Crank and Burtons

Started by: dave b (1310) 

Do you remember it ?,behind Browns dentists ,you could park in the yard at the side,when i think back ,it was like that sketch in the Two Ronnies in the ironmongers shop, you could get anything ,used to take a while to get served ,and when you did ,you went out and your van was blocked in , Was it on Woodcock St ?.

Started: 18th Mar 2010 at 16:48
Last edited by dave b: 18th Mar 2010 at 17:09:39

Posted by: ayrefield (4465)

It was a wonderful place with knowledgeable staff, if you didn't know what something was called and you explained it to them and what it was off they would fix you up with a part, ask them lot in B&Q and they look at you as though you are talking in chinese.

Replied: 18th Mar 2010 at 18:26

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

I very true (ayrefield)they were very helpful, went in for our ironmongery when i started for a building firm in 70s as a apprentice joiner.

Replied: 18th Mar 2010 at 19:25

Posted by: gaffer (6844) 

I knew Burton's daughter Sidney.

Replied: 18th Mar 2010 at 21:38

Posted by: reddi8 (1107)

Billy Burton was interested restoring vintage bikes when I used to stay at their house in Orrell. I went to school with Leslie and knew Sydney as well.

Replied: 18th Mar 2010 at 22:48

Posted by: bassman (3591)

Cranks was like a treasure trove for the building could get almost anything there.In the 60's Cranks,Wildes and Makinsons were the best.

Replied: 18th Mar 2010 at 23:28

Posted by: upthetims (6576)

not a patch on Liveseys in Queen St,always service with a smile,especially when I worked in sales office

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 16:27

Posted by: winnie (1356) 

fork handles !!!!!!!!!!!!

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 16:36

Posted by: bassman (3591)

Liveseys were a bit more expensive though and their trade discount weren't as much as the others...

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 16:49

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

Was it on Woodcock St ? the reason i put it on it came up in conversation in the pub the other night.With the Gallerys being built i cant picture that street .

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:09

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)


There's a pic on here somewhere of it. Taken around the time just before the Galleries work began.

I'll have a look.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:17

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

I remember parking in Crank & Burtons yard while we did a job at Browns dentist,put a dorma window on the roof ,and thats were they made all the false teeth on the top floor,we were ripping the window out ,and they carried on working,talk about health and safety.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:24

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

Thanks dustaf thought it was

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:28

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Just found it. You can't really see too much of the shop, but the bathroom sign is there.

It is with the Hope Street photos.


Photo by Paul Green.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:31
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Posted by: dave b (1310) 

I thats it ,you dont realise how much things have changed thanks.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:36

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I knew I'd seen the pic somewhere.

I was only thinking of being on that corner and getting the smell of roasting chickens a few days ago.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:40

Posted by: gaffer (6844) 

1950's Ad.

Replied: 19th Mar 2010 at 19:52

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

Dustaf....Just seen some more photos on WW Albums,Places,Woodcock St,11 in total ,ones a black and white taken in 1914 it was then called Ashton's cold store.Theres one and you can see the outline of another building on the side of C&B i wonder what that was?.Theres the bank ,and Mark Williams butchers.
I worked at Mrs Williams house up Wigan Lane its all boarded up now it was called Brentwood top of Leyland Mill Lane. Catch u later...

Replied: 20th Mar 2010 at 20:29
Last edited by dave b: 20th Mar 2010 at 20:32:54

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Cheers Dave.

I was looking at 'streets'.

There are certainly some good pics.


Been strugling to think of the name of the toy shop.

Just came to me as I was typing.

Callands. On right.

Replied: 20th Mar 2010 at 21:20
Last edited by dustaf: 20th Mar 2010 at 21:24:56

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

Cheers dustaf there the ones i didnt know how to put the photos on here, perhaps you could explain please, for next time.

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 14:31

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

No problem Dave.

It's all done with code and brackets. Think of the brackets as boxes. You put a code with the address of your item in one box, then a name for your link, then another box of code.

The address.

If you look at the top of this page you will see it's own address.

Now to get a photo's address, right click on it and see 'properties'.

This pic's address is

So with that information you create the code and brackets


Then type a name for the link (or a comment) eg Crank & Burton

Then a closing code, again in brackets;


It is important that you don't leave any gaps in the line and that you use lower case letters for the url and /url parts.

Also note that the brackets must be the square type [ and ].

So, when it's al put togerher it will look like this;

[url=]Crank & Burton[/url]

You can only read that because I made the forward-slash red.

Otherwise you'd just see

Crank & Burton

Have a go, there's always someone who will help you out.

If you make a mistake and just a line of type appears, don't delete it. This way it is possible to see where the problem is.

Have fun.

When you sort that out, you can also stick pictures directly on the post in a similar way but slightly different code. img and /img instead of url and /url


Gets this;

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 16:07
Last edited by dustaf: 21st Mar 2010 at 16:12:29

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

I always thought itwas in Commercial yard ,just shows how memory tricks you,I knew Billy well with Jack Lathom ( commercial inn) they were best pals
Gaffer you say ou Knew Sydney , is she no longer around ?

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 16:48

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Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 17:20

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

THANKS Dustaf 2nd attempt missed the forword slash first time cheers i know about the img etc ive done that,got the photo bucket set up.learning all the time as they say

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 17:22

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

You're welcome Dave.

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 17:25

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

photojust tried again .

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 17:32
Last edited by dave b: 21st Mar 2010 at 17:35:44

Posted by: dave b (1310) 

Dustaf What does that mean when it says eg..Posted by name inactive seen it on some of the threads.

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 18:37
Last edited by dave b: 21st Mar 2010 at 18:38:49

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

It means that the person has either been banned, or they have left and asked to be made inactive.

Also one fellow changed his internet provider and had to re register. He did so with a new name (Joseph1) and asked for his old account (xrh 59) to be de-activated.

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 19:12

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

Fame at last!

But I never made a fuss.

Replied: 21st Mar 2010 at 19:25

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Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Cracking picture on Album


Replied: 3rd Jun 2010 at 16:51

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

The yard at the side of Crank & burtons, was the back yard entrance to Standishgate NatWest bank.
It was at the side of the small NatWest Market Bank on Woodcock St.
I parked regularly in that yard to pick my wages up by going through the back door of the Standishgate Branch.

Before that in the '40's, it was a long low shed which was the original Fish Market.. As a kid, I used to run past holding me nose, coz of the stink

Replied: 4th Jun 2010 at 00:50

Posted by: kameras (448) 

My mum and dad bought their fireplaces there . rayburn heaters from memory. They were great days. We have high tech these days but those were the days for sure.

Replied: 4th Jun 2010 at 10:16

Posted by: mojim (1679)

I used to look at those Rayburns when I was very young and swore I'd have one some day,and I've still not got one.

Replied: 4th Jun 2010 at 17:40


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