Death by dangerous driving.
A 13 year old lad was walking along Old Road in Ashton yesterday afternoon when he was struck by an X type Jaguar.
Sadly he has died earlier today.
Both of the vehicle occupants fled the scene. A 15 year old was arrested yesterday and charged with causing serious injury by dangerous driving.
A 21 year old was arrested today. Both have been charged with causing death by dangerous driving.
The car finished up with back end into a side garden wall in the road leading to RL Hughes school.
Old Road has along that stretch has a 20 mph speed limit.
Started: 8th Jul 2020 at 18:42
God rest the little lads soul.
Hope the murderes get longer than the usual 3 years for taking his life.
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 18:47
Poor little lad, life cut short by scumbags.
Hope they get everything they deserve.
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 19:02
may he rest in peace and the persons responsible live in permanent torture for the rest of their lives,
RIP young Man
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 19:55
YET THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE AGAINST HANGING.. I'VE SAID BEFORE. IT WAS A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY WHO GOT KILLED. I WOULD STAND UP IN COURT AND TELL THEM "WHEN YOU COME OUT OF PRISON, IF I'M STILL AROUND I WILL KILL YOU"
I HAVE A GRANDSON THAT AGE AND MY HEART BLEEDS FOR THIS BOY'S FAMILY. I PUT MYSELF IN THEIR POSITION AND FIND IT UNBEARABLE TO LIVE WITH..
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 20:26
the law in these cases is in my opinion, far,far too lenient,but whatever sentence is passed on these two ,i am just lost for words to describe them.
however long, it will not be the life sentence of his parents and family,
rip young man.
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 21:06
Seeing the picture in WIGAN TODAY of this young lad in hospital broke my heart. I cant get the picture of him out of my head..
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 21:10
utter scum the driver is allover facebook comes from landgate apparently and drug dealer to boot!, firefox anything to say about your scummy mate not extraditing another piece of scum that killed someones son?
Replied: 8th Jul 2020 at 21:46
Heartbreaking R.I.P little one
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 07:51
Its not the Police who are to blame for soft sentencing.Police are fed up of the soft punishment people get.Working there socks off and know these scumbags are only going to get a slap on the wrist.I Blame the bent Judges.Time the Laws where changed.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 10:24
COULDN'T SLEEP LAST NIGHT I HAD THE VISION OF THIS LITTLE LAD IN HOSPITAL, WHICH WAS ON WIGAN TODAY, ON MY MIND.. I CANT BEGIN TO IMAGINE WHAT THIS BOY'S PARENTS AND FAMILY ARE GOING THROUGH. CAN YOU IMAGINE YOUR SON GOING TO THE SHOP FOR SOME SWEETS AND NEVER COMING HOME.. ONCE AGAIN I'LL REITERATE WHAT I'VE SAID HUNDREDS OF TIMES BEFORE "THERE IS NO DETERRENT"
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 12:23
Poor little lad,all his life in front of him to be taken by scum,and God help his parents who have to live the rest of their lives without him.. how do you cope with losing a child that just gone out to play football..I don’t know,I hope these thugs just drop dead where they’re stood,no need then for the soft judges. Rest in Peace.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 13:14
The soft judges will also have had parents.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 15:45
This thug has history,and should not be at large.
His type cannot be reabilitated.Lock him up,lose the key
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 16:06
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To repeat myself yet again The Liberal, Left Wing, Mamby Pamby, Civil Liberty, Political Correctness Howard League Human Rights, brigades have ruined this country
My granddad who was killed in WWE1, and my dad who was in W.W. 2 will be turning in their graves..
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 17:17
Three weeks ago, I was pedaling up Landgate lane and there was 3 young teens flying up and down the lane on illegal mini motorbikes.
These are illegal mini motorbike that the parents know they are riding about, so why dosent the neighbors who also live on Landgate get them reported.
A few months ago I was nearly knocked of my bike by a illegal uninsured motorbike rider, who came off at Martland mill and vanished into the Beech Hill council estate, his neighbours will also know he is riding along the canal bank on an uninsured motorbike, so why dont they get him reported because its parents like these whos kids will grown up just as bad as thew parents, maybe even worse.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 18:20
Let's hope they get a stiffer sentence than the Libyan illegal that killed that poor woman outside the infirmary. Suspended sentence.. i ask you.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 18:48
hurricane I didn't know that. When was up in court.. If I was the woman's family I would find out where he was and break both his arms and legs That's what we are being driven to VIGILANTE justice.. You break the speed limit or park in the wrong place.. No suspended fine for that..
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 19:09
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 19:28
Disgusting sentence that, not only should he not be driving..he shouldn't've been in the country...and walks away. The judge should be jailed along with him.
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 19:33
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Is it any wonder people take the law into their own hands absolutely Disgusting sentence He had a degree in L:aw?? Oh so that means he should be jailed and deported? No doubt the Human Rights people would have been involved?? No wonder we have a big crime rate we allow every bit of scum into the country, and if that's being racist Well I'm a racist..
Replied: 9th Jul 2020 at 20:10
The vermin that killed the young man is in court today.
Liam Wilson, 21, of Livingstone Street, Ashton-in-Makerfield has been charged with death by dangerous driving and assault by beating of an emergency worker.
