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Started by: jay_1 (14715) 

Why hasn't it gripped the nation?

It's on sky sports and occasionally on the BBC but why doesn't it grip the sporting nation.Why isn't there a Birmingham Bears team or Glasgow Gladiators?If the game is really that great,surely teams would have popped up everywhere.

What is RL's problem and how can RL fanatics like myself and a few others on here help to solve it?



This is a serious debate,so please no digs or taking it off topic.



Started: 18th Jul 2011 at 16:24

Posted by: bassman (3591)

Aye awreet Jay...................................

Replied: 18th Jul 2011 at 22:27

Posted by: laticat (105)

Cause most people prefer football

Replied: 18th Jul 2011 at 22:29

Posted by: laticat (105)

You asked why hasn't rugby gripped the nation all I did was answer the question what's wrong with that.

Replied: 18th Jul 2011 at 22:57

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Good point Laticat.

TOM is a racist babysitter.So he isn't to be taken seriously.

I don't think i'd miss you,if you did reply to my posts either TOM.I don't really think you contribute much.

Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 07:32

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

What is RL's problem and how can RL fanatics like myself and a few others on here help to solve it?

its a pity your not a latics fanatic








Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 08:35

Posted by: tommy c (592)

to get national recognition on a scale jay is asking for you need good media coverage everyday. ie. rugby league does very well in aus.football although in closed season still has plenty pages in the papers. my own paper the mail very rarily mentions league,but gives a good r union coverage.sky tv on live league games says it has a massive audience,but you only get the result on local tv. and no press discussion after match.its always been mainly a northern sport and i cant see it changing really.

Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 18:35

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 18:46

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Good points tommy c.

But surely the game can sell itself.It's the only game i know were supporters chant 'this is the greatest game in the world'.

Surely that must count for something.

Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 22:24

Posted by: tuddy (1171)

You have to remember that rugby league was origonally a breakaway sport played by northern working class rebels who had the audacity to disobay the establishment and ask for a share of the rugby union's money to compensate them when they had to miss work in order to play rugby. This led to the sport being suppressed, outlawed, and discriminated against for over a hundred years. When you consider the discrimination experiensed by the sport and it's players it's amazing that the game survived at all, never mind expanded.

Replied: 19th Jul 2011 at 22:55

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

Who cares as long as those like myself, prefer to watch what they consider to be a more entertaining and exciting game then the now overated game of football which now is being ruined by corupt rich people who only see it as money making business.

And does well considering the descrimination that stills exsist's in the establishment controlled media.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 09:26

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

RD you go watching Bolton.

One of the worst footballing teams in the premiership.If you still go,it can't be that bad..

Think before you post.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 10:30

Posted by: thiek c (1093) 

Take northwest clubs /london and birmingham out of the premier league and its not really nation wide

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 12:56

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Thiek but think how many professional clubs are trying to get in from all areas.

Do pro RL clubs exist in these places?

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 13:13

Posted by: peter48 (2751)

although its a minority sport according to jay
i love watching it and dont give a toss what others think.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 13:14

Posted by: thiek c (1093) 

Not many pro clubs but take a look at how much rugby league is played nation wide I was amazed at the places it was being played in.
Rugby League is a wide based sport but not on a professional basis, many sports are the same ,tennis ,cricket,union.
These sports have a small number of professionals but a great many amature players.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 13:30

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

One of the worst footballing teams in the premiership.If you still go,it can't be that bad..

Think before you post.


Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 10:30


Says a latics S/T holder..alleged

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 14:21

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

I do still support Bolton Wanderers, but since I came to live in Wigan in the late sixties, my first love became Rugby League and Wigan Warriors for the reasons, I have areaady stated.

And by the way, there is a worse team in the Premiership, but I wll not mention it's name or you will get nasty!

Like I said, everyone to their own taste.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 14:25

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Clueless Ken,strikes again.

What a dope that lad is.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 14:39

Posted by: jono1568 (413)

The popularity of any sport is complicated, especially if you are trying to convince others who prefer another sport

It needs to be exciting, entertaining for starters. RL has, in my opinion, got those attributes, but many of my friends (down here in Lincolnshire), don't like any form of rugby. Football and dyke jumping are the popular sports.

In the past RL has suffered massively at the hands of the media and establishment.

The papers and television have never supported RL as much as union. Union is played at toff level and is considered the game for gents to get involved in. It's hierachy detest RL, but admire some it's finer points so much they introduced some (sin bin for one)

The armed forces would until a few years ago, refused to have RL played on their bases.

