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Started by: fedup (201)

Our supplier Eon wish me to pay an extra £63 per month to keep my account on track!!!!
Is this a symptom of this country's ridiculous management of our power supplies by successive Governments? We seem to buy in power from overseas or from foreign based providers rather than produce our own!
I hope it's not a result of the current ridiculous "Green agenda" whereby this current Government and PM seem to think we can stop "Climate Change"?
When will the idiots realise that it is a losing battle and instead of trying to " lead the world" we should be preparing for the changes that will undoubtedly come?
Their current efforts are as daft and probably as costly as HS2 (another vanity project!)
Civil unrest soon? It would not surprise me!

Started: 28th Sep 2021 at 16:33

Posted by: tomplum (8045) 

Fedup, Its the papershuffing , desk jocky, pen pushers who squeeze them selves between the , supplier and the consumer, this country has a disease of non working , blood sucking leeches, they bought loads of gas and promised to sell it to the consumer cheaper than the supplier, They came unstuck,
Work shy , jack the lads with, get rich schemes preying on the honest people, dick turpens without the mask, A product of , Education and modern life,
because, the only ' proper jobs are, in order of merit
Doctors, nurses, police firemen , Plumbers , turf and soil suppliers ,Bin men Tanker drivers and English corner shop keepers.
anyone else is a blood sucking leech,

Replied: 28th Sep 2021 at 21:57
Last edited by tomplum: 28th Sep 2021 at 22:00:13

Posted by: whups (7264) 

i was with e-on even when they were norweb . i got fed-up being ripped off with them so i changed supplier & i,m now with octopuss . best move i ever made .

Replied: 28th Sep 2021 at 23:41

Posted by: tomplum (8045) 

It has been brought to my attention today that, not all desk driving, pen pushers are blood sucking leeches, So to the pre planned funeral director who wants my money before I die, The , make a guaranteed £1000 a week china gold bond sales person and the , Virgin media tele sales Asian who needs me to press the button on my computer next to the windows key,
I'm sorry i was abusive to you on the phone, Please call back another time, To the honest working office staff at the Council who never answer a call i make but say, thank you for calling and I'm in a queue and am 15th in the line and My call is very important to them, Please forgive my bad language when my turn comes and the phone goes dead. I'm sure there is god un's somewhere amongst you , Like I know there are baby pigeons,, You just never meet them,
god bless you all,

Replied: 29th Sep 2021 at 22:37
Last edited by tomplum: 29th Sep 2021 at 22:39:36

Posted by: kathpressey (5375) 

whups. wasn't octopus one of the utilities that have gone bust?

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 08:39

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

These energy companies don't half have some stupid names

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 09:13

Posted by: whups (7264) 

no they wernt .

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 10:49

Posted by: PeterP (8914)

TTS there were over 70 gas companies so they needed a daft name to stand out from the rest

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 14:30

Posted by: peter g (2887) 

I've been switched to Octopus by AVRO are they expensive or any good

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:16

Posted by: whups (7264) 

i,m paying £ 74 for gas & leccy peter & it,s won best energy supplier the past 4 years . well worth a look .

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:18
Last edited by whups: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:24:29

Posted by: peter g (2887) 

I was Paying £51 just about to go up to £61 for both, whups before they went bust I've not been quoted a price by Octopus yet

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:29

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:55
Last edited by tonker: 30th Sep 2021 at 15:59:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Octapus
Dogfish
Catfish
Ratfish

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 16:34

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Forget 'how much a month' you pay. Find out the unit price and the standing charge.
These companies aren't "suppliers", like they say they are, they are merely 'billling' companies, Mr. 10%.

I fell out with British Gas, a couple of years ago, and went to one called "Bulb". I was talked into a 'monthly fixed price' account. £62 direct debit.
After two years at £62 a month I'm £283 in credit.
That means, to me, I'm paying too much.
So why have they told me my monthly price will be going up?

Bloody frauds!

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 16:56

Posted by: Stardelta (8704)

Isn’t the whole point of fixed price monthly debits to help people budget over the year…….yet here we all are moaning about the situation!!

If you aren’t happy go back to paying the bill off every month or every quarter.

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 17:17

Posted by: whups (7264) 

i called bulb too & they quoted me around £ 123 per month . i was with green star till they got bought out with shell & i was paying upto september £ 76 p.m then the new price rocketed to £110 was the lowest price they could give me even tho i was £125 in credit so i left . at todays current price if you can get it lower than £74 p.m then take it & hope they dont go bust . octopus has paid for it,s gas & leccy 12months in advance .

