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Started by: john joseph (3197)

Fifteen British Navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says

It dosnt matter what reason the Iranians give

Mr Blair you better get them out of there fast
and why have you allowed a situation like this to happen what if it was a nuclear ship
come on get yourself together this is the most serious Error you have made

Im really mad that this could happen

JJ

Started: 23rd Mar 2007 at 13:10

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Sounds like a navigation error to me

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 13:45

Posted by: billy (26053) 

pushing their luck if you ask me. theyve been pulling the tail of the tiger for so long now, it seems they are believing in their own power(power???)
i reckon we should go in and turn the country into an ashtray.
anyone for petty fours???

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 14:18

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

You remember billy when we did our sea time
no one dare even look at a british citizen or all hell was let loose

now it looks like they are not scared anymore and if thats the case then its about time we changed their minds

Im still angry

JJ

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 17:08

Posted by: empress (9667) 

I've just read the news on msn and I can't believe the bloody nerve of them, they just came in and took our lads at gunpoint.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 17:55

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Long gone are the days when Britain commanded any respect JJ, sad, but true

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 18:06

Posted by: billy (26053) 

lets kick the politicaly correct a*******s into touch, and win it back again.send a hit squad in.
not long ago this would have been a declaration of war against the uk !!!i still feel that this is only part of the "BIG PICTURE"retaliation, and iran would get the sympathies of other muslim countries.a middle east flare up and all the oil cut off to the west(the west got it outa the ground for them) i dont know why we are delaying the obvious outcome to all this b******t.
charggggee.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 21:33

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

"Charggggee", you at the front Billy, or is it ok for young men to spend their lives for you ????

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 21:38

Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 21:51
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Posted by: aspey (168)

John Joseph. After the next general election Blair is off to the USA and staying there.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 22:27

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

More likely it was an explosive situation, were the Troops were trained to play it down instead of a whole Middle East war being kicked off, er.........think its called...........DIPLOMACY !

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 22:39

Posted by: dizzy blonde (2132)

What the h**l are our lads & lasses doing out there anyway? Blair & Bush, hope you're both really proud of yourselves because what has it got you? Apart from blood on your hands. Hope you both burn in hell. Sorry venting everyone.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 22:45

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

OMG, love this, if you were in a Garrison Town, sick of squaddie fights because they have no other outlet for their training, you'de all be screaming to get rid. Jeez, if you feel so strong, go out there and protest, all you do is weaken the home support. BACK THEM UP, they dont need the american style 'anti-war' protests, IT DOES THEM NO GOOD !!!!

Replied: 23rd Mar 2007 at 22:50
Last edited by the_suit: 23rd Mar 2007 at 22:52:18

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

Question !!

Why didn`t HMS Cornwall intervene and arrest the Iranian seamen ?

JJ

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 00:42

Posted by: billy (26053) 

hands tied by whitehall JJ. its the old story, the front line cant do nothing untill the gin swigging phoneys decide the next step.political chess...the lads and gals on the front line are just political pawns.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 10:25

Posted by: billy (26053) 

whats the "united nations" for anyway???this is an act against a nation in neutral waters??it aint the first time these spooks have done this, (and got away with it) they still have on show in the capitol, the boat they seized(and were ordered to return)when hoon was the man. they just put two fingers up to him.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 10:29

Posted by: empress (9667) 

JJ thats a bloody good question!

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 10:33

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

<quote>Why didn`t HMS Cornwall intervene and arrest the Iranian seamen ? </quote>

The 14 men & 1 woman were in launches, intercepting a cargo vessel,(a normal procedure in the gulf) suspected of carrying stolen vehicles to Iraq.
It was whilst they were aboard the ship, that the Iranian navy arrested them.
What could the Cornwall do? There are two armed ships, one British the other Iranian with British personnel on board.
The Cornwall couldn't attack the Iranian ship & put members of it's own crew in jeopardy. Better to play along diplomatically. ie, No bloodshed. It's been done before


Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 11:28
Last edited by ©art©: 24th Mar 2007 at 11:31:30

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

Art

how can you be diplomatic with an Iranian
They are already under sanctions and cocking their up noses at us

but tell me How the blinkin eck could they " Sneak" up on our lads at sea they should have been warned by HSM cornwall of approaching Iranian boats
to be prepared to defend themselve or hightail it out of there .

