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Started by: firefox (2158)

Started: 24th Jul 2020 at 08:34

Posted by: tomplum (6487) 

My first intention this morning is to fill my car, I will have no mask and lets see if they refuse to let me go in the shop and pay,,

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 08:46

Posted by: tomplum (6487) 

pah,,, just shows how long it is since I put any fuel in the car,, there's a window to go to pay,,, ah well,

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 09:33

Posted by: Aziraphale (242)

I was in Asda, then Food warehouse, then Sainsbury's. A few had no masks on, I was one, no one said anything.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 14:06

Posted by: PeterP (7862)

Is it a law of the land or is it a guideline If it is a guideline then it is up to each person if they abide by this.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 14:52

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Aziraphale said:

"I was in Asda, then Food warehouse, then Sainsbury's. A few had no masks on, I was one, no one said anything."

That's not surprising, people are understandably apprehensive at approaching the selfish and/or possibly unpredictable elements of society (unless of course you had an exemption, in which case you have my sympathies for being unfairly judged).

The problem is, it is impossible to tell whether someone is simply inconsiderate, irresponsible or have a genuine excuse/reason. In which case, those of us who are holier than thou/responsible citizens must offer the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe a badge would avoid uncertainty.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 14:55
Last edited by 0 years: 24th Jul 2020 at 15:06:31

Posted by: anniedingle (12)

It was a bit uncomfortable when you wear glasses

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 15:02

Posted by: Brasstoff (100)

Me and Mrs went to Tesco, most people had masks, some staff not wearing them. Mustn't be compulsory.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 15:07

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Yes, they are a bit uncomfortable and glasses tend to steam up.

However, it isn't much of an inconvenience to endure for the greater good.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 15:09

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 15:49

Posted by: AngelWood (228)

Shop staff don't have to wear masks, it's the shoppers who have to. Mandatory means you have to, if you won't then stay at home and shop online.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 16:13

Posted by: firefox (2158)

I'm S-H-O-P-P-I-N-G Shopping.
A lot of people are exempt, and you don't neeed a letter to prove it

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 16:20
Last edited by firefox: 24th Jul 2020 at 17:09:10

Posted by: Aziraphale (242)

No years posted.

"Aziraphale said:"

No I didn't, I typed it.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 16:31
Last edited by Aziraphale: 24th Jul 2020 at 16:38:09

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (5303)

I have been to Asda today (Newtown) and all the customers were wearing masks except for children, and of all the staff I laid my eyes on, none of them were wearing masks .....

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 16:49

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Staff can't catch it, it can tell who is staf and who isn't. Clever little virus.
But if we aren't careful, only 98.8% of us will survive it.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 17:10

Posted by: tomplum (6487) 

The shops cannot fine you, So that threat of a £100 fine,

reminds me of an old Country song

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 17:41

Posted by: broady (15991) 

Try glasses, hearing aids and a mask. Must think I have ears like an Indian Elephant. However we must think of the greater good.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 17:49

Posted by: AngelWood (228)

There's a difference between won't and can't, if you won't then that is your choice but don't come crying when you catch it.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 17:50

Posted by: firefox (2158)

There's a difference between when and if.

I've been in Bradford today and these facemasks seemed very popular amongst the women.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 18:04
Last edited by firefox: 24th Jul 2020 at 18:07:49

Posted by: kenee (2085)

How do you know they are women?

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 19:08

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Their beards were poking out the bottom!

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 19:09

Posted by: kenee (2085)

Oo-er

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 19:11

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Looong beards!

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 19:12

Posted by: peter israel (884) 

glasses steaming up!!! try pinching the the piece above the nose so it seals this will stop it steaming up to your glasses
if your having problems with wearing a mask why not try a plastic visor
Full Face Protective Shield hope this is helpful

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:36
Last edited by peter israel: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:40:11

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Just returned from Sainsbury's, B&M Bargains, The Food Warehouse, M&S and TKMaxx.

