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Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

It looks like we won't be getting a trade deal with the awkward EU (surprise surprise)

Does it really matter ?

Roll on the 31st December, and then we can tell the EU to go and take a running jump

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54455261

Started: 15th Oct 2020 at 10:30

Posted by: gaffer (6627) 

TTS

History repeating itself.

When General De Gaulle said 'non' twice to oppose the UK joining the Common Market it was a delaying tactic. He wasn't against the UK joining but wanted the Common Agricultural Policy enshrined in European law first so that the British couldn't veto it when they joined. By extension it would later incorporate the Common Fisheries Policy.
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''De Gaulle pointed out that Australian, Canadian, and New Zealand farmers were richer than French or German farmers, they were also astonishingly productive and their produce was of higher quality. “Britain continues to supply itself cheaply in Canada, New Zealand, Australia,” he complained at one stage. “What will we do with European, and particularly French surpluses? If we have to spend 500 billion [francs] a year on agricultural subsidies what will happen if the Common Market can no longer assist us?”
Quote from a new book by Professor Vernon Bogdanor.
You can read a review of the book here..

Common Market

Replied: 15th Oct 2020 at 11:02

Posted by: PeterP (8311)

Simple enough question without the ifs and buts,Do we pay in more than we get out of it

Replied: 15th Oct 2020 at 15:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

Thank you very much gaffer for that link, I have now bought that book for me Kindle, and I am now reading it on my computer via my Amazon wotsit

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britain-Europe-Troubled-Stimson-Lectures/dp/0300245610/

Replied: 15th Oct 2020 at 16:56

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

"U.S., Britain upbeat as trade talks enter new round"

https://uk.reuters.com/u-s-britain-upbeat-as-trade-talks-enter-new-round

Now that is a funny coincidence, isn't it ?

In the same week that Britain tells the EU to go and take a running jump as regards a trade agreement, it is announced that trade talks between Britain and America are going very well, me thinks that other things are happening here

The US does not like the EU

Britain has already agreed a trade deal with Japan and other nations

Replied: 20th Oct 2020 at 22:14

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

Will you still be able to go to benidorm

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 08:29

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

Oh! dear.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 09:18

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Oh, My!

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 11:03

Posted by: whups (5449) 

it,s what you voted for . enjoy your chlorinated chicken & steroid beef.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 11:36

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

Buy British

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 11:42

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

Just make sure yoo wash your chicken before you cook it, I doo that anyway, salt and cold water will get rid of any chlorinated water, as will the cooking process, Hitchens wash their vegetables in chlorinated water, I am sick of telling folk that, I like the idea that a chicken has been washed in chlorinated water, yout drinking water out of the tap has been treated with chlorine, you stink of the chlorine you have been swimming in after yoo have been to the swimming pool ....

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 11:56

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

I buy British where ever possible.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 13:29

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

look for the red tractor

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 13:36

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

Not just red tractor. Look for the Union Jack.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 13:45

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 13:56

Posted by: baker boy (15523)

wash all your food regardless of were it comes from,whats worse than asda's irish beef for being tough and inedible .
never mind chlorinated chicken and beef from the usa,IF dont like its additives do not purchase the meat.
why the fear ? you do not need to consume the Products from the U.S OF A.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 18:23

Posted by: peter israel (1040) 

the problem is not when you are the one that buys the meat or chicken
it's when you go to a takeaway etc. etc and you do not know the source of the meat

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 19:49
Last edited by peter israel: 21st Oct 2020 at 22:56:38

Posted by: broady (16580) 

Do you mean you don’t know if it’s cat, dog or any other poor animal. I have been in the States quite a lot and have never detected any different tastes whether in a fast food place or one with knives and forks.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 20:05

Posted by: baker boy (15523)

most of the fast food places in wigan i would very wary about eating anything from.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 21:03
Last edited by baker boy: 22nd Oct 2020 at 21:43:34

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

The best beef comes from Brazil and Uruguay. They aren't in the USA.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 21:12

Posted by: broady (16580) 

Eh!!! What about Alberta AAA. Top notch. Will bring you a steak on my next trip across.

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 21:34

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 22:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

That is right about Asda Irish beef, it is like chooin shoo leather, as is all of Asda beef, I think that they are butchering old cows, instead of bullocks ....

