big rumour

Started by: farrie50 (1710) 

i have just been told that Saracens have tabled a £2 000 for the services of BOTH the Tomkins boys anybody else heard of this?

Started: 7th Oct 2011 at 15:44
Last edited by farrie50: 7th Oct 2011 at 15:45:19

Posted by: broady (18323) 

Two million. Let them go!!!!

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 15:47

Posted by: curly (1064)

Farrie just been told similair about Joel no mention of Sam believe he is on his way.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:05

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 

what for £2 000 000 ?

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:08

Posted by: curly (1064)

Not heard out about money side.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:09

Posted by: fossil (7537)

It has been on the forums about Joel for a few days!

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:11

Posted by: fossil (7537)

It has been on the forums about Joel for a few days!

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:11

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 

gotta expect this type of thing now with the money in union nowadays

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:13

Posted by: fossil (7537)

I think the salary cap needs adjusting,or everyone with talent will go!
Unfortunately contracts mean nowt to sportsmen these days

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:16

Posted by: broady (18323) 

Presumably the only good thing about contracts is that you can get a fee from whoever wants to sign your players.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:21

Posted by: curly (1064)

If you increase the salary cap the game cannot stand it and it would be 1 team domination again. We don't want that time to help clubs that want Rugby League likes of Leigh Oldham Swinton York Rochdale.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:25

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 

money is no good if under the current rules you cant spend it

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:26

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

Farrie you want to stop listening to the gossip in Sams; there is a salary cap in RU as well

That said it would take a lot less than 2 million to prise them away

Contracts count for NOTHING in sport today – if a player wants to go, he goes!

Remember Ferguson saying Ronaldo was going nowhere?

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:33

Posted by: fossil (7537)

Who is helping Leigh then Curly?
Not the rugby league ,they have just docked 10 grand off next years rations!

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:34

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

the RFL had reduced the amount to Championship clubs to 90,000 from 100,000 ,because the money came from the t.v. rights from sky, and sky next season have washed their hands of Championship rugby league, I think that the clubs in super league may have had a hand in the reduction somewhere. but the R.F.l. have enough money to give more assistance to Championship clubs but they dont want to help, Leigh,Barrow,Oldham,Featherstone,Halifax,Swinton etc etc only the johnny come latelys like Crusaders, and Gateshead,

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:44

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 

wigvet werent from Sams from a fella at work

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:44

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

Iv'e just been talking to Elvis in Leigh market, he knows nowt about this tomkins rumour he reckons.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:47

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 

speaking of Sams our darts capt Gareth last Monday threw 119 darts in his gameand WONany body beat this?

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:50

Posted by: fossil (7537)

Aye Ray Charles

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:51

Posted by: farrie50 (1710) 


Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:53

Posted by: broady (18323) 

Must have thro some shoe leather.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 16:53

Posted by: saintpat (786)

i dont blame them if they go to union it must be terrible for sam to be booed especially by his home town fans ive heard the fans say we do it so that it will stop other fans booing him what kind of mentality is that ive also heard fans say oh he loves it he laps it up oh yeah i can just see him liking it

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 18:16

Posted by: broady (18323) 

They only have to look at Chris Ashton this last few weeks. Performing on the world stage. League is a better game but that doesn't pay the bills when your career is over.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 18:29

Posted by: fossil (7537)

Seems like they prefer to leave when they are 19 or 20 now Bill,they go for the better job!
I don't blame them one bit,they need to address the problem in rl of the young lads being paid a decent wage.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 19:41

Posted by: fordie (724)

Just heard at the same place Billy Slater is on his way to Wigan.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 20:36

Posted by: fossil (7537)

Is he on East enders

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 21:56

Posted by: baker boy (15613)

lets face it football"stars "get a great deal of money rugby lads dont, they deserve to be paid well you cant blame em if they do move looking after no 1 and the family aint a bad thing.good luck to both lads.

Replied: 7th Oct 2011 at 23:38

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

The salary cap needs adjusting to stop RU cherry picking our players.

Replied: 8th Oct 2011 at 07:17

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

The salary cap should always be kept pro rata to that of Union instead of it going wider apart.

Replied: 8th Oct 2011 at 09:31

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


When all the doggy noises started aginst Joel Monaghan over his incident with a dog, the Warrington fans countered with dog chants of their own and still do.

No different then some of the Wigan fans doing the same kind of thing to Sam who justs regards it as pantomine booing and is not offended by it.

It's the idiotic element at Leeds that needs sorting out.

Replied: 8th Oct 2011 at 14:12

Posted by: baker boy (15613)

ruddy do you mean rl hq cos their a reet set of idiots.

Replied: 8th Oct 2011 at 22:47

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

baker boy

The Leed's supporters, but as you mention it, the RFL as well.

Lewis, Wood and Cummings should all be sacked for the mess they have made of our game.

As Lewis is from down south, it makes you wonder if he is a Trojan Horse!

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 07:30
Last edited by ruddy duck: 9th Oct 2011 at 08:40:50

Posted by: saintpat (786)

ruddy duck because warrington did it doesnt mean its working at wigan and i dont think hes treating it as pantomine booing lets face it the lad cant come out and say he doesnt like it most poeple saw his face when they came onto the pitch at the homecoming and he lifted the cup up to the fans and they started booing he then put the cup down and turned away we all said that was disgusting you can say until your blue in the face that he loves it but most fans say its gone on long enough maybe at first he saw it as a laugh but some poeple dont know when to stop

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 13:53

Posted by: shoue (427)

i think the booing has affected his game its gone past a joke

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 14:44

Posted by: gaffer (7172) 

Today's Sunday Times carries a piece with Sam Tomkins as a possible England player for the next RU world cup.

