Started by: GOLDEN BEAR (4819) 

I am asking this question for someone who does not have any access to computer's etc ...
The question is if a person is receiving P.I.P BENEFIT is that person allowed to do any form of work without having the benefit stopped or reduced !!
I await your answer's ...GB.

Started: 18th May 2022 at 15:46

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9750)

Yes you can still work if you are receiving Personal Independence Payments, (PIP's) LINK

Replied: 18th May 2022 at 15:53

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

GB if some one is claiming PIP they must have some form of disability. The person is assessed on their illness and disabilities and details of treatment medication test results and qualify there is a points score based on daily living and motibility. This can range from preparing food taking medication washing and bathing communicating verbally or budgeting to name a few and you are awarded points for each component
Read the link and it says you CAN claim PIP even if you are working

Replied: 18th May 2022 at 16:07
Last edited by PeterP: 19th May 2022 at 09:29:59

Posted by: wnwanderer (45)


You do know people with disabilities are still actually capable of work, right?

Replied: 18th May 2022 at 19:13

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4819) 

I would like to thank TTS & PeterP , for kindly supplying me with the info i was seeking for a friend,i have passed the info onto to her and will assist best i can ,again thank you both .......GB

Replied: 19th May 2022 at 16:12

Posted by: tonker (25310) 

Replied: 22nd May 2022 at 19:19

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1440) 

Cruel Tonks..... where doyou fine em?

Replied: 22nd May 2022 at 19:45

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

I believe you can get PIP for loads of things, now.

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 10:59

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

B Brush you can get a Blue Badge for all sorts of ailments but you still have to jump through hoops to get PIP

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 12:22

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

then how come people who have no problems walking get a car?

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 12:31

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

I don't Know and I don't Care if your that bothered ask them or do the nasty and report them if you think they should not have a car

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 13:57

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

oh dear

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 13:59

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

I prefer the green grapes, they don't have pips in them,

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 14:39

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

They were on Brother Bertie's shoulder, but, alas he has gone away.

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 15:14

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

Tom told not to eat any grapes to much sugar never mind any PIPS. Has you know Yvonne is disabled and we have a motability car. One person I know once got on about us having a car and I said I would have prefered my missus to be fit and well and then she could walk down the street use a bus /train like any other abled person and not rely on using a wheelchair which I have to push. She is not capable of using a mobility scooter. Her only real pleasure in life is to go for a ride in the car and to see animals /birds

Replied: 23rd May 2022 at 15:27

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)

Too many now driving around in a Motorbility vehicle and many showing a Blue Badge when they are anything but Disabled.

Many a time, the genuine disabled people cannot get a disabled parking space because of the cheats!

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 07:38
Last edited by Owd Codger: 24th May 2022 at 08:29:34

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

Owd Codger how do you know it is a Motabilty vehicle You select your vehicle just like any other person and lease that vehicle through the Motability Scheme. A Blue badge holder can use their badge in any vehicle even your vehicle has long as it is used to the letter of the blue badge scheme. There are over 2.5 million blue badges now in use in the UK and like every thing else in life there are people who abuse the system There are people who print lamenated copies or people who use some one else's badge the list can be endless. When a Badge is displayed in a car the date of issue and the council who issued it is displayed but the photo of the person who it is issued too is hidden on the back so now one know who the badge belongs to

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 08:25
Last edited by PeterP: 24th May 2022 at 09:41:31

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)


You are indeed correct that the vehicle showing a Blue Badge might not a vehicle on Motorbility scheme and I have amended my comment.

However, as Parents who has a Disabled Daughter, my Wife and I find it appalling that so many are riding around in Motorbility vehicles when there is no Disabled person in the vehicle or displaying a Blue Badge where again there is no Disabled person in the vehicle.

Time that something was done about it!

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 08:44

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

OC, same with disabled toilets.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 08:45

Posted by: Platty (1380)

Baz: Especially if you have a wheelchair.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 10:35

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

Especially people in wheelchairs, they have no choice, the others do.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 10:47

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

BB at one time you had to go to the council and show proof you needed a "RADAR" key and then you were issued with one for £3. Now you can get one on E-bay This is why a lot of public toilets NOW have yale type locks and not the "radar"lock. I don't know of any public toilets in Southport which are now "radar" operated Has most public toilets now charge between 30-50p to get in, we would need a large bag full of change because my missis can go to the loo and half an hour later want to go again Good job there are toilets in most large shops supermarkets

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 10:51

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

all down to inconsiderate, lazy people.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 10:57