The nation want Answers Mr Blair

JJ

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 12:20

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

They've done exactly the same before, & "our lads" were released without harm, after diplomatic pressure.
What would you have them do, go in all guns blazing,then come out many relatives mourning. If it was a borderline incident, the Iranian ship had just the same rights to be in that area as us. So any long range action would have been just as harmful to our lads as the Iranians....Bearing in mind, the Iranians were closest to the cargo vessel

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 12:50
Last edited by ©art©: 24th Mar 2007 at 12:54:07

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

According to the papers and T V here they were not on board ( as Carte says ) they were coming back to the Conway when they were surrounded by the Iranion Gun boats 6 of them at gun point and taken aboard and away correct me if I am wrong

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 15:54

Posted by: bryn156 (193)

this could be a ploy by Blair to give Bush his excuse to invade Iran,If it was an navigation error,then all well and good,and lets get our sailors back home.But to enter some other countries territorial waters,permission to do that comes from the highest level....

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 18:40

Posted by: billy (26053) 

territorial waters....ah yes i remember. we used to have territorial waters didnt we??but we have been kicked out of our territorial waters by anyone who chooses to enter them and fish them for instance. they have fished their own waters barren, by virtue of ignoring the mesh sizes. they have been caught doing the same thing here.
lets board them and take them to the city for questioning, and confessions.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 19:21

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Never thought of it like that bryn 156.
Nowt surprises me where blair and bush are concerned.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 19:27

Posted by: billy (26053) 

we have lost all our major industries ie
car
motor cycle
fishing fleet
merchant navy
army slashed to ribbons
navy slashed to zilch
farming lost to heavily subsidised french.
free speech
charge of racist to be supportive of your own country.
the list is endless.sad to see the posts on here that generaly support the piracy of iran.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 19:27

Posted by: billy (26053) 

re fishing...please dont tell me they are stripping our home waters cos they are in the common market.so far i havent seen any benefits for this country in the common market???blair and his freeloading blossom are in berlin right now. its alledged he will sign away more of this countries rights, without giving us a vote on it.

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 19:31

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

We're talking about sevicemens lives & security, in unstable situations & it's now degraded to fishing rights.
As someone said (when answering ANY Australian post) "Throw another prawn on the Barbie" or "is there something burning on your Barbie"....Short of a Barbie Doll 'eh?
Back to the thread: The only reporter on the "Frigate Cornwall"( not Conway, that's in Wales) is a BBC man. I'd rather believe someone "on the spot" than 2nd hand "news" papers fantasies.
I'm not there, so I would rather let the people on the spot make decisions who are. Don't you agree?

Replied: 24th Mar 2007 at 23:48
Last edited by ©art©: 24th Mar 2007 at 23:49:15

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

"People on the Spot"

ok art
I presume you mean the officers aboard cornwall

Bridge wheelhouse reports ""it looks like Iranians have captured our boarding crew mmmm wonder what we should do


Deck boy shouts up to the Bridge
" go get em capt"

"erm lets not be hasty ", have a meeting first

come on art the iranians are the worst country for human rights

I pray that nothing happens to our lads and lass

JJ















Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 00:26

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

In a hostage situation JJ!

Could I ask: What would you do?

Any action, could do more damage to the captives, than the perpetrators.
The man on the spot is a journalist for the BBC, inserted aboard the ship, getting any knowledge (allowed) first hand.
The newspaper report is anything picked up coming from the BBC man....then enhanced (journalistic licence)

I agree with you to a certain extent, but we haven't a clue what's going on. Something must be done, but not by me & thee. Give the ones in the know a chance. Like I've said before, it happened in 2004, the captives came out unscathed, said they had been looked after OK. A few scares maybe, but nothing physically harmful. Let's just hope they come home safe & sound...My grandson has just returned from Afghanistan,Helmand Province,safe. That's not a pleasant place to be either. But he chose his job/future/destiny, who are we to disagree?

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 00:58

Posted by: billy (26053) 

sit back?
say nowt?
head in the sand?
hmmm.....seems that scenario was played out in the 30s whilst adolph was emerging.cost the jews over 6 million lives.yeah, good idea that, leave it to the man on the spot.
if ya had the name of a no nonsense, "hit ya back hard neighbour"..no one, but no one, ever messed with you. you cant pussy foot with a tyrant, history shows us that.

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 11:02

Posted by: billy (26053) 

the female hostage(mother of two)should be released imediately, no if no buts, now.

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 11:04

Posted by: billy (26053) 

i"m smokin,lets do it.whilst we are at it, lets clean up this country once and for all, of its home spun anti brit no marks. what did they ever do to enjoy that which was fought for, by the few for centuries.

