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UFO's : Disclosure Continues

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

So now in the face of overwhelming evidence the governments of the world have been hiding, they are now finally admitting that Unexplained Aerial Phenomena exists (UFO's) after decades of saying that folk like me are crackpots, after we have reported seeing UFO's

https://edition.cnn.com/take-interest-in-ufo-sightings

They have known about them for over 70yrs

Started: 14th Aug 2020 at 11:37

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

Tommy, they have walked among us for several thousand of years, They built the Pyramids, mapped out the World and designed the iphone, Almost anything you can mention that has never been improved like,
the safety pin, the bic pen, the fender guitar and wiper blades have all been designed by ' THEM', If they see a good reason to cure this covid-19, they will but, I don't think they will because, its made us all ( well 99%) sit up and take notice,

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 12:28
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Posted by: FAT MICK (inactive)

Homeless Kevin was telling me that they built the Pyramids, Built that wall in China and did some work with the Incas in South America, and they invented drink similar the Carlsberg Special

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 12:36

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Carlsberg Spesh, an Alkys nectar

Tom :

"If they see a good reason to cure this covid-19, they will but, I don't think they will because, its made us all ( well 99%) sit up and take notice"

Or they gave it us in the first place .....

I think it is obvious that the Egyptian Pyramids and the Inca pyramids, must have had some outside alien help, to build those and other structures

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 13:17

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

I think UFO's are very real but not alien related.

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 16:57

Posted by: broady (inactive)

It’s not the UFO’s that worry me it’s those bloody pink elephants.

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 17:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

TerryW

Doo yoo subscribe to the time travel theories, humans from the future, travelling back in time ?

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 17:28

Posted by: tonker (27985) 
Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

No I don't TTS. I do believe the UFO's seen are all man made objects such as reconnaissance objects from other countries. Even when military pilots get visuals they are blimps on upgraded radar systems that would not have picked them up before. But aliens, no.

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 17:44

Posted by: Domin0 (626)

No doubt there are millions of planets with intelligent life living on them, but we will never see any of them.

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 17:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

TerryW

Well I would like you to explain to me how that the thing I saw in 1977 was a man made object

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 17:57

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

How can I explain if I didn't see it. Did you see the occupants of the "thing"? If not why do you assume it was from another planet with aliens aboard?

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:12

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

And the thing I saw in 1981, came down on Ashton Heath, Not only me but, dozens saw it, It did not land just hovered, noiseless for a few seconds then shot back up to space faster than any rocket could have done, Also without sound,

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:19

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

When you think about it, it could be possible to travel faster than the speed of light. That's what they might be doing, them men. Atoms that can be in two places at the same time and particles that can interact instantly with each other.and all that lot. It's all space-age stuff.
Them moonmen might be able to be here and there at the same time using quantum superpositioning !

Think of something closer to home. A welding mask that's clear and you can see through it.
Strike an arc with your wire and that clear mask turns dark. You might think that's nothing special, but it happens faster than the speed of light.
That means, the particles in the glass have registered the strike, overtaken the light from the strike and changed colour before the light arrives.
That's going back in time, then going faster than time, one after the other!

That might have been discovered by the speed of light Spaniard, but I don't really know!

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

TerryW

I don't know where it came from, and it might not have been alien, it might have been from the future, but I know it did not come from the here and now, or should I say then, because it was a few years ago, and it wasn't as dramatic has Tom's encounter ...

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:31

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Prototypes of all kinds have been tested out for many years all over the world especially during the cold war and had public reactions like these.

Drones over the rabbit rocks taking videos of the area, who'd a thowt that when we was childer and what would have run home saying we had seen?

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:46

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

I was invited to Ashton police station, failure to show would would mean a summons to attend, two ' gentlemen' from the home office explained to me, Never tell anyone of what you saw, It was a military top secret machine , We have interviewed the others involved and if this story gets about, we will come looking,
sign here to show you understand,

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:47

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 18:58

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Tonker

Aye

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 19:06

Posted by: thaknows (589)

I saw summat hovering over priory road day centre about 1981 3 figures visible at a window it shot off as soon as we looked at it, I was only 12, fricknin

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 19:42

Posted by: firefox (3239)

I saw a man giving birth on the rabbit rocks when I was about 12. The baby looked alien from what I saw.

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 19:52

Posted by: Axcroft (237)

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Posted by: tonker (27985) 

"They move amongst us"!

