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Orica (Roburite) housing development in shevington

Started by: john 46 (426)

What do you think about spoiling wonderful woodland,chasing out deer,foxes,rabbits,squirrels. To build more houses and cause more chaos on our already overloaded roads.

Started: 26th May 2007 at 16:47
Last edited by john 46: 26th May 2007 at 17:14:40

Posted by: empress (9667) 

They'll build anywhere now John, I've seen homes squeezed into the tiniest of places lately, and what about those new estates that look like ghettos? 3 storey and all attached to each other in rows, look like prisoner of war camps or summat.
Theres no thought given to wildlife, or anywhere historical, its all about money. Not that young couples can afford most of these places .

Replied: 26th May 2007 at 22:27

Posted by: reddi8 (1107)

we travel along the canal on a boat and see all that wild life on the site. It would be criminal for it to be destroyed.

Replied: 26th May 2007 at 22:51

Posted by: stel48 (2986)

Its a damned shame all the property lying empty and they keep building more. We need to preserve more I think not more bloody "developments"
Enough already

Replied: 26th May 2007 at 23:11

Posted by: jamse (4118)

Is there a web page where I can learn more about this development.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 12:15

Posted by: john 46 (426)

jamse No web page. The proposal is for 160 units. A unit can be one house or a block of appartments. The S A D. Shevington Against Development group hold committee meetings in Shevington conservative club. There may be something on myspace, will update you on this.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 14:34

Posted by: andie9469 (255) 

i cant believe how quick those houses have gone up on woodhouse lane and on the canal bank near wigan lower road

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 14:51

Posted by: tonker (27933) 

First MAD, now SAD. I call them the 'Say No' Brigade, Garswood is rife with 'em!

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 15:08

Posted by: jamse (4118)

Somebody has to stand up to the developers otherwise they will build all over us!

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 15:13

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Stand up all you want Jamse, no one will listen. The council wont and the developers wont.Money,money,money!And im not on about Billy Idol either.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 15:56

Posted by: reddi8 (1107)

I believe the extra Community Charge the council recieves from the blocks of flats is the reason they allow them to be built. If they were houses they wouldn`t get as much.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 16:00

Posted by: jamse (4118)

They have got to give it a try DD.
Better than just sitting back and saying nothing.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 16:45

Posted by: wiganer516 (5590) 

John u may find the ODD synical person on here regarding people wanting to protect there town, Its people like MAD & SAD that have got the balls to sit up and make people listen and realise that not all gevelopment is good. keep up the good work

Regards

Julian

Chair (MAD)

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 18:51
Last edited by wiganer516: 27th May 2007 at 19:03:44

Posted by: coccium (2569) 

wiganer516,just look what they have done to the Wigan pier area,flats flats and more flats,and what did these developers and spin councillors promise,a concert hall to be proud of and they have even gone back on that empty promise.For my money the government and the council and developers all work hand in hand against the wishes of the vast majority of the public.I would not trust one of them for a single second.Any councillor or developer or member of parliament care to reply out there.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 19:14

Posted by: john 46 (426)

Thanks for your support dont feel quite as SAD now someone else cares.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 19:26
Last edited by john 46: 27th May 2007 at 19:29:21

Posted by: wiganer516 (5590) 

coccium i agree with you but the more people stand upto them the more the people will get its people sitting on the fence calling campaigners for wanting to do something that moan when things get the go ahead when there not wanted.

We need to be heard

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 19:56

Posted by: john 46 (426)

Much of the roburite site has been undisturbed for 100 years even though it has made explosives, The site has a tree preservation order and is also classed as a site of biological interest. National trust people have been around the site and suggested it should be fenced off and made a nature reserve.

Replied: 27th May 2007 at 22:46
Last edited by john 46: 27th May 2007 at 23:03:01

Posted by: jamse (4118)

There are many campaigns across the country that have had an effect. Sitting back and doing nothing will get us nowhere!

If you don't want the development then support SAD or MAD.

Let the council be aware of your opposition.

You may be surprised by the outcome.