Replied: 30th Sep 2021 at 23:50

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

whups , Most people missed the boat by not changing or renewing their supply soon enough we were all told it was coming, I live in a 3 bed semi built 1984 that was given a British gas certificate for low energy usage and it is now paying off, I could have gone for a 12 month contract but paid a bit extra for V7 24 month with Zebra G--3.2 E--15.8 St--20.9 as Tonker said go for unit cost, no one ever puts their unit cost up WHY

Replied: 1st Oct 2021 at 12:49

Posted by: whups (7264) 

i,m a low user dougie which bears that out when my contract of £76 p.m i was in reciept of £125 credit at the end od the year & asked why they could only give me a contract of their lowest price of £110 . they owed me money at the end of the year on a £76 pm contract why would you put up the price by 36 quid a month ? , it doesnt add up ? .

Replied: 1st Oct 2021 at 15:09

Posted by: gaffer (6891) 

Wholesale gas prices up 250% since January.

Replied: 1st Oct 2021 at 16:56

Posted by: whups (7264) 

octopus has paid for theirs 12 months in advance .

Replied: 1st Oct 2021 at 23:42

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

So had Zebra that's why I paid the extra unit rate for two years till May 2023, only time will tell but keep your eye on Zebra for the future, as with Octopus you know the saying all that glitters is not gold or I would have changed in May 2021

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 11:26

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Dougie, I'm currently with Bulb.
Following your recommendation, here's my quote off Zebra :-

Zebra Fixed 24 Month Exclusive V10 Paper Billing
£137.33 Per Month
Save -£387.90 per year
Total annual cost: £1,647.90
Existing annual cost £1,260.00

Electricity

Our Tariff .......... Your Current Tariff

Tariff cost: £813.31 .......... £660.00
Standing Charge: 30 p/day .......... 28.74 p/day
Unit Price: 25.091 p/kWh .......... 19.789 p/kWh
Monthly Amount £67.78 .......... £55.00
Exit Fees: £30.00 .......... £0.00


Gas

Our Tariff .......... Your Current Tariff

Tariff cost : £834.58 .......... £600.00
Standing Charge: 28 p/day .......... 35.13 p/day
Unit Price: 6.181 p/kWh ........... 3.982 p/kWh
Monthly Amount £69.55 .......... £50.00
Exit Fees: £30.0 .......... £0.00


So, Dougie, it seems like changing to Zebra would cost me £387.90 per year!

I phoned 'Specsavers' and told the girl "I was recommended to go to you".
She said, "Sorry, we don't do gas and electric, only spectacles"!


Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 14:13

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

Posted by: tonker (23970)

"Forget 'how much a month' you pay. Find out the unit price and the standing charge."
The voice of sense. I'm in total agreement with that statement, Tonker
Does not matter how much payment a month a company wants off you its what they charge per kilowatt that you should be concerned about
Ive had one company go bust last December, Yorkshire Energy and they were cheap so Im not really surprised that they went bust. I got moved to Scottish Power by Ofgem but very swiftly changed suppliers to Outfox The Market when I saw the prices per kilowatt's For the record my payments dropped by £20 a month.

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 15:36

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Supplier name:: Outfox The Market.
Tariff name: Clean E Fix'd 15.0. Tariff type:
Electric Only - Fixed.
Payment method: Direct Debit.
Electricity unit rate: - 31.688p per kWh.
Electricity standing charge: - 23.502p per day.
Exit fees: N/A.
Tariff Term: 12 months


BULB - Electricity

Standing Charge: - 28.74 p/day
Unit Price: - 19.789 p/kWh

ZEBRA - Electricity

Standing Charge: - 30 p/day
Unit Price: - 25.091 p/kWh

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 15:53

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Stupid names for stupid companies .......

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 15:55

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

This is mine, Tonker.
Ive copied & pasted it from my account.

About your electricity tariff
Supplier Outfox The Market
Tariff name Spring 21 Variable
Tariff type Dual Fuel Only - Variable
Payment Method Direct Debit
Day Rate 15.693p per kWh
Night Rate 15.693p per kWh
Standing Charge 17.850p per day.

About your gas tariff
Supplier Outfox The Market
Tariff name Spring 21 Variable
Tariff type Dual Fuel Only - Variable
Payment Method Direct Debit
Unit Rate 2.406p per kWh
Standing Charge 21.000p per day

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 16:13

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

Are you saying I've made my Gas & electric cost up that I took out in May 2021 for two years fixed rate with Zebra Energy V7 , I posted this on another thread been with them about 4 years and it would have been cheaper if only going for 12 month

I'm going for the last man standing out of the small energy suppliers
Zebra Energy a Manchester supplier ,I know it's not the cheapest but it only costs me £56.46 per month, been with them last 3 years
Gas unit--3.22 Daily charge--20.95 End of contract -16/05/2023
Elec unit--15.78 Daily charge--20.95 End of contract -16/05/2023

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 17:34

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

No,Dougie,not at all.
What I'm sayingis - "the deals available NOW are different to the deal you got THEN.
Zebra is NOW dearer than Bulb

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 20:05

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

Posted by: dougie
"Zebra Energy a Manchester supplier ,I know it's not the cheapest but it only costs me £56.46 per month"

No it doesn't. It costs you by how much you use!
Don't fall into the trap of being conned by monthly estimated use!

