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Enjoy folks, thanks for all your input on number 16.

well dav i guess i,ll be the 1st one then .

Well done Bri, it's gone a lot quieter on here these days.

yes it has dav.

I see that land at top of birch grove is for sale now Leyland green rd end they must be trying continue there ones on right guin up from Slater's pen big houses them to .hope everyone is ok

Is it that land where garages was Malc.

Bambam the land where the garages were is now built on. The only patch of land left is the curved plot as you turn off Leyland Green Rd onto Birch Grove

Thanks peterp it seems that most of the land on estate has now been built on.

Only land left is where the village club was.

i wonder where the money went ? .

The is on right on Leyland green road across from the counsel houses

There is planning permission for 6 houses its up for sale 800;000

Bri was there any money in village when it closed, as the rumours I heard was that the brewery took all money because it was owed to them.

i dont know dav , but it,s worth asking about ? .

They can't build on it no proper access which I find hard beleave really cos double decker buses geet up theer for club outings no problems used go in and you was sutt in someone's seat n 300 empty I don't know how bell keeps guin

Access via Bolton Street

I find the access excuse pathetic, surely if there's only two houses being built on site Bolton street is sufficient.

Morning David that's what I've heard old parish hall up for sale to 150.000

A few years ago the wood from the Dam corner to the railway line at Spindle Hillock was for sale. Was it sold? and what could you do with it? If the brook was piped and covered over then put a road over this then houses could be put into the woods but other wise you are just buying a wood

conservationists might buy it to preserve part of the countryside ? .

Still for sale or it was a couple year back not much land build on theer tho it's a big drop down to millingford brook that then again they built them further down ont same side across from s un s

There won't be much land left up there if they carry on, the builders have just erected over 60 houses on old cattle market on frog lane, the only access is down side of old guardians pub and it's no wider than Bolton street, I think someone is taking p??? Or they want a payout off new landowner.

Big drops to a brook can soon be filled in and with pipes the brook can go in a straight line from the dam bridge to the railway bridge. They have built on most of what was Slaters pen which was on different levels and built houses on Booths Brow Road again land which was on a slope. I asked via this thread about the waste plot of land at the bottom of Leyland Green Rd and got a reply back that it was mainly colliery waste from the Quacker Pit, Again this can be dug out and backfilled ready for a pair of houses

A question for anyone that can answer. In which month and year did the old S&s close, and the new one open?

They can build any where today Murphy's own quite a bit of land around dag

it must have been in the 50s as i can remember playing in the old ruins in the early 60s .

I have been watching the MASH repeats & i think it,s the best comedy on TV after all thease years, There are too many quiz , cookery& other rubish on at the moment.

Tumtingle get Netflix loads of good stuff on there just watching Suits no wonder Harry fell for Meghan, she's a sexy sod

Dougie how did your stay in the Brittannia hotel go? I looked on Tripadvisor and out of over 5000 reviews over 3000 were from average to terrible. Also I am thinking you bought overpriced items while you were there

Hi Peter, going this week will let you know stayed there before and everything as been OK but I don't expect to much for £35 room, now if I was paying £100 plus a night that would be something else this is an offer room, we are talking centre of Manchester, Travelodge room was £72

P.S. Did go to Lytham St-Anne's 5 days last week M/F for £114

who was that young girl who threw herself off the motorway bridge at d/green rd ? .

Can't find any names on news Bri, suppose we will just have wait.

yep dav it,s gone very quiet . she,s in salford royal .

anyone heard about this girl ? .

We must have dropped lucky as we got a fully refurnished room with double bed plus room for a third bed in an alcove with a cover round, nothing wrong with the Hotel and only 100 yards from Piccadilly Gardens.
A pint in most of the beer gardens was £6+£1.50 for the returnable Glass or Mug if not returned they would be given to charity, you could see young lads walking round picking up empty glasses and taking them back (I did see them giving money but don't know how much)

Some people must have money to burn £7-50 a pint Then to just throw the glass away

is it yet time for the "christmas polka" dav . sadly your partner in crime is not with us anymore .

