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HERE WE GO NUMBER 13

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Here we go folks hope you enjoy new thread, thanks for all your contributions on number 12.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 22:55
Last edited by bambam: 8th Sep 2020 at 23:00:42

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Thanks for keeping it going
Good snooker player Ken Moore in a class of his own in the Village club, I,ve come up with another shop in Downall green that I think everyone as mist clue, Tumtingle you will know it was still trading in 1959

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 23:00
Last edited by dougie: 3rd Oct 2020 at 16:51:09

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Great. Super.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 23:05

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

I was loaded up with things and trying to Video at the same time why walking from and back to the car --Churchyard 1----Churchyard 2------Churchyard 3 by Mick--
-----Downall Green Estate--

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 23:05
Last edited by dougie: 16th Sep 2020 at 08:48:15

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Ken was a good snooker player dougie, I watched him many time in village club I believe his son still lives in same house.

Replied: 8th Sep 2020 at 23:13

Posted by: whups (5766) 

he would have been better if he could stop his arm frim shaking dav .

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 00:04

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Ha ha you're right Bri, but he could still put them balls in pockets, would love to have seen him in his youth.

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 00:58

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

Bambam we(Partridge) lived at No45. Thinking back when we moved in (approx 1963) it was overcrowded has there were 4 boys in the back bedroom in bunk beds and two girls in bunk beds in the little front box room and both parents in the main bed room.

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 09:35

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Ha ha you're right Bri, but he could still put them balls in pockets, would love to have seen him in his youth.

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 10:47

Posted by: whups (5766) 

me to dav

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 12:57

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Thanks Dougie, two lovely video's with a great commentary.

Replied: 9th Sep 2020 at 23:28

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Thank you Bentlegs. I'm Bill Murphys youngest son and still living at 33, I always wondered who and how many tennants lived there before us.

Replied: 10th Sep 2020 at 19:20

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Brilliant Video Dougie, please keep rocking up, Ive sent it to all the team, thank you so much for your kind words

Replied: 10th Sep 2020 at 19:22

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Sorry Peterp, I thought you lived next door to jack burrows.

Replied: 10th Sep 2020 at 19:41

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

- I don't do work as you know but would like a wheelbarrow and your help to sift that soil at the bottom end, and a chat about getting shut of the water that holds down there once and for all.

P.S. expect a video being uploaded by Fat Mick on General as he went up there today

Replied: 10th Sep 2020 at 20:25

Posted by: whups (5766) 

next door to kev dav.

Replied: 10th Sep 2020 at 23:59

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

From Alan85
Hello Dougie, after seeing your videos of the work being done at the church, I have sent a donation so as to help out with the work.

Thank's Alan85 it's so good of you to upload about your donation this way, the post is also helping to boost the found a whereness when a man so far away will do something like this , Thank you off everyone

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 00:25
Last edited by dougie: 11th Sep 2020 at 07:53:10

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Thanks Bri, Im trying to picture estate as I knew it so did kev live adjoining Jimmy hodson and Peter on other side, it's been about 45 years since I roamed around there.

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 01:08

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

I drive through Shevvy on my way to work, I think its FatMick that has summat to do with the grounds there, just want to say it looks great, the metal sculpture is brilliant and the notice boards are a great idea, just want to ask do you work closeley with the parish council to get permissions? Thanks The Mrs

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 10:39

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Warr33--Mick off the other site on general come to have a look at your work in the Churchyard and made --This Video-- , but don't expect any pats on the back off Mick for the good work your doing, he's not a man to give compliments that easy but it's a very good video he as made, expect him popping up again to make a follow-up video sometime in the future
He'll not look on the Downall Green site but a thank you off you on the other site would be nice if he was to upload-it

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 10:43

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Great video Fat Mick, thanks for rocking up, Shevington looks fabulous too, your all doing a great job, nice one. regards The Mrs

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 20:08

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Did I ask for a wheelbarrow to move some soil this Saturday and a big strongman to wheel it your hobby would be fine,for half an hour we could have a chat about getting shut of the water build-up on the bottom section

Replied: 11th Sep 2020 at 21:32
Last edited by dougie: 24th Sep 2020 at 16:39:03

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Dougie, we have both.....a wheelbarrow and a strong guy, theres a wedding at 3pm so were concentrating on the getting the front spic and span hope to see you on Saturday.....

Replied: 16th Sep 2020 at 20:15

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

All in a days work if asked, for a donation So spread the good news as MOST people don't see these photo's, lets get it talked about the good work being done in the Churchyard and help push the founding up for them



Replied: 18th Sep 2020 at 08:39
Last edited by dougie: 30th Sep 2020 at 21:28:32

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Lovely photographs of the work being done.

Replied: 18th Sep 2020 at 13:54

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

O.K. A faver to ask here from the people that live on the estate any of you now or see Trever Harrison off the estate would you jusy say , the old man you helped asked me to say a big thank-you to you

Replied: 22nd Sep 2020 at 20:36

Posted by: whups (5766) 

not seen trevor for ages dougie even tho he,s about 60-70 yds from me . he lives in the last terrace near slaters yd .

Replied: 23rd Sep 2020 at 00:05

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Thanks Brian-- I didn't now him but he helped me out big time,

Replied: 23rd Sep 2020 at 00:22

Posted by: whups (5766) 

if i see him i,ll mention it to him dougie.

