Ale and Hearty

Started by: i-spy (14928)

Who's your all time favourite Wigan pub landlord and landlady? They dont seem to last long these days but once upon a time, a landlord was for life and it was usually his name customers used. Like Sams - Sam and Marj Holding at White horse and later swan and railway. Not forgetting Billy's - Billy and Joan Boston at the Griffin. There were so many characters.
PS can anybody tell me the name of the landlord at the star in roby mill who played the banjo?

Started: 23rd Jan 2009 at 22:29

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

An old mate o' mine, Frank Fielding, was (at one time)the longest serving landlord in Wigan & in one pub. 29 years in the "Old Pear Tree", Frog Lane. Dunno' if that record's gone yet.
I went in the OPT when Jack & Pat Ashcroft had it, before he took over, & eventually went to his funeral last year..

Replied: 24th Jan 2009 at 15:46

Posted by: tony j (768) 

eddie duggan, landlord of brick in woodhouse lane, been there for approx 32 years.

Replied: 24th Jan 2009 at 17:17

Posted by: jacqueline leyland (3634) 

Sylvia and John who used to have The Queens Head in Aspull,Terry and June Dunn the Silverwell,Ernie Roughley and wife the Silverwell.

Replied: 24th Jan 2009 at 17:59

Posted by: ianmcl (inactive)

Frank F was a true star - Zeta Brown was my fave but let's not to forget dear old Harold Burgess at the John Bull RIP to all

Replied: 25th Jan 2009 at 21:38

Posted by: bennielechat (5762)

MRS.Brown was a legend.
I'll never forget when the urinals got blocked and there was pee about half an inch deep in the Gents. She got a skint owd chap to shove his hand down the drain to unblock it on the promise of half a dozen pints of mild.

Other landlords Colin Cooke at the Market, a true gentleman.
Eric and Phyllis at the Bowling Green on Wigan Lane, Alan and Dot at the Hen 'ole. Pagefield we mustn't forget John and Ann Meehan.

Replied: 25th Jan 2009 at 22:07
Last edited by bennielechat: 25th Jan 2009 at 22:08:34

Posted by: xrh59 (inactive)

John Mitchell Silverwell hotel.

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 11:41

Posted by: brenn65 (473)

angela who took over from her dad (billy boston) at the griffin

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 11:45

Posted by: ianmcl (inactive)

Was just going to mention Colin, Bennie, Exhibition ale . . . ah!

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 17:59

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Keith and Norma Holden who had the Crooked Wheel along with several other pubs, people like these are few and far between. Both sadly missed.

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 21:39

Posted by: jacqueline leyland (3634) 

ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 23:33

Posted by: shasha (3594)

Yes not to forget Jackie Leyland. The best landlady the Flamingo ever had.

Replied: 26th Jan 2009 at 23:52

Posted by: jacqueline leyland (3634) 

I thank you Shasha

Replied: 27th Jan 2009 at 00:00

Posted by: nicola (3236) 

My grandad Tommy Danson, (well he was retired by then) by all accounts not one to upset!!! Held the Pagey before Meehan, and the Black Diamond, and afew others....

Replied: 27th Jan 2009 at 12:54

Posted by: owd robiner (282)

john and Maggie of the queens head at the saddle junction. gone but not forgotten r.i.p.

Replied: 27th Jan 2009 at 17:26
Last edited by owd robiner: 2nd Feb 2009 at 16:29:24

Posted by: david.b (13)

What about Eric at the Dog ith Thatch in Standishgate!

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 17:16

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

moorgate aspull ,kevin and lovely wife Rose.

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 19:34
Last edited by graneyjoseph: 6th Feb 2016 at 09:53:51

Posted by: cordyline (5350) 

Answer to first post
The banjo playing Landlord at Star Roby Mill was Tom Smith
His son Dave played piano

Dave worked as mechanic ay a garage near Douglas Bridge in Newtown; later he worked at the garage in Little Lane, there was a petrol station

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 22:41

Posted by: scoop (3285) 

Anyone that served good beer.

Replied: 8th Feb 2016 at 16:04

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Woody and Edie in the Hare and Hounds in Pemberton. Woody wouldn't let any women in the Vault and Edie used to dry her washing on the radiators.