As RL fans, most of us are not fussed about how popular it is compared to other sports, but given a fair crack of the whip, it would take off.

I think my highlight of RL was when the dual code matches with Bath took place. Interesting games, but to hear Dr Jeremy "pretty face" Guscott roll out excuse after excuse as to why he wouldn't play.....he knew he would have known what contact sport was all about after playing Wigan.

And those matches against Bath: Wigan thrashed them at league, and drew the second half at Union. Wigan also won the Union 7's. Bugger all in the press as I remember - but if Union had done the same at league, we would not have heard the last of it. The power of the media........

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 21:02

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I take your points on board Jono but lets look at the example of Quins/Fulham/London Broncos.

At one time,one of the most successful business men in Briton(Branson) owned them,even he couldn't get the team to take off!Their matches are still regularly covered on BBC radio in London but they find it impossible to attract decent crowds.I don't understand why?I don't understand why in South Manchester just a few miles from Warrington that nobody in a pub will even look at the screen when theres a big RL match on.And they only allow you to watch,if there is absolutely no other sport on TV.

I tend to think that RL diehards seem to think they are some sort of victim of a media conspiracy.A favourite phrase i've read on various message boards is 'we would be the number one sport in the country if we had wendy balls coverage'.

I don't know the answers,i just find it odd.How you can have a comparitive RL 'hotbed' in Warrington and no interest a few miles down the road.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 21:54

Posted by: jono1568 (413)

You answered your own question with the quote "we would be the number one sport in the country if we had wendy balls coverage"

If you took football coverage down to that of RL and RL to that of football, then you would see a rise in its popularity. That goes for any sport.

Football is the number 1 sport in this country, and the press will swarm over anything to do with it, both on and off the pitch.

Manchester has two of the biggest clubs in the world. No other sport can compete with that.

I think RL is a victim of media conspiracy. The Sunday Times, after a big Union match would have two broadsheet pages devoted to the match. There would be diagrams of a particular move, player ratings, and lots of type.
The same paper would hardly print anything about a Challenge Cup Final - usually just a column and a photo. The national papers anywhere apart from the North have bugger all RL news, yet have Union and football news on several pages.

As for London RL - getting across that damned city is a nightmare. The club has very few roots in a city with 14 professional clubs. The club are getting thrashed at the moment and the fans are fickle.

But take a look at Les catalans.....big support down there and the French love their league. Not always the case, as RL was banned by the Vichy Government, and although the ban was lifted in 1947, the game of RL in France was not permitted to use the word "Rugby" in its title. This was only changed as recently as 1991.

Proof indeed that RL is a victim of the establishment. Where else would you get that treatment, and why would the armed forces of this country actively discriminate against RL by prohibiting the game being played?

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 22:34

Posted by: laticat (105)

Football is worldwide also Rugby Union is more popular than Rugby League, so there is no answer to it.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 22:41

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

'You answered your own question with the quote "we would be the number one sport in the country if we had wendy balls coverage"

If you took football coverage down to that of RL and RL to that of football, then you would see a rise in its popularity. That goes for any sport'

Chicken and egg.They get the coverage because of the popularity.

RL failed as a game somewhere along.RL has been around long enough to have took off and dominated or at least competed as a second sport to football but it's failed.I'm not quite sure where.

Replied: 20th Jul 2011 at 23:25

Posted by: jono1568 (413)

I don't think RL has failed as a game. The game ie what happens on the pitch is great. The players at the top end of the game are some of the fittest sportsmen in any sport.

The working class image has stuck with the game. RL came about from a class struggle. It has remained there and will remain there as long as it is treated as a second class sport.

The media (BBC) made sure it never got popular by having terrible commentators. Eddie Waring loved RL, but his manner and accent did not endure the game to southern population. Ray French didn't help either. Both knowledgeable guys, but they never got through to the uneducated in t'south!
There is still a north / south divide in this country in many aspects, with sport being one of them. (although lots of Man Utd fans live down in the south

Although it is never spoken about much down south, I still smile when I ask folk "what is Wigan famous for?"

"Rugby League" is normally the answer.

Lets hope the CC this weekend will encourage more to watch this game.

Jay - I've yet to be convinced that you're a RL fanatic !

A fanatic is someone who has a belief or behavior involving uncritical zeal. You may like the game, but you are very, very critical of Wigan RL.