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 11:08

Posted by: billy (26053) 

somethings burning on the BARBIE?????

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 11:09

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

Apologies and much Grovelling ==Conway==Cornwall I had been doing research on my ancesters serving on H M S Conway yonks ago ,hence the mistake = grovel = grovel

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 11:39

Posted by: billy (26053) 

at the rate this awfull government is getting rid of the royal navy ships,a mistake like yours liz, will be rare. (there just wont be any ships to identify.)maybe a speed boat or two???maybe.

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 12:59

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

"charggggee"

Billy Boy, you seemed to intimate we should get 'Stuck In'. You'll be leading I take it, joining young men and women in death and injury, or, you prefer to lead from the armchair ???

Replied: 25th Mar 2007 at 18:09

Posted by: billy (26053) 

had the needle in again latrine???

Replied: 26th Mar 2007 at 19:24

Posted by: billy (26053) 

affects the reasoning power ya know?
dilutes memory span too,

Replied: 27th Mar 2007 at 10:41

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

Answer to "Art"

Under normal situations where any person mistakenly strayed into anothers teritorial water I would be Diplomatic,

However countries like Iran ,Syria ,and other known Despot countries, I would not tolerate such actions ,
I would demand physical British involvment and our knowledge of the holding area without comprimise
If I didn,t get this assurance then I would be prepared to fight for my countries Representatives .

Also to SUIT
I have the following to say,
If you involve me in your replies to forum It would be a good idea to Ask me had I been Involved in conflct before you assumed ,and My contribution has never been "Money" Who cares about money
not knowing you suit I cannot comment on your character other than It seems few members do not have a liking for you
dont try to belittle me with you off the cuff remarks . or I may join the them

JJ


Replied: 27th Mar 2007 at 15:18

Posted by: billy (26053) 

depends how many lines he snorts jj,seems to me, if any mail is directed in his direction,your fair game for his put downs. he was a very important person in the service(which service??)emptying latrines...or if he was a seaman(i dont believe for one sec)he would have been capt of the heads.

Replied: 27th Mar 2007 at 16:56

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

AYE AYE Billy

Splice the mainbrace, Another day tomorrow

JJ
AB Bosun,

Replied: 27th Mar 2007 at 18:42

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

"which service??" The service that started on land, Senior service my ass

Replied: 27th Mar 2007 at 19:46

Posted by: billy (26053) 

bin snortin agin jj....what did i tell thi.

Replied: 28th Mar 2007 at 10:09

Posted by: brocklanders (696) 

I don't think they were in Iranian waters, for one the navy is so skint we wouldn't have the fuel to get out that far! Never liked the tories, but if maggie was in charge you think we would be hanging about scratching heads, think not, dread to think what'll happen if the argies ever try to take the falklands again! Get them home NOW!!!

Replied: 29th Mar 2007 at 10:08

Posted by: billy (26053) 

we aint got a navy
or army, thats equipt for the present needs.
the air force has been slahed to the bone.
given the world wide territory of the internet, the ayatollas will know exactly just what weve got and havent got??hence all the pushing around.
maggie thatcher was a poison dwarf, but...no way would these gnomes be ready to play can can with her.

Replied: 29th Mar 2007 at 14:38

Posted by: karvern (76) 

What a subject to get the hackles raised!!! What suprises me is that we're all so ready to give our opinions on what we would have done. We have no idea what we'd have done/should have done, because we weren't in that situation!! Just like the crew didn't suspect they'd be faced with that situation either.

JJ, from reading your comments,you come across as very biased on your opinions. The information you receive from the news is somewhat distorted because us mere public viewers are not allowed to know the full details. Don't you ever question the fact that our country, it's government and it's military can make mistakes too but you're not allowed to know? I can't believe that you 'generalize' on all Iranians being the bad guy! That's basically saying that whatever bad thing happens in the UK, we're all the same right?? Also, remind yourself that whatever information has been fed to us via the media, at least we're given a little of 'both sides' to the story and we believe it - right? Well, people such as Iranians are fed information that is one sided that basically condemns us via their media - why shouldn't they believe that too? This situation needs to be rationalized and I'm sure, just like before, it will be, and our people will be sent back home. Let's not keep focusing on the negatives, and the has beens.

Replied: 29th Mar 2007 at 15:12

Posted by: bryn156 (193)

Adverse comments in the British tabloids are doing nothing but stirring up more fuel for the fire.Lets hope that this government can come to a peaceful conclusion with Iran & our servicemen & women are released..