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 20:19

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

I was warned by the ' 2 home office gentlemen' that when ever I told the story, others would tecthepiss, So nothing changes,

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 20:35

Posted by: Stardelta (11948)

T2S?

Have you ever heard the story of John Titor?

I can remember reading about him at the time, some 20 years ago. Claimed he was a time traveller from the future and his time machine was built into a 1967 Chevrolet. He came back from the future to find an old IBM computer and went on to save the world.

John Titor

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 21:10

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

I bet he didn't have a Jaunting Belt, like mine!

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 21:20

Posted by: firefox (3239)

He didn't have a jaunty hat either.

Proof of moonmen

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Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

more evidence of
notreets

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 22:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Ok piss takers .....

But yoo are taking the piss out of the most powerful military force on this Earth

https://www./pentagon-launch-task-force-investigate-ufo-sightings

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 22:44

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

Tommy, I'm not a piss taker but, I'm rolling with the flow, you either know or you don't, I was told never to tell but, I can't, I've seen and want to share, So when I've told the story and walk in a room/cabin the day after and all is quiet as i walk in, then as i walk out, the giggles, laughter and jokes break out, I know they think I'm mad or telling a tale, Its they who have not seen who laugh and teckpiss, We are a small minority, we know what we have seen,
have we been selected or just lucky ?

Replied: 14th Aug 2020 at 22:57

Posted by: firefox (3239)

The Queen is a lizard too

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 11:26

Posted by: Brasstoff (477)

Ah but, very posh LIZard, she wears a crown.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 11:34
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

firefox : said

"The Queen is a lizard too"

So David Icke believes

In my time I have done a lot of research into the UFO phenomenon, I have read loads of books and watched loads of video's, and for me over 90% of all the supposed UFO stuff is rubbish, with just the same tales being repeated over and over again, such as the Roswell thing.

But there are some compelling accounts of UFO encounters, by people who should know what they are on about .....

If yoo are at all interested in the subject, try and watch two videos about it, and I have posted this before, but watch "Out Of The Bloo" and "Unacknowledged"

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 11:39
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Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Roswell? The Russians sent those flying disk things over from Alaska with child aviators on board. The Russians after the war made big leaps with the German technology they had picked up from the likes of Walter and Reimar Horten who developed flying disk machines, the pilot "alien" kids also had the Nazi treatment and had been surgically or biologically altered so they would have big heads and eyes, again through the experiments by the one and only Josef Mengele. Mind you the yanks were doing the same thing and perfected it more and came up with the F 117 stealth attack aircraft years later that also could evade radar detection like these flying discs. The Roswell incident was intended to be a warning to the Truman administration that they, the Soviets, could also create a UFO hoax just like the one of 1938 and were just as well informed about the technology they both had stolen. Just think if the Russians had nabbed Von Braun first, them yanks would have been hopping mad!

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 20:50

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

It is an absolute certainty that there is extra terrestrial life out there.
Our own galaxy, The Milky Way is approximately 200, 000 light years across, and contains up tp 400 billion stars and planets.
There are billions of galaxies out there, so the chances of a sun having a planet rotating around it in the ‘habitable’ zone is very realistic.
The only thing is that the nearest habitable planet will be so far away that to get here
would be an immense undertaking.
Any spacecraft, even if it had technology that could give speeds approaching the speed of light, would take many years to get here.
The mothercraft would need to be huge to support a large crew and would need to be to be able to grow its own food.
The Universe is immense!!!!!!!!!!!
They are not going to get here in a piddling little flying saucer doings.

The nearest stars to earth are Alpha Centauri A, Alpha Centauri B and Proxima Centauri, which are 4,3 light years away.

Astronomers announced in August 2016 that they had detected an Earth-size planet orbiting Proxima Centauri.
The new found world, known as Proxima B, is about 1.3 times more massive than Earth, and it is probable that the exoplanet is a rocky world.
The planet is also in the star's habitable zone, that just-right range of distances where liquid water can exist.
Proxima B lies just 4.7 million miles (7.5 million kilometers) from its host star and completes one orbit every 11.2 Earth-days.
As a result, it's likely that the exoplanet is tidally locked, meaning it always shows the same face to its host star, just as the moon shows only one face (the near side) to Earth.