You are a football fanatic

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 00:28

Posted by: tommy c (592)

ime amazed the health and safety society who did away with playground rides havent tried to dismantle rugby. its a physical contact sport thats wriggled with injuries. as phil clark said its a special kind of kid who plays and enjoys it.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 10:49

Posted by: baker boy (15580)

there are rufc clubs throughout the land,they caught rl up and passed us,they have promotion and relegation,they encourage clubs .rl slaps aspiring clubs down by no promotion and relegation.super leagues what its all about end of story.look at the guy in charge at rugby rufc,hes a bit of a whelan ,investing in the club to get it into the highest tier of the sport,just took on the ex leeds rufc coach.if i was in a similar situation and wanted to say get whitehaven to the highest tier,i cant cos i havent got a franchise,i,ve got the will and the brass,but no franchise so whats the point.rl hq needs to reassess its approach to the lower echelon of rl now.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 11:15

Posted by: rodders (418)

tom: So how are Widnes getting in next year?

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 14:23

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

baker boy

Won't be long before it happens in the Premiership as franchising is now part of the British way of life!

The FA want the big fish in the big pond!

Blooming eck, I beginning to sound like Eric!



Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 15:37
Last edited by ruddy duck: 21st Jul 2011 at 15:55:33

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

RD,stop talking your usual negative nonsense.

Jono,i've friends from all over the country and the vast majority of them would fail to name one Wigan RL player of any era.They'd beable to name lots of past and present Wigan Athletic players(from the last six year admittedly).

I do think WiganRL and their players have brought more disgrace than glory on our town.From tales of Shaun Edwards eating his own sick in the bees knees,to drug offenses to GBH charges in Wigan town centre.Nothing to be happy with and nothing to celebrate.

I'm a Latics mon but aside from that i rarely watch football unless Barca,Arsenal or Utd are playing.I just like the style of those teams.I will generally tune in and enjoy most SL matches.I like Saints style of play but will generally watch any game that's is evenly matched.I do occasionally watch WiganRL from the stands but they don't and never will grip me and give me the emotional investment that the Latics do.

I just think i offer a fair and unbiased opinion on here against some of the biased and slanted WiganRL posters.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 19:07

Posted by: broady (17423) 

I thought you went to Fleetwood, Altrincham etc.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 19:46

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Yeah,i do attend lower league/non league football.

Alty and Morecambe usually,Broady.

I'll try and attend as many alty games as possible next year due to their rather unlucky demotion from the Blue Square last year and their need for support.

I was generally thinking about the televised stuff when i was answering that question.

On a seperate note..an Alty ST this year is dearer than a Latics ST renewal.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 19:51
Last edited by jay_1: 21st Jul 2011 at 20:09:52

Posted by: broady (17423) 

Not trying to make a comparision but if, for example, you buy a bottle of wine that costs more it is normally because it is of a better standard.

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 19:57

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Replied: 21st Jul 2011 at 19:59

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

'I do occasionally watch Wigan RL from the stands'

No doubt on one of the kid's free tickets!

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 08:47

Posted by: chatty (8588) 

As already stated on here, the "chaps" who run the media (as well as most other things in this country,and the country itself actually) all went to certain schools/universities were "rugger" was the game(union).As for the Wigan/Bath games in the mid Nineties it opened up Unions eyes.

What was abundantly obvious for a start was the difference in fitness levels of the respective sides. Second were the lines of running and defensive organisation, both of which come from the coaching that League players receive from a very early point in their education.And this has been the major area where Union has learned from its cousin.

The number of League coaches moving over may not be the same as the number of the players, but their influence has been much greater. Phil Larder and Shaun Edwards are probably the highest profile of these, but Joe Lydon, Mike Griffiths, Mike Ford, even Daryl Powell, are among those who have crossed the divide to earn their corn.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 09:11

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

chatty

Well put!

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 09:40

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

If 'rugger' is the game of these people.

Why is football and not 'RU' the sport most reported.

If they thought RL would sell papers they'd report more on it.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 16:40
Last edited by jay_1: 22nd Jul 2011 at 16:53:49

Posted by: chatty (8588) 

Football was at one time a working class sport.

Rugger is the game of these people, but football truley is a world wide sport awash with money, and in recent years has been "hijacked" by the middle classes!

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 20:01

Posted by: tuddy (1171)

If they thought RL would sell papers they'd report it more.