Replied: 2nd Oct 2021 at 20:20

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

I renewed my contact with Zebra in May about 6 week before my previous two year contract was up with no exit fee, everyone knows it's worked out on the unit cost on top of any standing charge for Gas & Electric and we were all told months ago to keep your eye on it,
--I'll say it again I pay only £56.46 and as of today still £150 in credit

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 11:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Dougie

So are yoo one of these who goes around the house all day turning things off, you mean tight fisted sod

Yoo want to stick your hand in your pocket, and get some money spent, and live a little, and just remember that when yoo pop off, yoo can't take it (money) with yoo into the afterlife

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 11:21

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

TOM-HI, My not be the place for this but it's just for you,
pre planned funeral director who wants my money before I die,

Next time your out and about Haydock, Grange Valley area call in to the Funeral Director in the old church in Station Road have a look in and a word with them, He made my mined up on allot of things
No need to reply Tom

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 11:54

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

TTS, Yes tight fisted Dougie that's me from the old school but our house is like Blackpool Illuminations we can walk anywhere in the house without turning a light on or off after dusk till midnight (outside lights 11pm) all set on two adjustable time clocks all low energy bulbs, added together wouldn't equal 1x 60w bulb

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 12:19

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Even the moths have holes in their shoes, in Dougie's house!

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 17:15

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

I think my bills are going to go up, Tonker
I was on a variable tariff.
So I reckon I will be paying what you posted on the 2nd Oct 2021 at 15:53 on my next monthly bill

Replied: 5th Oct 2021 at 21:16

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

Ive just been dusted good style by my energy company. They want to up my direct debit by more than £50 per month and my direct debit payment will increase by £50 next month on my payment date. I'm well over £200 in credit.
Are they allowed to increase direct debit payments without my permission?

Replied: 20th Oct 2021 at 15:57
Last edited by cheshirecat: 20th Oct 2021 at 15:58:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Yes, if yoo agreed to that in your agreement with your energy company, yoo will have agreed to have a 'variable direct debit'

Look in't small print, 'terms and conditions' stuff

Replied: 20th Oct 2021 at 16:03

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

Thanks Tommy.
I knew I had a variable tariff which can go up and down but Ive never heard of a variable direct debit?

Replied: 21st Oct 2021 at 13:10

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Yoo have never heard of a 'variable direct debit'

Replied: 21st Oct 2021 at 13:33

Posted by: cheshirecat (230) 

No. And I'm serious!
I thought they could not alter the amount without my permission? I'll inspect the small print when I can see it! Bring back Norweb and Manweb, not the interweb, and pay cash every quarter.
Never had any trouble with that. Pay for what you use in the quarter. Not what they think you will use.

Replied: 21st Oct 2021 at 13:44

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Keep your hand on your halfpenny!

A couple of years ago, I discovered that I was paying two insurances on one of my cars.
I’d changed insurers, but one of them had got me on “automatic renewal” without me realising it.

THEY have the power!

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 14:05

Posted by: Platty (597)

Tonks, did you get your money back?

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 15:05

Posted by: admin (1029)

That's the problem with these automatic renewals Say you die and your wife doesn't realise that this automatic payment is taken out. It could go on for be years The automatic renewal should be on condition that they contact you before renewing it and they can't go ahead and renew the policy until they have heard back from you.

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 15:10

Posted by: Platty (597)

Admin: I thought they send a message to say when it's coming out of your account. I always check as soon as I've ordered that the automatic renewal is off.

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 15:22

Posted by: admin (1029)

Platty, I didn't' know you could switch the automatic renewal off? I'll have to check.

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 16:17

Posted by: sonlyme (2965)

yes you can admin.

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 16:47

Posted by: PeterP (8914)

I am with the AA for my house insurance when I took it out last year it was auto renewal but they have to contact you 2-3 weeks before renewal date which they did not only by E-mail but also by letter. On the letter it is printed that there is NO auto renewal . I am not staying with the AA but I will phone them nearer the renewal date and confirm there is No auto renewal. No company loyalty by me I shop around for everything when they are due.

