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Started by: laughing gravy (7226)

have started the destruction of football as we know it

Started: 18th Apr 2021 at 20:08

Posted by: Don GB (139)

I agree LG, I have no desire to see this happen.

However, it will make little difference to the armchair "fans". They will still watch the games on T.V. pretending that they "support" their team, irrespective of who they play.

They can't be bothered going to to a game now in trafford so why worry about going to one in Madrid?

Replied: 18th Apr 2021 at 20:21
Last edited by Don GB : 18th Apr 2021 at 20:24:22

Posted by: sonlyme (2823)

lockdown has shown that the game is nothing without fans.as a season ticket holder of a premier league club i dismay that owners could contemplate this.Who can afford to travel abroad to support their team every other week.

Replied: 18th Apr 2021 at 20:29

Posted by: Don GB (139)

Lockdown has actually shown that the game doesn't need fans.

The clubs haven't really missed you and me this season sonlyme.

The miniscule percentage of revenue that matchdays provide compared with sponsorship and TV rights will only become less significant.

As for travelling fans, you need only look at Spain where very few fans travel away to see that the product is only slightly diluted with only home fans at games.

Replied: 18th Apr 2021 at 20:35
Last edited by Don GB : 18th Apr 2021 at 20:36:18

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Storm in a tea cup, nothing will happen all a ploy to squeeze more consessions from the present set up.
I do find it comical all the same that the bloke whos club struggle to get people in anytime having a pop at United concerning who turns up.

Replied: 18th Apr 2021 at 21:26

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

storm in a bath...they've all signed!

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 00:13

Posted by: peter g (2625) 

Purple face Ferguson said he doesn't think Man U are part of it Liar

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 13:57
Last edited by peter g: 19th Apr 2021 at 16:23:35

Posted by: grimshaw (2663) 

S A F commented that he was NOT consulted regarding the proposed break away even though he is a utd ambassador .
I would be certainly prepared to believe his version rather than anyone else .

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 16:18

Posted by: peter g (2625) 

I don't like Gary Neville but I agree with him on this one.

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 16:25

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Sir Alex's actual quote was;
ā€œIā€™m not sure Manchester United are involved in this, as I am not part of the decision making process.ā€

Which was attributed to him nearly 24 hours ago so not long after the initial news broke and it looks like it was news to him as well, he'd have no reason to lie about it if he did know.
So rather than showing disrespect and letting your bitterness get in the way by putting the greatest manager of all time in the spotlight just because he knocked your lot off your "F...ing perch" why don't you have a closer look at your own Yankee owners who have also signed up to it!

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 16:37
Last edited by chatty: 19th Apr 2021 at 16:39:01

Posted by: grimshaw (2663) 

V well said chatty....
I would imagine you saw Gary Nevs comments on sky this evening when he lambasted the american owners of utd - i cant bring myself to name them - calling them scavengers .
What would be your take on that chatty.?

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 20:32

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

still suckholin then scumbag....

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 20:49

Posted by: grimshaw (2663) 

Same old Same old knobwobbler

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 20:54

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1686)

It will give the crappy little teams like wolves a chance to win something

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 21:03

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Nothing but a money grabbing exercise by the greedy trying to pull up the drawbridge behind them.
This just about sums it up:
Joel Glazer... "By bringing together the worlds greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season the Super League will open a new chapter for European football ensuring world class competition and facilities.."
I doubt the bloke would know a world class player if he fell over one, and.. "worlds greatest clubs" ...three of those signed up from these shores have never won the competition they want to lock themselves into never to drop out.(And that seems to be the thing that has caused the biggest reaction and rightly so).
But who are the big 6?
Spurs haven't won the League for 60 years
Not that long ago Everton and Villa were considered big 6, just over a decade ago City wouldn't even have got a mention.
I still don't think it will happen though and they'll come back into the fold and have more money thrown at them.
It is more or less a Super League already in some respects with the same suspects (usually) at the top end each year give or take, and today one of the proposals from the Champs League was for a team who had not qualified being allowed in due to their coefficiant, so it was slowly turning into a closed shop anyway!


Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 21:16

Posted by: whups (5802) 

peterg wot do you think on the liverpool exec pulling out of the euro panel he sits on ? . i agree chatty & ed woodwood shud resign a.s.a.p . armchair fans will no doubt turn off sky because the premier league will be a devalued league & the reason fans wont go to these games is purely because of the huge expence of it . and 0yrs ,oh i forgot don gb shud have listened to the city supporters today on the news reports ? .

Replied: 19th Apr 2021 at 23:57
Last edited by whups: 20th Apr 2021 at 01:36:05

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Don't worry about o years whups he's done himself a thick un when it comes to these debates by pretending he can't see our posts.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 07:11

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

i wonder what uniteds trophy haul looks like should they be chucked out of the PL and their 13 titles given a asterisk,or worse still erased from the record books be careful what you wish for..

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 09:06

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Nonsense the PL aren't in a position to chuck anybody out.
They will be lucky if Sky offer them two and six for people to watch matches like Burnley V Fulham if they did.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 09:45

Posted by: whups (5802) 

i also wonder about city,s trophy haul under the same rules ? . and dont forget liverpool in this ..

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 11:40

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

Whups they can only take one off Liverpool it won't make much difference to them they'll be eons ahead of United's 7 1st Division titles...

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 12:05

Posted by: whups (5802) 

dont be stupid they will take them all . every title wether or not it was in the old 1st division will go to make an example of them & the same goes in europe too .

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 12:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6987)

I agree with Chatty

It is 'blackmail'

And I watched an interview with main mon at F.C. United, Adrian Seddon, on the BBC, in which he explained how F.C. United came into being when the Glazers took over Manchester United, disgruntled United fans formed FC. United.

https://twitter.com/FCUnitedMcr/status/1384448705793777671?s=20

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 12:27

Posted by: frecky (177)

Apparently, according to the news the govt may bring legislation to stop this ......

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 13:24

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

take a bow gary neville iv'e always liked him as a pundit,hes not letting this go and has said as much credit where credits due..

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 13:49

Posted by: peter g (2625) 

Whups he should pull out its a disgrace to all supporters

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 14:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6987)

Yoo should listen too Chatty, it is just a ploy

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 14:16

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

just a ploy? the damage is already done...

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 14:55

Posted by: grimshaw (2663) 

In my veiw its being used as leverage to extract more sovs from say sky for the P L product.
The so called big six have been banging on for long enough that they dont get enough from the P L .
Its dipping feet in the water and see how hot or cool it is I M O .
I am no fan of the dippers but i was impressed by Jurgen K last evening regarding his words on sky.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 15:38

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3538) 

Hi Frecky;; I would assume it is utterly illegal for any government to interfear with free enterprise ..

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 16:24

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3538) 

Again i have to say that i believe these clubs WILL SUCCEED in leaving the premier league , when one just takes a serious look into the main BACKER which happens to be J.P.MORGAN, who's personal wealth is around $40 BILLION DOLLARS , again look into what happened with NRL and Baseball,Ice hockey they are all under the umbrella of the very rich and famous.. It's happening now and it will be next season ,,if not the coming season just watch this space ...........GB.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 16:34

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Erasing the record books is nonesensical, it has already been done and dusted in happier times.
And anyway the Football League didn't do anything to their records when the Premier League came along and gazumped them.
But there is growing noise to expel the remaining renegades still left in this seasons Champions League.
That's Real Madrid Chelsea and erm........City, just saying like.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 19:05

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Breaking news, just been reported on Talksport that Chelsea and City are having second thoughts and may abandon the plan.
The house of cards will collapse now!

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 19:30

Posted by: Don GB (139)

City have taken the correct moral decision and decided not to join the American organised Greed Cartel.

