General   (General discussion, talk about anything.)

The government said that it would be easier to bore a new tunnel, rather than try and use any of the three old Woodhead tunnels, maybe they are right, and this is an interesting article about Woodhead LINK and that article was written when HS2 was going ahead in full, so the business case was for local services only, but if there is not to be an HS2, then that might shift to the possibility of using a reopened GCR and Midland route from Manchester to London, via Woodhead, serving middle England, and giving middle England a direct route to Manchester and the Northwest, without having to catch a connection to the WCML, and has well has improving transport links in the middle of England, along with providing another route for freight trains, that would also free up capacity on the WCML.