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welsh coach considered cheating!

Started by: kellysdad (inactive)

this bloke should be sacked! bloody disgusting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/15347253.stm

Started: 18th Oct 2011 at 11:28

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

But there was no cheating!

"We discussed it but morally I decided it was not right," said Gatland............"But in the spirit of the game, in the spirit of a World Cup semi-finals, I didn't think that was the fairest or the right thing to do."

You want someone sacking for ‘thinking’ of cheating!

The only ‘cheat’ on that field was the referee who issued a red card instead of the expected warning or yellow card


Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 12:09
Last edited by wigvet: 18th Oct 2011 at 12:09:31

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

If that statement had come from the England Football Manager Fabio - all hell would have broken loose in the press in particular - same can be said for the England Rugby Teams antics down-under.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 12:37
Last edited by veg grower: 18th Oct 2011 at 12:37:35

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

wigvet even thinking about cheating in his position is wrong!lets say he did and got away with it would he be able tolook himself in the mirror? i think not so is that a price worth paying? and whos to say he wont think about it again he needs to go and go now cheating bugger what gets me is why say what he was thinkin in the first place

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 13:00

Posted by: chatty (8853) 

Head of the thought police now are we?

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 13:06

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

chatty are you saying if say you were the manger of a football team you would cheat to get to a final?

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 13:08

Posted by: chatty (8853) 

No, i'm saying i can think what i like about anything.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 13:12

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

can i not?

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 13:15

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

A fair few people would be in Prison if thoughts could be read.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 14:06

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

Kellysdad – you are so distant from the game

Who will sack Gatland? He is revered by the Welsh and so is Shaun

First coach to be sacked should be Martin Johnson – England cheated on and off the pitch!

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 14:25

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

The Welsh game was ruined by the ref's decision.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 15:00

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

revered by the welsh,do you think by admitting he thought about cheating he has cast himself in agood light?i think he will be frowned upon from now on and so he should,if he thought about cheating he was willing to cheat given the opportunity, wigvet i'm not anti welsh or anti union i'm anti cheating it seems that by your posts you are not.

gwim you are spot on about thoughts getting people in jail
i'd like to see people on here phone the police and say they are thinking of blowing a plane up and see what happens!

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 15:18
Last edited by kellysdad: 18th Oct 2011 at 15:19:43

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

'he was willing to cheat given the opportunity'

But he was NOT willing to cheat was he?

'he will be frowned upon from now on'

take a look on th Welsh RU forums - there is now a campaign to get his contract extended!

like I said..... 'distant'

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 15:33

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

Warren Gatland doesnt sound very welsh when he opens his big gob, but kellysdad is correct he should be sacked,

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:04

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

Come off it

He ‘thought’ about cheating and therefore he should be sacked

I thought about going to bed last night with Sienna Miller;
should the wife kick me out?

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:26

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

of course she should
he should be sacked for opening his big gob and mentioning it that is called bringing the game into disrepute.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:29
Last edited by peawapp: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:30:30

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Wigvet, tell her, she might not kick you out, but she might kick you in.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:34

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

Gwim - I've more chance of going to bed with Max Miller!

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:40

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 16:59

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

What about two members of the England training staff being reprimanded for changing the balls?

It would appear that Gatland was not his own!

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 17:51
Last edited by ruddy duck: 18th Oct 2011 at 18:08:37

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

wigvet if he was not willing to cheat could you please explain why he contemplated cheating,and why he went public to say he contemplated cheating,if he had no intentions of doing so

wigvet phone your best mate up and say i'm thinking of asking your wife to have sex with me but dont get mad as i dont want to have sex with her but i was thinking of having sex with her and see what he says

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 17:59
Last edited by kellysdad: 18th Oct 2011 at 18:50:20

Posted by: baker boy (15613)

what do we call diving in the penalty area or waving your hand about after a foul as if you have a small card in it,answer CHEATING,what about jumping up and down like the tackler,s still hold of you or staying down when your face has been brushed by a tackler,s hand claiming you have been hurt in the tackle answer cheating and we see it every week. professional sport is ridiculed with it.even cricket has cheats in the game.golf is the only sport where pro,s dont cheat.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 18:56

Posted by: dennis dickinson (1131)

Warren Gatland is a Kiwi.
Warren Gatland admits that he 'considered' cheating.
The English team DID cheat.
There is a BIG difference !

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 20:08

Posted by: brynkiwi (717) 

CHEATING watch the dives taken in Barclays premier league if you want to see cheating,thats on the field, not thinking about it of the field

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 21:41

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

the fact is he thought about cheating, therefor he is not honest enough to remain in the job? go to your boss tommorow and say i'm thinking about robbing the safe or whatever and see what he says! just because its only thoughts does not make it right.

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 22:08
Last edited by kellysdad: 18th Oct 2011 at 22:09:28

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

and of course, you've never had a bad thought?

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 22:47

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

we've all had bad thoughts but if i was in a position of trust i would be expected to behave better,and i certainly would not make them public when i did not need to

Replied: 18th Oct 2011 at 23:14

Posted by: dennis dickinson (1131)

kellysdad :-
Have you ever thought about becoming a priest ?

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 07:02

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

dennis i've thought of being many things, but a priest is not one of um dennis i think, there i go again that if someone in a position of trust thinks about cheating he should not be in such a position.

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 10:37

Posted by: wigvet (3496)

Kellysdad a priest? He'd never be out the confessional box!

Gatland: ‘WE discussed in the box..... But in the spirit of the game, in the spirit of a World Cup semi-finals, I didn't think that was the fairest or the right thing to do."

Have you got that: THEY discussed it (that is the four coaches in the box) and HE decided no way!

And that is a sacking offence!!

Tactics? – YES Cheating? – NO

And for the final word....

‘The former England coach Dick Best has told the BBC he is amazed Gatland did not cheat, as it goes on all the time in the sport’

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 13:04

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Let him who is without sin...

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 13:23

Posted by: kellysdad (inactive)

i never said i was without sin but i will say i've never cheated anyone or cheated to win anything

and why even discuss it in the 1st place? you can bet your last quid if everybody in that box agreed he would have cheated?

surely he knew it was wrong to cheat before he thought about cheating so all that buncum about it not being right for the game is jus that BUNCUM!he knew very well what he would have done given the green light the mans a cheat and needs sacking!

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 18:35
Last edited by kellysdad: 19th Oct 2011 at 18:42:48

Posted by: baker boy (15613)

tom not bothered what you think about golf the pro players call the refs to tell them they have contravened the rules used to think that about snooker but i think thats bent know.

Replied: 19th Oct 2011 at 23:02

 

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