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 00:40

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

Karvern
your quote!!
"Just like the crew didn't suspect they'd be faced with that situation either."

All I can say to that is They should have been trained to expect attack , even MPs are asking why do we have an a sleeping "escort" including a helicopter, as my earlier message said

You also say
" JJ, from reading your comments,you come across as very biased on your opinions"

Of course Im Biased the hostages are my countrymen, but Im not an Idiot/Simpleton as you suggest neither do I wear a cap and gown,
nor am I stupid enough to think all Iranians are of the same the mind set In (private) that they have to show in public.
I am most surprised that you felt it right to personaly critisise my original imput question


"(Why didn`t HMS Cornwall intervene and arrest the Iranian seamen") ?

JJ


Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 00:49

Posted by: dave© (3507)

"(Why didn`t HMS Cornwall intervene and arrest the Iranian seamen") ?

Not the wisest thing to do when your comrades are in the hands of the opposition.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 01:04

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

All been said before dave©, but some "Gung Ho Experts" don't follow the detail of what action is appropriate.
If any need to know in similar circumstances what happened the last time,
"Force Went In", regardless.
Research "Operation Eagles Claw"

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 01:16

Posted by: billy (26053) 

helicopter overhead?
warship with listening devices

iranians out gunned..out numbered..yet we allowed them to snatch our personel from iraqi waters???its just inexcusable, heads must roll on this one.
there is simply no excuse, the skipper of the frigate wasnt up to the job, or his responsibilities.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 10:28

Posted by: billy (26053) 

wallflowers!!!!you make me puke.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 10:38

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

All that from an expert barge deckhand

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 12:52

Posted by: billy (26053) 

he"s back again wigan world the other non profiler. still in the black angry print i see. tut tut,you sad little pigmy.get out more, take some deep breaths of this good english air, that me and the likes of me, provided for ya. better than the NAZI kind,i"l guarantee you that.PS
are you a smoker??or a 4 line sniffer??you always seem so angry with yourself.
chill out...count to ten, and by the way..think well, and be well.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 13:57

Posted by: billy (26053) 

it works...trust me DIVVUS.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 13:58

Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

vancouver
seattle
norfolk virginia.
had the time of my life, and more to the point, would do it all over again.
HAPPY DAYS...were have they all gone.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:24

Posted by: billy (26053) 

those were the days my friend
i thought theyd never end, tra la la la la la la laaaaa.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:26

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Isnt 'jumping ship', 'going over the wall', whatever you wanna dress it up as, known as Desertion ??

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:27

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Yer all like schoolkids, ganging up and yer all grown men and all.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:31

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

i'm not, im only 12" tall, lots of growth yet

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:34

Posted by: billy (26053) 

he"s here folks...the zoooot, well i never, heres me thinking you"d overdosed.
OVER THE WALL???over the "GUNNEL"more like.whats your story??or are you a disaffected listener. what outfit werent you in??tell us zoot suit.
zoot suit
six legged cockroach
and the black snorter.
we are amassing quite a gathering friends.and what do they all have in common??yup, airs of mystery and no clues.
ah well...maybe the cops are intersted eh??gotta be some reason.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:34

Posted by: billy (26053) 

watch it disco my good friend...if these guys suspect your getting uppety, you will receive the mob treatment. ask yourself, can ya take it? know this, ya got me in your corner.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:38

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Billy, I was in the Army (Infantry) 16 years.

P.S. - Was jumping ship desertion then ?

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 15:43

Posted by: billy (26053) 

unautherised leave. off pay from the moment of escape. never did approve of some masters who considered themselves "GOD"some ships (thankfully few)were very poor in the cookhouse dept.i recall one day throwing something off my plate over the side, it was just awfull. above me a voice called my name, and ordered me to the bridge. the skipper docked me two days pay for(wait for it)DUMPING SHIPS STORES???for this offence i litteraly worked two days on board for nowt?get my drift?these jumped up little ceasares were untouchable.
i do not know of any other service where this could happen. make you work for nowt???

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 16:31

Posted by: billy (26053) 

certainly not the army...or am i wrong???empress, whats your input on this subject,did you ever know of it??

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 16:33

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Is it me, or does someone seem to be defending themselves for desertion (during war), or AWOL (in peacetime) ? Either way, in MY day, when you signed on the dotted line, you just got on with it, no matter the hardships

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 16:57

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

P.S. - Yes, you work for nowt in the army, its called being fined pay

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 16:58

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Dont fret about me billy. I can take it.
Glad that i have you in my corner. Its just a few silly fellas trying to recapture their childhood antics.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 17:23

Posted by: empress (9667) 

I wish someone would confiscate suits BIG WOODEN SPOON.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 19:29

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

I wish you would read the whole thread.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 19:49

Posted by: bryn156 (193)

Re my first post on this topic.GeorgeBush is still standing by to assist his buddy Tony if the need arises.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 19:52

Posted by: empress (9667) 

There are 71 /72 replies Mr Suit, so i just read the last few and the first message.