A light year is a measure of distance, the distance it takes for light to travel in a year.
Light travels at 186,000 miles per second.
You cannot comprehend the distance to Proxima B.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 21:33

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

TerryW

I am sick of hearing about Roswell, because every documentary tells the story of Roswell, what interests me is the testimony of servicemen who have witnessed strange happenings on the bases where they served, and the airmen who have witnessed strange and unexplainable things.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 21:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

raymyjamie

The distances from ourselves to our nearest neighbouring stars is almost beyond comprehension, and I believe that travel between the stars in the realm of present day understanding and technology is impossible, only in the future, when new scientific discoveries have been made about the universe, will such a thing become if ever be possible.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 21:58

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Servicemen drink a lot.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 21:59

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

My mate Tommy once saw a UFO, in the desert, near Las Vegas. He took a picture of it and got it published in UFO Magazine.
Anyroadup, the Men in Black are still hounding him to this day. "They're after t'negative, tha'sees"!

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 22:01

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

TTS, totally agree with your comments at 21-58.

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 22:03

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

To put it in some understandable context, Our World ( earth ) is a grain of sand in the Sahara desert, Anyone believing we are the only grain with life in it, Is very naive,
And in the other scope, a micro organism we cannot even see because its too small to even imagine, Its whole life-form lives in a planet the size of a pin head, has brought our world, ( Earth ) on its knees,
Mind boggling,

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 22:28

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Good stuff that Mester Tomp

Replied: 15th Aug 2020 at 22:34

Posted by: tonker (27985) 


"They're after t'negative"!

Replied: 23rd Mar 2021 at 00:26
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Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Replied: 23rd Mar 2021 at 00:45

Posted by: gasmon (115)

There are strange goings on in a quaint Northern town
Which the folk there are trying to keep quiet
It'd cause a sensation but they're playing it down
For they're frightened of starting a riot

'Cause they've pit men with arms that are thirty feet long
And their heads are as smooth as boiled eggs
The man who sells pies has got three great hig eyes
And the rugby league hooker is green with six legs

For the Martians have landed in Wigan
And they're wearing flat caps on their domes
And they've paid all their subs to the working men's clubs
'Cause Wigan reminds them of home

Now the Martians had lost all their bearings one night
'Cause the compass had gone up the spout
As they landed on t'slag heap the captain said, 'Right
We're home lads, so lets' all pile out'

Well they soon realised that they'd made a mistake
So some digs for the night they all hooked
Where they'd trotters and hotpot and fresh Eccles cake
And when they tasted black puddings, those Martians were hook

For the Martians have landed in Wigan
And they're wearing flat caps on their domes
And they've paid all their subs to the working men's clubs
'Cause Wigan reminds them of home

Now the Martians play bingo and speak local lingo
Like, 'Sithee,' and 'Ey up owd flower'
From the pier every day you can go to Milky Way
Or a UFO trip round Blackpool Tower

So next time you're passing through Wigan, look out
And remember the things I have said
Beware of the ones who have clogs on their feet
And aerials stuck out the tops of their heads

For the Martians have landed in Wigan
And they're wearing flat caps on their domes
And they've paid all their subs to the working men's clubs
'Cause Wigan reminds them of home.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2021 at 18:41

Posted by: sonlyme (3358)

Mike Harding.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2021 at 19:16

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

I wonder what they would think of "some people" on here.

Replied: 25th Mar 2021 at 10:38

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Basil

I wonder wot the aliens would make of yoo

Replied: 25th Mar 2021 at 13:37

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

They would say, "what a smashing chap that basil brush is"

Replied: 25th Mar 2021 at 14:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

But yoo are not a chap, yoo are a fox

Replied: 25th Mar 2021 at 14:17

Posted by: mollie m (7179) 

Gasmon, that was terrific! Here's my effort:

A Close Encounter of the Weird Kind

It were’t fancy dress ball at the local church hall
And we’d gone as Bonnie and Clyde;
There were all sorts there, ‘twas a brilliant affair
And we laffed so much that we cried.

There were pirates and elves, and we enjoyed ourselves
And a bloke went as Billie the Kid
The great big white bunny that looked really funny
As indeed all the rest of us did.

Then about half past nine I lit a Woodbine
And a peculiar thing did occur;
The doors opened wide and I could’ve died,
There were an alien standing right there!

He’d only one eye at the back of his head
So I walked around’t back of him calm;
I looked in his eye and it looked a bit sly
But I didn’t think he would do harm.

His eye was quite red and so to him I said,
“Tha’s getten some cowd in thi’ eye
Tha’ needs a few drops, tha’ con ger’em from’t shops,”
And then from his bum came a sigh.

“That’s a great fancy dress, neh just let me guess,
Is it Billy Malone from down’t road?”
Then came hopping by was owd Jimmy McFly
Dressed up as a big ugly toad.