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 15:04

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


At the play off games it had declined a bit by home supporters but not by Saints supporters, especially when Sam was defending at the North Stand end.

I agree with you, its time it was ended,but will it by opposing supporters.

I think not, especially at Leeds.

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 15:45

Posted by: saintpat (786)

ruddy duck leeds fans will always find a reason to boo but i think sam will take that but not from home supporters i think he will be better knowing home fans dont boo any more

Replied: 9th Oct 2011 at 18:18

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

you could be 'half-right' Farrie if this press release is to be believed

Monday 10 October 2011 10:20

JOEL Tomkins is the target of a shock switch to rugby union.

English giants Saracens – coached by Warriors legend Andy Farrell – are preparing a lucrative offer for the Warriors centre after identifying him as the next league star who could make an impact on the 15-a-side game.

It is unclear whether Tomkins wants to switch codes. But if the academy-product decides to leave, Sarries would almost certainly have to pay a fee – earlier this season Tomkins signed a new five-year deal which runs until the end of 2015.

The interest from union emerged just three weeks after Tomkins and his younger brother Sam joined top management company James Grant in a move which also saw their Wigan-based agent, Andy Clarke, land a consultancy role with the firm.

England RU and ex-Warriors star Chris Ashton – another of Clarke’s clients – also linked-up with James Grant.

Tomkins is a close friend of Ashton – they were class-mates at St John Fisher High and progressed through the Warriors ranks together – and has seen how his profile and income have rocketed since he left Wigan to switch codes.

Rumours that both the Tomkins brothers were on union’s radar have rumbled for weeks. Sam was even named in a fictitious England 2015 World Cup team in the Sunday Times yesterday.

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 10:51
Last edited by wigvet: 10th Oct 2011 at 10:52:02

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

and he's now made himself 'unavailable' for England the four nations and the speculation continues

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 13:09

Posted by: baker boy (15613)

well hes a good broken field runner and he does,nt know when to part with the ball he,ll excel in ru

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 13:48

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

Plenty of other good young players coming through the Academy, so why worry?

As long as the Warriors get a big compensation deal and transfer fee, let him go.

No player is bigger then the club!

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 19:22

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

Tomkins is a close friend of Ashton - and has seen his profile rise and income rocketed'

A profile which has included getting drunk and abusing a young New Zealand girl on the Jolley Boy's outing to the Rugby Union World Cup.

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 19:32

Posted by: fossil (7537)

I doubt it!

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 20:50

Posted by: tuddy (1204)

Why would an RU team want a fast poweful centre? as soon as the ball gets to the stand off its booted into the stands.

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 22:23

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

There are two reasons why the top prospects will abandon rugby league, money and the international stage.

I fear for the forthcoming ‘Four Nations’ at what crowds it will draw especially the double header at Wembley on bonfire day – what a cock up!

Rugby League will survive because it is by far the better spectator sport, but in what guise?

But the RFU, with millions behind them, will after the debacle down under be drawing up an action plan for the next World Cup in 2015 which is being held here in England
That plan will no doubt involve the recruitment of any outstanding rugby league talent

Difficult times lie ahead for the ‘greatest sport’ – does Rugby League have the strong leadership in place to take it through the storm?

Replied: 10th Oct 2011 at 23:02

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


Ashton would never be still at Wigan as he set his stall out to use the Warriors as a showcase for himself to get into Union.

Could hardly make a name for himself at Orrell, Wigan or Aspull rugby union clubs could he?

In his short spell at Wigan, he was seen by many supporters as being on the selfish side and a glory hunter.

As for the great game of rugby union, look outside the top two divisions and you will find that their smaller club's are struggling like those in rugby league. Why do think it is that they allow rugby league clubs to rent their grounds for games?


Rugby League will also never get the publicity like Union because the media is controlled by the 'old school tie' who went to schools where 'Rugger is the game. You only have to look at the BBC who in a recent episode of the television programme 'Waterloo Road' had kids playing Union in a school which is supposed to be set in the traditional League town of Rochdale where to my understanding the schools mainly play League. Even the non Rugby town of nearby Chorley play League in the schools.

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 08:32
Last edited by ruddy duck: 11th Oct 2011 at 09:19:43

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

And now Johnny Lomax has pulled out of the ‘four nations’

Another talent going or simply an injury?

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 11:59

Posted by: kenny (inactive)


Disagree with you about O'loughlin,he was,and still is one of the top tacklers in the game,shows a decent turn of pace,and a very good ball distributor,coz he's not in the "Tomkins or Leuluai" position he dosnt get ALL the recognition he should

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 14:16

Posted by: fossil (7537)

O'Loughlin is an exceptional player who it seems has been playing with an injury for a while,I agree with Kenny

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 15:15
Last edited by fossil : 11th Oct 2011 at 15:46:54

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

O'Loughlin is one of the best players in Rugby League and a credit to the Wigan club!

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 15:17

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


Were you one of the people who said the same about his dad in the seventies with the result that he went to Widnes?

Replied: 11th Oct 2011 at 18:14

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

But FC United do with their plan to play in Newton Heath!

Replied: 12th Oct 2011 at 07:35


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