Replied: 24th Sep 2020 at 00:04

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

? As he a brother Ron as you know of, anyway tell him where's a pint for him if I ever see him in a pub

Replied: 24th Sep 2020 at 16:49

Posted by: whups (5766) 

no dougie , he did have a brother called cliff who was disabled & died about 5yrs ago . usually he goes to the bell now & again.

Replied: 25th Sep 2020 at 00:10

Posted by: brynkiwi (715)

Great job being done at the graveyard Dougie.I clean up my mam and dad’s grave when I get over.last time it was covered in weed and blackberry took all day.
These people are doing fantastic work. How could I make a donation.

Replied: 30th Sep 2020 at 08:44

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Best thing to do is to tell them you live in NZ and would they please clean-up your family grave, then I could put a bunch of artificial flowers on for you instead of the beer I.O.Y. as I don't think we will ever meet. also ask for details to send a Donation She may see this and reply

But put it on the thread on message board under Voluntary Work with as much detail as possible for them to find the grave, Warr33 will get back to I'm sure it would also let them know ex-pats all over the world can see the work they are doing and appreciate it

Replied: 30th Sep 2020 at 11:32
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Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Good old photo here of Seneley Green coal mine Somewhere at Garswood the young lad is bereaved to be my Brother Ralph that was apprentice fitter at Stone's Colliery, Liverpool Road , the fitters had also to look after that mine to as it was part of Stone's and part of his training

Replied: 30th Sep 2020 at 17:00

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Message for BRYNKIWI, just read your post re the family grave, if you want to privately message us on Facebook Friends of Seneley Green via messenger with details of the grave and an idea of whereabouts it is on the site we will have a look at it for you, otherwise message on here, whichever you prefer. The rain stopped play last week as was a storm but to be fair its the only day weve missed since beginning of May. I can get photos to you aswel.

Replied: 5th Oct 2020 at 20:16

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

And Dougie I believe someone put your brush to good use Looks great what you have done .

Replied: 5th Oct 2020 at 20:17

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Hi We could do with 2or3 old lengths of square drain pipe to stop all that water from running down to the other graves plus a bit of artificial turf to finish the right side off, grass or weeds will never grow there and at some stage the path maybe extended to the newer section at the top

Replied: 5th Oct 2020 at 23:14

Posted by: whups (5766) 

dougie , top 2nd from the left is harry heaton from garswood .

Replied: 5th Oct 2020 at 23:59

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

whups---I don't know any of them but if that is my brother it would be between 1952/55 as he move to Haydock foundry by then, the photo was taken in Seneley Green, Garswood, North Ashton,
Like the Church was in Downall Green, North Ashton, it's now in Seneley Green, St-Helen, a big mistake made by fools

Replied: 6th Oct 2020 at 07:25

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i,m sure this pic is on the work section of pics .

Replied: 6th Oct 2020 at 14:27

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

warr33-- someone is offering artificial turf on the Friends of Seneley green site I'm mixed up with getting in contact could you look and help me out, I'm new to it just now I have posted a reply nothing come up

Replied: 8th Oct 2020 at 23:07
Last edited by dougie: 12th Oct 2020 at 21:50:09

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Dougie, missed you today (Sat) Nice surprise for you next time you rock up to cemetery,

and Brynkiwi check your messages offo Friends of Seneley Green ....nice surprise for you too!

Replied: 17th Oct 2020 at 20:56

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Another for you here I'll be popping up Sunday to have a look at this work you have done, kept away today as you know an old man only gets in the way
No need for any replies just so proud of them will delete photo's

Still need 2/3 lengths of square drain-pipe


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This to this


Replied: 17th Oct 2020 at 22:15

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Hi Dougie, no need to delete, keep them on, its no probs, and you are never in the way, feel free to visit anytime were around, honestly you would be pretty amazed today, its looking good. Thanks

Replied: 17th Oct 2020 at 22:20

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

They are also on WiganWorld if you look , I see you've taken my BRUSH again how do you expect people to sweep the paths if you keep taking them, there should be more round the graveyard not less -

Replied: 17th Oct 2020 at 22:31

Posted by: brynkiwi (715)

Warr33
Fantastic job by fantastic people ????????

Replied: 18th Oct 2020 at 00:20

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Brynkiwi Asked ? "How he could make a donation" my reply best thing to do is tell them you live in NZ and would they please find and clean-up your family grave, I could then put a bunch of artificial flowers on for you instead of the beer I.O.Y. as I don't think we will ever meet. also ask for details to send a Donation,
-----Click PHOTO wait then click AGAIN to see more-----
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Replied: 18th Oct 2020 at 08:17
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Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Remember to spread the word about this service as not everyone as a computer, it's the only way to get cash for the up-keep of the graveyard and they are doing such a good job so people with graves in there should support them

Replied: 18th Oct 2020 at 08:53

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Small part of the video I made today --Here

Replied: 19th Oct 2020 at 22:18

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Brill that Dougie, thanks

Replied: 20th Oct 2020 at 22:29

Posted by: whups (5766) 

bad news guys my auntie maureen scully nee shaw has passed away yesterday .

