Corbyn on the SAS

this is what you need when you are risking your life for your country

scumbag...

How can anyone vote for this man and his bunch of cretins.

I will always vote for Jeremy Corbyn, Always.....


...just as soon as he descends onto planet Earth and joins the normal people on our planet.

At the moment he is lost in space....IDIOT...

I wonder what he meant when he said the SAS wasn't wearing their own clothes, does he mean they weren't dressed in balaclavas and what not

seeing as the SAS were in basrah wonder why never mentioned the war entered on a tony blair lie?

The man is a traitor to this country. Nothing more needs to be said about this moronic man.

The man is a traitor to this country. Nothing more needs to be said about this moronic man.

How on earth did this man become leader of the Labour Party. He has never stood for anything , in opposition to everything ,No Ministerial or Shadow MInister experience. The Labour Party needs to go back to what it should be . Not a party that supports nutters from fringe groups. That is Corbyn supports every cause their is . But what has he ever done in the time he has been in parliament , but oppose

Someone on Wiganworld has said he can set up a Meeting with Jeremy Corbyn.
I would like to suggest a venue, how about Mcdonalds on Bridge street in Warrington.

no whups, no wigan diver or grim,sad dog, salmon and ballcock etc etc.NO DEFENCE FROM THE LUNATIC LEFT.
disappointment runs deep to have a leader ? like our jeremy.

probably because of the lieing right whingers like you .

Whups
Are those photos telling a lie?
or are you also an IRA supporter

Posted by: baker boy (14645) [10,000+] Report abuse

"no whups, no wigan diver or grim,sad dog, salmon and ballcock etc etc.NO DEFENCE FROM THE LUNATIC LEFT.
disappointment runs deep to have a leader ? like our jeremy."

Can you get someone to translate that schoolboy rant, please?

LUNATIC LEFT ?

That looks like shouting and ranting from the ranting right.

Why should I defend Corbyn ? I didn't even vote for him, or support him.

Any response to the fact that British Government officials also held secret talks with the PIRA during the troubles?

Thought not.

So we have Corbyn criticising and mocking our servicemen,
Then we have photos of Corbyn huddling with the terrorists that have murdered hundreds of our servicemen.

Conclusion?

Posted by: wigandiver (73)
"Why should I defend Corbyn ? I didn't even vote for him, or support him."

Can you understand that, ZS?
What Wigandiver typed also applies to me

Wigandivers voting preferences are between him and his conscience,
I don't recall refering to him in any way shape or form.

"huddling with the terrorists that have murdered hundreds of our servicemen.

Conclusion?"

That could equally apply to the Government Officials, who held talks with the PIRA.

All finding ways to stem the violence.

Jaw jaw jaw is better than war war war.
Reecognise the saying ?

Are you seriously trying say there is an equivalence?
You have already tried to defend him on the Ian Austen thread.
So do you agree with his comments about our servicemen?

ZS.
Keep your nose out of anyone else's voting preferences.
It's nothing to do with you

I don't give a monkeys who anyone one votes for. It's their choice and it has to be respected.
Now go and toddle off and spout your Breakit bile elswhere

“I think for a party leader to be so neutral on it is strange indeed. I think for any party leader to say ‘I am not taking a position on such things’ is very strange, especially for a major party leader because it’s not like they’re a small party. It’s almost as if he can’t bring himself to say it.

Colin Parry
Father of Tim Parry 12 yrs old
Murdered by The PIRA

Do you disagree with mr Parry?

This question is for WD and S&B

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3471)

"Do you disagree with mr Parry?"

I totally, 100% agree with Mr Parry.
Now, what has that got to do with the Labour party and Brexit?
You are taking it to the extreme now
You are totally out of order bringing those tragic events in to it to get your opinion across. Leave it out.

Look at the title of the thread

Oops.

I think Corbyns gripe could be with the legitimacy of them being there and not the troops themselves?

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ZS is using any tool at his disposal to have a dig at the Labour party. It's eating away at him and he will stop at nothing to get his point across.
His hatred of it and the remain supporters is there for all to see on other threads. He is obsessed with it and will stoop to any level to get his point across .
I'm not getting involved with his agenda anymore.

We must have been watching different videos.
You do Not critisise men who are laying down their lives for their country.

S&B
Ok
Toddle off

Who's deciding that they do and are they there legitimately.
I think his point is you can't have them laying down their lives on the whim of one person and parliamentry authority must be sought before doing so, or they could be seen to be there illegally?

"You do Not critisise men who are laying down their lives for their country."

People who disagreed with the UK's involvement in Iraq could argue that the troops were not "laying down their lives for their country." They were there, because they were ordered to be there.
Read up on the Chilcot inquiry.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/iraq-inquiry-key-points-from-the-chilcot-report

I have criticised people who have carried out violent acts, or condone violence, and will continue to do so.

I can find no justification for the Warington bombings, nor the events in Ballymurphy, or Londonderry.
if it is wrong: it is wrong. I hope that is clear enough.

I know they were there illegally,
It was one Anthony Lynton Blair and his dodgy dossier that sent them.
That's why his ire was directed at the servicemen.
Still, he is on record for condemning the British Army but has refused numerous times to condemn the terrorists of the PIRA

"People who disagreed with the UK's involvement in Iraq could argue that the troops were not "laying down their lives for their country." They were there, because they were ordered to be there"

They were not laying down their lives for their country because they were ordered there?

So let's get this straight,
Any service man who has been ordered to a war zone hasn't laid down his life for his country.
Do you realise how pathetically stupid that sounds

I imagine anyone on this site who has relatives who have died in the two major Wars of the last century, and the more recent ones will appreciate you saying that they didn't lay down their lives for their country

My father fought in WW11, and he was fighting for his country.

Not all wars fought by British forces are fought to defend this country. Quite a few were fought for political reasons and the Iraq war was a classic example.

My country, right, or wrong, is not a strong moral argument.

Try to consider that opinion.

P.M. Boris is thinking about sending S.A.S.troops over to Syria to bring back the children of ISIS fighters in a repatriation programme. Why?

Johnson, (Boris), is thinking ?

WD
So is it your opinion that any British servicemen who died in say Iraq or Afghanistan, didn't lay down their lives for their country?

There are no excuses for Corbyn no matter how people try to defend him, he is a traitor.

Makes no odds if our forces are fighting for this country or any political war elsewhere, they are deployed and go and do the job they are trained for, whether they agree with it or not. Most service men and women want to use the unique skills they have been trained in. A little respect is all they ask.

