General   (General discussion, talk about anything.)

Pewfall, YOU are confused. Respectfully, of course!

WHERE have I said serps started in any year?
My post, with dates mentioned, was relating to the M.P.S., not serps.
As was Whupsies. And he even told you! (Whups said, " i,m talking about the MPS & not state pension pewfall" )

What I'm trying to point out is, if you 'opt out' of paying into a scheme, you aren't going to get anything from it. But nobody is 'forced' to do anything.
Whups seems to think the NUM was forced to 'opt out' of serps, by the Tories. Of course, that's rubbish. Golden Bear even said the NUM ran a pension scheme.