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 00:02

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Oh god such bad news Bri, I remember the family very well growing up on estate, have loads of memories of them, feel so much for the girls R.I.P Maureen.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 00:12

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i heard that she was ready to go to my uncle harold.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 23:55

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Aww bless her they were a very devoted couple and loved to dance, I seen them dancing on many occasions and I must admit they was very good.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (2241)

On that note Bri, I remember the photo on WW with Harold shaw, Bill Ryder, Arthur speakman, Joe Glaze, Gerry Lewis, Johnny speakman, George Percival, and Derek Higham and a few more, I think there is only Derek Higham from that class photo who is still with us, I Bet that was a rum crew.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 00:20

Posted by: whups (5766) 

see if you can find it dav.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 14:31

Posted by: suesa (612)

So sorry to hear that Brian. I remember Maureen and family very well. R. I. P Maureen

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 14:32

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, it's on page 2 on album {schools} Ashton-in -Makerfield secondary, it's the pic you put on.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yes dav it rang a bell after i put the reply on . i do have it .

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 23:57

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Dougie, good to see you today, theres a facebook page called Garswood Remembers, theye looking for folk like yourself that has an archive of photos and memories... have a look if you get chance. Hope today went ok for you, the rain was pretty bad.

Replied: 24th Oct 2020 at 21:11

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

RIP Maureen I remember curly always nout on feet God bless all family Malc

Replied: 25th Oct 2020 at 09:56

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

RIP Maureen I remember curly always nout on feet God bless all family Malc

Replied: 25th Oct 2020 at 09:56

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Went up Sunday no one there so had to carry thee bags of stone from the car to finish the job I started Saturday, anyway got it finished but still not satisfied it could do with going all across to the other path hopefully to stop the water from finding a new path and it well now you've opened it up.
Taking to the grave digger he said he would come and help me if you decide to go all across as they have loads of trouble when they have to reopen a grave in that area with water

Put some flowers on the gave for Brian in NZ hope he see's this photo your team made a first class job

Also put these on a grave were I was working

Replied: 25th Oct 2020 at 21:12
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Posted by: bentlegs (4620)

Whups, George Persival went to Aus years ago he did post on ww in the early days, Don,t know if he is still there or not.

Replied: 26th Oct 2020 at 13:39

Posted by: bert (693)

so sorry to hear of Maureen.passing.I always called her Mrs Shaw,even when she was with Michael.because i knew curly or Harold.who was a good friend of my brother John,and a good family friend of ours.

Replied: 26th Oct 2020 at 14:33

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Hi Dougie, flowers look great, I put the little carnations on and re-leaded the letters that had bits missing, someone has asked me do you have any photos of the Parish Hall in Garswood which was once the school? I will speak to you when I see you next. Hopefully on Saturday. Got a few questons for you....

Replied: 26th Oct 2020 at 18:45

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Sorry about moving your flowers but I had taken the pot home to put artificial flowers in as come December I'll just pop 2/3 Christmas flowers in and my I.O.U is paid O.K Brian

Your doing a good job with the path your making into the dell could make a nice walk to the red shale path

Replied: 26th Oct 2020 at 22:42

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i dont know george percival bentlegs . probably before my time.

Replied: 27th Oct 2020 at 00:01

Posted by: brynkiwi (715)

Thanks for putting the flowers on the grave Dougie. Hopefully one day we will get to meet and have a pint.
WARR 33 thank you to you and your crew for doing such a brilliant job.

Replied: 28th Oct 2020 at 20:21

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i know that walt corless ex landlord of the hinge isnt a greener , but he passed away yesterday & was an allround good guy .

Replied: 5th Nov 2020 at 14:54

Posted by: bambam (2241)

That's bad news Bri, he was a great guy and good landlord I remember having many a pint in there and his Alsatian dog was always sat in front of bar.R.I.P Walt.

Replied: 5th Nov 2020 at 15:53

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, any news on Barry Davies is he still in care.

Replied: 11th Nov 2020 at 18:55

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

John Palmer died dav you remember him from school

Replied: 11th Nov 2020 at 19:42

Posted by: whups (5766) 

he,s still there i believe dav . john would be a bit older than you would,nt he malc ? .

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 11:43

Posted by: whups (5766) 

lynn gardner from bryn who went under the name lynn g, her husband joe has passed away .

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 15:47

Posted by: whups (5766) 

jackie smout who lived for a spell across from the church in rectory rd has passed on.

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 16:37

Posted by: bambam (2241)

That's a shock malc, john was in same year as me at school, and was in hospital on same ward as me in march, he only had ankle operation, so sad of him passing R.I.P john.

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 17:52

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, Thanks for info I know that name smout but can't picture him, it's been a bad year for greeners passing on.

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 17:55

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Sorry to hear about Jack R,I.P.

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 20:30

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Hi Dave tell your Tina I have gone off facebook takes to much time up hope everyone is ok and wish them luck from me pal how's Mrs lewis doing stay save dav you and your family

Replied: 12th Nov 2020 at 21:47

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yes malc jackie lived near vinnie boyers for a spell facing the church .