Replied: 28th May 2007 at 00:18

Posted by: jamse (4118)

John , is there a website or anywhere we can view information on the work you are doing?

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 00:25

Posted by: tonker (27933) 

It's the same old story, 'not in my backyard'. Development of housing has to take place somewhere, why not there? It's a 'brownfield site', not open greenbelt land, so nothing will change. It will remain developed, like it has been for 100 years (john46). When Shevington was first developed, the original residents probably complained, then, with each development, each bunch of new residents join in with the 'saying no to development', so, eventually, the new residents of Roberite site will also join in to 'say no' to further developments and so it goes on. Winstanley is a prime example. At each of Winstanleys development phases the notices have been in the windows of the previous one, 'Say NO to further development in Winstanley' and 'Save our green space'.
Like I said, not in my backyard!

Industrial/commercial development is another matter. You don't have houses standing empty like you do industrial units, yet they want to build more units onto greenbelt/agricultural land in Ashton.
SO, there's an idea! Why not build industrial units on the Roberite site (brownfield) instead of the Ashton site (greenbelt/agricultural)?

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 10:45

Posted by: tommy39 (490) 

for what it is worth, i really don't think that land is fit to build on considering it's past history ,anthracite,tnt ,diesel , and other substances . i'd think long and hard before i moved there

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 19:33

Posted by: jamse (4118)

Have Shevington Against Development got a web site or any contact details?

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 19:43

Posted by: tommy39 (490) 

for what it is worth, i really don't think that land is fit to build on considering it's past history ,anthracite,tnt ,diesel , and other substances . i'd think long and hard before i moved there

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 20:09

Posted by: john 46 (426)

Tonker its not a case of not in my back yard. I have worked there for 30 years and everyone who has been there thinks its quite unique. In many areas its like the land that that time forgot, there cant be many more places in England like it, you have to experience it to understand.

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 23:43

Posted by: john 46 (426)

jamsie sorry about the delay there is a web site on myspace, but even i am having trouble with it. update ASAP.

Replied: 30th May 2007 at 23:55

Posted by: highlander (9)

Try and get a conservation group involved in the debate yes the woodland is like time forgot it,its a little tresure.
Try The Wildlife Trusts i am sure they would look into it all.

Replied: 31st May 2007 at 17:00

Posted by: john 46 (426)

jamse, The web site for Roburite is www.myspace.com/shevingtonresidents very little on at the moment apart from email address and brief minute from first mtg.

Replied: 31st May 2007 at 18:26

Posted by: nyce horse (3440)

People keep saying that this is a "Brownfield" site,but technically it is a " Major existing developed site" within the greenbelt. It was only given this status in 2005, not took the Aussies long to talk about building on it. Personally I don't think it should have been given this status, as, although it covers a large area, there are very few actual buildings on it.I am very concerned that the whole site is cut off from the Public, and it would be very easy for the owners to organise a cull of wildlife to make any development easier.There is even talk of a round-about being built near the hump-back bridge for access, nice when you can have the road network altered so you can make a profit.

Replied: 1st Jun 2007 at 23:15

Posted by: nyce horse (3440)

Just noticed that the council seem to be giving lots of coverage to the Shevington conservation area, this seems to entail adding the Plough pub to it. The cynical in me suspects that this is a smokescreen to divert attention away from the woodland getting Blitzed. Do the people of Shevington know what is going on? I can't understand why there is not a public outcry, what about your councillors? should they not be helping?
I also see that someone is applying to build a golf course in the area! where do the planners think all the traffic is going to go? or do they just not care?

Replied: 3rd Jun 2007 at 23:41

Posted by: john 46 (426)

If you want to check out the roburite site look on google earth or maps and see how much of a brown field site it is post code is WN6 8HT.

Replied: 5th Jun 2007 at 18:08

Posted by: john 46 (426)

See (David Bellamy at Orrell EVENING POST ).

Replied: 13th Jun 2007 at 17:50
Last edited by john 46: 13th Jun 2007 at 23:23:33

 

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