Not far off now Bri, I was only thinking other day about all good times in village with the free and easy weekends, there sure was some characters in there, one of sammys favourites was big Chris singing his version of the Blackpool Bell, the place was buzzing and in uproar great times Bri glad I still got the memories.

to true dav . gud times had by all . youngy still talks about you & big chris & the christmas polka .

Ha Ha, yes they was good times Bri, i aint seen youngy in years we used go Ashton at weekends from Bell, there must of been about 20 lads that went and at that time Ashton was a good night out really great pubs with decent folk, then we would walk back up old road then low bank with a big tray of fish & chips from Dennis's supper bar.

quite true dav no taxi,s in sight . youngy seems to interested in his work at present . have spoke to him on the phone but not seen him in a while .

Fair play to him Bri last time I saw him he was doing well with his business, most of lads got hitched and moved on with their lives although I'm told a lot are still in surrounding area, I believe Dek Higham moved away but visits his father who still lives on estate somewhere, i had a lot of time for Dek he was a funny lad and a great mate at time, to think it's almost 50 years ago since we all knocked about together is scary, sure do wonder how time has past us so fast.

he,s in newcastle dav & his dad lives at the other end of my street .

So is he in same house derek was brought up in, we used watch movies there when his parents went bed, ironically his Dad was in same class at school with my father, and is on the album with curly shaw, Bill Ryder, Arthur speakman and rest of gang at the time.

Top lad Derick comes down every fortnight to see is dad

yes dav ive got that pic .

Probably only Derek living now off that pic Bri.

dont know dav ? .

I'm not sure who may still be with us Bri, but Derek will be 89 now.

did you know christine clark mother of janet & lynne clark has died dav ? .

Yes I did hear Bri, nice family I remember them living at top of Birch grove next to Hiltons.

another sad day dav , thelma simm has died .

R I P THELMA .SHE MUST HAVE BEEN A GOOD AGE.?

So sad Bri, her husband Tommy and my father were cousins R.I.P Thelma.

What a shock about Thelma. I was talking with her at length at my mum's funeral. What a lovely lady. Thoughts and prayers are with all the family.
God Bless Thelma. R. I. P.

Barry Cunliffe who lived at the end of Booths Brow passed away last week. He was only 55yrs old. May he rest in peace

so sorry to hear about Thelma,she was a lovely woman,i used to talk to her when i used to go our Georges who lived across the road from her and Tommy.RIP THelma,

RIP THELMA SO SORRY TO Hear about Mrs Clarke to RIP

RIP Barry only talking to him 2 wik back is dad bri worked wi thi dad at Leyland green road pit big Roy cunliffe nice family

R.I.P Barry, remember going up to pit Malc with wheelbarrow and big Roy filling it for us, his shovel was that big it only took a couple of scoops.

RIP Barry

I remember dave alway fúll barrow wi Roy n Tommy brians dad how's Mrs Lewis

R. I. P Barry.
Thoughts and prayers are with his family

She is fine thanks Malc, oh yes always a loaded barrow we had keep stopping pick coal up that fell off, and it was hard control coming down Birch Grove and then struggling going up at other side, great days though Malc.

They was that Dave where's all time gone tho They were great times just guin playing football Ney I must bi blown um

malc the guy could,nt do my roof he,s booked up .

What about them lads what's doing dickies Brian

already asked dicky & they hav,nt been around for 3 weeks malc .

Hi Bri, did you know spike's mother has been in hospital last few days she's having a minor operation tomorrow and hope's to be out tuesday.

no i did,nt dav , hope she,s alright .

Hi Brian, I'm wondering if you have heard when Thelma Simm's funeral is. I haven't seen any of the family to ask.

not as yet sue . if i get to know i,ll put it on here .

Thanks Brian

Whups picked a number up today for roof repairs bloke from Standish Anthony 07545382312 give him a bell

i,ll take a look . sue thelma,s funeral is on friday at the holy trinity . i dont know the time yet but when i do i,ll put it on here .

Thanks again Brian.

sue it,s 10-30 at H T.