Replied: 13th Nov 2020 at 12:25

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Last heard out of Barry Davis he was in widnes in shelter accomodation boozing all time no good to nobody good lad to he was Barry him and is mate took the same road to desaster the demon drink

Replied: 13th Nov 2020 at 13:07

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yes he did maic . tommy cheatham was his name & hit it hard after his wife left him . i believe he,s doing better with no booze & put on weight as well .

Replied: 13th Nov 2020 at 15:03

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

If them walls could talk in bell Brian they would tell some hey how are you bri

Replied: 13th Nov 2020 at 15:10

Posted by: whups (5766) 

still here malc.

Replied: 14th Nov 2020 at 00:01

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I keep going pal it's not like it use be but it won't gride down mot

Replied: 14th Nov 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Mrs Lewis doing fine Malc thanks for asking, she had her 80th birthday couple of weeks ago.

Replied: 14th Nov 2020 at 19:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Happy belated birthday to your mam Dave from me dav happy days

Replied: 14th Nov 2020 at 22:45

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Thanks Malc, we will have meet up for a pint after this lockdown.

Replied: 14th Nov 2020 at 23:26

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Ok Dave look forward to that take care

Replied: 15th Nov 2020 at 07:22

Posted by: whups (5766) 

when will that be guys ? .

Replied: 17th Nov 2020 at 23:59

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, good question with the way things are going I can't see it being anytime this year.

Replied: 18th Nov 2020 at 04:15

Posted by: whups (5766) 

absolutely not dav & the way this government is running things it could be most of next year.

Replied: 18th Nov 2020 at 11:39

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Only person with any idea was guy Fawkes and he messed that up Brian

Replied: 18th Nov 2020 at 13:00

Posted by: Warr33 (40)

Dougie. I have your leaf blower as promised, sorry dont know how else to contact you. ????

Replied: 18th Nov 2020 at 13:16

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Will pop up Saturday I'll put it to good use you see some blow the leaves off the paths I blow them on, you can see one is needed, Rained off to-day
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Replied: 18th Nov 2020 at 13:47
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Posted by: whups (5766) 

gome on guys what,s wrong with you . has.nt anyone got something to say ? .

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I good neet

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 22:30

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, have you heard from pey jones he seemed to be enjoying it on here but don't think he's posted in a while, I suppose he could be busy.

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 04:23

Posted by: whups (5766) 

no dav hav,nt heard from pey for a while . i usually phone him up if someone we know has passed on .

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 11:36

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Ian did me agood job Brian with plumbing is a good lad what's think of maradona for me he was a great player but tended not to like him after hand of God but was up there with the best

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 12:38

Posted by: whups (5766) 

told you did,nt i malc he was a good lad . put a reply on the sports blog about diego .

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 23:32

Posted by: sammys (29) 

I think he just about edged it pele was top draw but he had a lot of good players around him Diego won the world cup on his own one man dosent make a team but he did RIP Maradona

Replied: 28th Nov 2020 at 00:14

Posted by: whups (5766) 

he,ll always be known as a cheat.

Replied: 28th Nov 2020 at 11:10

Posted by: whups (5766) 

another greener gone , johnny knowles has passed on . r.i.p. johnny.

Replied: 4th Dec 2020 at 23:55

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, sorry to hear of another greener passing R.I.P johnny, even though I can't recall him I can only remember joe & Geoff.

Replied: 6th Dec 2020 at 21:19

Posted by: whups (5766) 

jonny played for the village club dav.he,s on that pic in sport.

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 00:03

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Thanks for info Bri, was he related to knowles off Elm Ave.

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 00:24

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yes dav , he was jeffs brother.

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 11:44

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Thanks Bri, I've looked at that pic of village club and know many faces on there, the lad next to p.partidge looks like Howard Murphy but then I thought he would have been to young to be on there.

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 19:06

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

RIP John good lad

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 21:36

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Malc, don't see you on much lately I take it your still grafting.

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 23:09

Posted by: whups (5766) 

dav jonny was the tall lad in the center with the light hair at the back. barry davies is on that pic too .

Replied: 7th Dec 2020 at 23:49

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Thanks Bri, I seen them good pic.

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 00:16

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i did put most of the names on dav . i got jack hardman wrong as i thought it was david sharples.

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 01:10

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I still doing a bit Dave this covid messed everything up pal let's hope this vaccine works take care and all the best to you and your family regards to Mrs Lewis

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 07:00

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Whups/bambam ---get your finger out just add the photo or the link to the photo with all the comments on so everyone can see what your talking about plus all the others on the photo.

Would taken 30 seconds why looking at the photo

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 11:01

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

This is what I was wanting to show you I saw 4 yesterday


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Posted by: whups (5766) 

dougie if you look at the pics on sport you will see that i have put most of the names to that pic & take a look at the date i put them on it,s 2011 . i have had that pic in my computer for ages .

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 12:19
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Posted by: dougie (4632) 

So why didn't you put the photo on, I've had to looked for the photo on sport and I've seen the comments, some may not be able to find it thats all I'm saying

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 13:27

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Bri, I still think that's Howard Murphy on 2nd left.

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 17:45

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

It looks like willy Ryder that Dave

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 19:02

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

That team where better than m u now

Replied: 8th Dec 2020 at 22:13

Posted by: whups (5766) 

nobody asked me dougie ? . dav it,s neither howard murphy or willie ryder as they would have been around 13 at the time .malc jeff would know who it is .

