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Started by: gaffer (6577) 

Priti Patel shakes up antiquated work practices at Home Office

New rules being drawn up include the Home Secretary speaking with junior officials, and top civil servants undertaking performance reviews
By
Christopher Hope, Daily Telegraph.
CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
21 November 2020 • 9:00pm

The top ranks of the civil servants at the Home Office are to be shaken up in the wake of claims of bullying by Priti Patel, with officials forced to work some weekends and be subject to performance reviews.
New rules are also being drawn up to allow the Home Secretary to personally quiz junior officials who have the most up-to-date knowledge about the work of her department, The Telegraph understands.
The changes have been agreed between Ms Patel and Matthew Rycroft, the department's permanent secretary, in a bid to draw a line under the Whitehall probe into Ms Patel's behaviour.
A Whitehall report last week found that while Ms Patel's behaviour amounted to bullying in breach of the ministerial code, the civil service itself also "needs to reflect on its role during this period”.
It emerged this weekend that not one of the allegations had been put to Ms Patel, while she had never met or spoken to Sir Alex Allan, the Whitehall civil servant who carried out the eight-month investigation into Ms Patel.
Sources also confirmed that some civil servants complained if Ms Patel tried to contact them over weekends to ask for support if crises erupted.
One source said: "National security is not 9-til-5", adding that on some weekends Ms Patel had found that "she was driving the ship completely". They added: "That is changing."
A former adviser said: "The snowflakes in the civil service would regularly complain about working even five minutes more than their allotted hours.
"Their chief complaint appears to be having to work over a weekend when they’re on call, despite this being their job."
Under the new way of working, Ms Patel will be given a dedicated team of officials who she can lean on for support at weekends when other civil servants have gone home.
The top ranks of civil servants at the Home Office will be required to submit themselves to performance reviews.
The Home Office has agreed to allowing Ms Patel to question junior officials directly who might have day-to-day knowledge of a particular challenge, rather than relying on information fed through more senior officials.
One source said some civil servants had been "quite precious" about Ms Patel's attempts to speak to staff on the frontline of the Home Office's work.

Friends pointed to a history of previous Home Secretaries – such as Amber Rudd over the Windrush controversy – who had been unfairly forced out by the actions of civil servants.

Ms Patel last week said she was not being "supported" by her department at the time bullying allegations were made against her, but issued what she describes as an "unreserved, fulsome apology" for any upset she has caused.

Mr Rycroft said he and Ms Patel were "committed to working together to improve the Home Office and build the strongest possible partnership between Ministers and officials based on support, candour, safety to challenge, mutual respect and professionalism".




Started: 22nd Nov 2020 at 16:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Thank you gaffer.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 17:29

Posted by: riocaroni (46)

Don't know who I'd trust least, Boris or that coniving bitch!



Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 21:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Would yoo trust Keir and Nick

Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 22:02

Posted by: riocaroni (46)

To be honest not keen on Kier but would certainly trust him more than the Brady bunch who are in charge?

Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 23:09

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Why ?

Are yoo an inverted snob

Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 23:19

Posted by: riocaroni (46)

No, just a wiganer who hates Tories!

Replied: 22nd Nov 2020 at 23:23

Posted by: jarvo (29981) 

Well said, Rio.

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 08:18

Posted by: whups (5268) 

you ask hyperthetical questions 1stroke as labour arnt passing the laws are they . it just goes to show what you voted into office with the verdict overturned by johnson after he instigated the inquiery in the 1st place ? .

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 11:43

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Whupsy

I didn't vote them into office, the last time I voted Tory was in 2010 because I hated Gordon Brown, since then I have voted Yoo Kip and last year I voted for the Brexit Party.

In 2010 I very quickly regretted voting for David Cameron (3 weeks) and over the years like I have said umpteen times on these and other forums, I normally voted for a Looney, because there are always crackpots on the ballot sheet, who put themselves up for election.

On about bullying in the Conservative Party, well lets also talk about bullying in the Labour Party, in that how many Jewish MP's resigned because they were being bullied by antisemitic Labour Party members ?

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 12:14

Posted by: whups (5268) 

somebody did .if you voted brexit party you did vote tory as all their party was ex tories like farrage .

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 12:16

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Well whether they were ex Tories or Labour, or Loonies, we all had the same passion about leaving the EU, but now we have left the EU, the question is who am I going to vote for in the next General Election, because I can't see me voting for whatever the Brexit Party has become by then ....

Because yoo see Whupsy, I am a floating voter, and Labour has got in my reckoning, three years to persuade me to vote for them, because normally incumbent governments, both Labour and Conservative tend to go to the country after four years, because if they go into a fifth year of office, the incumbent government normally loses popularity

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 12:30

Posted by: grimshaw (2485) 

Spot on Rio .
Is that the same Patel who ,unbeknown to the then P M,visited Isreal and talked to isreali leaders about committing british money to help defend Isreal.
And was subsequently sacked .
Surely not .?

