young mothers having a whinge

On the Jeremy Vine show today young mothers having a moan about bringing a new child up in the pandemic on their own, Then a lady get on and says, I was born in 1943 and spent most of my time in a bomb shelter, ha ha made me laugh that did, They really had a rough time, the mother would be on her own, no car, no food in the shops, no heating, no hot water, they did't know whether the dad was ever going to get back at all,Yet these young un's moaning because they can't call mummy to help,

Bringing up a baby is hard, TomP, and someone’s bygone experience doesn’t diminish the difficulties of today’s new mums.

The caller was a baby in WW2, so when she herself was a new mum she may well have had the support of her own mum and other family, friends and neighbours, and without the backdrop of a world war or pandemic. New mums today tend to be more isolated anyway, and with Covid-19 restrictions probably more so than ever.

maybe so jo anne but it was a lot harder then, Its the most natural thing in the world, its not something to moan about, girls in the jungle just go behind a bush, then sling the baby over the shoulder with the water barrel then go home and make dinner for the bread winner,

Would the young mothers of today know how to put a terry nappy on, or even know how to clean and wash them.....phhheeww.

Nappily, I didn’t have that pleasure either, Anne, though I know some mums still use (modern) Terry nappies for green reasons.

TomP, I was lucky to have support from both my Mum and Dad when my children were very young. With this insight into my experiences, my Dad once said he’d never realised what hard work it was for my Mum when we were little.

You've hit the safety pin on the head there jo anne, Bringing a kid up is a two person job, Mum and Dad working as a team, Thats what Mrs Plum and myself were and even then, its tiring , So During the War years when the Dads were all at war, It was much much harder, Then the food .shortage and the lack of modern day gadgets, The young un's of today should be rejoicing about it, not going on a radio show saying how unfair they are being treated because they are locked in,

We have two kids which in general we raised ourselves. I helped out by doing the feeds sometimes during the night and still got up at 5-30am to go to work. The problem today there are too many single parents and if they dont have their mobile phones and Mcdonalds are totaly lost. One or two dont even see the father of the child which does not help.

Its a generation gap thing Peter, we had nowt and when we had kids, we gave them, what we never had, they took that for granted and produced another generation who, wanted for nowt, They would not survive off their own efforts, they want instant gratification and mostly get it, So when a bit of hardship comes their way, they have a tantrum, We are seeing this now with, riots, protests, moaning, whinging, benefit claimers looking for support,
Its our fault, you , Me , the system , We created a generation of lazy , MacDonald chopping children who will not survive the pandemics of the future,

Everywhere you go you see big fat overweight young women,as you say no Dads are about but they all seem to have the latest mobiles..and as for the whinging about kids getting them down on lockdown,do they think the teachers are baby sitters..there's an awful lot of laziness about with these women who think the world owes them a living..I brought my three up on my own,hubby working a lot of nights and Mam working,and yes only used Terry nappies.

Momac we also used terry nappies bought from the pit baths and only used disposable nappies once. We went on holiday to the Isle of Man and did not fancy taking a suitcase full of nappies with us and using a launderette to wash/dry them Some girls dont know how to interact with their kids and just dump them at the front of the Tv or give them electronic games to play with. I once was on a bus were a young child was running riot and the mother was just chatting on the phone and was oblivious to what the child was doing, If the driver had to stop sudden the child could have got injured and then the mother would have blamed the driverAlso I dont agree with kids riding around a shop in the trolley more so during the pandemic they should be kept under control and if need be tethered to the parent

Being tethered to a parent reminds me of the harness and reins used for young children when I was a child. In fact we enjoyed them, pretending to be ponies. Some of them were elaborately decorated with pictures, tassels, bells etc.

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jo anne what you was saying about a mother today and in WW2 reminds me of a story
my father in law was once taking to Mother Teresa and they were speaking about the poverty in India compared to Israel and she said to him poverty in India is a loaf of bread and in Israel it's a tv ! so you are right you cannot judge a person!!! what my be easy for one person may be hard for another

Had four kids under six living in a two up two down for the first seven years of their lives....tin bath etc.....the young uns of today just wouldn't cope if they had to physically cook a meal.....No fast food or microwaves in my day. They think the world owes them a living......

You can still buy reins for young children, we use one for our youngest grandchild when out and about. It keeps him safe and stops us worrying.

wouldn't have lasted 2mins back in our day

BB they would have lasted because it was a different mind set.Women had babies and even if they were single learned how to cope.

all this talk about today's mum would never have managed back in out daty with what we had to cope with. generations are different. I couldn't have managed back in my mothers or grandparents day. How did they cpe when they didn't even have terry nappies and hot water? I dare say they thought I had it easy with all my terry nappies, plastic pants and a bucket of Napisan to keep them clean.

Plenty young people living off there kids backs .dont want to work .not a pan in the house send out for Takeaways every meal.Pubs full of prams .Manners none exsistant.
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