The stranger said nowt so I start to shout
Thinking he mit be deef as a post.
Then I noticed three arms an’e’d eyes in his palms
Then hovering by went a ghost.

“Tha’ favvers a treat, wor’ast done at thi’ feet?
Ee lad, that there eye looks so sore.”
His feet were quite round an’a said “I’ll be bound
Tha’s an eye on the end of each toe!”

He said “nik-a-nak,” I were taken aback
As the sound had come from his rear end
He said “nik-nak-noo” so I said “How do?”
And then from his waist he did bend.

When he talked through his bum it made me feel glum
As he nik-nakked and noo’d all o’er’t place.
He were trying to speak bur’it left me all weak
An’a said “Wor’ast tha’ done at thi’ face?”

“Tha’s getten no nose so I have to suppose
That ya breathe through yer backside and burp.
Wor’else can you do, can ya sing through it too?
I can see yer a bit of a twerp!”

He nik-nakked and noo’d an’a thowt it were rude
When wouldn’t speyk up to me proper
I said to him “Si’ thi’, who’s come in here wi’ thi?
If tha’ dussen’t speyk reet tha'ra cropper!”

He started to twiddle wi’ knobs on his chest
Then out of his bum came a swish.
“MY NAME IS REDER TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER
OR ANYONE WHO CAN SPEAK ENGLISH!”

Jimmy Wriggle called out who had come as a scout
And he laughed as he swigged at his ale.
“That’s not Malone, he’s come as a phone,”
And at that I went visibly pale.

Turning back to the stranger I suddenly saw
His ears – a peculiar shape
They were’t size of a cauli and he sez, “Now Mollie,
Your mouth has gone wide and agape!”

“It’s hardly surprising neh is it owd lad.
I can see that yer nor’a full shillin’.
Ya talk through yer arse, it’s a bit of a farce,
At the circus ya’d mek a great killin!”

Whilst stood at the bar I asked if he’d come far,
He looked sad as he stared me in’t face.
“I thowt it were swanky in this part o’ Lanky
Bur’ave getten’t go wom up in space.

“Wiv getten yer language all wrong lickle lass,
When I gets back wom they’ll all know.
And then a bit later we’ll have’t alter’t data,
Ickle come as a bit of a blow!

“Wiv bin studying English for several years
And because I could speyk it the best,
They sent me for’t day so I cawn’t stay for’t play
Ickle put them daft buggers to’t test.

“They’ll have to start learning all o’er again
And learn all yer vowels from scratch.
They’ll send me agen in a year, mebbe ten
But from a distance all I’ll do is watch.

“They’ll study it close an’ I’ll go on a course
To make sure tharra speyk proper weel.
Then without a sound I’ll come down on the ground
Bur'a might be in London or Deal!

“The first place I went was a grove down in Hove
And they couldn’t mek out worra said.
I got chased by a bobby so I run up a lobby.
I were lucky I didn’t end up dead!”

Sadly he turned as he started to leave
Then he asked me if I had a sprocket.
“Am sorry owd lad, neh tha’s made me feel bad.
Wot’s it for, does it go in thi’ rocket?”

“It dun’t matter, sez he, but we’ll just wait and see
Burra need just a cupful o’ gin.
It’s just a renewal for me tank full o’ fuel.”
Then his bum gave me such a wide grin.

It were just after that, that he finally left
And we waved him goodbye from the ground.
It made us feel warm that he’d meant us no harm
But was friendly and clever and sound.

We never forgot him that alien from space
And we told folk that he’d come from Mars
But they were agog and thought we’d lost a cog
When we said thar’e’d talked through his arse!

© Mollie M
30.06.05

Replied: 27th Mar 2021 at 05:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

That is brilliant that Mollie

Replied: 27th Mar 2021 at 12:23

Posted by: mollie m (7179) 

Thanks, Tommy.

On a more serious note.

My thoughts on this are that it was aliens who came here thousands of years ago, but from where?

The Pyramids. They were erected in the desert where there was no water and probably little or no vegetation, yet we're to believe that those huge stone blocks were transported by slaves rolling them over vast distances on cut down trees in blistering heat and which would have taken hundreds of years to build. Even by our own technology and state of the art building machinery, it would be a massive construction project, even for just one single pyramid.

Time Travel. It's an interesting concept but, even if time travel were to be discovered in our distant future, why would our ascendants go back in time to build pyramids etc, thereby creating their own history?

