Leigh chairman quits

Started by: i-spy (15034) 

anybody know why Arthur Thomas has left the board. Too much excitement

Started: 16th May 2011 at 22:33

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

Arthur Thomas has been a breath of fresh air to the Leigh Centurions,he has kept the club going in the last four years and we are all very grateful for that,it was Arthur who has contributed out of his own pocket and got Leigh were they are today with a very very good Championship team,He has deserved his well earned retirement and we all wish him well, but Arthur is now 70 plus and wants to hand over to a younger man, there has been a deafening silence from the club,since his announcement yesterday.I wonder if there is an investor waiting in the wings,what is certain is that we could do with at least another thousand through the turnstiles every home match. but the Leigh public seem to be apathetic and I dont know why,all I can say is that the days of my childhood in the 40s and 50s when there were regularly 13,14,15,000 and more going to Hilton park have gone for ever,too many other attractions I fear,however Peawapp as long as his heart is ticking over will be watching Leigh and I know a lot more like myself. so what will happen without Arthur I know not but he has done well and I wish him the very best in the future.

Replied: 17th May 2011 at 15:54

Posted by: scoop (3285) 


nice to see such a good piece, about a person that has sat on a board, and put their hands in their pockets, to help a club to survive the bad times and to help them pull through. he does deserve to have a long and happy retirement.

Replied: 17th May 2011 at 22:40

Posted by: peter g (2840) 


Replied: 18th May 2011 at 14:10

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

I did have you on ignore then I decided to unignore you but I'm afraid that you are still a brainless ignoramus so it'e back to ignore with you, you brainless mental case

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 14:48

Posted by: peter g (2840) 

PEAWAPP Cant stand the truth you half brained Wigan kickout I hate Leythers as much as you hate us Wiganers

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 14:56
Last edited by peter g: 18th May 2011 at 15:00:20

Posted by: aqui aqui (439)

I have heard today that the Lythers have serious cash flow problems, and Mr Thomas is not prepaired to bail them out with his own money any more. Mr Robbie Hunter (or whatever he calls himself these days )is stinging them for £1000 a week and has not played for 3 months. Also thier Salford bound coach recieves £2000 a week. It seems very strange that thier Chairman, who I believe is in perfectly good health, should give up his position half way through the season when his team is riding high at the top of the league

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 16:03

Posted by: stars (430) 

come on peawapp youre the man with all the info at leigh.lets hope thats not the case that aqui aqui is protraying

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 17:07

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

if I knew the situation I would tell you but I dont so I can't,but you musn't listen to rumours about Millward and Salford,Steve Simms hasn't flown to Oz for the good of his health if I get to know owt on friday when I visit I will let you know

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 17:34

Posted by: stars (430) 

cheers for that peawapp.lets hope it doesent go down the pan ,leigh seem to be getting things together on the field.

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 17:48

Posted by: aqui aqui (439)


I agree with you, It is only rumours about Millward, but I believe the other information is not far off correct as it comes from someone within the club. By the way,I wish Leigh all the best, they have a great team and I would love to see them in Super League.

Replied: 18th May 2011 at 18:44

Posted by: owd fettler (49)

not posted for a while but having read peter gs reply to my old adversary peawapp it leads me to believe that peter g is a little disturbed he seems to have a major problem with Leythers by the way neither peawapp nor me are Leythers we are Lowtoners,but peter g just seems to read peawapps posts and then put his own interpretation on them,He needs to read them properly before replying to them.I have no love for peawapp having had many run ons with him in 60 odd years but peter g is something else,peawapp once asked him if he was only 18 months old, I reckon he's about 9 months old grow up peter g you stupid thick crust munching idiot

Replied: 19th May 2011 at 16:04

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

I have today visited the sports village and have spoken to the people in the know and they have told me to say that it is "Business as usual" at the Centurions they are presently engaged in dialogue with a consortium of local businessmen and hope to release a statement after further talks in the next few days ,this is some positive news methinks and I am now feeling much happier

Replied: 19th May 2011 at 16:22

Posted by: aqui aqui (439)

Good, I hope it all works out well for the lythers.

Replied: 19th May 2011 at 19:00

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

ah some support from my old adversary owd fettler, thanks for that you must be mellowing in your old age,but I wouldn't worry to much about peter g. he obviously at some point in his pathetic existence has had a fight with a Leyther and judging by his bitter posts about the Leythers he came off second best, he is unintelligent and lacking in brain power I have him on ignore which is the best plan for peole like him,

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 10:22

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


Watched the game with Sheffield last week.

Great performance by Leigh.

Looks like our two local rugby teams are going to keep the Wigan area on the map!