Replied: 9th Dec 2020 at 00:03

Posted by: sammys (29) 

Could it be jeff Robert's brother gwin

Replied: 9th Dec 2020 at 08:24

Posted by: whups (5766) 

sammy why not ask phil partridge he would know ? .

Replied: 9th Dec 2020 at 11:47

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

We asked Phil he cornt remember bri there is 1 lad that will know bri chowy not seen him since March tho he had me on front for 3 hrs always walks past I will ask him when I see him tho top lad John he's membery like elliphant as chow

Replied: 9th Dec 2020 at 21:35

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Brynkiwi--Went too the Churchyard to put Christmas flowers on my Mam/Dads grave, also put a small one in with the flowers on your Mam/Dads gave, they have finished all round it now and cut back the edge about 3 foot they've made a good job of it for you

The church before the tower was added

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 20:48
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Posted by: brynkiwi (715)

Thanks Dougie much appreciated. My wife dug up some photos from 1980 when I brought her and my young fella to meet my Aunty at 253 Wigan road also Ken and the star hotel. I will attempt to put the on album could bring back a few memories. This was your Star darts team,not as good as when me and Ken played ????????

Replied: 14th Dec 2020 at 06:50

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

That was a sticking point with me and ken about the best team, I had moved to the Star team in 1968/9 by 1980 I had moved from the Star as I was working shifts, one think I can say I never got dropped from the best team in Ashton at that time plus one thing I can still brag about I have been round the board in 7 darts twice but not in a match, but will never forget the two places I did it as for 180s

Looking good in the churchyard they are doing a first class job they seam to have shamed a few into cleaning round there own family grave

Replied: 14th Dec 2020 at 11:12

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Yes, the mention of the Star Hotel, does bring back memories of my childhood days living at Bryn in the 40s. So from down here in Staffordshire, I wish Dougie and everyone at Downall Green a very merry Christmas and a hopeful New Year.

Replied: 14th Dec 2020 at 19:48
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Posted by: PeterP (8478)

Alan85 click on STUFF at the top of the page then scroll down to PUBS of the past ,Photo of THE STAR plus other pubs

Replied: 14th Dec 2020 at 20:52

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Thanks, Peter, have already seen it. Got a copy on my PC. I remember going into the bar to see my Grandad and there were spittoons on the floor. The round metal bowls full of sawdust.

Replied: 14th Dec 2020 at 23:42

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Thanks-- Alan85 and the same to you, I lived in Downall Green in the 40s but went round with the milkman and saw things all round Ashton that people today would think, he couldn't have seen this and that if you know what I mean.
One or two things here that no one as talked about start at the farm on Wigan Rd, first cross the road a small shop Ormshaws, then The Star, next row Corniehokies in the middle of row, then the yard down the entry at the back of the house's that was also Ormshaws heavy haulage and breakdown yard, and the shop at the start of the next row can't remember the name ? do you, I remember Tommy Armstrong having it as a storage place before being made back into a house.
Hope you can fallow this get your thinking cap on it's just for you

Replied: 15th Dec 2020 at 09:12

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Hi Dougie, as a schoolboy in the 40s, my best mate was Gerald Hodgkinson who lived at 190 Wigan Rd. I also mated with Graham Critchley who lived at 160 Wigan Rd. it was a shop owned by his Grandmother Mrs. Smith, but now converted back to a house. I used to help to deliver milk for Mr. Fairhurst the dairyman who lived at 166 Wigan Rd, the dairy was an extension built on the back of the house. He had the land behind his house where he kept chickens and pigs, also his son Eric had a large pigeon loft as he bred and raced pigeons. As regards the shop before the Star pub, it was Nathan Wrights grocery, known by the locals as Tanny Wrights. The entry by the shop led to the haulage yard and business which was owned by Doctor Fulton and traded under the name of A & D Motors, (Andrew & Dorothy). Further down Wigan Rd toward Ashton was Cansfield Grove, wherein the 40s the Eaves family, founders of Eavesway Coaches lived in a house opposite the school, they had two small coaches, one parked on the driveway and the other on the road. My knowledge is limited from Bryn Cross down to A-in-M. As for Bryn Cross, the butchers there in my time was Ben Turners and managed by the Croft family, two sons Derek & Donald, both deceased. I hope this explains a bit about the 40s era but at 86 years old it's surprising that I can still remember.

Replied: 15th Dec 2020 at 15:30
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Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Your both doing well old timers keep up the work on here it's intriguing reading these posts Dougie n Alan 85 and merry Christmas n all the very best to both of you

Replied: 15th Dec 2020 at 22:02

Posted by: bambam (2241)

I remember a butchers shop on corner at bryn cross, I'm sure it had a sign with N croft.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 00:00

Posted by: brynkiwi (715)

Remember butchers at corner of Bryn Cross Greenalls ( don’t think the spelling is right ) I went to see his daughter in NZ 1972 approx.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 05:33

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Hi Greenalls Butcherers yes your right but, think back a bit farther as you turned on to Downall Green Rd there was a row of old terrace house's right what was between them and the Odd Fellows Pub.
I may have asked before were was ? the chippy in that row of houses.
on the left two shops what did they sell ---Alan should know, put your thinking cap on Alan---

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 09:51

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Hi Dougie, in the 40s didn't know much about the Downall Green area, apart from going to St Peter's School in Downall Green Road. There was a house somewhere opposite the school with a model railway in the garden & a few doors down from the school was Naylor's shop, their son Walter was in my class. I also remember the Oddfellows, but as for the two shops, my memory fails me. But surprisingly later in the late 60s, I was a bus driver for LUT, at their Atherton Depot and sometimes drove the 55/56 Routes. Leigh, Lane Head, Golborne, Stubshaw Cross, Ashton, Bryn Cross, Sims Road End, the onward to Billinge or Garswood.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 12:22

Posted by: whups (5766) 

conkers chippy dougie & i remember crofty,s buthers at the lights .

