Started by: GOLDEN BEAR (3337) 

IS it me or what is there only this country got it? I also see its not taking long for all these EURO RATS putting the knife /boot what have you into BRITAIN again was similar when the foot and mouth hit us they were quick of the mark banning this and that but when it came to the french frogs with thier lamb and products what did they do? They defied brussels so if anyone can tell me why is this latest virus only in UK will enjoy your comments .

Started: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:06

Posted by: sonlyme (2786)

Its all over the world GB

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:11

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

sonly if thats the case why are country only banning folk from britain?

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:16

Posted by: First Mate (217)

Similar strains have been found in Denmark and Australia as well as South Africa and the Netherlands.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:22

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6593)

I think it is all over the world, but it is Britain who has found it first, but as of all the countries of the world, treating us as if we have got the plague

Well that is because we HAVE got the plague

Good news really, because by stopping travel in both directions, it will help stop the virus

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:33

Posted by: sonlyme (2786)

yes and it will hurt them just as much as us.They wont be able to send owt here

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6593)

Look at it this way though, and that is that with Christmas in the South being effectively cancelled, all the nosh they had on order, will now not be required, so in actual fact the delay in transport will probably help, because there is going to be loss of demand for products.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:43

Posted by: AngelWood (473)

I think it was gaffer who said 55% of what we consume is home grown. Take the South out of the equation and there is plenty of food for us up here.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 19:38
Last edited by AngelWood: 21st Dec 2020 at 19:41:46

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

I dont know where gaffer gets his stats and shopping from?
In my fridge ..
VineTomatoes ..Spain
Sweet Potatoes..Egypt
I managed to get some leeks which were homegrown.
Thats from two supermarkets!

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:08

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6593)

I think by this time this close to Christmas, all the Christmas stock is in the shops, only panic buying will strip the shelves, and another thing is that because of the Brexit thing, stuff from the continent has been being stockpiled in recent weeks and months, so I cannot see there being any genuine shortages, and of the Brexit thing, with what has happened today with the 'blockade' the EU businesses will be thinking about the loss of UK customers after Brexit if there is no trade deal, and that won't happen overnight, but when the world opens up to the UK those EU businesses will be behind the rest of the world, because if the UK can buy goods cheaper and with fewer tariffs or tariff free from none EU countries, then that is what will happen, and the EU will lose out.

Just watch how quick the channel ports will be back to fully opened for freight traffic

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:17

Posted by: broady (16580) 

And does anyone seriously think the Spaniards, French, Germans etc. are going to sit back and see their industries decimated when the UK leaves Europe. Just check the number of German made cars sold in the UK. No sales to the UK and that industry will be decimated. Are the Unions going to sit back and see their members thrown out of work? I think not.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:19

Posted by: gaffer (6627) 

It looks like the UK is getting the blame for alerting the world to the new strain of COVID.
The UK’s genetic sequencing capabilities are the best in the world. The odds are that although the discovery was made here it originated elsewhere.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:26

Posted by: First Mate (217)

Thank you gaffer. the voice of reason.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:47

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

There will still be German made cars available to buy in the UK. The only problem is that they will be a lot more expensive!
Anything is freely available if you can afford it

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:47

Posted by: Stardelta (8005)

Decimated William?


.Lets take for example BMW. In 2019 BMW sold a little over 2,520,000 vehicles worldwide, just under 170,000 of them were here in the UK. That is about 6.7% Have you considered the possibility that they and indeed all the other vehicle makers may choose to pull out of the UK market altogether and simply sell their vehicles in other countries where taxes and tariffs are more favourable and the end return is more profitable?

Probably not

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 20:50

Posted by: broady (16580) 

It’s not true that Germany sells most of its cars in Britain, although it does export more cars to the UK than anywhere else.

Germany sells about 14% of all the passenger cars it makes domestically to the UK, a little over one in seven. (That makes up about 18% of the passenger cars it exports, a little under one in five).

What my search revealed. Sadly I have no inclination to debate with your goodself.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 21:07

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Gaffer, as you're probably aware, the 'new strain' of coronavirus was found in a test laboratory in Milton Keynes some three months ago.
Do you know if they traced the sample to the donor and tracked his/her movements over the previous fourteen days?
Also, I've been told (by a reliable source) (not a man in the pub!) that, in laboratories, only one virus is tested for. This means that, when they are testing for covid19, they only 'discover' if covid19 is present or is not present.
In other words, they don't just search for anything and it is almost impossible to simply 'drop on' something which isn't being targeted.
ie: if someones blood is tested for sepsis the result would be yes or no. They wouldn't just accidentally 'discover' lukeamia, lymphoma or diabetes if they aren't asked to look for those.
I think the 'new' coronavirus is not linked to covid19 and, if this covid19 pandemic wasn't currently with us, it would simply be given another name and not publicised.
Apparently, there are many coronaviruses causing all kinds of diseases from common cold to severe respiratory diseases and these are just ones of many.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 21:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6593)

But the scientists know that viruses mewtate, so the laboratories who look for mootants, will be looking for it, hence they will know where to look, no doubt by examining the data they have on the spread of the virus, and if they notice a cluster of cases spreading quickly for no apparent reason, then that may suggest a more virulent form of the virus, so they will want to test the blood from those clusters.

Yoo see Tonker it is all in the data

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 21:51

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

If they were 'looking for it' then it's existance was pre-known. That would make it NOT new. It would be an 'existing' strain of coronavirus, like the rest.
But, they say it's a 'new' strain.

Take Ford, for example. They make c.a.r.s. There's lots of 'strains' of Ford c.a.r.s. Fiesta, Capri, Mondeo, Granada, Anglia, Cortina, Focus, Kuga, Mustang, C-Max and more.
They are all c.a.r.s., but a Capri is not a Fiesta. Although they are from the same family.

Things are being invented now, and I can't work it out. They're making a fuss over this to take our minds off other things!

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 22:12

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6593)

But doo yoo believe in UFO's being from somewhere other than here

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 22:14

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

"Aaaaye, they're from th'edge o't'galaxy and theyre after t'negative, tha sees"!

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 22:16


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