So the English clubs left are a club who haven't won anything of note for almost a decade, a club who hasn't won anything of note for many decades, a club who hasn't won anything of note for almost two decades, and a club who although recently successful have slipped out of the top four after a brief couple of seasons at the top.

No self interest there then!

Well done City, once again the standard bearer for all that is good in football!

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 19:51
Last edited by Don GB : 20th Apr 2021 at 19:54:11

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Decided not to join?
They signed on the dotted line like the rest of them, but when they were told they would be getting dumped out of the competition they are desperate to win to try and show that they are a big club their arse dropped.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 19:59

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

spot on don to admit your mistakes makes you a better person..

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:00

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

chattys seething knowing his scumbag club was the first to sign and he knows damn well the greedy bustards will be be the last to leave...football fan my RINGPIECE!

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:04

Posted by: Don GB (139)

OH NO!!!!!

Edwoodwardeardwoodedward has fallen on his sword.

Now trafford might actually get someone competent in.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:06

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Only to be expected of City I suppose.
Perinneal bottlers in the big cup, and when they were told what was going to happen to them they bottled it again.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:09

Posted by: Don GB (139)

trafford about to implode after their Greed Cartel dissolves.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:09

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

well that rules chatty out...

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:10

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

I think the incompetent one's are your Arabs.
They took over your club to try and wash their reputation and they've ended up covered in sh"te.
We already knew what the Glazers were about.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:16

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

yet you continued to put money in their pockets JUDAS!

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:19

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

Spent Billions trying to sportswash their reputation then end up getting covered in the brown stuff from head to toe for a few extra million in a Super League.
That's some own goal certainly up there with Tommy Hutchinsons in the 81 Cup Final.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:32

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

JUDAS! has your scumbag club come out yet?

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 20:39

Posted by: grimshaw (2663) 

The likes of the berties have a nerve to even think they are worthy of joining a super league .
Minor club playing at a sh.te hole of a gound until the arabs pitched up .
Win the odd p l title and think they are the knobs forgetting they havnt won a euro cup since adam was a lad .
Having to rent the ground .
Struggle to fill the ground even when top euro teams come calling in the C L .
Fined for financial misdoings .
An embarrasment to the city of M C .
Big club my arse .

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 21:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6987)

I said that Chatty was right

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 21:10

Posted by: Don GB (139)

Hilarious Grim, you can see your club's empire disintegrating around your ears and all you can do is call liddle siddy to deflect from their enormous woes.

trafford need to create a closed shop cartel whilst they still have a modicum of credibility in the game. They are slipping further down the pecking order in all the traditional competitions and anyone under thirty doesn't remember when they were relevant.

As someone rightly said, trafford wanting to be in an elite super league these days is akin to me walking into the Crucible and putting 50p down on the table.

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 21:10
Last edited by Don GB : 20th Apr 2021 at 21:11:59

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

I think it was Agnelli the Juventus bloke who said the other day, "the new Super League will consist of 15 clubs who have won nearly 100 European trophies between them"......can anyone spot who was the imposter in that League then?

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 21:46

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

hang your head in shame with your greedy scumbag club JUDAS!

Replied: 20th Apr 2021 at 21:53

Posted by: whups (5802) 

i,m so glad that idiot woodward has resigned & united are out of that joke league now all we want now is the glaziers to sell up .

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 00:00

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

I said that Chatty was right

I'll tell you what I was right about TTS and I've been saying it for years;
Beware of Arabs bearing gifts.
Sick of hearing about what City are doing for the community, East Manchester this, new whatever that!
But yet again their mask has slipped and shown it really is all about them grubby selves.
Now the only right and proper thing to do is award PSG this seasons Champs League without another ball being kicked
The only one of the semi finalists left in the comp who did the honourable thing and didn't join "the club"
(The fact one of the PSG directors is also a director of the TV channel Bein sports so was against the new set up and stood to lose a fortune if the Super league did get going can be overlooked on this occasion)
When push came to shove the Arabs showed their true colours( yellow) and bottled it when told they would not be able to compete in the competition you can smell their desperation to win, and they caved in.

