IMMIGRATION?

Well i see POLAND are getting brassed of with BELARUS and all the immigrants that are trying to get into Poland ,The EU ARE NOT happy with Poland for blocking them overrunning into their country ,i just wonder now if they know now how we felt and still do as to the amount that are crossing the channel ,,thus far into NOVEMBER 2021 THERE HAS BEEN 22 THOUSAND WHO HAVE GOT INTO OUR COUNTRY ,,,JUST THINK ABOUT THAT 22 , 000 AND STILL COUNTING WHEN WILL IT ALL STOP ????GB

",JUST THINK ABOUT THAT 22 , 000 AND STILL COUNTING WHEN WILL IT ALL STOP ????GB"

It will stop when our government decide to stop it. Not before.

And they need to grow a very large pair.... Patel hasn't got any.

"Patel hasn't got any"

I would be very shocked, if I found out that she had some

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The problem is GB the civil servants won't do what the politicians tell them because they don't like the government and the ministers are fricky of the snivel serpents because they just go snivelling to their unions and get accused of bullying.
Dominic Cummings would have, and was, sorting the civil service out until Princess Nut Nuts made a coup with her other mates.
So we're all sunk.

It;s all linked to the Marakesh Agreement, which the UK signed up for back in 2018.
The global compact for safe orderly and regular migration

Tonks, you have mentioned that before and I understand what you're saying but I cannot understand why the UK make it so comfortable on arrival.
The Mayor of Calais is complaining of the conditions there. She said Calais has had over 20 years of these immigrants fouling their town and the problem (her words) is that they see Britain as El Dorado, 5 star hotels, pocket money, free health, dentist, schooling....
Why can't Britain put them in holding centres like France? Nothing in your item addresses that. Get rid of Legal Aid for them, Human Rights lawyers dedicated to them, change the law, that is Patel's job. Stop making it comfortable for these people. Put them in barracks, tents, etc. The good ones will be allowed in, throw the dross out.

I read yesterday that Poland had seen known terrorist gang members from Iraq going through their border which is one of the reasons they've closed it. Wonder if they're on their way here to join their mates.

It's funny the froggies can impound our trawlers but can't stop little dingys they are taking the hiss big time.

Thinking about it, the government is stuck between a Rock and a Hard Place, if they don't do anything about it, then folk are upset, and the press attack the government for not dooing anything about it.
If they stopped the migrants, and shipped them out to a third country, then the press would attack the government for doing something about it.

They cawn't win.

it,s wot you voted for 1stroke .

Whupsy

No, it is not what I voted for, I voted for the Brexit Party, I voted for Brexit

And your lot the Labour Party would do even less about illegal immigration.

If the Tory's take a tough stance on it, then Labour will throw in the race card, and the government will be accused of being racist, and if Labour was in power, and they took a tough stance on immigration, then the Tory's would chuck in the race card and accuse Labour of being racist

,THURSDAY , 11/11/21 , A TOTAL OF 1,185 ILLEGAL MIGRANTS CROSSED THE CHANNEL THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN ONE DAY YET !!!! JUST HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO CARRY ON????? THIS ON REMEMBRANCE DAY ARE YOU OR ANYONE GOING TO JUSTIFY TO ALL THOSE BRAVE YOUNG LADS LAYING DOWN THEIR LIVES FOR THIS ???? YOU MUST BE JOKING SO THESE ROTTEN IDLE LAYABOUTS CAN REAP THE BENEFITS IT'S NOT ON AND HIGH TIME THIS GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT ..... GB. A PROUD BRIT TOOO ...

I see our troops have now gone over to help Poland fortify their border with Belarus.

Be aware.

Look what happened last time we 'helped Poland'!

I've just had a thought, maybe we can ask NATO to send troops to the Kent coast.

Can't even control our own borders, fortifying the EU's while the Channel is wide open.

Our Navy can't do it. They're too busy in the Gulf, sorting out the Somalian pirate's!

yes it is wot you voted for 1stroke . you & others like you voted this lot in to supposedly to do your bidding . hows it feel .

There is more to this than just IMMIGRATION - Putin is once more trying to divide Europe by throwing a spanner inside the wheel. In July this year the dictator of Belarus Lukashenko dragged a British journalist out of an Easyjet flight - the consequence was that most airlines were banned from flying to or over Belarus. The only countries that still fly there are Turkey and Russia. This latest wave of immigrants are coming to Belarus via Turkey. The Belarus President's best mate is Putin and his mate is Erdogan. They are pushing this agenda as they believe it will lead to the EU to bend on the no flight policy and in parallel because it is an issue that sows discord in Europe and can make it weak internally - which is what Putin wants.

