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Started by: LEP1950 (746)

I don't know how far you want to delve into siblings etc., but in the 1881 census James and Mary have the following children: Winifred (abt. 1858), Mary (abt. 1862), Clara (abt. 1864), John (abt. 1868) and Annie (abt. 1871). After an eight-year gap "sons" Frederick (b. abt. 1879) and Thomas (born 1880/81) are noted. This got me wondering as Mary would have been 55 at the time. I suspected that the children must have been their grandchildren and so I did some rooting around. I found the baptism records of both:

Joannes Fredericus Divine (born in Jul/Aug/Sept 1878)
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Joannes Fredericus Divine
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1878
Christening Place: Wath-upon-Dearne, York, England
Mother's Name: Winifred Divine

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04150-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1942372 ,Reference ID: item 4-10 p 181

and

Thomas Ernest Divine
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Thomas Ernest Divine
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 Mar 1881
Christening Place: Wath-upon-Dearne, York, England
Mother's Name: Maria Divine

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04150-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1942372 ,Reference ID: item 4-10 p 188

So, it seems that daughter Winifred was the mother of Frederick and daughter Mary the mother of Thomas.

On another topic, there are quite a lot of records relating to Devines born in India on familysearch, but I couldn't find one of a James born abt. 1823 with a father called John (known from marriage certificate). There is one tree on ancestry where the owner claims that the parents of James Devine were John and Emma and that Emma died in India in 1831, but this claim is completely without a source reference. Also the tree owner has Emma having a son three years after her death. He/she also has Clara marrying that Charles person I mentioned above and there are refernces to James in the 1861 and 1871 censuses that I think refer to someone else. I haven't yet traced James/Mary/Winifred in 1861 or James alone in 1871. I can only suggest that you remain sceptical about these findings.

LEP1950

Replied: 29th Sep 2014 at 21:12

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