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But NOT the same personalities and ambitions of those in charge. Clearly they could have done better. Also clearly they could have done worse. Why debate a hypothetical about which we cannot know.

You are bringing party politics into an issue that is only slightly a partisan issue. (others in their own party also could have done better, done worse)

That Bojo and Rishi both pressed for an outcome that was totally opposed to what they sold to the electorate as their position, is of interest. Fortunately, our way of doing things did not allow them to pursue such an outcome. (unlike Brazil for example).