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 15:02

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Whups , don't remember the name of the chippy but I would think your to young to have seen the terrace house's are the chippy, Crofts butchers was the one that Dave Brogan as now on Wigan Rd can't remember them having the one on the Lights but they may have

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 16:49

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Brogan's is definitely where Crofts had the shop. Round the corner in Bryn Road is Fire & Spice, note the alteration to the brickwork so has to make the window smaller. In the 40s this was a lock-up haberdashery shop run by the Adamson sisters who lived at 154 Wigan Rd.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 17:06

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Alan85, Sorry but it was my fault you miss under stud me try again as you turned on to Downall Green Rd at the lights when going too school there was a row of old terrace house's on the right ? what was between them and the Odd Fellows Pub.
I may have asked before were was ? there was a chippy in that row of houses ? were was it in that row and the name.
Across the road ? on the left two shops what did they sell ---Alan should know, put your thinking cap on --Old-man--Alan--

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 17:06

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

There is a gap in the terraced houses opposite St Peters school and there was a chippy there at one time.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 17:20

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Yes Peter your right but your same as Whups to young to remember these.
Looks like I've got Alan thinking it looks like he'll have to think a bit harder , Clue did you keep rabbits when you was a lad as everyone from Bryn went for free S------ next too the Oddfellows, plus what about that Chippy don't tell me you didn't eat chips your last chance then I'll have to tell you

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 18:06
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Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Can't remember the Chip shop Dougie. Just looked on Google Earth. The row of Houses next to St Peters going down to Bryn Cross. I am sure the one with the big bay window used to be a shop. there is a plaque on the houses saying Park Lane Co-op 1885 or 1895.

Replied: 16th Dec 2020 at 23:01

Posted by: whups (5766) 

absolutely not dougie & iv,e been in it umpteen times .do you ever remember the chippy in brocksteads ? .

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 00:23
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Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi Bri, alan85 is correct with Dave Brogan taking over the shop that was croft at one time, the other butcher facing was picton, and to think Dave was my neighbor at one spell I wonder how time passes so quickly.

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 00:48

Posted by: whups (5766) 

they had to knock conkers chippy down because of subsidy & now there,s a gap where they used to be & they had to bolster up the ends of the remaining houses . dav do you remember the chippy in brocksteads ? .

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 11:54

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

There were two chippies at Brocksteads the one next to the post office a real shop chippy call Woods I'll go as far as to say no one on here will remember it, the other was down at the bottom on the righthand side about the 6th house after the last shop there were three shops in that row, it was just the front room of a house made into a chippy

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 15:27

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

whups don't know the name of the chippy that yourself and Peter say was knocked down, I remember a chippy higher up that is back as a house, maybe I'm wrong with the placing of the chippy but do remember one

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 16:29

Posted by: bert (693)

Hi Dougie i remember the chippies at Brocstedes the one across from our ladies and the other in the middle of the row of houses,was owned byAlec Williamses wifes family. whose name was Mrs Catterall.and the terraced houses next to the oddies,had a small shop,which was bought by Cyril Cunliffe beforehe moved to Bll Charnocks shop on Wigan rd.

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 16:56

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Your right on everything you have said but think again as if was yesteryear you are looking through your window to the right of the pub the entry you would see is still there and two gates across and a newish building at the back, when we were lads that place was a Joiners yard and building we got sawdust and wood shavings for the rabbit hutch Free the other side of the entry was a row of terrace houses going to Greenalls backs the first one was a chip shop, is brother also had one on wigan road there were two small shops Chapman made one into a barbers followed by Len then Barclays bank but cant remember which was the chippy. ---Hope you can follow this Alan85---

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 17:32

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

As I have said before, I was never familiar with the Downall Green area, anywhere past St Peter's School was foreign to me.

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 19:30

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Alan my last post to Bert was walking from the traffic lights on the right hand side to the school that you must have walked 5 days a week, from the lights first row of houses with chippy on the end, Joiners place up the entry before the Oddfellows pub, just after the pub was another row of houses with a sweet shop at the end, cross over sasme side the church, another row of house then the school, you can still see these on google street

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:40

Posted by: whups (5766) 

it was called conkers chippy . i,m suprised that bert cant remember it as he only lives around 60yrds from where it used to be . billy woodcock lives in the middle of that terraced row . the 1 near booths brow rd reverted back to a shop & glen the taxi driver had it & now it,s just hiis house .