Look at the difference between the Greek and Roman empires and their incredible architecture, and the Pyramids of Egypt, and we're talking around 3-4 thousand years ago, and compare them with today's technology. To re-create such structures of the same quality would take many years, vast amounts of labour, materials and money.

Methusalah, who died at age 969? Well, we know that even with today's medical advancement that isn't possible, but it would be if Methusalah was an alien and lived many light years away from Earth and our own Galaxy, the Milky Way, which Earth is 26,000 light years from the centre of, and which is just a tiny speck in the Universe. The uneducated people who saw these beings would see them perhaps every six or 12 months, during which time, time would pass on Earth hundreds of years, and will have heard of in folklore of this man (and others) who lived to a great age and the stories were passed down in tales, and eventually in writings as people evolved. Read about Ezekial who describes a fiery chariot coming from a certain direction to Earth which had wheels within wheels! These are sightings from people whose education was limited and could only recite what they saw. They had no way of theorising, but said what they saw, and drew what they'd seen in cave drawings, such as men in what appear to be space suits. They didn't have the capacity to make up something of which they'd had no prior knowledge or seen.

It's all speculation and theory, but there are a great many findings - read about the Nazca Plains - which aren't proof of alien intervention but, just a mere 10,000 years ago humans were still running around in loin clothes then suddenly, whoosh! They began to evolve into sentient beings and began to think, act and communicate with each other and the development of language, in the blink of an eye which, in the vastness of time itself, was just a few years.

So, what am I saying? I think aliens played a part in creating humans from creatures that were already indigenous to this planet which had a structure formed, perhaps similar to their own in order to, perhaps, create a new environment for their own kind some time in the future which they could colonise but, maybe it didn't work out too well in their experiment, or perhaps we haven't yet reached the required level of enlightenment which they expected because we're still in the caveman state, to their way of thinking. So, perhaps they pop back every now and again to see how things are progressing and every once in a while they give the more intelligent of us a bit of a nudge in technology like harnessing electricity, radio waves, TV, computers, but we focus on manufacturing bigger and better ways of causing mass destruction, and all the other "discoveries" that have been made over a mere 150 years which has taken us 10,000 years to achieve. Put the skeleton of a man next to the skeleton of a gorilla and, apart from a bonier skull, there's little difference. Put a new-born gorilla against a new-born human baby, and there's no visible difference. Genetic engineering?

I know. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. These are just my own personal thoughts on this fascinating subject, and I don't believe for one moment that every person in the world who says they've seen UFOs and aliens are cranks. Some may well have seen experimental craft that fly under the radar; but there are too many well-documented sightings to be swept under the carpet, and too many Top Secret reports that have been redacted by the governments of the world.

Finally, it would be incredibly pompous of us to believe that we are the only "intelligent" life forms in the Universe, and I use the word "intelligent" loosely. If I am right, and it can neither be proved nor disproved, that alien intervention created us, then their occasional trips might take them just a few days, but in Earthly terms hundreds of years will have passed and we have barely progressed in a measly 10,000 years, and are still in a state of sub-human evolution. Evolution and progression has nothing to do with technology and what we can achieve. It goes much deeper than that.

So, outer space, or a fourth dimension? 'Tis a mystery.

Replied: 28th Mar 2021 at 05:53

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Well Mollie, that just about sums up the entire UFO debate, there is obviously something going on, and the powers that be, don't want us to know about it

Replied: 28th Mar 2021 at 20:39
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Posted by: jathbee (11463)

The aliens have certainly managed to elude concrete proof of the existence for a very long time. They make walk amongst us though, in the guise of humans of course. There are many who certainly behave like aliens, well not like most of humanity anyway.

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Posted by: tonker (27985) 

Replied: 31st Mar 2021 at 10:36

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Went out in a cardigan, from Reading Room Pub in Haydock, and never came back









A cawn't say I blame her

Replied: 31st Mar 2021 at 11:47

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

"Spectrum is Green"!

Replied: 31st Mar 2021 at 13:48

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Aye

Replied: 31st Mar 2021 at 14:25

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

I wish they would come down and take you, and "some people" back with them.