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 20:10

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Fair enough, but if you must comment, try gleaning the context of my post from all the available material

Or just be biased to Billy (the easier option)

Replied: 30th Mar 2007 at 21:50

Posted by: empress (9667) 

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: kb10975 (193)

billy isnt an entertainment for me! If he was ever a 'proper sailor' then I'm the queen of ingland, anyone who has sworn their allegence to the queen should respect other people! billy boy - you stink.BIG TIME. (emp - before you 'get up on/off your throne'I would take the pics of your kids off the internet(no offence) - you dont know who is 'peeping') BTW Art PIGMY!! smokin summat - LOL - one for u Art!!

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 00:12

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

This "non profiler" used to have his pic on every post, Plus( as Brian will confirm) we had a "rogues gallery", where everybody who wanted could view "proper" pics of everybody else, & know who they were talking to. That was, of course, before prats who talked to themselves, posted racist comments, made threats, & dressed up in string ties,line dancing outfits, goatee face fungus, shouted Yeeehaw,called people "pink Bellies",+ other names, throw another prawn on the barbie,(when Oz people answered his precious rants).
Grow up little man, stand to your full 5'3" height. I'll bet you have child killers(bull bars) on yer lickle 4x4 tractor yet.
Cometh the day, cometh the divvy
In other words, a childish little man from the Mornington Rd area, who wasn't in the queue when they dished out the brains.............OK luvvy?

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 01:46

Posted by: billy (26053) 

this guy is getting scary???is he still at large walking amongst the general populace???listen to him rant and name call???and his attempts to find out just where my abode is, ,,,is just so pathetic.you make no contribution on this site fa**y arty, so why dont you go back to the chat room sites were you are best suited.
as for the other non-de-plume weird profiler, i would just remind him/her, that the merchant navy does not take an oath to queen and country. you pratt. says it all to me, as to what service(non)you were in.i will have to go back to my initial promise, not to get involved with gnomes and sicko"s. the poster arty f***y is wallpaper from now on. i mean how much sense is there in tit for tat posts to imbeciles like this clown.
i"m gone.anyone for petty fours???

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 09:58

Posted by: billy (26053) 

5!3??
mornington rd???
dereck accora you aint pussy cat.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:08

Posted by: john joseph (3197)

Forum Members
Should stick to the subject highlighted above If they want to have a go at an member its easy just start another Topic
with your heading, EG ( "I Hate So and so cos")

Remember this site is read all over the word and the Irainian problem looks like it will continue for some time yet

so how about keeping to the point .

JJ

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:14

Posted by: empress (9667) 

KB don't tell me what I can and can't do.Who died and made you queen?
I see you been having a look at my profile, if I want pics of my kids on there I will, I been using the net years, i keep my kids safe in the real world darlin.You lot have a little bicker then seem to bring my name into it fast...........why is this ? Do I intimidate you in some way?
If you actually read all of what is written in here instead of taking itsy bitsy pieces of what someone says then ripping it to pieces it might be a peaceful place.
You all tend to make any remark into a racist one, you are bigger racists yourselves for jumping in feet first at the the least little thing.You rip into Billy for being a sailor calling him a liar, at least if I pass him in the street I will know him, he dosn't hide away like a coward.
As for my name, lets straighten this one up , one last time, it obviously bothers some of you fools, Empress was a name created on msn for me 5 years ago, I use it on all forums, am usually known as emps not empress, cos I shorten it.That way any of my online pals knows who they are talking to, I don't hide behind dozens of chat names. I have nothing to hide.
Billy I will add here, I don't see any of what you say as racist, my family and friends are made up of many races, creeds and colours( does that shock some of you?)
You tend to state what many brits (OF ALL CREEDS AND COLOURS) are thinking .
A few in here have jumped on my forum name and make snide comments lately, if it bothers you so much go create something a bit more inventive for yaselves.Now sod off your boring me with ya whinging and moaning and misery.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:15

Posted by: billy (26053) 

you have summed up what the majority in wigan world feel empress.you make a response to the daily news-paper/tv and bingo, if ya aint racist, then the paper you read is hung around your neck???a couple of non-de-plumes in here i can understand the low mentality of them, every site has them, but one poster(another non de plume)should know better. some of his posts show an intellect way above the other misscriants, yet he falls into the trap they lay??i propose we ignore them from this point on, and that way leave them adrift on the high seas of bilge.
good post empress, and well worth reading.power to your elbow mate.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:30

Posted by: empress (9667) 

Proud to call you a mate Billy.They are getting on my last nerve now with all their silliness, am sure my eyes twitching!