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 00:03
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Posted by: dougie (4632) 

HeHe, Your wrong whups, Bert can have the last say on this one O.K. . the chippy as you turned left off Booths brow rd on to Downall Green rd was only a front room chippy about 6th house before the first shop in that row ? Just ---YES or NO will do

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 10:43
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Posted by: whups (5766) 

maybe . it was catteralls .

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 12:50

Posted by: suesa (612)

Think you are correct Brian regarding the houses across from St Peter's School. In the 90s there was a Chinese food takeaway which was the front room of the house. It was demolished along with next door in the mid/late 90s. I know this because my daughter worked there. Catterall's chippy was lower down near Booths Brow Road. There was also the shop near there which was owned at one time by John Newbiggin (girls band conductor) and his wife, probably the one you say Glen had.

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 13:48

Posted by: bambam (2241)

I can't remember the chippys Bri, but suesa is right about Mr Newbiggin he lived in that shop when me and my brother played in haydock & Ashton band with his son Les, I can Only just remember Dickie Eccys mams chippy.

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 15:13

Posted by: suesa (612)

Seem to remember the shop being called "the Larder" or similar and at the other end of the row before Our Lady's school was Hursts shop. Other corner turning at Booth Brow was a small co-op

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 15:36

Posted by: whups (5766) 

your right sue & i cant understand anyone not remembering conkers chippy & iv,e been in loads of times walking home after playing darts for the oddies .

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 17:09

Posted by: suesa (612)

And walking home after missing the last bus

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 18:03

Posted by: alan85 (123) 

Missing it because I was the driver & was running early ahead of scheduled time.

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 22:39

Posted by: Joe Maplin (401) 

whups,I remember Conquers chippy.They sold up in the seventies and opened a cafe in Newquay Cornwall adj to the station.Before this they lived on Dellside Close

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 22:52

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yep joe .

Replied: 18th Dec 2020 at 23:53

Posted by: suesa (612)

So it was your fault Alan

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 10:55

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Eddie Malone had best chippy around Ashton ney I know this because I used collect pig swill for grub bri dust know you grub was you didn't get much swill from Eddies place

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 08:12

Posted by: whups (5766) 

wonder wot happened to eddie malc & wot he,s doing now ? . did you get my card malc ? .

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 11:26

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I yes I got your card cheers bri all the best pal well done 6 2 we play to open us bri and you have some quality players tho I don't like saying it doony will be turning in is grave tonight bless him and mis him rip

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 22:26

Posted by: whups (5766) 

yep malc i echo everything you,ve said .have a gud 1 .

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 23:50

Posted by: bambam (2241)

I remember a chap who had a chippie in 70s and he lived in dellside close his name was Les Darbyshire.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 04:07

Posted by: whups (5766) 

dont know who that is dav.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 12:50

Posted by: bambam (2241)

He lived facing Bill Ryder's where Simon is now Bri, I think he was a joiner by trade I worked with him until he retired at a late age, very handy chap he was a good all rounder and could turn his hand to anything, he retired at Galleries and did all Maintenance there, he's done work at simon's and is still with us, Great bloke.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 16:41

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

Merry christmas to all Downall greeners and Ex Downall greeners. To all the work gang at the church you are doing a very good job keep up the good work

Replied: 24th Dec 2020 at 14:43

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Yes thanks Peter, and the very same from me to you all, hope everyone has a good xmas and a happy new year.

Replied: 24th Dec 2020 at 22:27

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I merry Christmas everyone was in church yard yesterday they're doing a very good job in there well done gang

Replied: 25th Dec 2020 at 08:49

Posted by: bert (693)

Hi all Happy new year to you all.and Dav i do remember Conkers chippie,and i remember the co,op at the end of Booths Brow rd.And Eddies Chippie.and the shop near Our Ladies school.

Replied: 28th Dec 2020 at 10:39

Posted by: bentlegs (4620)

Bert, Where was Eddies chippy, Happy new year to one & all.

Replied: 28th Dec 2020 at 12:32

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

I met my future wife at the front of the Coop at the corner of Downall Green Rd and Booths Brow Rd

Replied: 28th Dec 2020 at 13:03

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Hi bert, that shop near school {walkers} did a lot of business when I was a lad.

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 04:20

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Morning Dave hope you had nice Christmas pal n everyone else to best you can anyroad all shops did well back in day before all big shops moved in that little post office across from school did a cracking trade wi us kids when they could get a big bag of toffee for 10 pee all the best everyone

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 08:23

Posted by: whups (5766) 

eddie,s chippy was daintys toffee shop .

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 12:16

Posted by: bentlegs (4620)

Thanks Whups,

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 12:27

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Whups That was Tommy Balls shop when me and bentlegs were lads, the shop across the road was Barton's they also had a chippy in their back yard

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 20:17

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

That was me grandad Alf ball shop

Replied: 29th Dec 2020 at 22:49

Posted by: whups (5766) 

when i was a lad it was daintys & across the road was annie deacons.

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: uncle joe (701)

As I remember things, the chippy was on the corner of Booths Brow Road and Rectory Road. There was a toffee shop at the other end of that row.

The Post Office moved to be more or less opposite the school. Before that it was on the same side, but a lot lower down Rectory Road. There was a phone box just outside. That was later moved to the corner opposite the school-

Daintys was on one corner, Annie Deacons opposite, and Tommy Turners on the third corner. I have a very vague memory that a house on the other corner was demolished.