Only spotted five people in total without a mask, although at that time all stores were pretty quiet. Two young people (but they are probably as irresponsible and selfish as I was at their age), two people who were probably exempt as one looked like the carer of the other and a middle aged bloke (but he was wearing shorts and flip flops so was obviously challenged above the neck anyway). .

Well done the people of Wigan, I knew we were more intelligent/caring than most. I was quite surprised and secretly proud!

Most of the staff were not wearing anything (ooooeerr missus ) apart from TK Maxx who all wore either masks or visors. I felt very comfortable in there.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:39
Last edited by 0 years: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:45:13

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Was this you?



Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:46
Last edited by firefox: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:47:05

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Nah, I'm not that pretty!

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 20:49

Posted by: broady (15991) 

We are due temps of 28-30 next week and I shall wear the almost obligatory crocs and shorts. Just to show people “ I am not challenged from the neck up” I shall wear a mask where ever the by laws tell me I have to. Still not convinced in the value of masks but neither do I feel I can pick and choose what laws I obey. That is the first step to anarchy.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 21:17

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

No offence meant Broady, it isn't so much the shorts as the flip flops, beach wear not middle of Wigan attire.

Crocs, I believe (though not 100% sure) are more civilised and clog like.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 21:23
Last edited by 0 years: 24th Jul 2020 at 21:23:59

Posted by: broady (15991) 

No offence taken. Life is too short.

Replied: 24th Jul 2020 at 21:44

Posted by: Billinge Biker (392)

Dont like the masks..I use my lightweight motorcycle neck warmer...just hoist it up over my essentials when required.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 11:52

Posted by: PeterP (7862)

Save money on face masks and dig your SNOOD out of the draw

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 12:18

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 12:31

Posted by: WN1 Standisher (59)

A motorcycle ' buff ' works just as well as the masks

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 17:05

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 17:19

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous, rather than cowardly." - Robert Wilson

Or in this case, compliant, altruistic and socially responsible.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 17:57

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Compliant.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:01
Last edited by firefox: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:02:09

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

At least they will stay safe.

I would rather be a live sheep than a dead fool.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:04

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Baaaa

Useless

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:11
Last edited by firefox: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:13:02

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Sorry, can you repeat that, I'm a bit mutton.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:13

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

"Leading Northern Ireland GP" "A leading local doctor"

Oh well, it must be right then, off with the masks ladies and gents, the Belfast Telegraph says it's OK.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:17

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Baaaaa

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:19

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

humbug

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:21

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Baaaa.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:22

Posted by: 0 years (4062)


As I said; I would rather be a live sheep than a dead fool.

Case made, confirmed (Baaaa) and rested.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:27
Last edited by 0 years: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:29:11

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Baaaa

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:32

Posted by: raymyjamie (6468)

I was in Tesco Horwich around 4-00 pm this arvo, most people were wearing masks but a small percentage maybe 5% were without masks, they should not have shopping.
All Tesco have to do is put one member of staff at the entrance, preferable a big hairy ar*ed bloke, and stop people without masks fron entering the store.
Non of Tesco staff were wearing masks, but I believe they are not making it compulsory for them to be worn.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 18:59

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

Agreed, don't let them in in the first place and if they are not wearing masks when they get to the till don't serve them.

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 19:01

Posted by: firefox (2158)

Baaaaa

Replied: 25th Jul 2020 at 19:05

Posted by: mollie m (6339) 

So, what some of you are saying is, people who don't wear masks can't shop for food and other necessities, even if they're asthmatic, have COPD, people who already have speaking difficulties such as stammering, people who have difficulty breathing or, like myself, claustrophobic?

It's a bit late in the day to start asking people to wear masks in shops after several months of not having to, dontcha think? So, where did this "new" law come from all of a sudden? Having someone "on guard" at shops would be an outrageous violation of our freedom and would, ostensibly, put themselves in danger of being attacked by desperate people who only want to eat, which is a basic human right!