He'll get more votes from the workshy if they think they have a chance to get back on invalidity benefits when he gets shut of universal credit. Never seen as many Lazarus's in Wigan when they had their benefits stopped, crutches thrown to one side, mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay. Yet they still make it on foot to the Moon Under The Water for an early morning pint. Don't say it ain't so cos I seen em and know a few.

does anyone from the left fully comprehend the damage corbyn's policies would do to the economy.
from being a young socialist i have gradually moved my politics more central/right,seeing the damage labour does when its in power.

We now have a minister for homlessness and a minister for suicide prevention.
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Never remember us needing them in the past.

Posted by: TerryW

" mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay"

Do they not have to return them if they lose their benefits?
Surely they cant sell them if they don't own them?

and how come labour clubs were always packed mornin noon and neet with the same folk each day well before the mobility scooter did any labour supporter actually do any work...

Did you receive that Harley D you was crowing about a few months ago?

"WD
So is it your opinion that any British servicemen who died in say Iraq or Afghanistan, didn't lay down their lives for their country?"

They lost their lives, and many became disabled, due to the lies told by Blair.

Hypocrisy of the highest order laughing stock.

What ?

he has,nt a clue chatty as he never moves out of his flat.who,s sas is it shearer & sheringham ? .

When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

Socrates

wd
My post was aimed at the guy who a few months ago was taunting the 'tax payers' on here that we would soon be 'buying' him a new motorcycle due to the benefits he claims, but than has the brass neck to post about 'labour supporters actually doing any work' and 'mobility scooters'

Thanks.

"They lost their lives, and many became disabled, due to the lies told by Blair."

They lost their lives or became disabled doing their job for this country. Stop trying to make it sound like an industrial accident. Those that died died for their country.

"posted by: TerryW

" mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay"

Do they not have to return them if they lose their benefits?
Surely they cant sell them if they don't own them?"

I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go.

Getting back on track.

All those Corbyn cheerleaders have to face facts that he isn't well liked by the majority of people or his own party members, members who have publicly said he isn't fit to be the leader of the party let alone be PM.

maybe they died ? .for all those right wing whingers what do you think about farrage,s £320,000 per annum from his EU mep spin-offs ? . hypocrite or wot.

"maybe they died ? .for all those right wing whingers"

Very respectful.

"what do you think about farrage,s £320,000 per annum from his EU mep spin-offs ?"

Goes with the job.

I seem to remember you saying just the same about Scargill the wannabee Tory on his fleecing the NUM for his £34,000 a year luxury flat he'd been keeping for 20 odd years when the NUM didn't know they were paying the rent.

Better still he applied for the £1 million property at a knock down price in 1993 under the Right To Buy scheme. THATCHERS right to by scheme.

No wonder the miners ended up on their arses with a leader like that, took them all up the river without a paddle and left the daft buggers there.

You ask most ex service personnel why they signed up, and rarely do they mention serving their country.
Most fought for their mates.

For many it was a job, but too may paid a very high price.

Even now, they are partly reliant on charities for support, and that is a disgrace.

goes with the job.your on the wrong horse as i,ve never said anything about our glorious leader arthur.the reason the miners were split was the introduction of a bonus scheme . we had a vote on it & voted to reject it by 2-1 & nationally by the same margin but they introduced it anyway , so much for democracy.you dont half put bad blogs on here .

Well said whups .

chatty no i did'nt get the harley it would have left me short i did tho get a honda vtx 1800 a big v-twin for about half the price and more reliable out of the money i was left..

"You ask most ex service personnel why they signed up, and rarely do they mention serving their country."

I don't need to ask.

terry would you share a trench with these ****s? you'd need a steel plate for your back!

"goes with the job.your on the wrong horse as i,ve never said anything about our glorious leader arthur"

Oh yes you did when I posted about him and his luxury flat. Why do you never post about him taking two very large cuts from the Libyan donation one for £29,000 as a bridging loan and another £25,000 for his home improvements at his Yorkshire house, but he only gave £10,000 to the Notts miners. Not to mention the £1,000,000 Russian donation for the Welsh miners he hid away in an Irish bank until 12 months after the strike had ended, It almost made the Scots and Welsh miners to split from the NUM.

Why do you fail to posts this about that "glorious leader"? Stealing from men on the picket line that's some leader.

LG, wouldn't share a tin of compo sausages with them let alone stand by them.

out of the money i was left..

That was far from the implication you gave (or meant) with your post taunting tax payers for buying you a new motorcycle.

Meaning that's more weasel words from Wigan Worlds s number 1 hypocritical backtracker

chatty in what world do you live if you think i get enough benefits to buy new bikes

You made the post!
But we can cut to the chase by you telling us when you last had fulltime employment and how long you've had and how many bikes you've had since that time.

easily i last worked in 2010 took voluntary redundancy i bought a bike 4 months before on credit card insurance paid it off and gave me just over 800 cash back as well,i sold that in 2011 and bought a bigger one i had that a few month and bought a crashed bike off ebay for 1020 pound did that up and sold the other one,in the meantime i got 4000 pound back off ppi i already had redundancy money, i kept the bike i paid 1020 for until june this year till i got my new un,im still waiting to be paid for my last bike,i dont drink or smoke...

Just need Eamonn Andrews now with his little red book. 🏍🏍🏍🏍

he did ask..not goin toneet then broady.

Snowed in. Just going to put the TV on and watch them trounce the Gunners.

Posted by: TerryW (1868)

"I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go."

Yes. They have to be returned.

In my opinion if a person has a mobility scooter on the mobility scheme then they genuinely need it.
If they were just after the benefits (PIP) then surely they would accept the cash rather than have a scooter hire taken out of their allowance?

A lot of people, including my next door neighbour buy their own.

chatty posts we now have a minister for homelessness and suicde prevention,he does not remember having them in the past.thats because we used to let them the homeless freeze to death , never knew anyone had mental health problems it was a taboo subject,discarded by yon mons round the bend..

bakers boy posts 'that's because we used to let the homeless freeze to death, never knew anyone had mental health problems it was a taboo subject'

And I suppose before foodbanks we use to let them starve to death?
'There's good within foodbbanks I think it's uplifting'....guess who?
Jacob Rees Mogg!

'mental health problems it was a taboo subject'.
17000 people have died whilst waiting for sick or welfare benefits under this goverment.
Now that is TABOO!

Forget what anyone tells you look for yourself.
Can anybody on here recall walking through Wigan during the day, 40/30/20 even 15 years ago and remember seeing doorway after doorway filled with sleeping bag after sleeping bag were people are living night after night?