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

There are so many people here who are ready to judge others without knowing their circumstances. We know that some people abuse the system, as happens in all systems. I suggest the ones who know for certain the ones who are abusing the system, do their civic duty and report them to the authorities. Otherwise stop making the assumptions that they have not got some "Hidden" disability. I have also noticed that in some establishments the word "Disabled Toilets" has been replaced by "Accessible Toilets" and are open and no need for a key. Some people who are not necessarily classed as disabled but have lesser mobility problems find it problematic to negotiate stairs. So the people who run these establishments have a little more foresight and empathy for others.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:10
Last edited by jathbee: 24th May 2022 at 11:12:21

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

and that makes it a lot easier for anyone to use these toilets.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:13

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

Yes it does. But then it also makes it easier for the ones less able. Do you have a problem with that, or would you like to make assumptions about who should be allowed to use those too. Just hope you don't have to walk a mile in their shoes.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:18
Last edited by jathbee: 24th May 2022 at 11:19:38

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

no, i haven't, but people wth certain disabilities can use a normal toilet, and people in wheelchairs cant, they don't have a choice.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:23

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

And just how many disabled people in wheelchairs have you seen queuing for a toilet. Because any decent person would give priority to them. Or would you like to police those too.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:29

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

Because any decent person would give priority to them.

and how many of these are about?

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:33

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

So you are judging the majority of the population too. You must love it up there on your high horse.

Replied: 24th May 2022 at 11:39
Last edited by jathbee: 24th May 2022 at 12:12:32

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)


If the genuine disabled and their families did report those cheating on Motorbility and the Blue Badge schemes, they would have a full time unpaid job doing it with the number of the people in the country who are involved.

The silence about the topic is also an indication of how many of those who come on Wigan World are involved in the abuse of the schemes.

Replied: 25th May 2022 at 10:04
Last edited by Owd Codger: 25th May 2022 at 10:05:28

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

I'm not in a position to judge who is or isn't involved in the abuse of these schemes on WW. Except to say that the abuse of the systems carries way, way up to the top echelons of this country. And the sooner the leaders of this country start showing some kind of moral leadership, maybe the people will follow but I somehow think it's far too late in the day to expect that.

Replied: 25th May 2022 at 10:19

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

well now they have included "hidden disabilities" there's going to be even more trouble/arguments

Replied: 25th May 2022 at 10:28

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

You do seem to have an awfully big bee in your bonnet concerning hidden disabilities. There are all kinds of hidden disabilities. Take yourself for instance.

Replied: 25th May 2022 at 10:40

Posted by: basil brush (18319)

There are all kinds of hidden disabilities. don't say.

Replied: 25th May 2022 at 11:01

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)

Like I have said, the silence says a lot!

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 07:42

Posted by: retep1949 (826)

Where any type of money is concerned people will scam it.The benefits system had good intentions but it is very abused.I know people who have tried and should get benefits and been refused and I know people who just con the system.I think most people know someone who is playing the system.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 08:11

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)

How can you have a benefit system where people can get as much, if not more for not working for living than those working in low pay minimum wage job of forty hours.

No wonder for the first time since records were started, job vacancies have passed the unemployment figures, especially in minimum wage employment which has made some jobs no longer attractive to work in because of the poor pay!

Something wrong somewhere!

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 08:37

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

I agree, there is something wrong. Perhaps employers should pay a wage that people can live on instead of them having to claim benefits for the shortfall. Buy that's not going to happen. Slave labour is not hard to come by, even the sick, disabled and elderly are being forced into working in these jobs. So no wonder there are so many unwilling to take these jobs.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 09:36

Posted by: Owd Codger (807)


The problem is that the the major parties will do nothing about how it has got out of control for fear of losing votes at election time.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 09:43

Posted by: jathbee (11349)

And here's me thinking that governments are there to look after the people who elected them to do the job OC. But of course that's in the long,
forgotten past. Now it's every corrupt politicians aim to lie, cheat and smarm their way to power. And once there, to lie cheat and and use any other means at their disposal to stay there and even when caught out, brazenly lie cheat and smarm some more. And it looks like it works too, even to the point t of people saying, it was just a party.

In my opinion, it wasn't just a party. It's the lies,lies more lies and the bare faced deceit. And it looks like he's got away with cocking a snook at the people of this country. Does he think we are all the uneducated, unwashed people of the Victorian era. Make me want to spit.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 11:10
Last edited by jathbee: 29th May 2022 at 11:14:09

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

"Greased Piglet"

DC called the fat controller this, long before any occurrence of party gate.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 18:42


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