So there is always something more going on than just immigration.

Well, now that he no longer has his man in the White House, he was bound to try something else.

None to blame for the trouble we are seeing than the usa an uk for invading the middle east in the first place.

If the middle east would behave itself, we wouldn't have to invade it!

Tonker

You are pro EU.

You are pro Spain.

You think that Britain is a sh*thole.

You think that Wigan people are thick, and don't know where they live.

So are you in favour of mass migration into Britain, both legal and illegal ?

I am pro EU, because there's strength in number.

I am pro Spain, because it's nice, it has better weather, better food,, better roads, better lifestyle, effective law enforcment, better NHS, better pensions.

I think Britain is a shithole because, it has shit weather, shit food, shit roads, no proper law enforcment, an overloaded NHS and you can't survive on the state pension. And I can foresee it getting worse in the future!

I don't think Wigan people are all thick. But, I do think all people who don't live in Wigan, but think they do, clearly are thick!

As far as being in favour of mass migration into Britain goes, no , I am very against it, because immigration into Britain is a contributing cause of .......... shit roads, shit food, no proper law enforcment, an overloaded NHS and you can't survive on the state pension. And I can foresee it getting worse in the future!

Tonker

Thank you for your full, frank and comprehensive reply

you forgot shit replies by 1stroke too .

Whupsy

Why don't you take a leaf out of Tonkers book, and give a proper answer, when asked a proper question ?

PLATTY,, Like you have said we are sending troops there as someone has already stated on here ,, """ LOOK THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO THIER AID ???? AND FOR WHAT ??????

Peter Israel

And there have been other things happening in Poland too LINK

Could be classic foreign power 'subversion' causing trouble in other countries to destabilise them

"Tensions between the Polish government and the European Union have raised speculation about a potential ‘Polexit’."

'Poleaxed'!

why dont you go back to sleep.

Britain to immigrants is like winning the lottery. Too many freebies and not paid a penny into the system. Yet they can pay thousands to come here . Then open takeaways Hairdressers.Carwashes that use more water than what goes over Niagra falls. All top makes of cars.The list is endless.Not bad to say they came over in a dinghy. .They know Brits are a soft touch.

So i see the nutter that was going to bomb a baby hospital is an ASYLUM SEEKER ,apparently he was refused asylum back in 2015 ,, My question to Ms PRITTY PATEL IS ,, "" WHY THE BLOODY HELL IS THIS IRAQI STILL HERE """ ???Shouldn't he have been sent back then ,,ALONG WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER SKIVING *ITS ! Come on PATEL JUST DO YOUR JOB AND GET A GRIP .. I strongly belief that you should you want to claim asylum that person should apply where they are from not come here then apply ,after years of STEALING BENEFIT'S /MONEY FROM HARD WORKING REAL BRITS .. GB.

It just shows what a mess the West has made of the world in the last 30yrs

1. Armed a nutcase to the teeth, (Saddam) so he could defeat Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, but he made peace with the Iranians, leaving him with the best equipped army in the Middle East, to which he invaded Kuwait, and the rest is history, events cascaded, and destabilised the Middle East, culminating with the Arab Springs, which did not work, and led to mass migration away from the Middle East towards Europe.

2. During the same time frame, the stupid EU brought in The Schengen Area, which is an area comprising 26 European countries that have officially abolished all passport and all other types of border control at their mutual borders. The area mostly functions as a single jurisdiction for international travel purposes, with a common visa policy.

That means that once migrants reached the EU nothing can stop going anywhere in the EU, and we know where they head too.
African migrants have also been encouraged to find pastures new in the EU by this lax borders measure.

It is stupid, and Golden Bear is having kittens about it

you don't see the Q8 service stations any more either, I liked them and JET, cos they did chep petrol,

Tom

I remember Q8 stations, and they still have Jet Service Stations in North Lincolnshire, along with the same shitty yellow colour and logos

stealing benefits from "hard working brits" who cant get up in a morning . you do know alan that they cant claim a penny until they get a N.I. number ? . they can get more money in the EU in benefits ? .i happen to think that both of these are wrong but answer this ,who,s killed more people in the GB the muslims or the IRA ? .

Well said Golden Bear

Back in July there was a discussion on here and it was proved they do get benefits without an NI number.

The taxi converted Christian bomber attended Mosque all day every day during Ramadan and in the weeks up to the bombing despite converting to Christianity in 2017. He alos used a fake ID to claim asylum.