How many of thoses people are actually homeless.
Pretending to be homeless these days is very lucrative

I have been reading about the Labour Conference in Brighton last week. My observation , God help the UK if this Marxist/ Trotkisty and his mad mates ever come to power. Their policies would put the Country into poverty. What has happened to the once great Labour Party. It seems to have been taken over by supporters of nutters and terrorists. What a shame for a party that did so much for working people.

Zanzibar Spangles, None of them are homeless!! Their butler brings them breakfast in bed every morning, Then he lays their rags out for the day. The chauffeur drives them to Wigan town centre (in the obligatory Mercedes) whereupon they get sit down outside Greggs with their paper cup and the good people of Wigan hand them fivers (always fivers)! I know this to be true because they have been seen counting said fivers in the pub before getting back into the Mercedes to be driven back to Homeless Mansions!

How many of thoses people are actually homeless.
Pretending to be homeless these days is very lucrative

You tell me you're the one disputing it?
Who's informing you it's 'lucrative pretending to be homeless these days'?
I am telling you what I see with my own eyes not what any newspaper or television tells me.
Yea I'm sure they've all got warm beds and homes to sleep in but prefer B&M bargains doorway.

I will concede though, one benefit claiment on here seems to have done quite well out of it over the past 10 years.

I know it's lucrative because quite a number of them have told me so.
They come into my shop all the time to change coins into notes (their dealers only take notes).

THERE SEEM'S TO BE A VERY BITTER AND JEALOUS MAN ON HERE,IT SEEM'S I GET SO MUCH IN BENEFITS HE CLAIMS I GET FREE BIKES...BWAHAHAHA

I see it's more lucrative to be homeless sleeping in shop doorways than having a roof and warm bed.

No jealousy on my part just pointing out more 'irony' from the bloke who's been on benefits for 10 years posting .......

and how come labour clubs were always packed mornin noon and neet with the same folk each day well before the mobility scooter did any labour supporter actually do any work...

They're not there at night in then shop doorways

Chatty I was going to work when I walked past the labour clubs and seeing the same folk in morning noon and neet oh and since I've been unemployed do you know the last time I had a neet out up Wigan? Well let me tell you August bank holiday 2010 believe it or not

have you ever asked yourself if those people your on about are retired or working night shift or on zero hour contracts? . are you blaming those people for the unemployment in this country ? .

I think the 'irony' is the people 'who used to spend all day in the club when you was going to work" have now turned into the folk who use their money on WIFI and spend all day on the internet boasting about working people 'buying them a new bike', when I'm going to work.

I see, so the ones sleeping in the shop doorways (ie the homeless) are 'not there at night in then shop doorways'?

just a typo, no need to punch the air,

No they are not in the shop doorways at night.
I am unfortunate enough to live close to their 'gaff' there a about half a dozen living there.

not jealous or bitter yet keep bangin on...

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Zanzibar Spangles, None of them are homeless!! Their butler brings them breakfast in bed every morning, Then he lays their rags out for the day. The chauffeur drives them to Wigan town centre (in the obligatory Mercedes) whereupon they get sit down outside Greggs with their paper cup and the good people of Wigan hand them fivers (always fivers)! I know this to be true because they have been seen counting said fivers in the pub before getting back into the Mercedes to be driven back to Homeless Mansions!"

Your wrong they get the train from Bolton, Manchester and Liverpool to come and do their work/begging. Then after a days graft off they go home to their flats/houses to copper up and visit their local dealer.

New figures, just out today as it happens:

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I wonder how many of those 726 poor sods would tell you homelessness is 'lucrative'...if they were alive to do so!

chatty your not rushing to take any in i bet..

When I quoted figures from that esteemed Government Dept. recently they were roundly condemned on these pages. I don’t remember the exact wording but it equated to “ nothing but Tory lies”

I notice you're showing a bit more bravado towards homelessness now than the time you came on here and had a dry scriek because you thought you may be losing your flat due to the bedroom tax.

Sickening far right rhetoric regarding the homeless..

Moronic tory twonks at play.Surprised your not all at M C bowing and scraping to your old etonian masters .

Pass the sick bag .

Well said chatty .

your the one championing the homelessness cause! do something about it take a few in or is it bluster your spouting?

I 'champion' the homeless cause by paying tax that goes towards supporting them. (and by not pretending they aren't out there)
You're the one with the spare bedroom because I vivedly remember you whining like a banshee on here that you may lose the roof over your head due to the bedroom tax, looks like you've had a change of tune on people living rough now that threat has passed

chatty plenty folk are homeless by choice and no i dont pretend they are not out there,most are druggies who have robbed their familys blind and been thrown out! they cant be trusted,the other reason is like it or not we have let too many immigrants in there are less homes coming free and when they do whos 1st in line? i dont see many immigrants in doorways do you?

There's people on here who don't see anyone in doorways apparently.
The ones I've passed bedded down in the early hours are just about to pack up and go home by all accounts!

WHUPS you seem to overlooked my post to you.

"Why do you never post about him taking two very large cuts from the Libyan donation one for £29,000 as a bridging loan and another £25,000 for his home improvements at his Yorkshire house, but he only gave £10,000 to the Notts miners. Not to mention the £1,000,000 Russian donation for the Welsh miners he hid away in an Irish bank until 12 months after the strike had ended, It almost made the Scots and Welsh miners to split from the NUM.

Why do you fail to posts this about that "glorious leader"? Stealing from men on the picket line that's some leader."

What is your take on this? Please don't say it's a fabricated story because it isn't it's well documented.

Be good Christians and take the homeless people in, give them a hot bath/shower clothe and feed them for as long as you wish, your tax will go towards others you are unable to take in so your safe there, plus you will actually be able to see exactly what your good deed has done for them.

Will you?

if you do take any in dont expect them to be grateful nor expect them to be there when you awake, when you stumble down stairs expect a wide open door and a bare living room.

What a steaming load of "Barry White".
Not all homeless people are drug addicts thieves or are there by choice.
Plenty are victims of circumstance, divorce, loss of a job, ex squaddies!
Yes those same squaddies who people earlier in this thread were telling us the British public should back them no matter what the circumstances or how they got there.
They get demobbed end up on the street and suddenly the same people are now denying they exist.

I'm not denying they exist they do. Like I said re-home them or make sure you take them to a refuge for the homeless, in the case of veterans contact the SSAFA team on 0800 731 4880 and give them their details.