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:36

Posted by: billy (26053) 

they"l be back like the plague empress, so i guess we just have to blank them. move on and keep this great site and forum moving.
have a nice day you and yours. the missus has already got the b****y spade and mower out for me.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:50

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

{quote}his attempts to find out just where my abode is, ,,,is just so pathetic.you make no contribution on this site{/quote}
I'll post yer house number street name & postcode if you want, wee willy. I wouldn't. But it's no prob.With your permission of course
As for contributions, show me one post of yours, with any help to others mentioned.
I don't scrabble thro' the papers finding racial comment, to pronounce on!!
As for Kids pics Emp.
These boards were shut down once, because one or two idiots made threats against a member & in a menacing manner said " & I know which school your kids go to as well"
That's why original members don't usually give many details, since the boards were reopened. Posting kids pics, is a no-no on the web, for obvious reasons, you have yours sothat's OK with me....I wouldn't
These boards have been going, (with a short break, due to reasons mentioned) since 2002.How did we manage without you & willy. It was a community then

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:52

Posted by: empress (9667) 

art it takes many people from all walks to make a proper community, many different personalities, and of course the odd yob.We seem to be under yob rule just lately in here, am starting to wonder if its worth coming in .I always preffered the name community, it was friendly feeling.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 10:59

Posted by: billy (26053) 

big big mistake coming to my door play p***k, the reception would do your health tones no good. now be a good boy and get back on track, I.E posting in a civil manner, and not trying to sterio type some posters...it aint about that, its simply an exchange of views. thats all. be nice now, try it, you will find your neighbours more ready to bid you good morning.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 13:02

Posted by: billy (26053) 

like JJ says...whats happened to the original thread on the iranian piracy????
back on track puleassse.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 13:04

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Has anyone noticed how its always the fellas on the forum that kick things off.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 13:34

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Not getting at you billy. This so reminds me of bullying. I mean what is their problem with billy. He should not have to justify his past history or credentials.
And whats all this about, "i will post yer house number,street name and postcode if you want, wee willy".Thats offensive, how old are you? just grow up.

Has for posting pics in profiles. Well all i can say is each to their own.If emps was to say,be in todays evening post with her family and the paper was covering a story, say for example, she had raised money for her local school, well isnt it not just as easy to glean info from the local paper about someone.
Theres lots of stories every day in the paper, magazines, tv, etc about all sorts of different people, names, where you live, etc. And to me that can be just as easy to find info about someone.
If a member wants to put photos or info in their profile then thats up to them.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 13:51

Posted by: billy (26053) 

i am sticking with the posted threads in future disco,but its not easy as you have pointed out...theres always some lonely soul that wants to turn the site into saturday night and all the aggro that goes with sat night.
i promise not to respond to the pigmy brain poster in here.
my round..what ya having disco?ask emp whats her choice.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 17:30

Posted by: empress (9667) 

Hiya Disco n Billy, exact same treatment was dealt out to XRH , they ought to be ashamed.They want Billy to give out details about his service history yet say ball all about themselves.Pots calling kettle burnt arse.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 17:58
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Posted by: bryn156 (193)

The post is as stated above..Please lets stick to the subject please..Thank you all

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 20:40

Posted by: levi1962 (3577) 

would be interestin to see Iran reaction if Blair ordered one of our nuclear submarines to the gulf would sure as hell make things interestin.....

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 20:45

Posted by: dizzy blonde (2132)

levi1962, wouldn't surprise me where Blair's concerned as he's as thick as pig manure and hasn't an ounce of nous. That's the trouble, he's led this country into this mess and hasn't any idea of what to do.

Replied: 31st Mar 2007 at 21:55

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Someone who answers to a part of a post, in "Internet speak", without reading & answering properly to a post
Is known as a "Numpty"
Plenty o' them around here

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 01:11

Posted by: levi1962 (3577) 

including yourself art, still dizzy blonde just wait till gordon browns in charge and all i can say about that is god help us all....

