Oldest Pub In Wigan

Started by: klnw44848 (14)

A while ago somebody posed the question as to " which was the oldest pub in wigan?". I was in the book shop in the galleries at the weekend while the wife was buying clothes again, and was reading a book about wigan. in there it states that the boars head is indeed the oldest pub in wigan, built in the thirteenth century. it also said that the boars head is in fact the second oldest pub in england. another feathr in wigan's flat cap eh.

Started: 22nd Aug 2007 at 18:47

Posted by: levi1962 (3577) 

ok then whats the oldest pub thaqts still open in wigan

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 18:53

Posted by: klnw44848 (14)

i dont know. i'm teetotal......honest

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 18:57

Posted by: levi1962 (3577) 

i dont either just thought it was a good question like urs

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 18:58

Posted by: klnw44848 (14)

would'nt it be nice if the council re-opened it and used it as a tourist attraction

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 19:04

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

The Boar's Head isn't in Wigan. It's in Standish. Did the book tell you what the oldest pub in Wigan was?

The Black Horse in Limbrick, south of Chorley, is the second oldest pub in Britain. According to form. Apparently. Probably, too.
You could say that's in Wigan, it's only up the road and the Wiganers wouldn't know the difference .


Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 19:22
Last edited by tonker: 17th Dec 2010 at 16:29:49

Posted by: klnw44848 (14)

no it did'nt. sorry

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 19:26

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

What about the Commercial Inn that used to be in Commercial Yard , that was or seemed to be a very old building and the Boars Head at the top of Chorley rd it was said that Dick Turpin used to viit there whilst on his travels

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 19:39

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

Dick Turpin, eh., Elizabeth? I heard they'd found an arrow, stuck in a tree in Haigh Hall woods, that might, apparently, have been shot by Robin Hood on one of his visits to Wigan. Probably according to one of the WAWTBR ........ (Wigan Archeological Wishful Thinkers and Believers in Rumour).

Replied: 22nd Aug 2007 at 19:53

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

No Tonker , sorry but it is in a history book somewhere I read it yonks ago apparently if memory serves me right from the book he used to ride up what is now called Chorley Road and dont forget all that area was fields and according to the history book he used to just call for a drink, not sure as it is many moons ago I went into the Pub I think there is a plaque there but cannot swear to it , perhaps one of you would call for a drink sometime and have a look

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 15:33

Posted by: gary1964 (3944) 

robin hood is just a myth...

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 15:44

Posted by: wigan1957 (1813)

Both the Boar's Head and The Wheatsheaf were listed in 1778 amongst property owned by Edward Townley Standish, Lord of the Manor from 1778-1807.

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 16:24

Posted by: gary1964 (3944) 


Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 16:33

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

Lord of the Manor of 'where'?

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 18:21

Posted by: wigan1957 (1813)

no idea tonker? didnt say owt else.

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 18:48

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

It should have said he was Lord of the Manor of Standish.

Replied: 23rd Aug 2007 at 19:16

Posted by: ackky (780)

Oldest Pub etc.
The oldest pub in England is a pub called the "Trip To Jerusalem" in Nottingham city centre.The second oldest pub still open and serving drinks is also in Nottingham called "The Salutation Arms" with possible the third oldest being the "Adam and Eve" in Norwich It is argued that the "Man and Sythe"in Bolton is possible the forth oldest, but I wouldn't argue on that.The two oldest are the two in Nottingham, with the Trip as it is called being open since the first crusade --- 11th century.They used to meet up at the Trip before going on the crusades.

Replied: 24th Aug 2007 at 20:46

Posted by: gibbo1962 (847) 

Is that pub in Nottingham opposite the castle, if so been in that one

Replied: 28th Aug 2007 at 17:44

Posted by: ackky (780)

Yes the Trip to Jeruslem pub is near the castle in Nottingham. You can't forget the place once you have been in due to it being built into a massive rock which the castle stands on. All the rooms are chiselled out of the rock.

Replied: 28th Aug 2007 at 19:45

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Been in there several times over the years first time mid 1970`s latest a couple years back always has a good pint also nice meals and anyone interested you can have a look at the menu online.

Replied: 28th Aug 2007 at 20:53

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

Paddy was retiring from an engineering works, where he had worked all his life brushing up swarf in the machine shop. He had only ever had one brush in all the fifty years he'd worked there. It was a good brush, it had only had 100 new heads and 25 new shafts in all the time he'd had it.
The 'Trip To Jerusalem' is, in fact, no more than 300 years old. Parts of the structure of the 'Man and Scythe', in Bolton, has been proven to date back to the 13th century.

Replied: 28th Aug 2007 at 21:15

Posted by: truckerdave (2337) 

Oh what the hell they all serve beer dont they, I dont care how old the pub is as long as the beer is cold

Replied: 2nd Sep 2007 at 02:05

Posted by: gary1964 (3944) 

agree with truckerdave

Replied: 2nd Sep 2007 at 08:22

Posted by: truckerdave (2337) 

cheer's gary

Replied: 2nd Sep 2007 at 18:05

Posted by: b8mex (299) 

Dick Turpin still visits the Boar's Head. Nowadays he doesn't wear a mask and works behind the bar!

Replied: 23rd Sep 2007 at 19:27
Last edited by b8mex: 12th Dec 2007 at 00:42:23

Posted by: chestymcphee (1007)

lots of pubs claim to be britain's oldest or 2nd oldest - they can't all be can they :-)

Replied: 24th Sep 2007 at 18:14

Posted by: rnicky74 (1295) 

I went past the Colliers yesterday just over the bridge at New springs. That says 1700 over the door, i made a point of looking 'cos i was sure that was older.