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 14:04

Posted by: Domin0 (128)

If you agree in allowing many more immigrants to come here, vote Labour.

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 14:17

Posted by: grimshaw (2485) 

Pray tell what that has to do with my question.?

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 14:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

And what 'question' is that ?

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 15:26

Posted by: firefox (3239)

#istandwithIsrael. Liabour are buffoons

Replied: 23rd Nov 2020 at 15:51
Last edited by firefox: 23rd Nov 2020 at 20:18:44

Posted by: firefox (3239)



Home Office was later accused of holding up the work and faced criticism for insisting it would remain internal.

"If Boris sacked Priti Patel she would have his job within 2 years.
Imagine the sort of man you have to be to whine about being bullied because you were being called out for covering up child rape.
She should keep bullying anyone who has an issue with exposing this horrendous problem."

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 11:34
Last edited by firefox: 24th Nov 2020 at 11:35:25

Posted by: whups (5268) 

i know your floating because your head has been floating for a long time . as far as the EU is concerned you will soon find out what this means when all the prices start to go up & eventually thru the roof . i,ll talk about the islamaphobia in the tory party if you want .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 11:38
Last edited by whups: 24th Nov 2020 at 11:39:14

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

whups talk about the torys stopping your insulin,as you claimed last december......... YOU BLITHERING IDIOT AND LIAR..

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 11:58

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Blithering idiot.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:02

Posted by: firefox (3239)

"i,ll talk about the islamaphobia in the tory party if you want ."

Will you 'talk' about child sex grooming by muslims?

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:08

Posted by: gaffer (6577) 

If Priti Patel was a Labour Home Secretary the left , including the BBC and Guardian would be calling the situation racist and misogynistic. The Home Office civil servants would be seen as a white male elite with privileged access to the top jobs in the civil service.
As a Tory Priti Patel is seen as a traitor by the left. They believe that she and all others from similar backgrounds should automatically be aligned to the Labour cause.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:10

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:13

Posted by: whups (5268) 

did,nt you put on here about trump failing to provide cheap insulin laughing boy . if you know the price of it then why are you lieing about it ? .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:38

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

what lies have i told about insulin? you lied saying folk would not get insulin when we left the EU! LIAR...

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 12:50

Posted by: firefox (3239)

I recall that very post.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 13:05

Posted by: riocaroni (46)

If Patel had been so concerned she would have been on the tele every news bulletin about this instead of covering up for Boris as well as all his other cronies!

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 13:25

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 13:39

Posted by: grimshaw (2485) 

Spot on rio .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:05

Posted by: whups (5268) 

for anyone who wants to know about laughing boy the liar the blog in question is on this page under joe biden blog aroung half-way down.he refers to trumps promise of cheap insulin which he did,nt come up with . i said that if trump got into our nhs the price of insulin would go up far & above what we can afford so if someone who asks a question on insulin & calls someone a liar then agrees that the american prices are to high is a lieing 2faced hypocrite isnt he ? .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:33
Last edited by whups: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:35:33

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Not spot on at all, ex soldier.
Actally, its nonsense.
Protocols must be adhered to.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:39

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

On about witch, wot has happened to all that roomer mongeraling. about the Yanks taking over our NHS and shutting it down

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:42

Posted by: grimshaw (2485) 

This patel woman isnt the same patel who worked on behalf of B A T as a P R consultant and encouraged smoking to boost profits and thus boosting her own income is she.?
Surely not .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:56

Posted by: whups (5268) 

1stroke they have had 6 meetings with big american drug companies 3 here & 3 over there . this was before covid & trump was insistant that any deals with the USA would have to include the NHS . the price of insulin over there is well documented & people are dieing as a result of not being able to afford it . why dont you google it ? .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 14:57

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

idiot everybody knows americans pay big money for healthcare they always have done! whats that got to do with you lying and telling folk if we leave the EU people WONT get insulin.... IDIOT...

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 15:26

Posted by: firefox (3239)

This hesketh man isn't the same man who claimed he served as a British Soldier in the trenches was he?
Surely not?

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 15:49

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Whupsy

OK I will Google it

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 15:55

Posted by: whups (5268) 

no i did,nt laughing boy i said we wont be able to afford it so we would have to go without & as usual you try to twist it in your favour you lieing 2 faced hypocrite .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 17:18

Posted by: whups (5268) 

1stroke then you can come back on here & tell us how much it is for 1 pen , i need 10 per month . so reckon that up over a year ? .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 17:19

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

whups the LIAR i'll prove your a liar right now, we left the EU in january how much have you paid for insulin since we left? you have admitted above you would not be able to afford insulin when we left the EU...LIAR..