I'm going back a bit but those were the days.

Replied: 8th Feb 2016 at 18:42
Last edited by MarieM: 8th Feb 2016 at 19:25:53

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1637)

MarieM that was my auntie and uncle 2 nice people

Replied: 8th Feb 2016 at 20:36

Posted by: MarieM (5563)


Woody and Edie, the salt of the earth.

Replied: 8th Feb 2016 at 20:42

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

THE "NEW STAR INN" corner of miry lane and wallgate mine host's JOHN AND KATH superb very happy day's and night's oh bring um back.

Replied: 13th Feb 2016 at 00:28

Posted by: pippa (118)

Bill and Kath Mather have been in the Colliers Arms, New Springs over 30 years, previously had the Riverside and Scholes Con Club

Replied: 15th Feb 2016 at 12:44

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

golden bear. When my grandma and her mates used to go in the Star about eighty years ago, the Landlord used to put them a crate of bottles and a bottle opener under the seat so they didn't have to keep going to the bar.

Replied: 15th Feb 2016 at 19:51

Posted by: i-spy (14928)

I'm not surprised they had bottles.Some of the draught ale back then was horrible

Replied: 18th Feb 2016 at 20:49

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

Hello MARIEM, That does not surprise me in the slightest at the time I referred to it was 1965 to 1970s, the couple were a true down to earth couple it was a privalige going in there to have a few (gallons) or so haha, with me being so young what also struck me was the "aroma" the smell of the beer,from the old pumps,plus the strength of the ale back then I wish I could visit those days again they were heaven. nice to hear of you MARIEM.

Replied: 21st Feb 2016 at 15:18

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Golden Bear Do you remember the pub they called the Long Pull in Wallgate. I don't know what the proper name was but my parents used to go in there. It was further up than the Star.

Replied: 21st Feb 2016 at 20:12

Posted by: baker boy (15501)

j Leyland where you the landlady in the late seventies /eighties when they had a football team.

Replied: 1st Mar 2016 at 21:52

Posted by: baker boy (15501)

frank makin and his missus Marjorie where my favourite mine hosts, always a good tale,good beer and good company.the eckersleys arms aka the garden of eden.

Replied: 1st Mar 2016 at 21:55

Posted by: deano (802)

ron and jean baxendale foristers arms shevy moor

Replied: 2nd Mar 2016 at 08:26

Posted by: i-spy (14928)

Bumped into Tommy Dickens who had the Dog and Partridge at Standish. He's looking very well

Replied: 19th Apr 2016 at 16:39

Posted by: gideonfel (318)

Tommy Dickens also had the Royal Oak in Wigan. He was a great landlord who ran a thriving pub with a great atmosphere. Had some fabulous times in there - and some unforgettable Wembley trips!

Replied: 20th Apr 2016 at 15:11

Posted by: i-spy (14928)

You hit a nerve mentioning Wembley trips gideonfel.I still wonder how I survived them.

Replied: 21st Apr 2016 at 17:14

Posted by: gideonfel (318)

The fact that we had to go into the Oak to pay our Wembley 'Buster' every Sunday afternoon was the perfect excuse for a pint! Great set of lads in there back then when we played for Whelley RL!

Replied: 21st Apr 2016 at 17:22

Posted by: aussie94 (2354)

The Clarence in the 1960s I recall the Landlord's name was Ken and his wife Gladys?

Replied: 16th Aug 2016 at 09:34

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 


I Remember Jack&Pat Ashcroft of the PEAR TREE PUB way way back every Saturday at 12.00 we would pull up alongside that chippy across from pub, i was sent for the meat order and later we had our chippy/peas/fish lunch one of the reasons we served them was that the man training me was a JOHN BENNET FROM FIELD ST BYTHE SIDE OF WALMSLEY'S OFF FROG LANE when i asked why don't they pop down to the shop he said well i often treat them , for he used to throw darts in their league and he often got a few free pints as well , but there were a nice couple thanks for the memories.