They are very helpful not just for the homeless but also for their families.

I forgot to say you can if willing go to Molyneux House (The Hub) on School lane, Wigan with the details of the homeless vets. You never know who you may meet in there and they are always willing to help.

Wigan Council have an Armed Forces team to help as well. It's on their website.

chatty wigan council find homes for immigrants easy enough yet can't for ex service people try asking them why you will be threatened with prosecution for being racist...

funny iv,e never seen it.

Chatty
After visiting an establishment on Wigan Lane I decided to have a stroll through the town centre I took a few photographs
You mentioned Home Bargains doorway

I didn't see any homeless people on the streets of Wigan,
not one
I can prove it

Right that's conclusive, no homeless on the streets of Wigan then.
Best thing to do is forward it to the Brick Homeless Shelter project, inform them that you're onto their little scam (also could you ask them for the money back my daughter raised when she spent a group night on the streets a while back whilst you're in touch with them) and will be notifying the authorities, and hope to see them closed down by the end of the week.
If you could possibly post a picture of a clear blue sea whilst you're on a roll, we can put the 'there's too much plastic waste in our seas' malarky to bed once and for all as well!

there ain't any in the shop doorways

"There's people on here who don't see anyone in doorways apparently.
The ones I've passed bedded down in the early hours are just about to pack up and go home by all accounts!"

"I see, so the ones sleeping in the shop doorways (ie the homeless) are 'not there at night in then shop doorways'?"

"Yea I'm sure they've all got warm beds and homes to sleep in but prefer B&M bargains doorway"

So you are telling me the fact you have posted a photo of an empty shop doorway that in the past I have seen people sleeping rough in proves there are no homeless people in Wigan?

I stated that they weren't in the shop doorways at night.
This I know from person experience.
I also know categorically that there are a group of people pretending to be homeless because I know them, I know where they live and I see them regular in the town centre, begging.
But it's your hard earned, if you want to finance their habit, that's your business

I stated that they weren't in the shop doorways at night.

So you are telling me no one is or has ever slept rough overnight
in shop doorways in Wigan town centre?

Ps. I don't recall posting that I was 'financing anybodys habit'?

I can't say nobody has ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan like you can't say nobody has ever done naked cartwheels down Standish gate at 3am.
But I didn't see one person sleeping rough last night in Wigan town centre

Oh and I didn't say you were financing anyone's habit.
Read it properly

Well said, s+b, I thought it would have been common sense to "some people" that they buy there own scooters

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Posted by: TerryW (1868)

"I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go."

Yes. They have to be returned.

In my opinion if a person has a mobility scooter on the mobility scheme then they genuinely need it.
If they were just after the benefits (PIP) then surely they would accept the cash rather than have a scooter hire taken out of their allowance?

A lot of people, including my next door neighbour buy their own."

Having the scooter gives them more credit for their disability when they go for medical revues so they choose that option, the person who lives near me had one for years until the shake up, now the person walks everywhere and signs on at Brocal House. Apparently they "genuinely needed" the scooter for all those years and disability benefits that went along with it, It wasn't unknown for that person to visit the local betting shop and pub without the scooter. Two to three holidays a years while others went to work to pay for all this.

There bound to keep all there allowance and buy a cheap scooter

I'm glad we agree then that you 'can't say nobody has ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan'.

Oh and what in my posts made you think I would want to use my 'hard earned' to 'finance anyones habit'?

terry what about MPs 70,000+ a year who dont need to spend their wages as everything is claimed on expenses and are even given a 2nd home if they live more than 20 mile than london! they are worse than any benefit cheat..

Seems to have it in for people on disability benefit

I agree LG, it's a disgrace. But it doesn't help when people are pulling their guts out to bring up a family and pay rent or a mortgage when they can see their workshy neighbours living the high life by cheating the benefit system they also give a very bad name to the genuine disabled who need that money just to live any sort of normal life.

Is that the ones you said don't get up until supper time?

terry thats always been the case i'm afraid time after time we are told crime does not pay but theres plenty out there very rich because of it and they are not all the typical wrong un either,and as for the bad back brigade that been around for donkeys iv'e known people who never worked since leaving school,having said that iv'e always said i does not matter how much somebody else has it wont change my life so i dont worry about it,if nowt else terry those in work can take pride in earning what they do,never be bitter about other people getting things as you cant change it, no it isnt fair but has life ever been fair? be grateful with what you've got

so you are castigating people who arnt working are you laughing boy so lets look at the last time you worked then . this is part of your reply further up this blog --------- easily i last worked in 2010 took voluntary redundancy i bought a bike 4 months before on credit card insurance paid it off and gave me just over 800 cash back as well,i sold that in 2011 and bought a bigger one i had that a few month and bought a crashed bike off ebay for 1020 pound did that up and sold the other one,in the meantime i got 4000 pound back off ppi i already had redundancy money.

where have castigated anybody but MPs idiot?

Posted by: TerryW (1885)

"Having the scooter gives them more credit for their disability when they go for medical revues so they choose that option,"

I don't think so. Credibility does not come into it.
The fact that they are in receipt of benefits is enough evidence to say they have passed the criteria, interviews, medical checks etc and therefore they are entitled to whatever they are allowed.

But the person I mentioned in my post passed the medical criteria and was awarded all the benefit. Like many others they duped the doctors or whoever and cheated genuine people.

How can you dupe a doctor?
How can you falsify medical reports?
How can you be entitled to any benefit without conclusive evidence that proves your eligibility?

All these people passed all "criteria, interviews, medical checks etc"

Take your pick then explain how this came about.

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Chatty
In much the same way as I can't say no one has ever cartwheeled naked down standishgate.
Unlikely but not impossible

"How can you dupe a doctor?
How can you falsify medical reports?
How can you be entitled to any benefit without conclusive evidence that proves your eligibility?"

How can they be jailed/fined for doing what you imply can't be done?

Which doctor examined and passed this guy unfit and disabled, he had conclusive evidence and medical reports. How can he "carry his hefty £4,295 mobility scooter up five steps to his one bedroom Bournemouth flat - paid for by the taxpayer – for the last two years."

These aren't isolated cases, there is/was an epidemic of workshy cheats. Many brought to rights by the benefit shake up.



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Blame the powers that be.
They make the decisions, not the patient.
Its a bit like a sport referee.
They make the final decision, and you abide by that

But you say the powers that be can't be duped.

Make your mind up.

terry on the other hand theres plenty of cases where proffesionals have struck very ill and dying folk off all for government shilling...