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 02:14

Posted by: billy (26053) 

amen.
interesting to see the yanks have got in on the act ..i.e release the brit hostages now.at least we have a friend indeed here, no matter how we deride them at times, they have in this instance done more than the UN or the EU???whats that about standing up to be counted??

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 10:13

Posted by: billy (26053) 

they"l do for me.ya cant mamby pamby sabre rattlers.this guy in iran is cocking a snoop at the UN and the west in general.seems every generation seems to throw one up. wars to end all wars???nice phrase, but, alas,empty phrase.just a slogan i guess, sounds inspiring at the time of print.

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 10:33

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I read that Bush has stuck his two penneth in. I bet the Iranians will listen and all.

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 13:52

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Billy, how CAN you advocate our men and women risking their lives, when you are a self confessed deserter ????

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 18:16

Posted by: billy (26053) 

SEASY LATRINE EMPTIER....JUST WALK DOWN THE GANG PLANK AND THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT??
BUT AS I UNDERSTAND DESERTER...DOSENT HE/SHE GET LOST IN THE POPULACE AND HIDE???IN THE MERCHANT NAVY, THERE IS NO SUCH PHRASE AS DESERTER. ITS KNOW AS vnc
YA PUZZLED LATRINE CLEANER??LET ME SOLVE THE MATTER FOR YOU,...voyage not completed.BUT WHEN THE CASH RUNS OUT, YA RUNS BACK TO THE POOL OFFICE AND YA SIGNS ON ANOTHER SHIP. !!!!WHERE IN YOUR NON MILITARY MIND, DOES DESERTER COME INTO THE EQUATION HERE? I CANT BE A DESERTER IF I AM BACK ON THE HIGH SEAS AGIN???OR DO YOU HAVE A DIFF LOGIC ON THIS???ITS PLAIN TO EVERYONE IN WIGAN WORLD YOU DO THE TALK, BUT YA CANT DO THE WALK(MILITARY ERECT STANCE)YOUR AN UNDISCIPLINED WANNA BE. NOW AINT THAT A FACT.
AINT HE A NICE FELLA MATES, LOVES A GET TOGETHER DOES ZOOT.

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 18:37

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Billy, you must forgive me, and i do apologise, most sincerely.

I thought a deserter was someone who deserted his post in time of need. As you have correctly pointed out, you just left your post and returned when it suited you. My apologies, you have the experience and length of time served to advocate young men and women dying for your rebel yell

P.S. Will any of you grandchildren be put in the firing line ?

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 18:56

Posted by: b8mex (299) 

Getting back to the original thread and heading " Now Tony Blair get your finger out NOW">

Unfortunately Tony Bliar will be unable to "get his finger out" because his ego will deflate!!!

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 19:26

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

So, 'b8', your solution is ???

Do we send in the troops like Billy-tosser advocates ??

Or do we just give them spears and let them crack on man ?

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 19:29

Posted by: dizzy blonde (2132)

The suit, he probably deserted 'cos he was a merchantman and merchantmen can do as they please once they've served their time aboard. They 'jump' ship just as easily as you'd go for another job, 'cos it's just a job. Billy did say he saved us from the Nazis, which would make him in his early 80s at least, like my Dad, who was in the RN on the Western Approaches. Where were you Billy?

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 19:40

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

"Where were you Billy?"

Now THAT i'd like to hear !

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 19:47

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

But, add a 'when' as well please Billy (I get confused, never know when your 'on ship' or 'jumped ship') Cheers mate

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 19:52

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

lol, appears the 'war' got too hot, is Billy in Vancouver again ??

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 20:26

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Awwww, c'mon Billy, surely you have a history book you can reference ??

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 20:32

Posted by: b8mex (299) 

Mine was a political comment, not a solution to the current situation. I don't think that sending in troops is the solution and an economic embargo would only do us harm. So what do we do?

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 21:02

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

empy dear,you have me as a queen and a fool; you didnt read my post properly. In my haste I did not say "if I was you" before I mentioned taking kids pics off your profile; I did look at it - sorry dear! This is only my opinion, humble that it may be. BTW INTIMIDATE ME!!! not a bloody chance. In the words of a winner - calm down dear.
Back to the thread; my son is in the army, they are trained to the hilt for situations like these, they choose what they do for a living and we should either respect that or go and join them, not sit in our armchairs like the willies calling people pratts and latrines etc.

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:45

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:47
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Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:53
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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Who are the racists and sycophants then?

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:54

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

ts lol!!! agree

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:55

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Billy
JJ
Sea Monkey
and......er....YOU

(XRH fell by the wayside, bless)

you decide what catagory you fall into

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:56

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I fall into none of the categories.