Replied: 9th Sep 2016 at 15:25
Last edited by GOLDEN BEAR: 17th Nov 2016 at 16:39:38

Posted by: aussie94 (2354)

one of my earliest drinking memories was of the Commercial run by the Latham family a great Pub , great Beer , best pasties in the world, great staff. Destroyed by corrupt councillors , inept town planners and greedy developers. . A pox on all their houses. They destroyed a great part of the town

Replied: 15th Nov 2016 at 10:56

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

Hi there MarieM,
Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you with respect of local pub's in Wigan especially along Wallgate Wigan. MarieM you mentioned a pub your mum and dad went in regulary up from "THE NEW STARR INN" Well you have really set me a problem there is not a sniff of one with the "nickname" THE LONG PULL" it's got to the stage it's driving me up the pole, so have you had any success? if so can you let us know bye for know cheerio!

Replied: 17th Nov 2016 at 17:00

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Golden Bear, I don't know why it was called the Long Pull but I will try and find out. The trouble is most of them have now passed away.

Replied: 17th Nov 2016 at 18:33

Posted by: momac (11163) 

Marie..have just been on Album and found out that The Long Pull was The Queens Hotel Wallgate..but I don't know where The Queens Hotel was.

Replied: 17th Nov 2016 at 20:06

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Maureen, it was opposite where Poundstretcher and Go Outdoors is now.

Replied: 18th Nov 2016 at 09:29

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Golden Bear, Rob Gaskell has left a message for you on Guestbook re the Long Pull.

Replied: 18th Nov 2016 at 09:53

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

golden bear. My grandma and her mates, probably in the 50s, in their clogs and shawls used to go to the Star Inn in Wallgate. The landlord used to put a crate of beer under their seat with a bottle opener so they didn't have to get up to go to the bar. You couldn't make it up

Replied: 18th Nov 2016 at 18:16

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

Hello ROB GASKELL, Just come on site been offish lately with health prob's ,anyway thank you for taking time out to clarify the" long pull" there were some really obscure meanings back then wasn't there? Nice to hear from you are you from PEMBERTON if so i was a "HALF-WAY-HOUSER" 460 ORMSKIRK RD, TODAY IF YOU WERE TO STAND ON CORNER OF VEG SHOP THEN IMAGINE WHERE THE VIDEO SHOP IS THERE USED TO BE ABOUT 5/6 "DOWN-STEP HOUSE'S THAT'S WHERE IM FROM , OH SORRY FRO BORING YOU BUT I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR AGES TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS A OLD PHOTO OF WHERE I WAS BORN (1947) NO LUCK ,AGAIN THANKS ROB.

Replied: 21st Nov 2016 at 11:03

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

HI Marie M ,thanks for your message i got ROB'S answer he say's it was the QUEENS pub now if my memory is right was the QUEENS on righ side going up WALLGATE on corner of Queen st just before bridge ? don't if that help's ?
Catch you later marie m.

Replied: 21st Nov 2016 at 11:07

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Golden Bear It was on the left hand side going up Wallgate opposite Poundstretcher and Go Outdoors

Replied: 21st Nov 2016 at 11:47

Posted by: marken (371)

Golden Bear, that was the Wheatsheaf.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2016 at 11:31

Posted by: tom cros (107) 

You can see the Queens Hotel on the 1890 map on the website. You might need to be a bit patient accessing the site.

It's on the left side of Wallgate as you go into town just before Alker St on the opposite side. The next street on the left is Clayton St with the Grapes Hotel. The address of Queens Hotel Yard was given as 158 Wallgate in 1933.

Replied: 22nd Nov 2016 at 16:27

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 

Thanks :Marken/tom cros ,
I'm always ready to admit i'm wrong but will take you up tom and have a visit of that site,merely because maps are one of my hobbies cheers all.

Replied: 25th Nov 2016 at 14:22

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

golden Bear It is all car show rooms now on the left side of Wallgate where the Long Pull used to be.

Replied: 30th Nov 2016 at 18:28

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3217) 


It sure looks like that not very nice to look at ,would have prepared it stayed like it was in those day's we are talking about , and they try to tell us it's cchange for the better!! MY A*SE.

Replied: 1st Dec 2016 at 15:42


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