A49 road closure

Started by: mortarmillbill (689)

The Warrington Road / Smithy Brook Road junction will be completely closed for a few days from Monday 7th July.

Probably doing the final works and resurfacing the junction.

Poolstock Lane will be busy - expect chaos.

Started: 29th May 2021 at 19:41

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

Well Tom will be pleased

Replied: 29th May 2021 at 21:40

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I saw those signs for the first time yesterday (Saturday) and I agree they must be planning to be resurfacing the entire site, because the road surfaces are a mess, BUT also it should be remembered that after resurfacing, they will be getting the painters and decorators in to paint the junction, green, red, yellow, and sky blue pink, because it is a cycle junction, and yoo know how colourfully decorated those are

Replied: 30th May 2021 at 11:25

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

False alarm - senior moment. These are overnight closures.

I am surprised that TTS did not spot it

Replied: 30th May 2021 at 18:44

Posted by: Arfur petesake (340)

Signs cause anxiety and stress, the reality is different, Remember those signs on the duel carraige way, " work to start on 20th Feb expect delays"
Every one shaking with fear and asking, " what shall we do now " I think it was one weekend when they put a bump in the road and a couple of
20 MPH signs up, The rest of Poolstock Lane is back to the santa pod drag Queen racing strip its always been,
Don't panic Mr Mannering,

Replied: 30th May 2021 at 19:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

mortarmillbill :

"False alarm - senior moment. These are overnight closures.

I am surprised that TTS did not spot it

Bollocks !!!!

Yesterday it said on three different signs, that the road would be just 'closed' between the dates given, no mention whatsoever about overnight closures, I have not been passed today, so I take it the signs have been altered to say 'overnight closures' ?

Replied: 30th May 2021 at 22:40

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

According to the signs the A49 will be closed at 6.00pm every night so make sure that you finish work early.

Replied: 1st Jun 2021 at 15:15

Posted by: Arfur petesake (340)

The sign from the new extension before the junction still, says
" road closed' no times at all,

Replied: 1st Jun 2021 at 15:26

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

That is where I noticed the signs, three of the buggers.

Replied: 1st Jun 2021 at 15:29

Posted by: PeterP (8675)

Went into Wigan today sign showed Road closed from 18-00 till 05-00 from the 7th till the 11th June

Replied: 1st Jun 2021 at 17:21

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

And what do you know, the M6 motorway is also on overnight closures on the same dates(Haydock to Orrell)

That is the northbound lanes, I've not been southbound yet

Replied: 1st Jun 2021 at 19:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I have been passed one of the signs today, I couldn't look at them all because they have got temporary traffic lights in operation there today, and the top part of the sign was there last week, with the closure and dates on it, but that bottom bit mentioning the overnight thing as been added since, so it was a cock up, or they ran out of letters, but mortarmillbill, yoo weren't seeing things, or should I say not seeing things, because those signs were altered after they had been put there.

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 13:58

Posted by: PeterP (8675)

I had to go to Pemberton Clinic On Sherwood Drive this afternoon found it quicker to go through Bryn Downall Green Windy Arbour and down to Tunstall lane than try to get through the roadworks around Goose Green

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 16:20
Last edited by PeterP: 2nd Jun 2021 at 22:08:38

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I know, and all because of Tom and his push iron

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 16:50

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

They should ask Tomplum to cut the ribbon on the new cycle path

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 19:20

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I agree

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 19:25

Posted by: Arfur petesake (340)

Ha Ha, I'll ask him, he's my paperboy you know, A good worker that lad and loves biking, I think he's doing that Manchester to Blackpool cycle ride but, he's not doing it for charity, just for the fun,

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 20:07

Posted by: lectriclegs (4159)

I take it he lives close to you Arfur?

Replied: 2nd Jun 2021 at 20:12

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

I think he is only doing the Manchester to Blackpool cycle ride for the pies that they give out at the refreshment spots along the route.

And tell him he can't use an electric cycle.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2021 at 14:12

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

A reminder that the closures start tonight.

Replied: 7th Jun 2021 at 09:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I have just been looking at the roundabout there, and they are widening Warrington Road, as it leaves the roundabout heading towards Newtown, and it looks like they will have to do something with that traffic light pedestrian crossing there, it looks like it is in the way.

So maybe they will be relocating the crossing under the cover of darkness, the same way that they moved the bodies out of the old St Paul's graveyard at Goose Green, at night under the cover of darkness during the early 1960s

That was for that very same stretch of road too

Replied: 7th Jun 2021 at 10:49

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

I walked across the crossing this morning and it looks like the crossing is staying but the road is being narrowed at this point.