Of course there are, LG. I'm just pointing out the disgusting practise of pretending to be disabled by able bodied people who are workshy. Why anyone would want to be disabled is beyond me, but the monetary factor for these types outweigh the moral factor.

terry i know what your saying,was'nt there a helpline where you phone and report benefit cheats? i wonder how successful it was and how many used it? now i'm not suggesting you use it or you would as we all moan about folk getting this and getting that,but when it comes down it,we dont like getting folk in trouble so what do we do..moan

Posted by: TerryW
"Make your mind up."

It was already made up!
The powers that be make the final decision!
They have not been "duped", they have made the wrong decision. They are human after all. Nobody is perfect

No. They have been duped by unscrupulous thieves, which doesn't say much for the examining doctors.

LG, I have no problem in reporting anyone for doing wrong.

Maybe people get better with treatment and are then deemed to be fit enough for work?
Hence, they lose their mobility benefits.
Just a thought

" They are human after all. Nobody is perfect"

But when they make an obvious error and say someone is fit for work when they patently aren't they become a bunch of Tory tossers.

I'm on about the medical experts, not the tory bunch.
We all know tories make mistakes.
Its a well known fact, especially with recent events

I meant the medical experts become Hunt's Gestapo or similar.

Great point, Broady.
I could not agree more
They are not all.....
"unscrupulous thieves," as terryw described them
There are a lot of genuine people, with genuine medical issues who have lost benefits due to the "Gestapo" as you described them

Look we all know I'm on about the workshy and not the genuine people on benefits, they are all unscrupulous thieves. Yes their treatment is usually someone dobbing them in and rightly so.

Chatty
In much the same way as I can't say no one has ever cartwheeled naked down standishgate.
Unlikely but not impossible

So you find it "unlikely" anyone as ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan?

naked

cartwheels

The figure would be much higher but for charitable organisation's like the aforementioned Brick Homeless Shelter

So where are they at night?
There are plenty during the day, but where are they at night

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3490)

"I didn't see any homeless people on the streets of Wigan,
not one
I can prove it"

I was in Chelmsford last week for a couple of hours. I never saw a policeman. Does that that mean they don't exist?
I also walked pass the taxi rank and I never saw a taxi.
do they not exist either?

They don't exist in the shop doorways of wigan at night

The ones when I have seen them.......... In shop doorways!
But thanks to organisations like the Brick who are working hard in finding them emergency beds there are a lot less than would be otherwise!
I know it must be a subject close to your heart or else you wouldn't have gone out in the middle of the night and taken a photo of an empty shop doorway but to suggest seeing someone sleeping rough in a shop doorway at night is as likely as seeing someone cartwheel naked down Standishgate is just wrong!

Ok then prove they don't exist!!!!!

Passing thru the town centre anyway as I do most nights.
This is a favoured spot during the day

As is this

And.....?

And.....?

Well you said they were sleeping rough in the town centre.
I have proved you wrong

Eh
You've showed me two photos, one shop doorway and a shot of Berkley Square.

I could show you more but it wouldn't make any odds. Those are the places they occupy during the day.

Where do they go at night?

Me thinks if you are showing photos to 'prove' people aren't sleeping in shop doorways.... you are only going to show empty doorways.

I have seen people sleeping in shop doorways during the night in Standishgate.
The fact they may or may not be there on any given night does not mean I did not see them with my own eyes, and that they have never been there.
As already stated the Brick are working hard to get such people off the street thank goodness.

Now we could go around in circles all night Anthony but I'm sure anyone familar with Wigan town centre in the evening in recent times is quite capable of making their own minds up on the subject.

I come thru the town centre almost every night.
I know for a fact.

I'll ask again, since they have sleeping bags and all their trankelments, they seem to be there for the night but when the night comes, they are gone.
Where?

I haven't a clue what happens to your daylight 'trankelments' brigade.
I can only comment on the ones I've seen sleeping in doorways in Standishgate, I think they are the same one's mentioned in the two links I posted reporting record numbers of rough sleepers in the Wigan area, unless of course they are completely wrong as well, and there as never ever been a rough sleeper in a Wigan shop doorway as you'd have us believe!

I ain't seen any

You don't say
I'm off to bed (not in a shop doorway fortunately)
I usually rise around 6.45, so if you shoot off now imagine how many empty shop doorways you can photograph and post before then to 'prove' there has never ever been a rough sleeper in a shop doorway in Wigan.

Sorry you aren't good at comprehension.
Diddums
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow being proved wrong, but it's ok for you to feel that way.
Now toddle off to bed an get a good nights sleep.

Eh.
No more 'evidence'?
I even got up 10 minutes early in anticipation!

'proved wrong'

Two photos of empty shop doorways and .... 'I aint seen any'.. isn't proof of anything.

As stated earlier I'll let other people make their minds up that, in a day and age were we need a minister for homelessness and one for suicide in a borough with nearly 300,000 people in it, and after reports of record rough sleepers in that borough by several different organisations, the chances of seeing rough sleepers in shop doorways is as "likely as seeing someone doing naked cartwheels down Standishgate".

TerryW (1895)1,000+ Report abuse

LG, I have no problem in reporting anyone for doing wrong.

Now why does that not surprise me

Wigan homeless outreach

The team have been out this evening in Wigan feeding and clothing the homeless

Every Wednesday from 6.30pm till 7.30pm

Weldone to the whole team

Homeless Aid UK

Have you a link for that info on feeding and clothing the homeless please.

link

link

bb , very commendable , good work team

Ta!

Chatty
When I say I didn't see a single person sleeping rough, are you in some way calling me a liar?

Good link, Basil. Thanks for bringing the plight of the homeless in Wigan to peoples attention.

Well done to the whole team, indeed

No I'm saying the fact YOU didn't see anyone sleeping rough isn't proof positive that people aren't or never have.

There's a bit of a dispute here about the actual figures for rough sleepers, give them a bell and tell them they're are both wrong it's actuall ziltch.
Link

I honestly believe your Donald Trump fake news school of reasoning: "I've not seen it so it isn't/ didn't/hasn't' happened wont catch on.

Particularly Amanda and Elaine who work tirelessly for the genuinely homeless,
My wife has been out with them helping on a number of occassions.

It's easy if you want to try to prove me wrong.
Go into the town centre after 11:30pm with your phone and photograph them.
Make sure your connected(meta data to corroborate the time etc)

EH.. the genuinely homeless..

Where did they suddenly appear from?

@ZS.

