so far robin I’m not sure if you have spoken to Margaret lately as she may have mentioned it.

Replied: 4th Sep 2020 at 20:42

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

A bit lateTRixie but happy birthday

Replied: 7th Sep 2020 at 18:13

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

A bit lateTRixie but happy birthday#


Hi Bambam. getting a bit long in the tooth dont you think.

Replied: 7th Sep 2020 at 18:17

Posted by: whups (14196) 

i,m a bit suprised at that john as iv,e got pics of both of my aunties who went to the rectory & there both in their 80s .

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 00:07

Posted by: JACK THE LAD (23)

Whups, all that I'm saying is that there were no class photos taken between 1950 and 1957. These are the years I was there. I have several individual ones, but I've not come across any class group ones. Jondav.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 09:16

Posted by: bentlegs (5330)

Bambam, Jimmy Fearnley& Hilda lived at 33 as first tenants, Bill Murphy moved in.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 10:50

Posted by: trixie (5050) 

Thanks bentlegs.i hope you and Mollie are feeling better now,

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 17:24

Posted by: bambam (3090)

Hi bentlegs, I can remember Moore's living at 35 then councillor Burrows at 37 and partridges at 39, then Hodson's at 41, and Garnett's at 43.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 22:05
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Moved over

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 22:27
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 22:43
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Posted by: bambam (3090)

Please go to number 13 folks, thanks for all your contributions on number 12.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 22:59

 

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