Ok cheers for that Brian

Hi Bri, spike's mother is home now and doing well, she's had implant to keep her heartbeat regular.

good news then dav .

dav spike,s next door neighbour our derek,s wife vicky has just passed away this morning due to covid . she,s just had her birthday , she was just 43 .

That's shocking Bri, your family have had a very bad year condolences to Derek and family. R.I.P Vicky.

yes we have dav & it can only get better i hope .

So sorry to hear this sad news Brian. Thoughts and prayers are with all the family.

it,s the 5th family member in around 12mths susan .i,m getting scared to pick the phone up .

I know, it's harsh Brian but here's hoping that the New Year will bring good luck, safety and happiness to you and all present and ex Downall Greeners.
Best wishes to you all

Thanks suesa, all the best love.

All the very best to you all take care and hopefully a better 2022 happy new year

let,s all hope it,s a better one .

Be better when Boris is kicked out of office & put somone with a bit of sense in his place better still lets vote the Labour party in at the next election,read yesterday that the people who voted tory are comming home.

1 things for sure bentlegs that if we dont vote labour the NHS will go as they already have plans in place to sell it off .

A big part of the NHS is already privatised. Most (?) GP’s surgeries/clinics/health centres (call them what you will) are franchised.

I reckon a return to Labour will result in a return to the EU. (?)

that would,nt go amiss tonker ? .

It would do me a favour, whups!

I will agree with you all guys, the last few years has been nail biting, we definitely need a change in politics I'm sick of all lies and corruption.

It makes no difference who's in charge they'll balls it up only 1 Mon we any idea and he balls it up guy fawkes there all same

sorry to disagree with you malc but 1 party cares about nothing only money while the other cares about it,s people . this is why the torys get in because of negative thinking by labour supporters who fail to use their vote . just remember 2 things , a tory always vote & labour wont use their vote . can anyone tell me wot the torys have done for the common man in the last 11yrs ? .

…… apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system and public health, what have the Tories ever done for us?

apart from breaking manifesto pledges , making the prescription age go up from 60 - 66 , selling the nhs off behind our backs ,letting big businesses & the rich send their money out of the country without paying tax ,turning a blind eye to covid costing lives , dropping universal credit while bending over backwards for big business . and this is for you tonker , voting us out of the EU with "get brexit done" . wot have the torys done for us ? .

Drove up Leyland Green Road and there is a for sale sign tilted over at the end of the Red gate road. I googled the area and thought how many houses could be built on the old filter beds and the reservoir. I cannot see UU every reclaiming it and refilling with water. Prime site for houses.

This what's going on up there Peter

LeylandGreenRoad
Hope the link works

looks like the boundry line is the brook from the top raz . this plan was put to the residence,s about 2-3yrs ago in case anyone wanted to objet to the building plans .

nothin goin on guys ? .

Hi Bri, I don't know if you knew little Barry Dutton who went in pear tree at one time and an ex pitman, he's passed away at 69, he would have been going in there when you played darts for them.

if there,s a pic of him i might know him dav ? .did you know dave hart who lived on landgate ? .

I don't recall a Dave Hart Bri, but knew loads of people by faces.

If it is the same Dave Hart when he got married he lived on Old Road. He then moved to Winstanley, He was in the local news a couple of years ago when he was out walking with his Boxer dogs and he nearly lost them over a shear drop masked by a low hedge and no fencing

not sure.

It’s Colin. I saw Leggy in Haydock this afternoon and he told me. Heart attack, rumoured, only 58!

Played football wi dave and Lawrence Hart there brothers rip Colin good lad

hi dav saw spike today clomping past my house goin home i assume . how,s his mother ? .

Hi Bri, she was doing fine last time i spoke to him, if his foot has healed now there will be no stopping him from brownbottling, owd flagstamper likes a jar or two.

oh he definitely stamped a few flags on his way home yesterday dav .

Where will he drinking ney then dav his mam must be getting on ney dav bri dit sort thi roof

yep malc .

He used go St Helens Malc but he aint been out all through lockdown. don't think he goes in bell to often he says it's to dear, his mother is 98 now.