That must be why rugby league is well reported in the Wigan Observer, it must help to sell the paper, with Wigan being a rugby town. If Wigan was'nt a rugby town they would'nt report on it because the paper would'nt sell.

Anyone agree?

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 20:21

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

No,because plenty of complaints go in just for that reason.

If it focused totally on the Latics,it's sales would rise.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 21:36

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Why does the truth fly over your dumb head so often,TOM.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 21:51

Posted by: tuddy (1171)

Wigan Observer must be trying to self destruct then if it's delibrately keeping it's sales down by not focusing on't latics.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 21:52

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

Tuddy rugby town another idiot get a life its not a rugby or football town

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 21:54

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Trev,you are talking to people with cement heads.

Why does everything fly over TOM's head.

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 22:04

Posted by: tuddy (1171)

Dose'nt look like you'll get an answer to your question TOM,

Replied: 22nd Jul 2011 at 22:08

Posted by: shauniebabe (832)

There's a good article about the 2 sets of fans in the new mudhutter summer special that's free to download on thisnorthernsoul.co.uk

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 07:44

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

shauniebabe

Seeing that it is a Latic's fanzine, is it giving a opinion which is fair and neutral to both sets of supporters?

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 08:36

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

Come on ruddy what do you think!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 08:41

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

A great article Shaunie.

Some quotes from it

'Yet still the hatred flows. I’ve seen Wigan Athletic referred to as Africa Athletic on RL forums when
there’s only been one African player in the squad. Make into this what you will, I would say it’s
outright racist given the number of black faces we have in the squad,'

'I don’t
like bullies and whenever I see someone in town wearing
the colours of Wigan Rugby, I see someone wearing a shirt
that represents a group of evil bullies who tried to wipe
out their town’s football club so that they could have the
town to themselves. Quite how they continue to portray
this brainwashed image that they are the good in the town
and Latics are the bad and should be treated with derision
is beyond me after everything that has gone on. I do find
this largely unforgivable'

It's a must read.A well written unbiased piece of work.

Well done to the Mudhutter guys.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 08:57

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

So much for being PROUD Wiganers,calling themselves "mudhutters"

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:09

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

Kenny WE COME FROM WIGAN AND WE LIVE IN MUD HUTS

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:15

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

YOU are what YOU are I suppose trev

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:26

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

trevwafc

The more civilised Latic's supporters live in proper houses.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:40

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

You read the article RD?

You being an out of towner it may be interesting for you reading what real Wiganers think of the RL?

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:50

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

Kenny you hit the nail on the head there Iam what Iam LATICS SUPPORTER THROUGH AND THROUGH

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:57

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

No, and I bet you wrote the article if it's anything to do with having a swipe at Wigan's No one game and club.

Get back in your mud hut with the cockney latic.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 10:57

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

To be honest RD,i don't think i could write an article good enough to get into Mudhutter.

The standard is very high.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:03

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

TOM i rarely respond to your childish mutterings but most of the main contributors to Mudhutter have had books published.

Wigan Athletic just attracts a better class of fan.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:07

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Does everything fly over your head,TOM?

I'm not surprised,i recall you using the 'Africa Athletic' phrase.

You're not fit to babysit with your racist outlook on the world.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:12

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

And prey tell us, what famous authors write for a rag with a name like 'Mudhutter'.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:12

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Oooerr RD,twisting my word as usual.

One of the regulars reads this board,i imagine he may just answer for himself.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:15

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

Are they that well known, you have not to mention their names?

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:16
Last edited by ruddy duck: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:21:34

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Are you stating that you don't believe that writers on Mudhuts haven't had books published?

Let's just establish clearly what you're inferring?

Or are you too lazy to look it up yourself?

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:19

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

What books have been published by those who contribute to a rag like 'Mudhutter'

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:23

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

No you used 'tree swingers' which you tried to edit out but you've used 'africa athetic' as well.

I recall you even tried to deny using the term 'tree swingers'.You've seem to have got a short term memory problem.These problems often occur in alco's and dope heads.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:25

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

Still waiting for a answer.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:28

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

The bigoted lying racist comes out with his usual drivel.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:28

Posted by: mal75 (1349)

out of interest jay what are the books? i have tried google and cant find anything.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:30

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Pies and Prejudice,Punk Football,Mild and bitter were the days.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:36

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

jay1

Not exactly famous authors outside the North of England are they.

In fact, I would say less well known then Wigan Warriors and Rugby League which you claim is not known outside the same area.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:49

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 



Did i say they were Dan Brown?