Replied: 1st Apr 2021 at 13:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Fank yoo

Replied: 1st Apr 2021 at 14:24

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6558) 

Hi there tts ;
I would just like to tell you that i have believed in UFOs for most of my adulthood and i quantify this by asking all the sceptics to just take a minute and ask yourselves in Earth's life span of around 4 billion years just explain to me how in only the last one hundred years or so MAN has gone from just riding along on horses and the like to ,,
Plane flight ,Cars, rocket's to the moon , then you look at the vast array of technological inventions from televisions/mobile phones / computers/ it just goes on,on,on and as i say all in the last 100 yrs i do not believe for one moment that humans are born with such vast intelligence ,to pyt it simply they have been assisted /helped what-ever you want to call it but for me its fact ,so your not a fool TTS SO stay safe G.B.

Replied: 1st Apr 2021 at 15:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Thank you very much Golden Bear

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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

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Posted by: Billinge Biker (2384) 

Think and say what tha wants. There's NO WAY Mon stepped on' t moon in 1969.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 17:50

Posted by: momac (12438) 

I'm with you there BB..I've never believed it.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 17:57

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

"If you believe they put a man on the moon.
A man on the moon?
If you believe there's nothing up their sleeve,
then nothing is cool" !

R.E.M.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 22:28

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

If they had not landed on the moon, then don't yoo think that first the Soviet Yoonion, and then and now Russia, would have sent probes too the moon, to proove that the Americans did not land there

Replied: 8th Apr 2021 at 14:01

Posted by: bentlegs (5318)

Loved it Mollie, Who,s a clever girl?.

Replied: 9th Apr 2021 at 11:22

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

There you go tommy

link

Replied: 13th Apr 2021 at 13:53

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

It has been going on for over seven decades, even longer if you look at some of the historical stuff.

Replied: 13th Apr 2021 at 18:08

Posted by: jathbee (11463)

And the debate will go on and on. But we will all dee in ignorance, that's for sure.

Replied: 14th Apr 2021 at 08:19

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

Moonmen!

Replied: 14th Apr 2021 at 10:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

I don't think they are from't moon Tonker.

Replied: 14th Apr 2021 at 13:38

Posted by: jathbee (11463)

No, not from the moon.
From LA LA land

Replied: 15th Apr 2021 at 09:18

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Replied: 19th May 2021 at 21:30

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

"U.S. intelligence agencies are expected to deliver a report on “unidentified aerial phenomena” to Congress next month, sparking renewed interest and speculation into how the government has handled sightings of mysterious flying objects — and if there's any worldly explanation for them"

https://www.nbcnews.com/ufos-are-make-way-us-senate-know

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 11:32

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Another one here for your lot

nutters

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 12:51
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Thank you

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 15:20

Posted by: peebee (731) 

Of course there is the other side of the coin, in a word GOD. Is there such an entity or were we always aliens that came from another universe and if so were they created by a God of sorts or did they evolve from the 'slime'. People say there is no concrete evidence of alien life forms, but there again that goes for God too.
Are we the only planet in the cosmos that God decided to populate, that's something religious people need to think about very long and hard.

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 17:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

peebee

Maybe god only knows

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 17:10

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

They, that being the governments are finally 'disclosing' that (UAP) Unexplained Arial Phenomena does exist, and the information is being drip fed to the public, in such a way as to make it seem like normal.

I mean when you have got a former President of the United States, saying that there are things flying about, and the most powerful military in the world doesn't know what they are, then that confirms that UFOs exist, the question is, does the United Stated military actually know what they are, but they won't say ?

Replied: 20th May 2021 at 17:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)
Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Replied: 24th May 2021 at 19:09

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

for crying out loud, I wished they'd come and take you away.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 11:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Funny yoo have mentioned this now Basil, because there has been a thing on the television about them, because the disclosure thing from the American Military, about what they know about UAP's (Unexplained Aerial Phenomena) is due to be published 'imminently'

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 11:18

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Doo yoo want to believe Basil

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 11:19

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

no, I think it's like what comes out of "some peoples" mouth.......bullpoo.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 11:31

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

That is an awful lot of bullpoo Basil

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 12:39

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

I've never seen it, but I believe there's a wild cat living in the forest behind my house.
In fact, I have concrete evidence!

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 18:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Try stroking it, and it will become very apparent if it is a wildcat

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 19:22

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7100)

That is an awful lot of bullpoo Basil

it certainly is Tommy and I'm only talking about "some people" on here.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 19:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

"NASA is getting serious about UFOs"

https://cnn.com/2021/06/04/tech/ufos-nasa-study

Replied: 6th Jun 2021 at 10:14

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Replied: 6th Jun 2021 at 13:19

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Tonight at 9.00pm on BBC2 Brian Cox asks "are we alone"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000wnk3

Replied: 6th Jun 2021 at 13:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)
Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Tic Tac UFO spotted over England.