Very bri 98 not out good batting not been in Bell since dave Houghton funeral it's gone like rest on um fleece is becoming flats king arms eating house aldi in Ashhton mac dee s

Such a shame that Malc, kings arms fleece angel was a few of my old haunts as a young lad.

as was they all was to us .

Whups they have missed your custom that's why they have shut

Not many places left now boys it's a shame but it's a past time now

Aye it's sad, greedy breweries and government have killed our pubs, we don't have long serving landlords now like frank fielding (pear tree over 30yrs) and (Russ miller Tudor 38yrs) (Walter hingemakers) only one I know of now is Ian Thorpe of Anvil, yep there biting the dust.

your quite right dav defo breweries & their rentals .

Thi only way make it pay is own the pub mi thinks

True Malc, the pub I was in the owner put it up for sale at £800.000 after 2years the only interest someone showed was an Indian restaurant owner who wasn't prepared to pay that outrageous amount, so now it's rented at £400 a week.

when arthur williams had the bell it was valued at £ 250,000 . i wonder wot the price is now ? . we knew then that the only way to make it pay was to buy it outright because of the new barrelage scheme the brewery put in & that,s wot,s killing the pubs even now .it,s the sole reason arthur got out when he did .

£150,000 CAN BUY PARISH HALL

That's true Bri, it's certainly better to own a free house these days then you can negotiate the price of beer.

Own pubs and just sell cans soon fill skip up for a weigh in quid s in

dav did you know alan hurst who had the park hotel . i think he was an evlis impersonator .

That name rings a bell Bri, when was he in park I ain't been up there for a long time but I knew the people who had it in 90s.

i dont know dav . anyway he,s passed on .

So sorry to hear that Bri, the couple I knew took over from Frank fielding at pear tree, they was there for a while then moved to the park and did very well by all info I received but not sure if they still there, thanks for info Bri.

is the pear tree still going dav ? .

Yes it is Bri, but not the pub it once was, people came from all over for the meals When Frank & jean ran it, to be honest I only been in a few times since Frank left as you know they had best darts team around especially when you threw for them, the pub was packed day and night back then they loved winning Rose bowl and other competitions, I was very friendly with Frank he was a proper landlord and never seen without a tie, there is only 3 guys left from old pear tree and one of them knows you well ( Peter fishwick) such a demise of a very good pub.

yes dav i know peter very well . i was on that rosebowl team & how we won it i,ll never know after being 4-0 down & win it 5-4 . if you see peter give him my regards .

I certainly will Bri, nice chap Peter I'd actually forgot to mention Dave Bennett who took over the Guardians on frog lane for a few years later to run the prince of wales on woodhouse lane, but Dave was really better on other side of bar.

There's been plenty like dave especially in dav no pubs are same now proper landlords didn't need doormen back then but then again not as many piss pots about ie drugs

yes dav dave bennet too . hope they are all doing well . i heard peter lost his wife a few years ago .

Yes he did Bri, next time I see him I will pass on your regards that will cheer him up, Malc the white powder has taken over everywhere you go that's what has killed social life in Wigan, long gone have the days of turning out for a quiet pint with the old school as these powder sniffing idiots will spoil it, and as you know we have no police anymore when I go out for a pint it's to the Anvil in afternoon I won't go out at night it's full of powder zombies.

That it is pal can't remember last time I went dyn Ashton at neet

who,s to blame for that dav ? .

I would say the government, they frigged everything else up to.

It was start of it all stoping all discipline in skoos bri clip round thi old lug did no harm boys

All do gooders put a stop to that Malc, kids in them days ran if they saw a bobby even if tha did nowt wrong, today they are chasing police and pelting them with whatever they can throw, government have reduced police force that don't help matters, teachers can't discipline these days so kids rule, that's why we have all these burglaries and drug abuse and it's rising, every time ya switch tell on someone has been stabbed by teenagers this didn't happen back in the days, some parenting today is terrible, I can only assume the cause is kids bringing kids up.

cant argue there guys .

Nail on head dav

scaffolding gone up today malc.