Comments like this do you no favours..

'What books have been published by those who contribute to a rag like 'Mudhutter''

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 11:53

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

The racist babysitter now trying to bore people to death.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 12:27

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Only a tool like TOM could believe that calling a black person a 'tree swinger' is not racist.

The lad is to be pitied...

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 13:26

Posted by: tuddy (1171)

Adolf Hitler had a book published.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 14:01

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Hilarious,(im guessing Charles Jones is black) so..i've got a black 'friend' so 'i' can't be racist and 'i' can refer to Latics black players as 'tree swingers'

You are a racist p**** son.

Sorry lad but my opinion of you hasn't and will never change.

I'd quit with this line because it really isn't doing you any favours...

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 14:17

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

If you feel your comments aren't racist you can take up my challenge of asking a few black people in the town centre what they think?

Just ask 'if i referred to you has a tree swinger' would you be offended?

Let's see how you do...

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 14:21
Last edited by jay_1: 23rd Jul 2011 at 14:23:08

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

townofmemories

Be carefull what you say about foreigners as he is one of those people who has jump on the bandwagon of making money out of them.

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 15:13

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Not read much of the latter part of this dross but I am puzzled about one thing. Why is saying that Latics have a load of BLACK players being racist, I think you'll find it is true

Replied: 23rd Jul 2011 at 20:54

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

'If you feel your comments aren't racist you can take up my challenge of asking a few black people in the town centre what they think?

Just ask 'if i referred to you has a tree swinger' would you be offended?

Let's see how you do...'

Still no answer from TOM..

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 00:23

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I just wondered how your 'comedy talent' goes down..

Please let me know...without lying.

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 00:39

Posted by: shauniebabe (832)

If you read the article id say its quite even.

Good read for fans of both games.

Ive got to say though fair dues to the fans of Wigan Warriors yeaterday they certainly made there presence felt in the town centre before the game. Especially the one that attacked a yellow balloon and the one that screamed at a 50 plus women with a blue and yellow scrunchy in her hair. Then again they did proclaim to be ULTRAS! Do they have any idea what Ultras actually are?

As for the comments regarding fans fighting at the train station try taking a closer look at the article at the time and it was Man City fans, What about the annual Warrington vs Wigan trouble? The rampant use of Steroids, The cocaine and drug problems of 2 of Wigans greats plus the numerous Wigan and Ex Wigan Rugby players arrested for assault!

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 10:58

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Shaunie,TOM doesn't like dealing in the truth of facts.

TOM,let me know how this comedy routine goes down and how many black people are 'rolling about laughing' after you call them 'treeswingers'.

After all you seem to think if they don't laugh with you,they are just lacking a sense of humour.

You're digging yourself an even big hole that usual here lad.Keep digging if you want though.

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 11:37

Posted by: shauniebabe (832)

No mention of the Warrington Wigan annual event? What about the pooor girl that got her Jaw broken last year or the trouble, swearing and racist chanting that goes on every game in the south stand at the dw when the Rugby is on?

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 14:10

Posted by: bassman (3591)

This "tit for tat" situation can go on forever.Just accept that, in most sports, you will always have idiots that grab headlines for all the wrong reasons......never nice, but true.

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 14:28

Posted by: upthetims (6577)


Shaunie,TOM doesn't like dealing in the truth of facts.

TOM,let me know how this comedy routine goes down and how many black people are 'rolling about laughing' after you call them 'treeswingers'

Jay,go in the G.P.O when the are drawing their wedge,no wonder they are laughing at us.Use the N.H.S without ever contributing a penny to this system,and get twice as much money as the indigenous population.No wonder racism is rearing its ugly head.Always agreed with accepting Political refugees but not these economic migrants who do nothing to enhance this country.Just decided that multi-culturism isn't working,and we are storing up a whole lot of crap for the future.Can't get legal aid nowadays as the system has been swamped with Illegals appealing extradition,scandalous state of affairs
Btw,watched the rugby yesterday and more excitement and passion engendered than three and a half seasons watching latics

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 16:13
Last edited by upthetims: 24th Jul 2011 at 17:02:11

Posted by: mal75 (1349)

upthetims
best post of the month

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 16:46

Posted by: upthetims (6577)




May be construed as racist,but if you could ask the near million people killed defending our freedom in two world wars,I think the answer would be that they fought for Britain.And I also realise that many from the empire fought,but they should try and change the systems in their own countries,and not look to here for hand outs.We are supposedly skint,although bankers went a long way to disproving that fallacy

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 17:07

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

UTT so referring to black people has'treeswingers' is fine?