Channel migrants are to be flown to Albania at a cost of £100,000 a head to a new asylum centre. The French deny agreeing to turn the migrants back. (So why the hell are we giving them £54m?)

Whupsy, the fight with the Islamists on this territory is only just beginning. It will start to get worse now, and the indigenous generation after the next are going to be in a really nasty spat with these people coming over and getting themselves organised.

TTS: That should cheer GB up!

question still not answered ? .only just begining my eye . we were bombing them in the 1st world war with the likes of "bomber" harris ? .

WHUfood PS ; You know as well as me that even if they don't have a NI number ,tell me this , where ever they are being kept are they given food ??? are they given shelter?? are they given clothing ?? are they given heating ??? ALL FREE VIA THE SOFT BRITISH TAX-PAYER'S WHILST BORIS AND PRITTY ARE HAVING IT OFF !!! GB

Guess who offered us the chance to stay in the Dublin lll Regulation.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9031/

Ability to return asylum seekers to European countries.

After this year, the UK will not be able to use the Dublin Regulation to return asylum seekers who travel from EU member states.

The Government is hopeful that gaining the ability to negotiate new returns agreements will strengthen the UK’s ability to return people seeking asylum to other European countries, although some external commentators disagree.

Controversial changes to the Immigration Rules due to take effect on 1 January 2021 give the Home Office greater scope to treat as inadmissible asylum claims from people who have passed through, or have a connection with, a safe third country. The Government has described them as paving the way for bilateral agreements with other countries.

Can I just say Golden Bear, that as much as it makes your blood boil about these immigrants who paddle across the channel, and get picked up by the so called Border Force, which is supposed to protect our borders, the amount coming over now is only a fraction of a fraction of the migrants who were entering this country before Brexit, they came by car, plane, train and ferry, they came in their millions, and all done completely legally as they were existing EU citizens, well all that has gone now.

"There are far too many foreigners coming into this country of ours. Let me tell you this, not in my lifetime, probably in yours, certainly in your sons' lifetimes, we will have to take up arms against them"!

Dr Tosh Badouri, 2006, on the subject of foreigners!

alan why dont you comment on the £630 billion that goes out of the country every year by tax dodgers & big businesses ? . it,s far more that the palrty sum an immigrant gets . oh & by the way there,s nothing left in britian anymore that you can call ours ? , the torys have sold everything off .

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Whupsy

Where do you get that £630 billion from

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The value of UK funds invested overseas as legal tax avoidance is around £160 billion.
UK firms have investments overseas of £1.5 trillion.
Foreign firms have investments in the UK of £1.6 trillion.

Gaffer

I wish that Whupsy, would get his figures from the same place that you do

really 1strpke he,s already been pulled up about his so-called facts & figures . try reading a paper or two 1stroke .

Whups

The Daily Mirror is no substitute for the Financial Times.
By the way nobody has ever pulled me up for facts I’ve quoted.

There yoo go Whupsy, yoo need to start reading the Financial Times, instead of the bloody Daily Mirror

just about right for that idiot & i see he was 1st to mention the daily mirron ? .

The ex Chief Immigration Officer said they head to the UK because it it the land of milk and honey where everything is free. And you DO receive monies without an NI number. I have posted the proof previously.
Gaffer, It is good that you bring common sense to the table rather than repetitive waffle.

gaffers so-called "facts" leave a lot to be desired ? . it has been mentioned several times . £ 39 a day for food & toiletries isnt going to kill anyone broady you spend more on de-icer .

So are you agreeing that they get monies before a NI Number?

£39 a day times 7 days in a week times52 weeks in the year=£14235 This Is per person not bad money for doing nothing and not paid a penny into the system. I have worked for 45 years and now I get Taxed on my pension to help pay for these illegals

the likes of you can see the forest for the trees & you never could . how many of the rich have paid a penny ? . how many big businesses have paid a penny . immigration has showed how important it has been & since they left we have transport difficulties ,food shortage , hospitality shortage , fruit picking , bar staff shortages . grow up partridge & see wot,s actually going on here . why cant you direct your venom at the real enemy , the torys because there,s nothing left thats british because they have sold it off to their freinds .