Maybe they helped them out of the B&M doorway prior to you taking the photo?
Just a thought.

I don't have to prove anybody wrong your the one in rabid denial, I'm just telling you what I've seen with my own eyes and have posted numerous links confirming it.
You're free to believe whatever you like!

this is getting quite boring. He said , she said , he said . Move on

Your welcome s+b

I agree aussie, they've been started by someone who only comes on to post crappy politics.

I travel through the town centre every night and there are no rough sleepers at 11:30,
not because I don't think anyone isn't homeless in Wigan but because they aren't there.
I know there are homeless people in wigan but they are not sleeping rough in the town centre.
Some buffoons on here are conflating beggers with the homeless which in my veiw
does more damage than help.
Beggars portray themselves as being homeless for obvious reasons,
not obvious to everyone but there you go

ZS. Do you look in every doorway, nook and cranny?
Or do you just walk up the main drag?

Do you check the local park? Do you check derelict buildings? Do you check the local bus station? Do you check anything apart from two doorways?

Just viewed your link basil .

Real good post .

Well done .

I seem to recall that a little while back you posted on here defending J C and how the tories were demonising him OR have i got that completely wrong.?

You have got it absolutely correct, I've seen how erroneous I was

The biggest buffon on here is the guy who is trying to tell me that things I have seen with my own eyes, I didn't actually see!

I haven't a clue what his motivation is!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3508)

Chatty
"When I say I didn't see a single person sleeping rough, are you in some way calling me a liar?"

Is he in some way calling you a liar, Chatty?

Never once alluded to what he'd seen or not seen, just relating my personal experiences.
Please learn to comprehend what you are reading

Please learn how to take proper photographs
Try and post one what is actually visible instead of posting photos what look like when the window cleaner has padded the window and forgot to put the blade and scrim on it

Unless my monitor screen needs cleaning?

Your screen needs cleaning

I cant see them on here.
Ive just downloaded it and its as clear as a bell
Pity its a load of your propaganda bull though

Some people do get worked up on the net.

You're not joking, now they're trying to disparage my photos,
as if the quality makes any difference.
I plead guilty

To not being David Bailey

Erroneous you say .

Hypocritical i would say .Who needs enemies etc etc.

A complete U turn.

Chatty and S & B have you by the balls .

Throw in the towel pal .

No they haven't

Speaking of u turns what about this meeting with corbyn you were gobbing off about.
Ha ha ha

READ my post soft knob.Ha ha ha.

When he is in my area you will have the opportunity to ask him what you like .

Lets see if you have the balls to ask in a room of people who will be waiting to campaign with him .

threat alert.common admin.thats a poor ,poor post.
the argument as been well and truly lost.

🙂

Personal insults, I love em, shows they lost the argument.
Very eager to meet Corbyn, I have a few corkers for him

A Russian spy,
an IRA sympathiser
and a racist
walk into a bar one evening,
the barman say's,
"Good evening Mr Corbyn,
the usual is it?"

Posted by: baker boy (14672)10,000+ Report abuse
threat alert.

Kipling, out say about Terry Tiny Tears when he/she says "always willing a visit!?

I've had a visit this morning, it was very nice.

I love a visit me because I'm a very nice man.

I no Terry Tiny Tears is all mouth, kipling, but you seem to have forgot to mention about him coming the big i am and being nasty

"Lets see if you have the balls to ask in a room of people who will be waiting to campaign with him"

Intimidation eh,
the implied threat of violence,
how very Labour

I'll still be there

Posted by: basil brush (12206)10,000+ Report abuse

I no Terry Tiny Tears is all mouth, kipling, but you seem to have forgot to mention about him coming the big i am and being nasty

Replied: 5th Oct 2019 at 11:15

Oh dear he must have got out the wrong side of the bed this morning to be losing it so early. Must be an old age thing.

Oh and it's I 'know' not No.

No, just stating facts, unless of course it was somebody else who posted, the posts that i posted

Not good at your age all this worrying about me and losing it every time I post.

Why would i be worried about a nasty, all mouth, cowardly keyboard warrior who i despise?

Oh dear, is there no one there to help you calm down.

Again, just stating a fact.

I'll leave that with you at this point, I can feel see the anger is getting the better of you.

That's it.....run away🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔

No I'm still here, just not engaging with you why you are so stressed.

Wrong shirt.

Well if people see a big man with a daft top on, similar to this, they'll no it's you

walshy you say he/she is willing to visit,you frightened of a woman,you should be, you have annoyed enough of them if not all.your missus must be the opposite of yourself, she must be angelic ?.

Now Corbyn wants all the bloody Sunday veterans to face prosecution.
Who next?
The servicemen who landed on thr beaches of Normandy?
This traitorous tosser has criticised everyone but the IRA.

Margaret Thatcher - The Iron Lady
Tony Blair - Teflon Tony
John Prescott - Two Jags
Jeremy Corbyn - Buzz Lightyear (He does not know which planet he is on)

Boy, I would hate to think I had Corbyn behind me backing me up in a battle when fighting for my country.

Pi Eta, You missed one out:

Boris Johnson - Top Sha**er!!

Or Boris 'the listener'

Zanzibar, That's a little bit too unctuous, even for you!!

But he is listening

He's a do'er too despite the obstacles been thrown in front of him to hold things up further.

these people coming out of the woodwork to accuse boris of everything from the spanish inquisition to being pol pots right hand man.
wonder when nick the police informer ,now rightfully in prison will claim boris raped me.

you missed another one out BORIS THE LIAR.

Call him anything you like,
as long as he gets us out

So sad the division , fix it wont way or tohher

whups the slip
you meant boris the tryer.folk voted out, he's been trying to fulfil their wish,pity the back trackers aka the labour party did not live up to the same ideal,backing the people wishes.
they did say they would, but their just LIARS.

your the type of guy baker boy who would sell everyone down the river just to get brexit through . how would you like to face those workers at the nippon factory or halewood & say to them that you dont care if they lose their jobs because you want to leave at any price . you would run a mile.

Who's said they are going to lose their jobs?

The boss of Nissan.

The boss of Nissan uses the word "could" an awful lot.

"No Deal Brexit could put our whole European business in jeopardy"

"Could Force Closure Of Sunderland Car Plant, Warns Nissan Boss".

Which means he doesn't know.

I think he's got a better idea than anyone else.

Wishful thinking doesn't put food on the table.

Your thinking he's got a better idea than anyone else doesn't mean much either, so you both have no idea.

He's the boss. You are not.

Think I'll go with the organ grinder.