You're far more intelligent than that,don't associate with k**** like TOM.It's little wonder he is a babysitter.Although i'd never let him babysit my kids with his obscene views.

This is a bloke who thinks black people who don't laugh at his 'treeswinger jokes' have no sense of humour.

You're a FAR better poster than him UTT.

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 18:11
Last edited by jay_1: 24th Jul 2011 at 18:12:59

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Coming from a dullard bore.

No wonder you can only find employment has a babysitter lad.Nobody else would have you.

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 18:49

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

mal75 get a life stop crawling sado

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 18:57

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

We've got the dope Trev.

Easy..

Replied: 24th Jul 2011 at 20:13

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

Posted by: jay_1 (6783)
RD,stop talking your usual negative nonsense.

Jono,i've friends from all over the country and the vast majority of them would fail to name one Wigan RL player of any era.They'd beable to name lots of past and present Wigan Athletic players(from the last six year admittedly).

I do think WiganRL and their players have brought more disgrace than glory on our town.From tales of Shaun Edwards eating his own sick in the bees knees,to drug offenses to GBH charges in Wigan town centre.Nothing to be happy with and nothing to celebrate.



Do you have proof of the alleged sick eating incident? Did you witness it in person? Or are you just hiding behind your keyboard and making accusations? Or is it your usual " I know someone" Who saw it. You really are a sad individual aren't you?

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 01:41

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

I don't expect him to back up his comment it would take a man to do that and he isn't a man, end of.



Oops! I forgot he is a trained fighter and a boxer! I better be careful! LMFAO.

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 02:12
Last edited by ahcawntspeyk: 26th Jul 2011 at 02:14:47

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

Rugby League is the dominant winter sport in NSW and QLD , by far the highest rating sport on cable TV in OZ and is expanding into the traditional AFL areas , but to be fair AFL has one Sydney team soon to be two . All genuine sports fans enjoy high level sport , Trolls just come on to stir , the Troll on here , well he would not last 5 minutes with D grade players of RL in OZ .

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 04:20

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

c*ntspeyks,it was posted on here by another poster..

Search for it..if you know how..

Aussie,what's that got to do with why RL hasn't gripped our nation or the world outside of Aus?

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 07:08

Posted by: kenny (inactive)


jay_1 (6785)

c*ntspeyks,it was posted on here by another poster

You should be reprimanded for this vile comment,it's obvoius what you are meaning is,and you have the nerve to call other decent posters who come on here

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 07:16

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Awww dopey Ken is getting upset.You could add 2 plus 2 and get '5' every time.

I've had to read your foul mouthed drunken remark farr too often.I can see just your furious little red face now.

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 07:27

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Is TOM's short memory problem due to dope/booze or both.

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 07:32

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I'm sure one is heading your way with your 'treeswingers' comedy routine.

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 07:38

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

jay

Correct yourself here little 'un,you do not HAVE to read anything on here,but you decide to stick your size 12's in anyway

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 16:00

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Empty headed Kenny makes himself look like the mug he is,YET AGAIN.

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 17:53

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

And again

Replied: 26th Jul 2011 at 19:03

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

What has the Troll been taking ? Is he losing it altogether?Feel sorry for him a sad case , who needs to get out more and meet real people .

Replied: 27th Jul 2011 at 01:58

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

aussie94

HIM get out,that would probably mean spending money,come off it mate

Replied: 27th Jul 2011 at 07:02

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

And again.

What a mug,dopey Ken is.

Replied: 27th Jul 2011 at 10:47

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

Why hasn't it gripped the nation

probaly the same reason the local football team has not gripped the town


Jono,i've friends from all over the country

that smells back, pooooooooooo


and the vast majority of them would fail to name one Wigan RL player of any era.They'd beable to name lots of past and present Wigan Athletic players

not that old chesnut again



'If you feel your comments aren't racist you can take up my challenge of asking a few black people in the town centre what they think?