Replied: 29th Sep 2007 at 11:54

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I love old pubs. Lots of character!

Replied: 30th Sep 2007 at 16:32

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

The "White Horse Hotel" (now Hartleys?), is reputed to be the oldest pub in Wigan.
once a coaching house.

Replied: 2nd Oct 2007 at 12:12
Last edited by ©art©: 2nd Oct 2007 at 12:14:27

Posted by: drumer (32)

Some people will still remember the Powell children's library,I can't remember the name of the road it was in,but it was near to the horseshoe pub.

I'm sure there was some thatchers tools on show in the library which were found in the Thatched roof of the Boars' Head,when the thatching was replaced with a slate roof.
With all the money these brewries make today,I think it would be a good thing for the town if the owners put the thatching back again.
It wouldn't cost too much.
It would also help to stop anyone who gets a bright idea to pull it down and put some concrete up there!
Remember what the Philisttines did to the Comercial Yard.

When say it wouldn't cost the brewery too much, I know in Devon to save cost,today they thatch with Fibre Glass reeds!

Replied: 25th Oct 2007 at 19:46

Posted by: chestymcphee (1007)

not in wigan but my favourite old pub is the eagle and child in bispham

Replied: 27th Oct 2007 at 01:13

Posted by: tigerlily2110 (306)

What about the John Bull in Coopers Row? if not on of the oldest pubs, it must be one of the oldest buildings. Years ago they found whattle and daub in the walls.

Replied: 30th Oct 2007 at 13:58

Posted by: drumer (32)

The John Bull is one of the newest pubs in Wigan!
I left Wigan in the mid seventies and the John Bull wasn't there then.
I first came home for a visit in 1976 and went into the John Bull for the first time.
Also on that visit i saw the Wigan Buses had changed from red/white to cacky brown.
I knew then Wigan was on a downer.

Replied: 30th Oct 2007 at 20:18

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

The John Bull was a Slaughter House, before it was a pub

Replied: 1st Nov 2007 at 12:04

Posted by: bambam (2157)

your probably right art , i also think the john bull is the oldest pub in wigan,. bam bam.

Replied: 27th Jan 2008 at 02:41

Posted by: ianmcl (inactive)

The John Bull was an oyster bar! It must have opened about 1973 when someone called Glyn (?) had it, then Harold b from Blutos took over.

In the area it must be the Boar's Head, in the town centre, architecturally the White Horse does appear to be the oldest - though the Pear Tree on Frog Lane was also a coaching Inn with yard and cottages.

incidently it seems that the Brick in Hallgate is about to re-appear from the ashes!

Replied: 2nd Mar 2008 at 22:12

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

The Man and Sythe is my favourite pub. I am due a visit.. that lovely Orange Cider.

How old is the Birth in'th hand in Hindley? I recall having a look around the old cellar one and they have an old well in the middle of it.

Replied: 27th Oct 2015 at 14:32

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

mentioning old pubs what was the one in manchester city centre called and where did they move it to?

Replied: 27th Oct 2015 at 16:38

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Is this the one that was near the wheel?

Replied: 28th Oct 2015 at 12:17

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

jay ,I am not sure, I am talking pre arndale centre early 70s.

Replied: 28th Oct 2015 at 13:24

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

joseph, do you mean the Oyster Bar or the one next to it. I am sure one of them was moved.

Replied: 28th Oct 2015 at 18:58

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

Did it have a tree growing in the middle of it?

Replied: 28th Oct 2015 at 20:50

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

MarieM I am sure it wasnt called the oyster bar,tonker I dont think so.

Replied: 29th Oct 2015 at 05:37

Posted by: tonker (22707) 

That's Waxy O'Connors!

Replied: 29th Oct 2015 at 19:30

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

it was I think a black timbered white walled pub ,like the colliers arms in new springs just over the canal bridge going to aspull.thanks anyway for helping.

Replied: 30th Oct 2015 at 06:32

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

joseph, if you look on Google, Wikipedia, I think you will find it was the Old Wellington Inn in the Shambles Square.

Replied: 30th Oct 2015 at 12:07

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

]MarieM ,thanks for that have a good weekend ,

Replied: 30th Oct 2015 at 15:49

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

joseph, thank you. I think it is next to the Oyster Bar. The cheapest beer in Manchester.

But how the hell did they move it.

Replied: 30th Oct 2015 at 18:12
Last edited by MarieM: 30th Oct 2015 at 18:20:09

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

British talented workers ,

Replied: 31st Oct 2015 at 06:11

Posted by: builderboy (2291)


Copied and pasted from Wikidedia

'The buildings were subsequently dismantled and moved 300 metres northwards to their present location, close to Manchester Cathedral in 1999.[8] The Old Wellington Inn and Sinclair's were rebuilt at 90 degrees to each other and joined together by a stone extension to form two sides of the new Shambles Square'.

As I understand it every element of the structure was given a unique reference and then each building was de-constructed, piece by piece.

Once moved the pieces were put back in the opposite order to which they were removed i.e. the last pieces to be taken down became the first pieces to go back.

As graney says - talented workers

Replied: 3rd Nov 2015 at 11:56

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

builderboy you answered that perfectly.

Replied: 3rd Nov 2015 at 13:04

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

builderboy What an undertaking. I have been passed there today and it amazes me how they did it. Thank you.

Replied: 3rd Nov 2015 at 20:41

Posted by: elizabeth (5439) 

om re reading this old piece a place came to mind wasn,t ther a pub up the Wiend or is memory playing tricks

Replied: 3rd May 2016 at 15:11

Posted by: copperhead (1415) 


The Old Dog

Replied: 29th Sep 2016 at 19:12


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