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COACH ROAD

Started by: GOLDEN BEAR (4157) 

It has come to my attention the state of the "coach road" footpath at the side of ST.PAUL Church Goose Green. The other day i went to place some flowers on my parents grave only to find that one's access from the Snowden ave side was completely over-run with Nettles actuallly i first thought they were young trees because of the height of them almost 5 feet tall. So that got me to think who owns and is resposible for the upkeep of the footpath/road?? IS it the dreaded council? is it the local church?? it was when i was engaged in a talk with some-one doing their family tree that during one of the many searches they were doing this person unearthed the actual owner/s ,,, That is it belongs to the descendants
of WINSTANLEY HALL. Again before i start looking into it myself i thought i would ask my cohorts on W.W .I eagerly look forward to some sensible replies.

Started: 9th Aug 2016 at 16:15

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

How did it come to your atention?

Replied: 10th Aug 2016 at 16:52

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4157) 

I apologize if this reply sounds a bit terse,

Are you having a larf??? Are you serious???
And finally have you read the above???

Replied: 10th Aug 2016 at 19:17

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

Someone told you about it, thus bringing it to your attention?

Replied: 10th Aug 2016 at 19:52

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Fingers, in the original post GB said he was using the footpath/road to put flowers on his parents grave.

Replied: 10th Aug 2016 at 20:12

Posted by: tonker (24059) 

Hindley Hall was on that site. In 1721, Hindley Hall was bought by Meyrick Bankes, the owner of Winstanley Hall.

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 08:53

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

I've looked at Public Rights of Way on Wigan Definitive map and statements online, nothing is shown. Though that's not conclusive, as its best to consult the working copy at Wigan Life Centre. Nothing for it under Landowners statements either.

From Tonkers post, it looks like there is a Winstanley Hall connection.

GB, might be worth asking at the church.

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 10:20

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 14:54
Last edited by fingers: 11th Aug 2016 at 14:59:51

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4157) 

Thank you very much AGAIN JAZZY and at last someone who understands what i wrote the question (F) kept asking has nothttp://www.wiganworld.co.uk/ww7/button_post.gifhing to do with what i was seeking that person name is private unto me only i really do hope he get's it this time, one can only hope .
HI tonker, The question about Winstanley Hall as far as i know was owned by a JAMES BANKS 1542-1617 PURCHASED THE ESTATE IN 1595/6 FROM A MEMBER OF THE WINSTANLEY FAMILY.
THE WINSTANLEY PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THE POSSESSION OF THE BANKS FAMILY FROM THAT TIME TO THE PRESENT DAY.
I do not have any recollection of Hindley Hall being linked with Winstanley Hall , but i will try and find out the connection if any!
The latest about the "coach road"the state has somewhat been attended to ie all those dreaded nettles have been scythed down ,it's now a lot better to walk along that is until it grows back again .my reason for going again was to check on parents flower's i had laid and to water them the ROSES ( GOLDEN BOUQUET YELLOW) ARE STILL SUPERB THANK YOU ALL.

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 15:28

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

As this is an open forum, it is my inalienable right to respond on whichever thread or subject I do so wish.

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 16:01

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Yup, it's certainly your right to show yourself up as being unable to read a straightforward post. crack on

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 17:44

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

GB, I couldn't find a lot of info, but you might find this interesting

HINDLEY HALL became the property of Meyrick Bankes of Winstanley, and is held by his trustees. (Fn 31)

Footnote
31. A moiety of the manor of Pemberton, i.e. the Hindley portion, was in the possession of Robert Bankes of Winstanley in August 1721, and appears to have descended with Winstanley; Pal. of Lanc. Plea R. 515, m. 4; 571, m. 6 d.; 628, m. 7.

british history

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 18:08
Last edited by Jazzy: 11th Aug 2016 at 18:10:22

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

Show myself up? I asked a queastion, as is my right. It is equually your right to be a knowall on this site, google is such a wonderful ally, yes?

"Thank you very much AGAIN JAZZY and at last someone who understands what i wrote the question (F) kept asking has nothttp://www.wiganworld.co.uk/ww7/button_post.gifhing to do with what i was seeking that person name is private unto me only i really do hope he get's it this time, one can only hope ."

That clarifies matters.

Now I will leave you to your bitching and bickering to anyone, but remember....

Take time out to trim the conifers.


Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 18:30
Last edited by fingers: 11th Aug 2016 at 18:46:45

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Queastion? Equually??

Yes definitely clarifies matters.

You obviously didn't read GB's post properly, otherwise you would have understood his question you did show yourself up with your question.

My conifers are fine, thanks for your concern

I'll leave the bitching to you, since you started it, but apparently can't take it.
Ha ha!

Replied: 11th Aug 2016 at 21:33

Posted by: tonker (24059) 

" ..... it belongs to the descendants
of WINSTANLEY HALL".

Firstly, Winstanley Hall has no descendants. This is due to the fact that it's a building and does not reproduce.

Secondly, the Winstanley estate (owned by Bankes) stopped at Smithy Brook, where the Hindley estate started.
So, it follows that the land the churchyard is on used to belong to the Winstanley estate, although it probably doesn't now.

I would say it belonged to the church.


And This Mon probably owns Worsley Mesnes!

Replied: 12th Aug 2016 at 11:25
Last edited by tonker: 12th Aug 2016 at 11:32:53

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4157) 

Latest up date on the pathway "coachroad" somebody's have now completed the trimming of all the MILE high nettles it looks a better but i would think now would be the time to get one of those small dozer's to go along and and take a fair section of the soil off, then put weedkiller down then a few loads of the gravel the railay type ,then hopefully that would be that!

Replied: 22nd Aug 2016 at 18:48

 

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