Just ask 'if i referred to you has a tree swinger' would you be offended


you mean like you did when you went in the last orders and said you thought they were all on benefits and you when you called some kids scummy scousers,oh know you didnt say anything did you,you came on here and said it


why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you as being on benefits' would you be offended?

or

why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you being scummy scousers' would you be offended?

or

why donnt you go up to kids who are wearing wigan warriors tops and say'if i referred to you being a bully' would you be offended?


do you know why the low life lying troll wouldnt say them things...........because he wouldnt be hiding behind a keyboard



I'm surprised he's not had a pasting off someone he's made false remarks about

cos he wouldnt say anything face to face


Oops! I forgot he is a trained fighter and a boxer! I better be careful! LMFAO.

ye watch out because he goes in the springy........even though all the regulars have never heard of him


What has the Troll been taking ? Is he losing it altogether?Feel sorry for him a sad case , who needs to get out more and meet real people

@roy


Replied: 28th Jul 2011 at 14:43

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

It always amazes me how easyyyyyy you are to tease,Weasel.

Internet message board breakdown alert.

Replied: 28th Jul 2011 at 19:42

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

No sensible reply again walshy,did you expect anything else

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 06:46

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

Not even a change of a smiley face!

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 08:42

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

he cant really say anything else kenny

he always says that when hes getting shown up.....which is all of the time

have you noticed........no reply to the questions

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 13:09

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

walshy/kenny/ ruddy/ are you the same person

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 19:29

Posted by: fossil (6914)

trevwafc
No chance ,I know Kenny,lovely lad

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 22:19

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I doubt it,Fossil,

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 22:33

Posted by: fossil (6914)

jay_1

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 22:45

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

fossil

Me and you know each other,and have done for years,thanks for that comment,and likewise............total respect for yourself

Incidentally.....Sam Tomkins is a world beater,no matter what narrow minded people think,the proof is there to see



You come out with some dopey comments but 'WORLD BEATER'

Until then,he is unproven in my eyes

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 23:12
Last edited by kenny: 19th Aug 2011 at 23:04:51

Posted by: fossil (6914)

Kenny ,
Glad to see your spelling improves when you have done a shift at HJ,s

Ignore the winders and stalkers

Replied: 29th Jul 2011 at 23:18

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I've seen zero evidence of Kenny being lovely.

Also Butthead(Ken),how can Tomkins be a world beater when he is playing against second rate Aussies and a bunch of lads who live near the M62.

You come out with some dopey comments but 'WORLD BEATER'..

When he goes to RU,let's see how he does in the proper rugby game.

Until then,he is unproven in my eyes.

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 08:41
Last edited by jay_1: 30th Jul 2011 at 10:22:20

Posted by: bassman (3591)

jay, your original post states you are a RL fanatic, yet you seem very keen on running down your hometown club and players..........."fanatics" give support whatever happens.

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 10:47

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Bassman..i just speak the truth.

I'll be at Wembley cheering them on,if they get there. I just don't think they are world beaters.

Let's see how Sam developes and how he does in the tests against the Aussies.

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 11:07

Posted by: bassman (3591)

Fair enough Jay, but why isn't the same "truth" forthcoming when matters football are discussed. I'm merely going off your posts...

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 14:08

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 



Hope you're well,Bassman.

Are you going to make the journey down to Wembley if WiganRL get there?

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 14:20

Posted by: bassman (3591)

Doubt it Jay, still coming to terms over my loss....thanks for asking anyway..

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 14:54

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Ok mate,i'd have definitely bought you a pint.

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 15:40

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

See how far out this quote is jade,Sam Tomkins..MAN OF STEEL 2011

My opinion is that he is a world beater,you dont like it ?? TUFF

Butt you had to stick your oar in,after I was having a chat with another worlder

Any wild and outrageous predeictions for the forthcoming season about your team,or will you wait till there's about 3 games left,so as not to make a bigger breast of yourself,coz you wont be the only one



jay_1 (7037)

Wowwww...Man of Steel.


Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 16:30


Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 16:03
Last edited by kenny: 19th Aug 2011 at 23:09:50

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

'Butt you had to stick your oar in,after I was having a chat with another worlder'

Butthead,this is a public message board.

I generally have private chats by e-mail,on the phone or in person.

Wowwww...Man of Steel.

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 16:30

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

Bassman..i just speak the truth.

I'll be at Wembley cheering them on


Posted by: jay_1 (6171)
Daffy i'd love to support the Worriers but they have done nothing but bring shame on this town for years.
I'm tired of reading about the disgraceful behaviour of Worriers players.