But he has no clue to what will happen. Neither do you, if you did both of you would say 'will' and not "could".

The only thing that will change after brexit is a bunch of greedy tossers will have to find another trough

there just ququeing up to leave & nissan has just scrapped the night shift causing more money loss for their workers. the french at halewood have been looking for an ecuse for the last 18months to leave & have already stated that they will look elsewhere if there is no deal.

They'll stay

NOT A CHANCE & they wont be on their own.

We'll see

At the expense of many a people's livelihood.

Very reckless with other's future.
Still to read of any economic benefits to leaving except sunny uplands. Trade deal with Trump ?

This government's calculation of the extra cost of no deal:
15 billion per annum. Look a the James O'Brien video with the Brit leaver living in Portugal.

It's called project fear, blame it all on brexit

Now you're sounding like Trump.

Any facts you don't like, (these are THIS government facts), is PF. Is that said when you stick your fingers in your ears and scream la la la ?

Go speak to a trawler man about industrial genocide, ask him what the common fisheries policy has done for his industry.

At the expense of peoples livelihoods

Whups

There aren’t any French car companies in Halewood. They operate over the water at Ellesmere Port.
The Nissan Qashqai is in a market segment, Crossover SUVs, that is falling in popularity. It’s sales are down by 15%, two of it’s main rivals, the VW Tiguan and the French Peugeot 3008, are down by 18%.
Hence the decision to go to double day shift working in lieu of the night shift.

Gaffer he doesn't want the truth he only wants what he makes up in his head.

"Go speak to a trawler man about industrial genocide, ask him what the common fisheries policy has done for his industry."

Have a guess where the catches of in-shore fishermen go to. ?

It isn't the UK.

i meant coventry . funny you never mentioned nissan ? .

oh no whups its another slip up,the frenchmen at halewood,is it a pub.

dont worry when it happens you cant all crawl back in your holes .

Absolutely spot on whups.
Tosser Terry using a pic of George is a complete and utter disgrace .

Vile dosnt begin to describe .

he lied about that too grim.

Stop crying about me and George you Muppets and concern yourselves with how you come across on WW one who's as thick as two short planks and the other a dirty old man who's obsessed with male private parts.

I can do as I please when and where I want to.

TTT, seems to like being associated with violence.

Isn't it a shame for him.

he cant fight his way out of a paper bag.

I can move about though.

Agree, whups

How do you know?

I think, whups, more people are finding out what he's truly like

They all know what you are, people have been saying it for years about you. Well before I joined.

Despite him trying to cover his tracks.

my mate fireplace told me exactly wot he,s like & he,s still not paid a penny in tax from 1982.

I don't know anyone called Fireplace you pleb.

you wont do as he died last july.fireplace worked on tha taxis with him.and dont call me a pleb you disrespectful b**tard

Then why say he told you about me, pleb?

Well said, whups, nasty coward when he doesn't get his own way.

nasty coward when he does not get his own way,wow,you really are two faced walshy.most posters on here whether members of the gang ,nasty uns or just them lot, would side with that comment being a truly deserving description of you walshy.

your name was never mentioned . it was 1stroke .

"Have a guess where the catches of in-shore fishermen go to. ?

It isn't the UK."

And how is this relevant

Warning anyone clicking the link below will see a photo of a homeless person sleeping rough at the top of town. This image seems to have upset some people (strangely only the people who denied they existed, but that's another story) so I have put it in 'link' form.
The same link form I used above for some newspapers headlines reporting on the homeless of Wigan.
They also had photos showing homeless people but for some reason they didn't seem to cause the same offence.

My thoughts are it would take about 30 seconds to stage this image

How long did it take you to stage yours, Spangled?

Why the hell would someone want to 'stage this image'?

Is that your best?

Looks like he did, Chatty. When he took the photos.
He must think everybody is the same as him.

Seems like he is speaking with experience.
Probably took 10 seconds to stage his.

Chatty ,s n b .

The lad I was with can verify nothing was staged, I have a shot of another one on Wallgate but he was sat up and begging so haven't posted in case he was a 'fake homeless' as you call them.
I would stand up in any court of law in the land and swear it isn't faked as well as on my childrens lives.

Why didn't you take him home for a warm and a good feed?

Why don't you?

I wasn't there. But do carry on taking photos instead of helping. Very caring.

Can't say fairer than that, Chatty.

You can't debate with someone like spangled.
The person is totally blinkered and oblivious to whats going on. He just spouts his vile fake propoganda on here

I left him some money.
The fact I acknowledge they exist is a bit further down the road than some on here!

Salve your conscience did it that donation when you went and got in your warm bed while he/she was left with a few quid in the cold doorway.

No it didn't, and that isn't the point as you well know.
I took some photos to prove beyond doubt homless people are sleeping in shop doorways at night.
I wouldn't have taken any photos if someone on here hadn't posted some of empty doorways to try and somehow show they aren't.

What would you have done, Terence?

I understand your point exactly, Chatty, point scoring with photos. Charitable indeed, I suspect the point scoring on here being of an higher priority though.

I hope he/she likes their plight being shown all over the place just for your gratification.

I'll ask you again.

Just out of curiosity.

What would you have done, Terence?
Something. Or, nothing?

Deary me.
Would you rather I delete them and pretend I hadn't seen them.
I will if you want, it obviously bothers you more that I have evidence of homelessness in the town centre than any concern for said homeless!

On your 'points scoring' jibe, I have noticed you're having a bit of a 'mare' on here at the moment.

I don't give a monkeys about having a 'mare' on here it's swings and roundabouts and means nothing in the main really.

Leave it on and show the world how low some people will go to get a point across. Me I would hang my head in shame after such a stunt, still you left him/her some money, how big of you.

"I don't give a monkeys.."
You brought points scoring up not me?

how low some people will go?

There's nothing as low as denying they exist.
I've taken a photo not urinated on someone.

Think it's you peeing in the wind on this one Tez.

I'm not the one going out of my way to find homeless people in town to take photos of them then walking away all smug because you have got the evidence and leaving a few quid. What was you thinking when snapping the poor bugger? You certainly didn't give a toss about him/her. You had probably been wetting yourself all day with the thought of getting your Big Reveal on WW. So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal, but this photographing of the homeless for your own ego is disgusting. There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action.

I'm not the one going out of my way to..
Go on remind us all how far out of my way I went?

".walking away all smug.."
I didn't realise you was there at the time checking my demeanor.

"..leaving a few quid.."
YOU asked ME what I had done for the guy, I didn't proffer that information!