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 18:11

Posted by: grimshaw (2485) 

Tremendous stuff firefox.
Clearly a front runner for post of the year.
Its obvious you are a person of great intellect and not least eloquence .
All i can do is stand back and admire your prowess.
Absolutely fabulous .
Pray keep up the good work .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 18:11

Posted by: firefox (3239)

You can keep lying about being in the military, but everyone knows you lied.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 18:43

Posted by: cheshirecat (59) 

If I was patel's boss I would have my secretary preparing her cards. No place for bullying anywhere. Especially in the work place.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 20:31

Posted by: broady (16460) 

When does a bolloc**** become bullying? I have been shouted and sworn at but never played the BULLYING card. If I thought it undeserved then I would have argued the point. On reflection I probably deserved most of them. Certainly didn’t keep me awake at nights.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 20:50

Posted by: cheshirecat (59) 

So have I.
Maybe they didn't deserve the treatment?
She is not denying anything is she?
She was apologising unreservedly on the tv.
That speaks volumes.
At least she did apologise. Unlike cummings who denied everything and made excuses and thought he was untouchable.
Look where he ended up.

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 21:05
Last edited by cheshirecat: 24th Nov 2020 at 21:07:19

Posted by: whups (5268) 

laughing boy all people need to do is to take a look at your reply to chatty on the sport blog to see for themselves who,s the biggest liar on here as i,m sure grimshaw & chatty will attest too . you cant prove a thing only of your own lies as seen on the joe biden blog on this page .

Replied: 24th Nov 2020 at 23:59

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

how much do you pay for insulin whups? come on dont be shy tell wigan world... LIAR....

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 00:47

Posted by: whups (5268) 

wot the hell r u talking about . i get it on the nhs you dummy but if they strike a deal with the yanks we will all pay . but you know this & it,s just another ruse to take the spotlight off you being the biggest liar on here & it,s pretty obvious your not reading any of my posts . LIAR

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 01:36
Last edited by whups: 25th Nov 2020 at 01:40:05

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

but you said when we leave the EU you would not be able to afford it! you were lying..and its all but but but with you never facts..

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 04:11

Posted by: PeterP (8232)

When we have a general election and the powers that be change only some of the heads of the civil service change. The main part of this vast institution are the same people and are living in the past wanting to work 9 till 5 Mon -Fri and the 1hour for dinner. Nothing happens outside these hours (they want to come into the real world)and this is why P Patel is trying to update every thing.

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 10:58

Posted by: whups (5268) 

you are still that stupid that you cant grasp the fact that what i,m saying is in the future can you . it just goes to show what you are all about kellys dad & stupid is as stupid are . but we do have a ray of light , joe biden who,s a union man & hates johnsons,s guts.

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 11:47

Posted by: gaffer (6577) 

He first ran for president in 1988 keeping his campaign centrist and vague to appeal to the majority of American voters.
But his dream fell apart when he was accused of plagiarising some of his speeches including most famously a debate in Iowa where he lifted large sections of then Labour leader Neil Kinnock’s “1,000 generations” speech.
Biden, channelling Kinnock, told the crowds: “Is it because I'm the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?” He also pointed to his wife in the crowd just as Kinnock did.
Biden later would take the blame for his mistakes during the campaign. “All I had to say was 'Like Kinnock.' If I'd just said those two words, 'Like Kinnock,' and I didn't. It was my fault, nobody else's fault,” he said.
‘I’ve done some dumb things and I’ll do dumb things again.

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 12:08

Posted by: TerryW (6033)

I wouldn't call an IRA sympathiser a "ray of light". He doesn't like the British and protestants even less. Danger signs are already flashing up with this old stooge going off his remarks on the Irish border and veiled threats of trade deals with Britain. He should mind his own business and deal with his own country.

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 12:33

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

whups all i'm saying is you skriking before your hurt you keep scaremongering saying this is going to happen thats going to happen without any real proof!,you said boris was working with trump to sell the nhs,well trumps gone now! until it happens stop BLOODY WORRYING and if it does all the worrying wont change anything anyway...

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 12:43

Posted by: whups (5268) 

who said biden supported the IRA ? .

Replied: 25th Nov 2020 at 23:58

Posted by: broady (16460) 

"Joe Biden's foreign policy belongs to a past era ... and described the IRA as “the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland”. On Google. Been pictured with Gerry Adams. Catholic family from Southern Ireland. Left during potato famine. Good chance eh???