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 17:21

Posted by: tonker (24197) 

Platty - "Tonks, did you get your money back?"

No, I didn't. They just said, "you agreed to autpomatic renewal and, therefore, cover has been in place ".

Replied: 25th Oct 2021 at 18:45

Posted by: PeterP (8914)

We are with Eon and pay £91 per month due for renewal end of Jan 22. Went on line to see what they are quoting now cheapest was £117 god knows what they will quote in January

Replied: 26th Oct 2021 at 09:46

Posted by: First Mate (395)

Replied: 26th Oct 2021 at 09:57
Last edited by First Mate: 26th Oct 2021 at 09:57:45

Posted by: PeterP (8914)

Bulb about to go bust

Replied: 30th Oct 2021 at 18:42

Posted by: broady (17423) 

We pay around fifty five pounds a month over twelve months for our gas. The heating is on now and will not go off until April / May. When we are out or on holiday we leave it at 19c and turn it up as necessary when we are in. in cold times we probably have it at 24c. It is false economy and suicide to turn the heat off.

Replied: 30th Oct 2021 at 20:31

Posted by: fossil (6914)

broady,We pay 80 pounds a month for combined gas and electricity and are well in credit at the moment but I think there will be an increase on the horizon!

Replied: 31st Oct 2021 at 21:06

Posted by: broady (17423) 

Our electric and water and sewage etc. are to the same company. That varies because of usage. In Summer , and this year was a hot,hot one we used the Irrigation almost daily. When we didn't use that we hosed all the plants daily.

Replied: 31st Oct 2021 at 21:22

Posted by: fossil (6914)

Broady having all your services like that is a bonus but won't change here.
I had a water meter fitted about 4 years ago and my water bills halved immediately,but they have lobbed another tenner a month on recently.

Replied: 31st Oct 2021 at 21:28

Posted by: ena malcup (227)

I would not, in any circumstances, let Eon have access to my bank account. They have shown themselves to have a predilection for grabbing cash belonging to their customers, and to which they are not entitled.

The 'Which' report, which their adverts suggests rates them highly, actually ranked the joint 22nd out of the twenty five suppliers compared!

Replied: 6th Nov 2021 at 14:50

Posted by: PeterP (8914)

Got an E-mail from Eon asking me to send them meter readings even thou I have Smart meters. I phoned them up and told them I don't know how to read the meters(I have read all the instructions on line to no avail) they said there was widespread faults with smart meters in AUGUST. Said it is now November they said it takes 90days to clear the fault They reset my meters and reduced my payment down from £91 to £69 and when I checked their quote that had been reduced by £10 a month?

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 09:31

Posted by: dougie (4712) 

Dougie's quote 2nd October 21, I'm going for the last man standing out of the small energy suppliers Zebra Energy a Manchester supplier ,

Zebra Power will stop trading on the 2th November and as from the 7th British Gas will be your supplier , so that's another one with 14,600 customers gone

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 09:37

Posted by: Platty (597)

Tonks - hasn't Bulb gone bust? 19 domestic fuel companies have gone bust over the last 4 months. Costs are due to get worse in April. When a company takes over customers from the bust companies, the new company has to go out and buy fuel for their new customers, such fuel price has rocketed as we've all seen. Ofgem has imposed a levy on all suppliers to share the cost of these companies baling out the busted ones and, I read, that the cost of that and the prices of buying the extra fuel is going to hit the consumer in April.
And of course the increase for the green loonacy.

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 10:25

Posted by: Billinge Biker (980) 

Wahey...!!!!! On the news toneet... My supplier BULB has joined the rest... Administration.... Cheeky buggers asked me this morning for a gas and electric reading... Which I sent this morning... They thanked me... Then toneet... They have gone to the wall.... At least my £195 of credit is protected.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 18:43

Posted by: lectriclegs (4472)

But they haven't gone to the wall, have they?

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 18:51

Posted by: ena malcup (227)

tomplum will be starting up a new business rigging old bikes as pedal powered generators, charging a couple of old car batteries. Like what they had in the film, 'Soylent Green'

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 18:56

Posted by: Billinge Biker (980) 

Well pray tell me clever Bottom.... Where have they gone?

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 19:10

Posted by: lectriclegs (4472)

Nowhere.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 19:15

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8329)

Tonkers lecky company Bulb, has gone into 'special administration' whatever that is, which I think means that leets on, buts there's nobody at home

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 19:53

Posted by: gaffer (6891) 

Expect Government support to keep Bulb solvent.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 19:54

Posted by: retep1949 (710)

I have read that too gaffer

Replied: 22nd Nov 2021 at 20:28

 

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