"So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal",
What's yesterdays story got to do with it, must still be a bit raw for you to bring it up again!

"There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action."
I don't have to justify anything to anyone, least of all you!

Your feigned indignation would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassing!

I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards!

@ Chatty
Well typed.
You are one intelligent guy
If I ever need anyone to represent me, you have the job

Top top post Chatty .

Superbly constructed and not least oozing eloquence .

You have him up the proverbial creek without a paddle .

If he had a brain he would throw in the towel .

Well said s n b .

I don't know about that S&B, grimshaw, but when I have seen something with my own eyes so know for a fact it's 100% true, and then have someone telling me I haven't and it's not (for whatever reason in this case I haven't a clue) I would always stand my ground like anybody else would.

Still making friends and influencing people I see Terry?




What a not-reet!




Are you sure it's not those voices in your head?

Star d .

Beltin post chatty, blitzed him AGAIN

Nothing you did helped the person on the street least of all taking a photo of the poor sod. Then to post it on WW for your own gratification and point score is beneath contempt. like I said salve your concision by handing out a few quid and posting your excuse on here. I'm sorry the truth hurt you so much but there you go. There was no need for you to take that photo except to do what you have done. Why didn't you take him home for a warm meal and shelter? Because you don't really care that is the truth, you needed to prove to a few on WW that people sleep rough in town and that was your motive nothing more. Give yourself a big pat on the back.

I have to say as a regular, passing through the town centre almost every night, I have never seen anyone in that or any other location.
Where there anymore in the town centre or just this lone 'sleeper'?
presumably if there were, you would have photographed them also.
And as you know I'm in the town centre a lot at night,
I'll keep an eye out for him

Tell him him he's famous, ZS, courtesy of very well meaning Samaritan who stopped to snap him in his happy abode.

"I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards"

Absolutely

I wonder who the guy was reflected in the shop window?

Posted by: chatty (6866) View chatty's page5,000+ Report abuse
I'm not the one going out of my way to..
Go on remind us all how far out of my way I went?

You stopped to take a snap that's far enough.

".walking away all smug.."
I didn't realise you was there at the time checking my demeanor.

Your action is enough to warrant that comment.

"..leaving a few quid.."
YOU asked ME what I had done for the guy, I didn't proffer that information!

I asked why didn't you take him home for a warm and feed you replied Why don't you? and later I left him money.

"So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal",
What's yesterdays story got to do with it, must still be a bit raw for you to bring it up again!

You stated you had notice I was having a 'Mare' on here.

"There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action."
I don't have to justify anything to anyone, least of all you!

There is no justification for this!


Your feigned indignation would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassing!

Your feigned concern for the homeless isn't embarrassing is it? 'I'll take a photo of this poor sod sleeping rough'that's real concern.

I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards!

Apparently he is.


Your main concern was to post that photo on WW and you know it and it's wrong.

Deary me lads you need to let it go it's over, you're just heaping more embarrassment on yourselves, the knockout blow came yesterday, no point you climbing off the canvas today and start flailing your arms about George Formby like.

I wonder who the guy was reflected in the shop window?
I told you yesterday Tony I took the photo, so I'll let you figure it out.

What are you twittering on about, 'knockout blow'
Good grief, triumphalism were there is none

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3556) [2,500+] Report abuse

"I have to say as a regular, passing through the town centre almost every night,"

Do you work at macdonalds

I think the knockout blow was when some scumbag stopped to take a photo of a man/woman sleeping rough to post on WW and eased his conscience with a bit of cash.

Still I can walk away from this feeling good for pointing out the disrespectful act whereas you know what you did was nothing more than an act of getting one over to prove a point.

I really think you should remove that photo for the sake of the person on the floor, that is if you really have any feelings.

Is that like the scumbag on here who was laughing at someone who had a breakdown?

No. The one who took a photo of a poor sod sleeping rough to make a point.

Why MacDonalds?
not that it's relevant why I pass through the town centre, clearly looking to disparage me personally

What about spangles who also went to take a photo of a "poor sod sleeping rough" but there was no one there!
Anything to say about that, Terence?

Or the scumbag on here who came out with nasty personal comments when he/she first came on here?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3557) [2,500+] Report abuse

"Why MacDonalds? "

Ok. Iceland?

What about spangles who also went to take a photo a "poor sod sleeping rough" but there was no one there!
Anything to say about that, Terence?

I took pics of empty shop doorways.
Because I knew in advance they would be empty

Way off but still irrelevent

Yes I have a lot to say...there was no one there you fool.

I think the knockout blow when some scumbag stopped to take a photo of a man/woman sleeping..

More feigned indignation.
I posted links to newspaper reports of the growing homeless crisis in Wigan early on in this thread which contained photos of people sleeping rough...yet not a peep out of you!

osted by: TerryW (2220)1,000+ Report abuse

Yes I have a lot to say...there was no one there you fool

crybaby is getting nasty AGAIN

But I would like to think he would have had the dignity not to take snaps if there had been someone there.

He wouldn't have taken any had there been someone there.
If so, he would have been hoisted by his own petard so to speak

Your very good at pointing out the obvious, and I think he would have fathomed that out.

y: TerryW (2224)1,000+ Report abuse

But I would like to think he would have had the dignity not to take snaps

You didn't have any dignity when you "first" came on here.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles
It's easy if you want to try to prove me wrong.
Go into the town centre after 11:30pm with your phone and photograph them.
Make sure your connected(meta data to corroborate the time etc)

Replied: 3rd Oct 2019 at 13:15

And Terry that's exactly what I did!
If offended take it up with your mate Spangler!

Well that says it all, good job he didn't tell jump off the parish church isn't it.


Take the photo off.

Leave it on and show the world how low some people will go..

You seemed to have changed your tune from yesterday.
Anyhow to save you anymore feigned indignation I have put it in link form with a warning.

Now if you could asked your mate Spangles to do the same with his empty shop doorways photos, because misleading people into thinking there are no homeless people sleeping rough in the town centre offends me!

Empty shop are offending anyone. Yes I did change my mind for the sake of the person and believe me there was nothing feigned, you should have had more sense than to do that, what was you thinking you knew it was wrong.

for the sake of the person..
What sake?
The person's unidentifiable, You've already made clear you don't know if it's an he or she!
It's just more feigned indignation from you Tez!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3560)

"I took pics of empty shop doorways.
Because I knew in advance they would be empty"

Lend me that crystal ball
Whats the numbers for this weeks euromillions?