Replied: 12th Jan 2011 at 09:11




I generally have private chats by e-mail,on the phone or in person








Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 18:04

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

I take it you have NO predictions

Replied: 30th Jul 2011 at 19:08

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

you mean like you did when you went in the last orders and said you thought they were all on benefits and you when you called some kids scummy scousers,oh know you didnt say anything did you,you came on here and said it


why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you as being on benefits' would you be offended?

or

why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you being scummy scousers' would you be offended?

or

why donnt you go up to kids who are wearing wigan warriors tops and say'if i referred to you being a bully' would you be offended?


do you know why the low life lying troll wouldnt say them things...........because he wouldnt be hiding behind a keyboard



well....have you asked any of the above questions

Replied: 31st Jul 2011 at 12:34

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Beavis,what is it about quoting from an article and not understanding that they aren't the posters words that go by your very small brain?

'why donnt you go up to kids who are wearing wigan warriors tops and say'if i referred to you being a bully' would you be offended?'

Beavis,you are truly the dumbest human i've ever come across.

Replied: 31st Jul 2011 at 22:10

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

i'll take that as a no then

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 08:48

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Beavis,what is it about quoting from an article and not understanding that they aren't the posters words that goes by your very small brain?

'why donnt you go up to kids who are wearing wigan warriors tops and say'if i referred to you being a bully' would you be offended?'

Do you understand,dumbo?

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 11:16

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

so you've not been to any of the people and asked the question

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 11:23

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

What a thicko you are lad.

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 12:12

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

whenever your ready lad

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 12:18

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

I think it is a resounding NO walshy

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 14:36

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

I think that's a resounding no to understanding basic english from Beavis and Butthead.

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 14:39

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

I think it is a resounding NO walsh

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 14:40

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Butthead is a very apt name for you lad.

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 14:57

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)


whenever your ready lad

Replied: 1st Aug 2011 at 16:37

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

Posted by: jay_1 (6863)
c*ntspeyks,it was posted on here by another poster..

Search for it..if you know how..

Aussie,what's that got to do with why RL hasn't gripped our nation or the world outside of Aus?

Yes the so called sick eating incident was originaly posted by another poster, was Edwards named as the culprit in that post?

Replied: 3rd Aug 2011 at 04:41

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you as being on benefits' would you be offended?

or

why didnt you go up to them and say 'if i referred to you being scummy scousers' would you be offended?

or

why dont you go up to kids who are wearing wigan warriors tops and say'if i referred to you being a bully' would you be offended?


well............have you asked any of these

Replied: 4th Aug 2011 at 18:40

Posted by: hieronymous (1755)

Why hasn't RL gripped the nation?

For what it's worth I'll offer my two pennorth.

In my humble opinion the game isn't fluid enough. It's far too stop-start. Every time a player is tackled the game stops. I know RL fans don't see it that way but that's my opinion.

The answer? Don't really know without making it, effectively, union.

As for the media, someone has already mentioned "chicken and egg". Would there be more coverage if the sport was more popular? Or would it become more popular if there was more coverage?

I have my doubts either way. I can't see it becoming any more popular than it is.

Replied: 6th Aug 2011 at 20:58

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (650)
Posted by: jay_1 (6863)
c*ntspeyks,it was posted on here by another poster..

Search for it..if you know how..

Aussie,what's that got to do with why RL hasn't gripped our nation or the world outside of Aus?

Yes the so called sick eating incident was originaly posted by another poster, was Edwards named as the culprit in that post?



I Know how to search, do you know how to back up your libelous post?

Replied: 7th Aug 2011 at 02:04

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

In my humble opinion the game isn't fluid enough. It's far too stop-start. Every time a player is tackled the game stops. I know RL fans don't see it that way but that's my opinion.

The answer? Don't really know without making it, effectively, union.

What a post,league is too stop / start ??
Is this implying union ISN'T

Replied: 7th Aug 2011 at 09:49

Posted by: hieronymous (1755)

I think you may have misinterpreted my post, kenny.

I was merely expressing my opinion in response to the OP.

It wasn't my intention to imply anything about Union.

Perhaps I should have said ".....without making it, effectively, a form of union"

Replied: 7th Aug 2011 at 20:15

Posted by: kenny (inactive)

Point taken mate,but even a form of union is somewhat stop / start,much more so than league

Replied: 8th Aug 2011 at 07:12
Last edited by kenny: 8th Aug 2011 at 07:19:06

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

Still waiting for jay to justify his sick eating post... Come on son where are you?

Replied: 9th Aug 2011 at 00:44

Posted by: ahcawntspeyk (5872)

bump

Replied: 14th Aug 2011 at 03:16

 

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