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 10:33

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

yes your right there ruddy I went to Sheffield of course but like Leigh you couldn't pay cash had to get a ticket to get in,why they dont have a cash only turnstile defeats me, doesn't bother me of course with a season ticket but I do hear plenty of moans from visitors when they realise that they have to join two que's one to buy a ticket and then another one to get into the stadium,is there a cash turnstile at wigan ?

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 10:39

Posted by: peter g (2840) 

Peacrap who cares

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 12:08

Posted by: baker boy (15574)

peawapp just read this morning featherstone chairman resigned due to cost and door to super league being shut.
i,ve said it b4 and i,ll say it again hq in leeds will ruin rl ,cos they dont have a clue.

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 14:16

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

baker boy I think the Fev chairman has changed his mind now but you are quite correct the drawbridge is now up the heartland clubs i.e Leigh,Halifax, Featherstone,Barrow etc are finished thanks to a third rate tennis player

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 15:29

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

peawapp there are pay turnstiles in all four stands at the DW, they must be able to trust Wiganers with the money

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 20:51

Posted by: baker boy (15574)

rio not at the footy though?

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 21:25

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

bb you can't even buy a ticket on the day for the football, although I don't think many would turn up on the last minute due to the strict policing needed at football

Replied: 20th May 2011 at 22:07

Posted by: peacrap the leyther (inactive)

DW not a patch on LSV tho is it

Replied: 21st May 2011 at 14:13

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Welcome to a true Leyther, a Wiganer with his brains kicked out

Replied: 21st May 2011 at 20:11

Posted by: owd fettler (49)

peacrap the leyther (inactive)
soon sussed you out eh bully boy

Replied: 22nd May 2011 at 11:18

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

thanks fettler I'll leave you a drink behind the bar in the Leigh east club today just see Sheila

Replied: 22nd May 2011 at 11:20

Posted by: i-spy (15034) 

it looks like Leigh need all the help they can get after admitting the chairman's departure has left a "considerable" hole in the club finances.
theyre appealing for extra support to get the crowd average up to 3,000.
hope the RL world helps -including Warriors fans.

Replied: 25th May 2011 at 22:26

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Latics fans need to get behind Leigh.

A true Rugby town.

Replied: 25th May 2011 at 22:30

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


Surely Latic's fans have got enough problems getting other people in Wigan to support your team.

Now down to a average of 16,500 from 21,000 in the first season.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 09:48
Last edited by ruddy duck: 26th May 2011 at 09:51:20

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Wigan vs Barrow 8k
Wigan vs Crusaders 12k

Wigan vs West Ham 22k

More people watched our last home match than watched WiganRL's previous two games.

Look at your own team first and stop coming on message board(s) to cause trouble.People are wise to you dafty.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 09:51

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

one descent crowd doesnt stop them from being laughed at when it comes to attendances

just remind us how many was one when they played one of biggest teams in the world

people dont expect a so called "minority sport" to have big crowds were as with a premiership team they do but we know thats not happened at latics and i doubt very much it will happen next season

trying to think what the crowd was at the wigan and saints game

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 09:58

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


Only because something was at stake and discount tickets were in abundance.

'Look at your own team first and stop coming on message boards(s) to cause trouble'

A bit rich coming frome someone telling Latic's fans to support Leigh.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 10:00

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

and causing trouble by calling people racists but cant prove it

then he wonders why hes so despised

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 10:12

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Weasel i thought you would have discovered yesterday how disliked you are on this board.

Obviously not sunk into your thick head yet.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 10:21
Last edited by jay_1: 26th May 2011 at 10:29:12

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

oh ive touched a nerve again and still no denial

its not me who gets load of people have a pop

take the hint thicko

your not liked on here

low life lying troll

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 11:06

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Hurting Weasel.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 11:08

Posted by: walshy76 (inactive)

ye course i am

have you answered awcantspeke question yet......or is that another one you going to all the others

i bet your kids are very proud of you

i bet you was like that at school stir it and then go into hiding

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 11:12

Posted by: fossil (6854)

An interesting point
Latics average 16810 for 19 premiership matches.

Warriors average 17240 for 5 super league matches so far.
With probably only Leeds likely to get near that ,I think the Latics will probably get the highest average attendance overall in Wigan.
When you combine the two, Wigan compares very favourably for the number of spectators supporting their local teams with any other town in the country,in fact I think it's the best

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 16:51

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


The home games against Huddersfield and Warrington are expected to attract gates of over 20,000.

Will be interesting to see who will have the best average attendance and as you say, something for a small town like Wigan to be proud of!

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 17:07

Posted by: fossil (6854)

ruddy duck,
I thought they played Warrington at home already

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 17:18

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)


I stand corrected

Memory is not what it used to be.