IN reply to TTS , The facts remain from JANUARY 2021 TO DATE 21 NOVEMBER 2021 A TOTAL OF 23 ,000 THOUSAND ILLEGALS HAVE COME ACROSS THE CHANNEL ,THAT IS THE OFFICIAL NUMBER WHICH WE KNOW WILL BE EVEN MORE THAT THAT . At a time when all of us who were born and bred here and worked all our lives and paid into the TAX system and still are in some cases the question is just how much are all these ILLEGALS costing the UK GOVERNMENT PER WEEK ?? IT IS QUITE A EASY QUESTION WHY CAN'T WE BE TOLD ?? All we buy is rocketing sky high electric /gas / petrol next shortly will be the new rates next year form our clown council's it just keep adding up ,but at the same time we have to keep all this lot .......GB

Golden Bear

Did yoo listen to that song

who,s paying into the tax system alan ? . certainly not the rich & big business .

Whupsy I can see the wood from the trees. Why is there a shortage of workers in every sector when there are over 1 million people on the dole. Is it because the jobs do not pay for most people to come off benefits. There as always been legal migrant workers in this country but now it does not pay for them to work over here. It is the immigrants who come over the channel who have no intention of doing any work 24000 at the last count plus the ones who are not registered who I begrudge paying tax to keep. Has to big companies not paying taxes that is out of my control and even Blair as made millions since being PM also your union leader Scargill has made a lot of money neither of them are Tories

WHUPS Bomber harris world war 1, Try world war 2.

world war 1 & 2 . he bomed iraq when it was called kurdistan ? .

he was once YOUR leader pal .your union sold out to the torys did,nt they .

Whups there are many different types of people in this country who play the system and end up with millions in overseas accounts. They are not all tory's. What is happening in Liverpool with the council which was always under LABOUR control. Now there are a few of them who are being investigated for corruption Footnote Scargill was never my leader has Joe Gormley was when I was in the NUM and even he ended up in the House of Lords on £300 + a day not bad from a pit man from Ashton

peter you only need look at this present regime to see that the wrong doin is mainly torys ? .as far as corruption goes it wont see the light of day & you know it .

shocking

TTS : TOMMY SHE COULD HAVE HAD A TRANSGENDER OPERATION AND GOT " TWO" JUST A THOUGHT ......GB .

A terrible loss of life yesterday....

Who are making these inflatables? Tighten up the manufacture and sale of them... No genuine certification or reason for use..... Trash them. No boats... No immigrants.

#¥$€$¢¢

All this talk about how to stop immigrants but it.s now to late!!
The Question what should have been asked is were are they getting their money from in the first place to travel??? And they would have found out that it was coming from family members already in the UK!! so if you wanted to stop them coming they should have stopped the transfer of money overseas in the first place!! But like i said too late now ..... and who is going to mess with the bankers????

Also why I am having a waffle you cannot deport a foreign resident if you don't have diplomatic relations with that country so count Afghanistan and Iran out - 2. you cannot deport a citizen of a country which is at war. so you can count out Somalia, Ethiopia and Iraq 3. You also can't deport someone who isn't physically holding a passport ...

I will stick by what I have said all along, and that is that there should be a processing facility in one of the Atlantic facing countries in Africa, and migrants would be processed there, upon arrival in the UK the young single males should be shipped out under arrest and in shackles, and on to planes and flown to Africa, the women and families can be processed here, because the vast majority of the migrants are young single males, who are obviously economic migrants, if they did that just think how much that would put off the young single males from coming over here.

it,s wot yoo voted for 1stroke .

TTS ;; ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE ! GB.

CAN someone tell me what's all the fuss about this boat sinking in channel????? I have to agree with TTS comments about having a process facility abroad ,where the genuine refugees can apply to come here ,as for all the rest of the bone idle men who are not wed they are coming here to scrounge so they can sod off , IF any blame is needed it is the country's that these people cross before they get to the channel ports for these countries have let them willy nilly cross all their boundaries that is where they should have applied for asylum ,i see all this then i see 150,000 older house holds face being put into fuel poverty this winter , we can't look after our own .. AGAIN I ASK THE QUESTION WHERE IS THE DOSH COMING FROM TO KEEP ALL THESE ILLEGALS ??????? ANSWER'S ON A CIG PACKET ????? GB

maybe if we stopped the money going out of the country there would be enough to go round alan ?

"CAN someone tell me what's all the fuss about this boat sinking in channel?????"

27 people died, I'd say that was a good reason to make a "fuss"

FIRST MATE; I cannot feel anything for anyone of those who drown ./die in their attempt to get into this country illegally!! They know the dangers and perils and even risk young babies .children . SO i repeat i have no pity for them . ALL i am concerned about is what happens to our OWN people ,especially the old . GB .