The Co-op was down at the bottom end of Rectory, and Pies shop was opposite. Next to the Co-op was the butchers, ran at that time by Ray Doyle.

Am I correct, or is my memory playing tricks on me?

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 09:57

Posted by: whups (5766) 

more or less but the post office was further up rectory rd just on the crown near the gates for the church.

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 12:39

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

This may of been mentioned before on one of the DG threads but I remember there being a shop in one of the houses on Spindle Hillock.

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 12:51

Posted by: trixie (5025) 

The toffee shop on corner of Rectory road was a Mrs Dunn from Leyland green road.had two daughters the eldest was called Aileen can’t remember the other one’s name .

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 17:35

Posted by: suesa (612)

It's Adeline Dunn. I have spoken to her lately, she lives in Ashton

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 21:14

Posted by: suesa (612)

You're thinking of Mr White's post office Brian, but before he had it Mrs Compton who lived across from the parish hall ran the post office from her front room. I seem to remember that she was Mr White's mother in law.

Replied: 30th Dec 2020 at 21:19

Posted by: bambam (2241)

you are right susea, Norman white did run the post office, and I remember the lady you mention who lived near Kevin Duffy.

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 01:59

Posted by: trixie (5025) 

Yes Mrs white was a lovely little white haired lady .telephone box in the front garden.

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 07:25

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Brian Thelma dainty was me mam cousin she had shop in spindle hillock to Peter it s where Morris Clarke. Lives all the to you all let's hope it's better than 2020 but I will say this it's gone quick

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 09:08

Posted by: bentlegs (4620)

When me & TUmtingle were young lads the first shop at the bottom of Rectory Rd was the Co-Op , next door was the Co=op butchers Managed by Billy Walker ray took over when Billy retierd, Next was Jack Pyes was Balls & accross the road was Charlie Shaws a cobbler then on the same side was Ormrods when they closed Tommy Evans moved in, then crossing the road a bit higher up was the Post Office run by Peter Cromton & his wife At the top of Rectory Road was Jimmy Shaws Then the Chippy. Dunns, Next forgot his name, then Malc & Margaret Cook , And thats it,,, But thats old D/OG.

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 14:15

Posted by: whups (5766) 

noah littler had it at 1 spell .

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 14:30

Posted by: dougie (4632) 

Tumtell tha alot ouder thun mi so sum musta chaunged
Frank Walsh also worked in butchers as Ray's stand-in,
Charlie Shaw lived next door to the shop (he may have had the shop at one time) he had a shed in his back yard, he had the Bungalow built that your school friend Ema lived in, Tommy Aspinall opened the chippy on the corner and he lived in Barnis house at the other end, it was Jimmy Sudworth that had the shop on the other corner
back to Alf Ball's shop across the road was Barton's he opened a chippy in his backyard side-on, to Rushton's shop that Tommy Evens took it on

Lik -a- sed-yu-owd- buggr-a-cornt-gu-as-fur-bak-as-thee

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 16:41

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Where was the Roman fort then Gustavo's hillock anybody all the best everyone

Replied: 31st Dec 2020 at 23:40

Posted by: whups (5766) 

sadly another greener has left us . ste holland has passed away , he lived next door to bambam when his family lived on elm rd . there,s now only kenny holland left . r.i.p. ste.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 00:25

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Oh god Bri that's a shock, yes ste lived next door to us at 23 elm Ave I remember him being a good singer in church choir when I was a nipper, I remember parents Tommy and Flo I think ste had a sister who was eldest, I worked in hospital with steys son Chris until I left in 2017, and also remember carol who was my sister's best friend, so sad to hear that bad news Bri and thanks for keeping me informed.R.I.P. Ste.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 03:15

Posted by: uncle joe (701)

That is a shock for me. I was in the same class as Ste when I went to Rectory School.

RIP Ste.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 10:47

Posted by: whups (5766) 

his sister was younger than him & the youngest in the family . our james took up with her a few years ago but she died around 3yrs ago ,she was only 53 . ste had been fighting big C for a while & i think it finally got him.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 11:48

Posted by: suesa (612)

Such a shock! I'm so sorry to hear this. I have great memories of us all growing up at DG, Ste included.
R. I. P

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 14:49

Posted by: suesa (612)

I'm sure I'm right in saying that Stephen's older sister was Margery Cunliffe, she was in the girls band with us.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 14:51

Posted by: bambam (2241)

Yes you're right suesa, his sister was Marjorie.

Replied: 1st Jan 2021 at 20:35

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

Brian was ste that was doing gardens and flagging lived on land gate RIP

Replied: 2nd Jan 2021 at 00:50

Posted by: bentlegs (4620)

Bam Bam, Is it time?

Replied: 2nd Jan 2021 at 12:56

Posted by: whups (5766) 

i dont think so malc . he was with eilean who was receptionist for atc taxis . malc it,s benny holland,s brother .

Replied: 2nd Jan 2021 at 14:13

Posted by: Dagutd27 (302) 

I remember now Brian it is Benny what does flagging

Replied: 2nd Jan 2021 at 23:38

Posted by: bambam (2241)

HERE WE GO NUMBER 14




ex-Downall Greeners 14

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