Replied: 1st Apr 2007 at 23:59

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Actualy DD, I beg to differ, you are most certainly a sycophant, now, please, go away and PM your 'mates' and discuss how 'awful' I am (like you need me to tell you that !!!!!).....TTFN

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:01

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

I'm on my side !!

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:02
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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I sympathise with other members that feel they are being bullied. So that makes me a sycophant?

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:04

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

<quote>Emp likes to give the impression she speaks for all. Actually she speaks for a couple of racists and 2 sycophants.
</quote>
You got one of the numpty's in one.
ie: when quoting, include the full quote in your answer, not like the last one you accredited to me. That's "Numptyism"...Missing bits out. never mind, with a bit more experience & not idolising desperate deckhands....You'll learn...Good luck

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:05

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

agree arty; ship ahoy an all that!!

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:10

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:11
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Posted by: empress (9667) 

Whats a sperm whale got to do with all this? Did I miss something Mr Self Important Suit?

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:14

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Is somebody who jumps ship in a foreign country, not an "Illegal Immigrant"?
No legal right to be in the country of which they aren't a citizen

I'm afraid I dunno'. Perhaps someone would advise me

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:14

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:15
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Posted by: empress (9667) 

You been following members round forums again suit, picking bits out to slate them with again, aint it time you got a life of your own?

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:17

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

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Posted by: empress (9667) 

Is that an order? must I start calling you sir as well, get off ya moral high horse n get a life , you seem to be living other peoples suit, you need a hobby.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:19

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:20
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Posted by: empress (9667) 

get a hobby suit, try flower arranging.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:21

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

"No-one to PM at this time". I dont PM anyone.
Why are you so off with me just because its my nature to stick up for others when they feel that they are being got at.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:22

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:22
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Posted by: kb10975 (193)

ts emp is waiting for wee willy to get up and help her with the answer!!
Art I thought so tooo!!

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:23

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I do know what you mean.
No i dont advocate people collecting animal parts for display.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:25

Posted by: empress (9667) 

I'd like to display a certain body part of yours for sure suit.
kb who rattled your cage?

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:25

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Im off out of here.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:26

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

EMP; my cage isnt rattled dear.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:29

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Drunken Rant - Apologies

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:29
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Posted by: empress (9667) 

DD, he chased enough people out, don't quit just cos of that idiot.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:29

Posted by: kb10975 (193)

the suit - cover it up!!

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 00:31

Posted by: billy (26053) 

for the record
didnt actualy jump ship...missed said ship thro over indulgence of the hard stuff.
one occasion i walked off with three other crew members regarding conditions on board.
a couple of you guys, recently joined by another number, are always calling on others to lay out their records.
would be very interesting to see you do the same. ya already got rid of xrh, and you are well on course to push some more the same way(not me)at the end of the day, like the song says "whats it all about, alfie"you have yet to put up a post for discussion??you trawl the posts to show of your yob natures, and then ask us to believe you have served time in some army??served time in some nick from the tone of your posts.
not drunk...no apologies.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 09:55

Posted by: billy (26053) 

i propose we isolate these three musketeers. the three who constantly target other posters. how do we do it??easy, let them rant, totaly ignore their input, which is garbage anyway.they are slowly sinking this vessel, which before they came on the scene was as good as any site around. you will have noted the absense of xrh...and the aussie posters are becoming rare indeed these days.what do the play *****s get out of it???is it a disastrous home life they exist under? what the h*** drives these morons into the yob behaviour they display. answer that, and youve answered how to get our streets back, not to mention respectability.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 10:04

Posted by: bryn156 (193)

whats a lot of this pevious crap got to do with the hostage situation..enough said

Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 17:13

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

Now now Bryn, your not allowed to say 'nuff said

Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 17:20

Posted by: the_suit (inactive)

"the suit - cover it up!!" How do you mean KB ?

Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 17:48

Posted by: bryn156 (193)

They are all back safely,,,,HERE ENDETH THIS TOPIC. (Hopefully.)

Replied: 7th Apr 2007 at 02:18

Posted by: billy (26053) 

ya got that HUB CAPS. Smilies:
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Replied: 7th Apr 2007 at 15:35

Posted by: billy (26053) 

he knows ya know. Smilies:
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Replied: 7th Apr 2007 at 15:37

Posted by: wigan mix radio (7)

[edit] please stop spamming the boards.

Replied: 9th Apr 2007 at 17:28
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