Very good bri glad thy geet sorted pal

yep want some decent weather now .

Looking at state on it bri it be spring who doing for you

you could be right malc.

hi dav dec higham,s dad old derek has passed away . another greener gone .

Oh shocking news Bri, young Derek will be gutted old Derek was a true gent, I remember him well he was in same class with my father and rest of old rum greeners at central school, as you know they are on wiganworld album, thanks for info Bri, condolences to My old mate Derek and may you rest in peace Mr Higham.

Spoke to Derek last neet is gutted and rightly so is dad is old man was a really nice chap spoke to him regularly in Ashton iam gutted mi self mi grandsons called him BFG RIP MR HIGHAM

Hi whups , When you say an old Greener did he live on the DG estate in the 40/50/60 as a can't bring him to mined like I can others, if so where, may he R.I.P anyway

Derek came from stubshi Cross like many more of estate did back then lived there in hawthorn avenue long as I can remember and is lad Derek is 59 rip

Thanks' Dag, but still can't remember him, knew most of them at that age

yes dougie he was there in the 60s .

sorry but with you saying an old D.Greener, I should've known him but I had moved off the estate by 63, so I understand now why,-- thanks

if you remember frank tatum then derek lived next door joined onto his .

Whups
didnt Derek have a brother called Sid you would know him from darts matches.lived on bryn estate .

yes he did john & another brother too .

Whups, Didn,t Derek live in the end house on Hawthorne Ave, I think he moved in in 67-8, My mother-in-law lived in the same house before him ,remember George & Peter Mc Nulty,

yes i did know mcnullty & i was born across the road at no 31 which was my grandma,s house . i dont remember derek moving in there after mcnultys left ? .

i think Derek lived in third house from birch grove end on left, when i mated with young Derek, geoff mclymont lived in end house.

Tumtingle, your mother-in-law and her family lived in Poplar Ave from 1947 and still lived there when 1963 I left, have you forgotten in your old age

jeff was,nt married then when mcnultys left dav . i cant remember who moved in after they left but your right on where derek lived .

just heard that june prior has passed away . mark prior,s mother .

and you never said good by R.I.P, June

Oh dear, another greener gone she was a lovely lady, I had many a pint with her father George Foster in village, R.I.P June.

from wot i gather she,s not been well for quite a while dav . condolences to the family of mark , helen,wendy & ian.

Condolences to family RIP June

i,ve heard that kevin duffy is on quest tonite with drew prichard & tee . it,s only hearsay at the minute ? .

Hi Bri, carl has put on Facebook that they are on quest on the 23rd March, I will have a look tonight then.

ok dav . i,ll put it in my diary .cheers

Drew & Tee will be on Quest+1 (76 channel) on my TV tonight at 9,00pm, then again at 10,00pm with a new show, don't know if Kevin's place will be on any off them but will be looking in to see

IT'S NOT BEEN ON TO_NIGHT

dav heard the old landlady peggy has passed away .

Oh so sad, they was a very nice couple R.I.P Peggy.

got the message on whatsapp dav.

Hi Bri, that's good I was flicking through and noticed it, should be fun with vegas involved.

kev,s already watched it .

Don't forget guys, Rectory Nurseries with Kevin & carl are on quest channel tonight at 9pm.

I think it,s time Dave, Getting a bit long in the tooth.

hi dav watched it last night & saw wot they valued kevins plaster cast at .

yes Bri i was suprised johnny vegas bought summat, he's normally that tight he only cries through one eye.

they said they were taking him to wigan but he was still in st helens dav .

Yes that's true Bri, it still hurts me that a Wigan estate could be transferred to St. Helens borough and still has all Wigan connections, just goes to show how unorganised the so called powers that be are.

dav we will ALWAYS be wigan because when we were born we was still in wigan & registered in wigan .

I'm definitely a wiganer now Bri, I'm right in The heart of it such a pity there is nowt in place these days, only 2 shops left in galleries and they will be gone in April, work has started in the basement for the new car parks.

WN40PY 01942 says it all wigin always will be greeners greeners

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