Replied: 21st Oct 2020 at 22:42

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

You are correct about Asda beef.
Although I dislike beef myself, apart from in a Lasagna, Chilli etc.
My late husband wouldn't have the beef from there.
He said that you could sole your shoes with it

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 09:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

I actually find that beef from everywhere is the same, tough and horrible, and I think tonker knows why that is, but he won't say Y

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 09:40

Posted by: nanajacqui (3582) 

I don't eat meat at all now,just fish & veg,& lots of home made veg soup since jathbee gave me the idea a while ago

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:28

Posted by: fossil (6784)

I agree with Tonker about South American beef .It is delicious,a totally different product to the tasteless Irish and Scottish beef in my opinion.
And why Morrisons stopped selling Australian meat in favour of inferior tasting British products is beyond me,

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:39

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

I used to buy a nice thick slab of Rump or Sirloin and cook it in a frying pan in butter and garlic, along with loads of mushrooms, the resulting steak would be delicious, and tender, and utterly succulent, and served with proper home cooked chips, made with Lincolnshire Maris Pipers, and cooked in a proper chip pon on the hob, add a selection of veg to the dish, such as fresh frozen peas, and baby carrots, and served with lots of bread

Now it doesn't matter how I cook steak, when served it is like eating an old shoo

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:47

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

Glad you kept up the home made soup Nana. A very healthy dinner time meal and all of your 5 a day in one dish.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:50

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

Posted by: basil brush (14932)

Will you still be able to go to benidorm

eh

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:55

Posted by: nanajacqui (3582) 

I make a batch of soup & have some every lunch time,I use cabbage,spouts,broccoli,spinach,carrots & seasoning no salt,worcester sauce,garlic,tomato puree it's yummy

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 10:59

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

All of those Nana. With Kale and onion,but no sprouts for me.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:01

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

Why is Benidorm so important an issue with you Wally.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:03

Posted by: nanajacqui (3582) 

Jathbee I missed out onion,leeks & celery

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:10

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

sorry, not for me, to much rabbit food in it

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:20

Posted by: nanajacqui (3582) 

Jathbee....barley & lentils as well then when I've blended it I add chick peas

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:28

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

I sometimes add barley.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:49

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

oh no, it gets worser

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:51

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

No problem Wally. You stick with your artery clogging chips and spam butties and the stuff they dish up at your favourite pub. You'll be reet, or will you.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 11:54

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

no that was a treat for me, unless you or terry tiny tears can prove otherwise

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 12:00

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

Stalker alert. Stop following me and Nana, Wally.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 12:11

Posted by: basil brush (16183)

who do you mean, cagney and lacey?

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 12:12

Posted by: jathbee (10724)

If you so wish Wally.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 12:13

Posted by: baker boy (15523)

jathbee just seen your post re shoes,thats where irish beef comes from and ruddy old shoes at that.
whatever you say about m and s clothing ,the food is excellent.

Replied: 22nd Oct 2020 at 21:47

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

'Spain Brexit PANIC: National bank issues dire No Deal warning - Huge pressure on Barnier'



www.express.co.uk/Spain-brexit-news-Madrid-national-bank-EU-UK-trade-deal-

Meanwhile

'EU are you watching? Britain signs trade agreement with US – on path to secure major deal'

www.express.co.uk/brexit-news-us-uk-trade-deal-customs-agreement-

It's all good fun

Next will be the French fishermen, blocking roads and burning tyres

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 17:42

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Why are the fish theirs and the immigrants ours?

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 20:58

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

Yes, well that IS what they want isn't it, they want immigrants at the channel ports and coast to get to Britain, so that they don't have to deal with them, but they want our fish.

Shithouse French

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 21:40

Posted by: firefox (3239)

OUI!

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 21:52

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Non, rien de rien !

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:03

Posted by: firefox (3239)

WEE!

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:03

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

L'appat au sol est l'avenir!

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:06

Posted by: firefox (3239)

donc c'est.

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:23

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:29

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:34

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Strapadicktome!

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:51

Posted by: firefox (3239)

NON!

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 22:52

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 23:13

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 17th Dec 2020 at 23:28

Posted by: whups (5449) 

you voted this lot in .

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 11:39

Posted by: firefox (3239)

I'm not complaining, but you are.

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 11:41

Posted by: albion (272)

Plenty takeaways in Wigan are not cooking anything.They just buy Pizzas in bulk and warm them up and put money on them .They know our young uns will buy them.Too many in Wigan just ripping us off.

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 13:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

A towd thi

"Brexit: French fishermen warn they will 'take action' if UK doesn't get a trade deal"

news.sky.com/french-fishermen-warn-they-will-kick-off-if-uk-doesnt-get-a-trade-deal-

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 13:31

Posted by: whups (5449) 

wots the odds of this lot selling the fishermen down the river ? .