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 00:09

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 03:41

Posted by: berylh (2036)

I would certainly trust Pritti Patel over those civil servants who just seem to want to rule things themselves and will appear to do anything to undermine the those in power whoever they may be. I once heard that Maggie Thatcher once said that there was more truth in 'Yes Minister' than could be imagined

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 09:23

Posted by: whups (5268) 

they are a legitimate body & they had meets with our government & mcguiness shook the queens hand if you,ve all forgotten .

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 11:40

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Vermin

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 13:39

Posted by: broady (16460) 

Forgot you are of Irish descent.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:06

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

That is why he is always 'acting mick'

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:17

Posted by: TerryW (6033)



The old whore in the middle is Rita O'Hare who attempted to murder a British WO in Belfast, she was an IRA explosives smuggler and was wanted for wounding and possession of firearms. Halitosis Adams we all know.

"The notoriously gaffe-prone ex-senator sparked fury the year before when he quipped to an Irish delegation that no one 'wearing orange' was welcome in his house on St Patrick's Day, a comment seen as a slur against Protestants."

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:24

Posted by: gaffer (6577) 

Yes Broady he’s a descendant of the Ó Scolaidhes to give them their Gaelic name.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:34

Posted by: TerryW (6033)

"mcguiness shook the queens hand if you,ve all forgotten ."

It was her job to do so, not for one minute did anyone think she wanted to after they murdered her husbands uncle Lord Mountbatten.

McGuiness didn't last long did he. Oh how I danced a jig on hearing the news.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:35

Posted by: whups (5268) 

thought i was on ignore broady ? .and it wasnt her job to do so & if it was they must be a legitimate party .

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 14:56

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

The political side of the IRA Sinn Féin is/was a legitimate political party.

So in regard to brutality, was there any difference between the Catholic and Protestant paramilitaries, or were they both as nasty as each other ?

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:08

Posted by: TerryW (6033)

It was her job as Monarch, she was doing what was needed for the peace process.

TTS. Sinn Fein is part of the same terrorist organisation, legitimate or not. It had nothing to do with religion in all reality.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:32

Posted by: broady (16460) 

Not been on ignore for a while. Just choose not to comment on your posts. Content to watch LG debate with you. Are you still in denial about your Irish heritage?

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:41
Last edited by broady: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:42:23

Posted by: whups (5268) 

lg you mean kellys dad dont you . hav,nt you had some run-ins with him.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:43

Posted by: broady (16460) 

Of course I have. Who hasn’t? However I don’t obsess with him. His ramblings about United are part and parcel of the sports page.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 15:54

Posted by: whups (5268) 

sometimes they are pretty vile & you cant help but get involved . chatty seems to have his measure tho.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 16:01

Posted by: jarvo (29981) 

Lighten up, Bill.

What's up, lad? You running out of money?



Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 16:01

Posted by: broady (16460) 

Still plenty in both countries. Not been able to spend any this year. Passport full of dust. Ah well. Could be worse. I’m looking forward to Wigan stuffing Saints tomorrow. Four Christmas trees in place. Last one today. Merry Christmas. COME ON WIGGIN.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 16:11

Posted by: whups (5268) 

i agree broady.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 16:26

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

TerryW:

"TTS. Sinn Fein is part of the same terrorist organisation, legitimate or not. It had nothing to do with religion in all reality"

I am not on about the 'religious' aspect of the troubles, I am just using the religion as a quick way of naming the two sides in the conflict, the Catholics wanting to be part of Ireland, and the Protestants wanting to remain part of the United Kingdom.

Replied: 26th Nov 2020 at 17:28

Posted by: whups (5268) 

did you google the price of insulin in the USA ? .

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 00:01

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Are you IN the USA?

Here's news to wet your knickers, Gates and Bezos are working with the NHS

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 06:19

Posted by: gaffer (6577) 

The Amazon pharmacy business will start selling Insulin across the US shortly. Members can expect discounts that will put it near to European prices.

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 08:51

Posted by: laughing gravy (6713)

gaffer whens shortly? trumps been saying for months cheap insulin ect is on the way?...

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 09:16

Posted by: gaffer (6577) 

LG

No doubt Amazon will issue a press release when the refrigerated distribution chain is set up.

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 10:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6327)

Whupsy said:

"I know your floating because your head has been floating for a long time . as far as the EU is concerned you will soon find out what this means when all the prices start to go up & eventually thru the roof I'll talk about the islamaphobia in the tory party if you want"



independent.co.uk/labour-party-islamophobia-muslims-keir-starmer

Replied: 27th Nov 2020 at 14:13

Posted by: firefox (3239)



Muslims use islamophobia in any way they can to get their cult protected.

Replied: 28th Nov 2020 at 06:19

Posted by: albion (268)

why do Muslims only want to wear black do they love death.

Replied: 28th Nov 2020 at 11:35

Posted by: TerryW (6033)

Yes Christians deaths.

Replied: 28th Nov 2020 at 13:42

 

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