I continue to shop at my local Tesco Express in the evening when it's quiet and have had no problem. I mentioned to one of the ladies who serves there that wearing a mask wasn't compulsory for them, but she told me that, if they were on the shop floor, they had to wear one as company policy, but could be taken off once serving behind the screen provided. She also told me that they weren't allowed to turn customers away so, to whom do we now turn? Hmm, let me think. Armed Police? The Army? Are we to have Marshal Law declared on people who only want to buy some food? Are we suggesting a spot of Fascisism here? "Oh, just shoot 'em. The cheek! They want food? How dare they!"

Reeediculous! I will not be dictated to by bloody idiots in the Government who don't know their backsides from their elbows and I will NOT cover my face with a skimpy piece of cloth that's as useful as a chocolate fireguard and end up having a panic attack, nor will I be brain-washed, and as long as people continue to believe all the propaganda about this situation then their lives will remain in fear.

If you didn't become ill within the first few weeks, then you won't, because viruses are airborne, meaning they are in the atmosphere from which we cannot escape because we have to breathe to survive.

It's okay, I know many of you will have a go at me for this, and I don't care, but I was so incensed by some of you saying people should be turned away if they aren't wearing masks that you become judge and jury over others who don't know the medical conditions of those that still need to shop, despite their disabilities.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 06:18

Posted by: 0 years (4062)

"So, what some of you are saying is, people who don't wear masks can't shop for food and other necessities, even if they're asthmatic, have COPD, people who already have speaking difficulties such as stammering, people who have difficulty breathing or, like myself, claustrophobic?"

They managed in lockdown and survived, they can manage now. There are people to assist and shopping can be delivered. Also, those who are exempt don't need to wear a mask... simple. On another thread I referred to idiots in Wigan town centre. These weren't people without masks, these were ones with masks on which didn't cover their noses, they probably felt they were making a point and were big and clever. However the only point they were making was that they were not as intelligent as the rest of us.

"It's a bit late in the day to start asking people to wear masks in shops after several months of not having to, dontcha think? So, where did this "new" law come from all of a sudden? Having someone "on guard" at shops would be an outrageous violation of our freedom and would, ostensibly, put themselves in danger of being attacked by desperate people who only want to eat, which is a basic human right!!"

Nope, it is simple common sense and the government have made this decision based on information provided to them by individuals far more informed than you or I. Better late than never. You have basic human rights but you do not have the right to put my life at risk with your reckless behaviour.

"Reeediculous! I will not be dictated to by bloody idiots in the Government who don't know their backsides from their elbows and I will NOT cover my face with a skimpy piece of cloth that's as useful as a chocolate fireguard and end up having a panic attack, nor will I be brain-washed, and as long as people continue to believe all the propaganda about this situation then their lives will remain in fear."

The only thing "Reeediculous!" is your selfish, ignorant (in the uninformed sense) "me, me, me" attitude. "Propaganda" "Brainwashed" Listen to your hysteria! It's a piece of cloth on your face for a short while whilst you are in a shop for goodness sake, get a grip. There are people dying and all you are worried about is putting a bit of cloth on your face.

We are all entitled to our opinion Mollie, and on this I will respectfully disagree.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 11:41
Last edited by 0 years: 27th Jul 2020 at 12:51:21

Posted by: raymyjamie (6468)

Mollie m you are correct when you say we never wore masks for several months at the start of the outbreak, and I’m not defending the Government, but they have never had to deal with a pandemic before, they didn’t know how how it was going to spread and what the infection rate would. be.
I think taking any measure is better than doing nothing.
I stand by my statement that people without masks should not be allowed to shop.
Before they relaxed the rules from 24th Aug, Tesco had staff at the entrance and exit doors of the store, if 2 people came out, they let 2 people in, was that an infringement of human rights? I think not, just common sense control of shopper numbers.
Just to be clear, people with exemptions due to health or medical conditions I wouldn’t have a problem with them not wearing a mask.
The masks I wear are quite substantial and not flimsy pieces of cloth which you describe.
Their main function is to stop the wearer from passing germs on to others, but they do offer some protection from others.
If I could walk round Tesco and see everybody wearing a mask, apart from exemptions, I would feel very confident shopping there.