Replied: 10th Jul 2020 at 10:17
I feel so so sorry for his family and friends This has really affected me. I can't sleep and see this little boy's face in the hospital bed every time I close my eyes. There are tears rolling down my face as I'm typing this.. There are no words to describe this VILE being. No use to society just a burden BRING BACK HANGING
Replied: 10th Jul 2020 at 12:31
Also a prolific burglar...not been out of nick long...his younger brother was with him.
As previously mentioned by members...I would bide my time also....expiry of the creatures life a certainty.
Replied: 10th Jul 2020 at 12:38
Theres always been scumbags but know theres thousands of um.
Replied: 10th Jul 2020 at 13:36
we cannot take the aw into our own hands ,but we do need the law to be just that,the law ,not some bleeding heart organisation.
Replied: 10th Jul 2020 at 19:34
3 days before that accident that car was stopped & they had no licence or insurance & they got off scott free ? .
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 10:22
Why wasn't the car impounded? You see these Police programmes on TV where, when a driver is stopped and has no insurance the car is impounded. Appears the police have been lax and on this occasion which has caused a boys life. I would like to see a statement from the Police as to why the car wasn't taken off the road??
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 13:51
Not only should this car have been taken off the road but the feral rats in the car should be taken from society.
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 13:58
I'm just awaiting the "He came from a deprived background" "His mother and father split up when he was young" The system let him down" etc. etc.
What kind of people are the Lawyers, who will no doubt be putting up a defense when he goes on trial? Who are these people who are trying to get him found innocent? They are no better than the people who they are defending.
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 14:35
I can't ever see the police doing this, letting someone without a licence and uninsured drive away, never.
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 15:04
''3 days before that accident that car was stopped & they had no licence or insurance & they got off scott free ? .''
Where did you get this information from, if this is true it should be investigated by the IPCC or whatever its called these days, its disgusting the way idiots like these get away with breaking the law and then carry on breaking it. It wouldnt suprise me if it was one of these that drove through the red light at Bryn and crashed into the railings, video on facebook somewhere.
And there are idiots like this driving round Ashton and Bryn area all night, you can hear the engines racing...where are the police?
Replied: 11th Jul 2020 at 15:34
from someone who knows them personely & lives on landgate . take it from me that it,s true .
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 00:22
These idiots get away with breaking the law because the locals dont report them, there are that many criminals now and not as many the police, so the police need your help into stopping them before things like this happens
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 06:36
I believe only the police could have stopped him, and no police officer would have allowed him to drive off, he would lose his job.
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 09:32
The police may have known that the vehicle was not insured etc and it was being driven by that character, but the police have to catch them in the 'act' of driving the thing, and then the full weight of the law can be brought down on them, including confiscating the vehicle and having it crushed.
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 10:37
Driving it it irrelevant. Any motor vehicle found on any public highway, or car park, uninsured, will be taken off the road and impounded. Any vehicle without tax will be reported. Without a current mot certificate, the registered keeper will be fined.
Confiscated cars aren't crushed. They're sold through auctions. (do you think the police would miss a catch on making money?)
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 10:50
there,s another way , maybe the are grasses for the police ? .
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 11:58
No,, yoo are missing the point, I know the vehicle can be removed from the highway if it does not have the relevant documentation on it, and I know that if there is any value in the vehicle it will be auctioned off, but a lot of these vehicles these idiots are diving round in are not worth anything.
Police will leave the vehicle there in the hope of catching someone driving it, almost like a trap, unfortunately if they do that, then things like this crash and loss of life can occur.
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 12:03
Hard to believe them tales...until they get the bobby back on the beat in numbers and cultivate local knowledge...we are on a loser...similarly shake the laws up they are getting stale and antiquated...and even the toerag n'eer-do-well's can calculate how long they will serve...like anything else..our system needs shaking up in all departments across all subjects....and judges should retire at 65...they have raped the system for long enough...they are out of touch with common day reality.
Replied: 12th Jul 2020 at 12:31
There is a gofundme page set up towards funeral costs, etc,. for anyone who wishes to contribute.
Fundraiser to the family of Jack Worwood.
Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 19:05
I don't want to sound hard, but why?
Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 20:04
WHY ? the family are ripped to bits, then a ' out of the blue' funeral charge, c'mon man, even you can see that
Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 20:33
To be fair to Tonker, I think the young man's funeral will be paid out of victims of crime?
That withstanding, I am damn sure the parents would rather have their boy with them than any amount of money.
Replied: 13th Jul 2020 at 20:38
Pled guilty t death by dangerous driving
The rat should be charged with murder.
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 16:21
The defence lawyer will try to prove that as you were full of drugs or alcohol, then you were in a state, where you were not responsible for your actions.
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 18:04
He should get at least 20yr,may get about 8 and be out in 5.
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 18:44
I don't know how these defence lawyers sleep at night
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 19:38
The thing is wether we like it or not that is their job - however it is the judges that hand down the sentence
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 21:05
Maximum sentence for causing death by careless or inconsiderate driving = 5 years.
For causing death by driving with no licence or uninsured = 2 years.
They have to prove he was driving dangerously for 5 years.
If they can't prove it, and he had no licence or insurance, he'll get 2 years.
The worst scenario would be if they cannot prove dangerous driving and he had a licence and was insured.
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 22:43
He was guilty of the first.
He was guilty of the second.
They can prove he was guilty of the third.
he will get 8 years plus because its a high proflie case.
My hope is fifteen years minimum and the judge sets an example
Replied: 7th Aug 2020 at 23:09
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