LINK

Invasion of the Tic Tacs

Replied: 20th Jun 2021 at 13:15

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Replied: 20th Jun 2021 at 13:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Pentagon UFO report: Here's what we know

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57559179


Replied: 23rd Jun 2021 at 19:41

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

"just a cardigan"!

Replied: 23rd Jun 2021 at 20:49

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

The United States Military have released the long awaited report on UAP (Unexplained Aerial Phenomena) or what are commonly known as UFOs

REPORT

They have acknowledged that they exist, so they have at last 'disclosed' that they do exist, but they won't say what they are, so the next thing is to pressure the governments of the world to 'disclose' what they know about UFOs, because it is not just the Unites States of Uncle Sam who attract visitors from 'sumweer else' as we would say in Wigan.

Russia, China and us here in the United Kingdom, and lots of other countries around the world are visited by UFOs

So Tom and that Tonker, may take the pee out of that gentlemen from Haydock, but beware your two, because he probably knows a hell of a lot more about what goes on in this world than you two do

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57619755

Replied: 26th Jun 2021 at 08:49
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Replied: 14th Jun 2022 at 17:29

Posted by: peter israel (2131) 

Although i do believe!! most UFO sighting happens at kicking out time

Replied: 14th Jun 2022 at 21:18

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 19:14

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

TTS, I'm not tekintpiss out of anyone, I am a believer because I saw for myself in 1982 , I'm not telling t tale all over again but, I know they are here and have been for donkeys,

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 21:50

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Well when NASA starts to be involved, then folk should take notice

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 22:07

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

if you remember, the Home office interviewed myself and that convinced me, they ( the gov't) knew what was going on,,,

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 22:30

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Yes, well I saw one in Red Rock.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 22:45

Posted by: Pewfall (530) 

I saw something, whilst sat stationary in driver's seat at a red traffic light close to Red Rock. This 'thing' passed very close to my car, was clearly visible and i could describe characteristics here - but i will never do as folk take the p. No idea what it was ?

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 23:43

Posted by: whups (13300) 

you probably stepped off it 1stroke .

Replied: 22nd Oct 2022 at 23:47

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2749)

I used to thing one stroke was stu,pid now I don't think he,s that clever

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 01:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

My point is that it is NASA who are getting in involved now, not some crackpot UFO group, who think that everything in the sky is a UFO and the American military have released video's of UFO's and they have said that they don't know what they are.

Handsomeminer

I once went to a UFO thing at Louis Tussauds in Blackpool, and the guy running it, a so called UFO expert, was explaining where an artifact on display had come from, it was a black men's shoo, I would say no older than being from the 1980's.
He said that it has been found in a coal mine in England, and had been entombed there in the coal for million's of years.

I didn't believe him

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 08:42

Posted by: Owd Codger (3150)

I have never believed that Earth is the only planet in the Universe that has some form of Alien life.

We can only hope that if there is and decide to come to visit Earth, they are friendly Aliens!

Otherwise?

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 10:20

Posted by: tonker (27985) 

They’ve been to t’Reading Room. Wouldn’t let ‘em in.
Members only, reet!

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 10:48

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Tonker is on about the Haydock Reading Room, and someone who after being in there, was abducted by a UFO and never seen again

Tom, tells the tale about how one night on Ashton Heath, he saw a UFO which was on the ground, and then it shot up into the sky, and I presume he reported it, and consequently he says he was visited by the 'Men in Black' who told him to keep stum about it.

Now there are two things there.

1. Wot was Tom dooing on Ashton Heath that night, and was he up to no good

2. Tom is always jokey about the subject,,,, why ?

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 12:38

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

TTS, no I did not report it, I was doing a job for a mate and i worked until 10 pm, The mate suggested we have the last pint at the eagle and child, It was a barmy July night so se sat outside drinking the beer, thats when it came,
The police contacted me, They summoned me to have an interview with officials at the police station,
So they had to some investigations to who i was and where i lived,,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:14

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

to answer question 2, I'm jokey about most things, Its my personia, Often mistaken for being Blarsey but, underneath, I am a coiled spring and ready to unleash in the flash of an eyelid,,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:21

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Yoo can be 'snappy'