0years, I endorse your comments, well done.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 17:38

Posted by: scorpion (797)

It was on BBC news last week where someone was talking about masks. He said the ones hand made out of cloth were no use. But there was a mask making article on the BBC news app not long since showing you how to make one using a t-shirt. So you don't know what to believe.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 18:58

Posted by: gaffer (6428) 

What would the young RAF pilots from WW2 think of this discussion. They wore crude, by today’s standards, masks for up to five hours at a time in cramped cockpits , flying through flak and avoiding enemy fighters.
COVID 19 is spread through droplets from the nose and mouth. An appropriately specified face mask will give a very high level of protection to both wearer and others in the vicinity.
In my book safety is paramount, I have no doubt whatsoever that it’s the right thing to do. The confusion in government advice no doubt comes from the mass of advice that emerges from the scientific advisers. Sage alone has 86 members. It’s inevitable that there will be a divergence of views amongst such a large number of specialists.
The PM has an unenviable task trying to condense the advice, which often changes over short periods of time, into a coherent message for the public.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 19:06

Posted by: grimshaw (2268) 

0years.
Well said .

F F S get a grip folks.
My lovely g daughter has been wearing a face mask in china since the outbreak .
And tells me its no bother to folks over there .

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 19:32

Posted by: FAT MICK (1543) 

Very well said Gaffer

Me masked up

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 19:36

Posted by: broady (15991) 

Looks like a pigeon letting board on’t top of thi yed.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 20:40

Posted by: mygriffiths (1169)

The mandatory wearing of masks coincides with the 'release' of those who have been advised to shield for 4 months.Are they possibly better protected by others wearing masks if they can?

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 20:44

Posted by: broady (15991) 

A Swiss Government report said that in a recent outbreak at a hotel only those wearing the plastic visors were affected. It said they were only effective if worn with a face mask.

Replied: 27th Jul 2020 at 21:26

Posted by: scorpion (797)

This woman wants keep her nose out of folks business

NOSY WOMAN

In front of kids too.

Replied: 29th Jul 2020 at 09:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (5303)

I hope that cow dies

Replied: 29th Jul 2020 at 09:20

Posted by: scorpion (797)

What a horrible woman. Doesn't give much hope for people with genuine hidden disabilities.

Replied: 29th Jul 2020 at 09:36

Posted by: PeterP (7862)

Morrisons(Southport) have free disposible masks for people who enter their store who wish to wear a mask but have not got one with them

Replied: 29th Jul 2020 at 11:22

Posted by: firefox (2158)

How many of those people keep the mask for further use? Most I suspect.

Replied: 29th Jul 2020 at 11:28

Posted by: tomplum (6487) 

my new face visor came today, I like it, its much better for glasses wearing folks like me, in shops, But no good on a bike, they keep getting blown off,

Replied: 31st Jul 2020 at 15:11

Posted by: PeterP (7862)

Whilst out for a ride today we went through Hindley and there were three teen age girls getting on a bus not one of them had a mask on . How do we stop the spread of this virus if a % of people have the mind set this does not apply to me

Replied: 31st Jul 2020 at 16:00

Posted by: firefox (2158)

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Replied: 31st Jul 2020 at 16:41

Posted by: gaffer (6428) 

It looks like Wigan and some areas in Greater Manchester, and West Yorkshire, could have been spared from the lockdown on a factual basis.
However, had the lockdown taken effect with the only areas lkely to see a spike in cases then criticism would have followed.
I guess the medics advice was seen as political and they' spent a few days debating it before the politicians and mandarins opted for a larger area to obviate any accusations of bias.

Replied: 31st Jul 2020 at 17:13

 

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