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 14:16

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

show the proof they will BILLY or are you scaremongering again...

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 14:18

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

tommy the frogs and ities were the only soldiers to have sunburned armpits during WWII we'll soon see um off..

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 14:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

The EU bullies certainly don't like being stood up too.

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 14:52

Posted by: whups (5449) 

the EU supporters certainly have a brain . you took us down this road laughing boy now your trying to wriggle out of it .

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 17:35

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

i voted out and damned proud of it whilst you welcome foreign scum with open arms...and everybody knows your the biggest LIAR on here even your mates....

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 21:09

Posted by: tonker (23077) 

LG, being anti-brexit and supporting membership of the EU has nothing at all to do with "welcoming foreign scum with open arms."
Foreigners (the wrong ones!) will still be welcomed by the UK.

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 22:42

Posted by: whups (5449) 

foreigners pay tax unlike you scumbag.

Replied: 19th Dec 2020 at 23:52

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

do you william?

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 00:00

Posted by: whups (5449) 

yes i do but you dont . when everyone starts paying thru the nose for food then lets see how proud you are on voting out .

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 11:25

Posted by: gaffer (6627) 

Whups
55% of the food we consume is supplied by UK farmers and growers, 19 % is imported from outside of the EU and 26% from the EU.
Thus the cost of 74% of the food we eat isn't affected by Brexit.
Food imports to the EU include quotas and tariffs from countries that don't have free trade agreements with the EU.
The main categories of food imorts to the UK are fruit and veg, beef and beverages. There must be scope there to get more home supplied food and alternative sources of supply for most of the rest.

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 12:25
Last edited by gaffer: 20th Dec 2020 at 15:30:55

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

Whups claims to pay tax again but won't say we're he works or post any proof of paying tax! The lying lazy bleeder has never worked since he was the 1st out on strike in 1984 he also says he gets free prescriptions which is funny as if he is working he should be.paying the only thing worse than a scrounger is a LYING scrounger

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 13:31
Last edited by laughing gravy: 20th Dec 2020 at 13:32:44

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

Posted by: gaffer (6542) [View gaffer's page]

"Thus 74% of the food we eat isn't affected by Brexit."

Thus, 26% is

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 15:20
Last edited by cheshirecat: 20th Dec 2020 at 15:21:15

Posted by: gaffer (6627) 

I've edited my post to clarify the situation.
The cost of 74% of the food we eat isn't affected by Brexit.

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 15:33

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

The sums are still the same. Even after your edit.
26% of the food we eat IS affected by Brexit.
Not to mention other things such as cars, electrical, household goods / appliances, etc. The list is endless

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 16:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

Cheshirepuss

But we will be able to trade with the rest of the world

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 16:38

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

We already do that now. And have done for years!

Replied: 20th Dec 2020 at 17:43

Posted by: whups (5449) 

anyone who wants to see the BIGGEST LIAR IS then go to the sports section & look at the blog named "chatty you win , i,m outta here . then claims he will never put another reply on there . LIAR. always asking for proof when he cant back himself up with any .

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 12:49

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

thats the point workshy i dont need proof unlike you as ive admitted my 2 yes 2 lies..anyway from now on you will be known as donald as you tell as many lies as trump....

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 14:35

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6595)

Cheshirecat

But as members of the EU we had to charge import tariffs on goods from none EU countries, at a tariff rate set by the EU

The world as changed a lot since we joined the original EEC in 1973

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 14:46

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

I know.
But will we have to charge import tarrifs from goods that we import from EU countries, at a tariff rate set by the EU, when we leave the EU?

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:37

Posted by: whups (5449) 

you,ve never provided any proof on anything with the exception of your chatty blog which proves your the biggest liar on here with your constant replies after saying you wasnt putting anymore on . as for being workshy you certainly take the plaudits for that . is your fat arse still hanging over your bicycle seat yet .

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:38

Posted by: sonlyme (2786)

It will be the same both ways cheshirecat

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:40

Posted by: laughing gravy (6932)

donald are you still a fat dart player..

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:43
Last edited by laughing gravy: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:47:38

Posted by: Domin0 (161)

The EU today is not what I voted for all those years ago, it was just for trading and was fine, and if it had stayed that way there would have been no need for another vote.

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 15:47

Posted by: cheshirecat (65) 

Posted by: sonlyme (2703)

"It will be the same both ways cheshirecat"
Thanks for the reply.
So we are no better off if thats the case, or are we?

Replied: 21st Dec 2020 at 16:17

 

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