Replied: 7th Jun 2021 at 14:59

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

Yes the crossing is stopping, and it is due to be 'upgraded' as part of the scheme, and the pavement on either side of the road will be a shared space, between cyclists and pedestrians, so that Tom can cycle over people's toes, without fear of prosecution.
So they are going to narrow the road, so that half a dozen cyclists a week can cross the road there, that is progress for yoo isn't it

Replied: 7th Jun 2021 at 15:51

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

According to the Council press release 90000 cyclists have passed through the Saddle roundabout since March 2020 so quite a few of them must be coming and going via the A49.

Replied: 7th Jun 2021 at 20:47

Posted by: daveo18 (19)

Warrington Road to The Saddle is no longer the A49 (according to Google Maps)

Replied: 8th Jun 2021 at 15:15

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

Not many people will have noticed that it is now a B road.
The A49 now runs down the new bypass from Little Lane roundabout to Wigan.

Replied: 8th Jun 2021 at 16:14

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

the closure is very noticable from where I am, Who planned the shut down? because, Poolstock Lane is now SUPPOSED to be a 20 mph Zone, As it happens the only people doing 20 or less are cyclists, Its like a race track but, my point is, IF the Poolstock lane narrowing had been a success, the tailbacks would be horrendous ,Its because the Poolstock Lane updades flopped that the closures will still allow traffic flows as normal,
In the words of the failed highways engineer, Sledgieboy,
" you could't make it up"

Replied: 8th Jun 2021 at 20:18
Last edited by tomplum: 8th Jun 2021 at 20:18:58

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)


According to Faceache, traffic cannot turn right out of Smiffy Brook Road, on to Warrington Road, it has to turn left and go around the roundabout, and go that way, and that has caused traffic jams on the new road today, which have been horrendous

And Warrington Road is closed from 6.00pm which is a bit early.

So Poolstock Lane jammed up too, but a nice bit of nostalgia there

Replied: 8th Jun 2021 at 20:51

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

yes Tommy tea Bag, I know they can't turn right from smiffy brooke lane, its been like that for weeks, I think us cyclists should get a medal from the council because, our cars are at home, we are not adding to the congestion, we are not polluting the air, We put our lives on the line by dodging in and out of the cars parked on the pavement, yet we get castigated for going on the pavement, We take up less than .4 of a metre on the pavement, a car parked 2 wheels on the pavement takes 1 full metre of room, a woman pushing a pram takes a full metre, a leccy scooter takes a metre, a person walking a dog take a metre and if the have one of those extendable 'trip wire' leads, they take a mile of the pavement, We are the knights of the community , the greenest and the less carbon footprint being of the World, treat us with respect because, the more cyclists there are, the more road is available for Yoo,

Replied: 8th Jun 2021 at 21:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

They have narrowed the road there where the crossing is, and the crossing is turned off, so this presumably means they will be putting a new crossing there, which will have all the cycle bangs and whistles on it.

They are making the roundabout better for vehicular traffic, as well has for Tom and his mates, because where it has been just two lanes leading on to the roundabout, there will be three lanes, with the inside one for going down Warrington Road towards Newtown, and the other two will be for accessing the new road

Sniffy Brook/Warrington Road Junction

Replied: 9th Jun 2021 at 10:24

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

Is the work completed now? Has anyone been through yet.

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 12:40

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I went through it yesterday, and no it is not finished, they have been dooing a lot of tarmacking

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 12:53

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

I've just picked Mrs Plum up from Bingo, As i was going, they are doing some road repairs on Poolstock Lane by the tippings, a temp lights situation so, coming home I went the new road and through the new junction, Its defo not finished, cones everywhere but open to traffic, I think when they say its finished, they mean , they've finished closing it at night,
I'm happy with that new cycling lane set up,

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 22:00

Posted by: PeterP (8675)

Tom did you carry the missus on the cross bar or sat on the handle bars of your bike

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 07:11

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

We've got a tandem tha knows

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 08:12

Posted by: kenee (2100)

These cycle lanes are a great idea, if only they were used. I was standing at a bus stop at the Saddle today when 2 cyclists zipped past a few inches from me. About 9 feet away, the other side of a grass verge was a bright green cycle lane. They didn't appear to be aware of it.

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 18:13

Posted by: lectriclegs (4159)

They're not very bright them cyclists, Kenee.