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 06:59

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

not one word as yet about the ringleaders and founders of this "GRUBBY CLUB" from the chap who's mask has slipped! he has accused me on more than one occasion of being racist! yet he keeps calling the arabs....SCUMBAG

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 07:46

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

JUDAS wants the saviours kicked kicked out the CL

whilst still wanting his scumbag team in the tenbob cup SPECIAL BREED that mon..

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 07:56

Posted by: Tiger cat (457)

The saviours, what a laugh, the arabs cant be trusted, evil nation with stupid laws,

As for the hypocrite pep,
It's not sport it's all about money,

What's he doing at city then, is it sport
city playing
southampton with all the money city have won in the lottery, would pep be at city if it was not for the money, I would love to see him manage a team with no money see how he fares, the mans a joke.

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 09:23

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

eh is ole managing a team without money and what happened to the team that he did..

NEVER FORGET YOU TRAFFORD FANS YOUR SCUMBAG CLUB WAS FIRST IN AND LAST OUT ALL THE DEFLECTING IN THE WORLD WILL NEVER EVER CHANGE THAT.....

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 10:02

Posted by: Tiger cat (457)

Show everyone the proof United, were first in instead of using your own opinion just to have another go at United, all 6 signed at the meeting, , if any club earns the name scumbags its city and all who work for the arabs,

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 10:15

Posted by: chatty (8219) 

I have never disguised the fact that our owners are a bunch of shysters who genuine United fans have wanted shot of since the day they turned up.
And I have never tried to make out they were in it for some altruistic motive unlike some folk have their owners on here.
Spending Billions and years trying to tart up their sorid reputation only to shoot themselves in the foot big time really is a Gerald Ratner moment.
No qualms about United being kicked out of the Europa League, no need for us to win a European competiton as some sort of validation of being a big club, been there done it got the T shirt.

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 10:15

Posted by: builderboy (2316)

All six have now crawled back with their tails between their legs. Without the English clubs the other six have now collapsed like a cheap deckchair. Good.

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 10:19

Posted by: whups (5802) 

tiger cat you,ve broke the golden rule of asking laughing boy for proof as he never produces any & puts nothing on but made-up lies . as for ole i was very disappointed that he did,nt reply in this debacle & yes he is managing without money as the glazers see to that . i,ll be glad when were shut of them & i hope the fans vent their spleen when they are back in old trafford . good ridance to the sycophant ed woodward.

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 11:25

Posted by: laughing gravy (7226)

FIRST IN LAST OUT....

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 13:54

Posted by: peter g (2625) 

Pep said he was against it so did Klopp I didnt, see OGS or did i miss it Also our American owner John W.Henry appologised but i only think he it did to get back in the good books, He would have took the pieces silver its all about money with them Yanks

Replied: 21st Apr 2021 at 14:36
Last edited by peter g: 21st Apr 2021 at 14:39:58

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3538) 

Well it goes to show that i know absolutely F *** A** ABOUT WHAT was going on ,i was utterly dumbstruck at the speed of the so-called super 6 revoking on their attempt to form a super league . I f BORIS is so wound up about then why doesn't he and his cronies take charge and get shut of all these greedy hypocrites should pass a bill and make it illegal for any football clubs to be owned by JONNY FORIEGNER . One more item up for debate is that if all these clubs are crying poverty then simply bring in a SALARY WAGE CAP and stop paying all these over-rated players exorbitant wages that i believe would be a step in the right direction also instruct SKY to share the money out more equal ie instead of the prem getting the largest slice of the pie ,, start from the other way round the second division ,then league 1 ,then the championship i think that's the fairest way of doing it ,but i think i'm talking from my A*se again so stay safe all ,.....GB

Replied: 22nd Apr 2021 at 15:43

Posted by: whups (5802) 

it seems that it,s cut no ice with liverpool fans & their ex players .

Replied: 22nd Apr 2021 at 17:30

 

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