Still be interesting though.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 17:34

Posted by: ian c (442)

we all know how mr.wigan is selective in his use of figures so, just to be selective like him, it didn't take the warriors all season to break 20000 + and the warriors worse gate is still better than these two,
bolton --7,515

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 20:10

Posted by: fossil (6854)

ian c,
You are right,but those matches were not FREE to season ticket holders

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 20:22
Last edited by fossil : 26th May 2011 at 20:27:21

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

How about taking into consideration the very important factor of away support.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 20:36

Posted by: fossil (6854)

It's not rocket science, we are talking about average attendances,just what do you mean
Doesn't every crowd figure include away support

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 20:40

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

I am more interested in home support, after all that is what counts long-term.

The day you start relying and hoping for away support is the day to start worrying.

I have seen man city sell out their allocation at the jjb one year and boycott it another.

I have seen Bradford bulls almost fill the north stand one year and struggle to bring a thousand the next.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 22:16
Last edited by redtop19: 26th May 2011 at 22:17:45

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Fossil only one game per season is FREE to season ticket holders

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 22:48

Posted by: fossil (6854)

So just being curious as to what you mean,what do you make of the attendances of 24 and 21 thousand at the two well attended Warriors matches,and then the two home attendances of 12 and 13 thousand?
I don't have the problem of worrying about most things,but I do like to acknowledge facts and figures, and not let what I would like to see cloud my judgement.
In the latics programme it gives the number of away fans attending,so you have a good idea by using simple arithmetic how many home fans attend the match!
I don't think for one minute that the West Ham match is indicative of the latics support,or that the saints and wire matches show the total support current at the warriors,but it does show the potential at both clubs!
No excuses the figures tell the whole story,it could be close at the end.

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 22:52

Posted by: fossil (6854)

rio caroni,
Yes I know that,it was the Barrow cup tie ,and I was just replying with a comparison to the two cup games quoted ,both pay at the door at the football,and not free to ST's ,it just did not seem a fair like for like to me.

I just think it's very difficult today to afford to support sports teams,especially with young families!

Replied: 26th May 2011 at 23:04

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

"So just being curious as to what you mean,what do you make of the attendances of 24 and 21 thousand at the two well attended Warriors matches,and then the two home attendances of 12 and 13 thousand?"

pretty easy

must improve.

which to be fair they are doing,with things like the big one.

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 00:01

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

just to add that not long back them 12 and 13K crowds were 7,8 and 9k crowds.

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 00:04

Posted by: fossil (6854)

Well I would put it down to the teams success,and good luck to them!

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 07:47

Posted by: ruddy duck (inactive)

The fact remains that the Warriors crowds are on the up and the Latic's crowds are on the down.

Like any other club, it's all down to success or failour!

It's also time that some people faced the fact that being in the Premiership has helped the Latic' get bigger attendances then the Warriors, who in recent seasons have never won anything, especially when Whelan owned them.

Now the Warriors are doing far better under the ownership of Lenegan and now even making a profit and not a loss which was the case under Whelan.

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 09:42

Posted by: fossil (6854)

I don,t mind any point of view but I would like the proof!

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 09:52

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

Wigan rl made a £108,000 profit last year. Expecting a profit between £75,000 and £200,000 this year.

some of the larger crowds is down to success, but most of it can be put down to good marketing. that year(2006)they were facing relegation they averaged over 16k.

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 11:02

Posted by: fossil (6854)

Daily telegraph,10/5/2010.
"We hope to break even this year!
Dave (Whelan) had his own way of doing things but he was always a GREAT investor"
Who's words Ian Lenegan!

Can you for interest sake tell me where I can view the balance sheets?

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 11:31

Posted by: redtop19 (534)

Ian Lenegan announced it at the recent fans forum. (not really something he would lie about)

it is also pretty well known that in the last year of DW ownership the club showed a loss of £720k

whether there is anything available on the website, company house,(pay site) not too sure.

Replied: 27th May 2011 at 11:54
Last edited by redtop19: 27th May 2011 at 11:55:10

Posted by: broady (17281) 

I see Allan Rowley has resigned as CEO at Leigh. I think it is connected with Arthur Thomas. Allan worked for Arthur Thomas and was seconded to Leigh. Perhaps peawapp can clarify.

Replied: 31st May 2011 at 13:45

Posted by: peawapp (5071) 

Allan indeed worked for Arthur but unfortunately last friday Arthur had to announce that both his businesses and gone bust his concrete business and his painting business,and this meant that Allan and his other employees had to be made redundant.Allan was seconded to Leigh Centurions as C.E.O. and consequently has had to look for employment,this indeed is not good news for us. I would like to wish Allan all the very best in his search for a job and hope he is successful, this is by far Leigh's best season for ages and we were all hoping for some silverware this season,there are positive vibes coming from the club today as I have just paid a visit there all we can do is hope that the season doesn't now implode

Replied: 31st May 2011 at 15:19


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