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 18:16

Posted by: basil brush (16657)

they spend more time using the pavement.

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 18:28

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

I approve of this new junction

Replied: 15th Jun 2021 at 13:51

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

I came through yesterday and it looks like the are nearly done.

The new traffic lights need to be connected up and switched on and then a final tidy up and Bob's your uncle.

Nice new green painted cycle lanes for Tomplum to play on.

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 11:50

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

I'll go and check that out Mortimerbill, these cycling lanes are great but they need to continuation , Its no good making a cycling lane 200 yards long then stopping it,
I'll report back later,

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 12:18

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3795) 

dave018: Hi Dave i also have been studying google maps and you are spot on, for some inexplicable reason they have cancelled calling Warrington Road FROM the Little Lane Round-about to the saddle junction its new name is B 5386 ,BUT HOW ABOUT this for crazy ! when you follow thro the lights at the saddle junction it suddenly becomes the A49 AGAIN . Just why they have done that beggars belief .,,, also when you go on the new so called by-pass to wigan when you go thro lights where Poolstock lane joins in the section is called Chapel Lane but for that short stretch it's not the A49 UNTIL AFTER Caroline St then back to A49 to say they have made a bollocks is putting it lightly ,for me they should have left WARRINGTON ROAD ALONE AND GIVE THE BY-PASS A NEW NUMBER That would have been a whole lot simpler typical of planner's !!!!!!!! GB

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 15:19

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

I've not been for ages!

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 17:26

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

Well I went for a play about on the green lane psychopaths and, They are similar to all the others, Its a 2 way cycle path with a dividing line with indicating arrows to show cyclist which lane to travel in, It was completely ignored by a couple walking holding hands, they were so much in love they didn't hear me coming up behind them and the cood lovingly together in the evening warm sun, The green lanes were so attracted to them they didn't see the lovely brand new pedestrian footpath which runs adjacent , Anyroad, The cyclepaths are pointless until they get joined up, No matter which way you go, you come to a full stop and you have to either, ride the pavement ( not legal) or risk the road ( dangerous),
Its a hotch botch, hopefully all these cycle lanes will get joined up and make a safe path for the cyclist, only then will it encourage more people to leave the car at home and gain fitness, less polluted air , road accidents and reduce congestion,

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 22:00

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

This is all part of 'them men's' scheme, carried out by the government, in order to stop 'us men' having our own powered transport.
Cycling is ok for a leisure activity, but not going to work, visiting others, going shopping, socialising etc..

Can you imagine, going to visit relatives, who live ten miles away, at Christmas? Mum, Dad and three kids, all on bikes?
A plumber going to a job ten miles away, carrying his tools and parts in a big rucksack, on a bike?
A mum going shopping, to Tesco, with two kids, then bringing all the shopping home, on a bike?
All the Wiganers who work in Haydock, going to work on a bike and all the Haydockers who work in Warrington, going to work on a bike, and all the Warringtoners who work in Liverpool and all those who work in Manchester, and Leeds, Burnley, Preston, Blackburn etc., all pedalling away on their way to, and home from, work?

Too far to cycle? Take the bus! or train!
Them Men couldn't give a shit about Us Men.

It's all a big government trick!

It'll be like living in the 1800's all over again. Except we'll have a telly and a phone. And a computer!

Replied: 4th Jul 2021 at 22:41
Last edited by tonker: 4th Jul 2021 at 22:45:19

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

When I'm promoted to the status of one of the 'them men', My first rule will be to make EVERYONE's driving licence void, Then to get a new driving licence you must first,
1. ride a bike for 2 years and prove competent
2. ride a motor bike for another 2 years and prove competent
3. Men may then drive a car subject to a test. but, women must only drive while supervised by a man and display a ,'W' plate to warn other drivers,

Replied: 5th Jul 2021 at 10:06
Last edited by tomplum: 5th Jul 2021 at 10:08:22

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

Ladies, Tomplum has lit the blue touch paper.

I'm keeping out of this one.

Replied: 5th Jul 2021 at 15:47

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7445)

When I was little, my brother told me that a L Plate on a car meant that the driver was a looney

Replied: 5th Jul 2021 at 16:21

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

Oh I forgot to add, any drivers must be able to change a tyre, know where the oil dip stick is and be able to jump start a car, calling he AA /RAC will only be allowed by the disabled and the disabled car will be allotted by a board of Doctors, there'll be no blue badges just for having dandruff ,

Replied: 5th Jul 2021 at 17:15


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