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:34

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

Oh and another thing Tommy Tee, It did't land but hovered, I'd say about 100 feet off the floor, It circled around then, shot up to the stars faster than any plane or rocket could have and within seconds was another star in the sky and,,,,,,,It never made a sound,
The guys in black, as you called them were from the home office and told me to keep quiet because its a new weapon the military are testing and, i had to sign the official secrets act form,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:38
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Oh dear Tom

I think your pals on here will be pointing out, that you have now committed an offence, under the 'Official Secrets Act' by posting what yoo saw that night on here, so amongst their other nasty things they say about yoo, they will be saying that you are a treasonous traitor

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:46

Posted by: bentlegs (5318)

Last night the man in the moon winked at wife

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 13:58

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

Oh dear Tom

I think your pals on here will be pointing out, that you have now committed an offence, under the 'Official Secrets Act' by posting what yoo saw that night on here, so amongst their other nasty things they say about yoo, they will be saying that you are a treasonous traitor

mitigating circumstances, it matters not what the Rainhill mob say, i cannot read their tripe nor wish to do so , I have been informed that, I am on higher ground and are not fit to lace my plumbing boots, Also, I could be corrected here but, is't there a ' sell by date' on classifiyed secrets ? I'm assuming 30 years is the shelf life so, I no longer am committed to silence,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 14:55

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

It is not that simple tom.

They get reviewed at 30year interval. Some are declassified, some are reclassified.

Much WW 2 material is still classified.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 15:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 15:45

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

At the last round, folk interested in the history were expecting the Rudof Hess file to be declassified. They were disappointed. The entire content was reclassified.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 15:52

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

I don't think the people in the craft are worried, I told people about it right from the start and because MOST if not all, took it with a bit of salt, It kinda got told less and less, the people in the craft never paid me a visit, They could have beamed me up and took brain samples ( expect unkind remarks from some) but they never, So I'm not worried,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 15:59

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

But Y are yoo so jokey about it, folk who that has happened too, having a pint in Ashton, and being visited by a UFO, they have found that to be a life changing incident .......

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 16:05

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

I don't think they came to see me Tommy, I think their sat nav was out of sync and the heath was a one way street they came down, I was just another human sat there enjoying the evening sky,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 16:17

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

tom,

Did you know a guy named Barton, who lived at [ EDIT]? He was manager at Levertons.

You got a good view across the heath from his front window. Alas, I guess very unlikely that he is still around to ask if he saw out.

Edit: removed someone's address.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 16:39
Last edited by ena malcup: 23rd Oct 2022 at 20:12:47

Posted by: tomplum (12560) 

No I don't know of him Ena but, he if he did not see anything he would have heard about it because, image you're in your front room and its dusk and you are thinking of putting the lights on then, All of a sudden the whole heath was lit up as bright as day like some one had flood lighted the heath for about 20/30 seconds then, back to dusk, Many would hve seen that I'm sure but, like I said earlier, there was no roar of jet engines , props or zooms, just silent motion, upwards fast as a shooting star,

Replied: 23rd Oct 2022 at 17:58

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Theeeeeerrrre heeeeeerrreeee LINK

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 22:51

Posted by: Billinge Biker (2384) 

I do believe summat is out there... but there is more in our oceans we have no idea about..

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 22:57

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

There will be even more now that those concerned have realised the potential of Marine drones, particularly their ability to loiter undetected for prolonged periods.

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 23:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

I once knew a bloke called Tommy Price from Kitt Green, a scouser by birth, and he was in the navy, serving aboard the carrier HMS Victorious, and one night he tracked an underwater object, which was travelling at 18,000mph

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 23:13
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Posted by: tonker (27985) 

Is there a Reading Room on Ashton Heath?

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 23:24

Posted by: Pewfall (530) 

Talking of flying things, Ashton Heath is next to Heathrow

Replied: 14th Jan 2023 at 00:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

"The Pentagon’s long hunt for UFOs"

LINK

Replied: 18th Jan 2023 at 20:41
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 18th Jan 2023 at 20:43:19

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

"US seeing more and more UFO sightings"

LINK

Replied: 20th Apr 2023 at 16:14

Posted by: Brasstoff (477)

I saw a sighting last night around 11.30 in the field at the back of the house, I said to my wife can you see a space man?, She looked up and just shook her head which told me she didn't see him! Her eyes have never been that good.
Anyroadup he's not there this morning.

Replied: 20th Apr 2023 at 16:41

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15466)

Tomorrow, the United States House of Representatives, Subcommittee on National Security, is holding a hearing titled.

“Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency”

LINK

Disclosure continues

Replied: 25th Jul 2023 at 20:11

 

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