General   (General discussion, talk about anything.)

Even now suit, modern mechanized forces are still in peril when committed to fight guerrillas in the middle of a civil war on rugged terrain, for example
the Afghan-Soviet War was a rare confrontation in history as it helped trigger the collapse of the greatest empire of modern times. Lessons learned from this conflict were gathered by both sides. Whatever else these lessons may show, the most fundamental of them is that no army, however sophisticated, well trained, materially rich, numerically overwhelming and ruthless, can succeed on the battlefield if it is not psychologically fit and motivated for the fight. The force, however destitute in material advantages and numbers, which can rely on the moral qualities of a strong faith, stubborn determination, individualism and unending patience will always be the winner. These may not be the optimum qualities always found in the armies of western democracies. I don't see a satisfactory end now either,certainly not a victory.
PS.Alexander, a good warrior but that rag time band was dire.