LOCAL HISTORY OF INCE - HELP NEEDED !

I'm doing my family history, and am trying to pin down the location of an address given in the 1851 census as 160 New Hall Street, Ince. I am sure it is Higher Ince. Does anyone know where it was, in relation to the main drag, Manchester Road ? I have a good knowledge of the area, so a road number or landmark will probably do. Any help wpould be appreciated.

this is in stuff and the Ince Directory

MOAT HOUSE STREET - (Higher Ince.)
[301 MANCHESTER ROAD]
HASLAM R.J., waste manufacturer, Moat House Street Mill
Davis Arthur Thos., colliery manager, Moat House
NEW HALL COTTAGES:-
2 Dickinson William, engine minder
3 Gray James, colliery fireman
4 Johnson Thomas, collier

Census entry

SHERRINGTON, Richard Head Married M 48 1803 Coal Miner Upholland Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Mary Wife Married F 43 1808 Upholland
Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828 Factory Silk Pemberton Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Margret Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Factory Silk Pemberton Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, John Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Coal Miner Pemberton Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Factory Girl Blackrod Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1837 Factory Girl Blackrod
SHERRINGTON, Mary Daughter F 12 1839 At House Pemberton
Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Ellen Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Wigan
Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Martha Daughter F 7 1844 Aspull
Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Richard Son M 4 1847 Ince
Lancashire
SHERRINGTON, Sarah Daughter F 1 1850 Ince
Lancashire


Wigan Sub District:
Hindley

Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Catherines

New Hall pit was off Ince Green Lane.

My Grandad was born in" Boardmans End Row, New Hall Fields "in the 1800s. Can't find on map but I believe New Hall Fields area was around where Petticoat Lane/ Makerfield Way area is now. The name of the street may have been changed at some point- for example Broom Sreet over Rose Bridge was origionally Bolton Street.Good Luck!

Is this any use?

This is from the 1840s showing New Hall pit and Mill but no sign of New Hall st.

Dave, on the map you put on, behind where it says New Hall, we always knew that as the brickhill, and beyond that was the ressy, But I have never heard of of new hall street, and i was raised on Island row,it makes you wonder what the Island was that is referred to.

I'm not really familiar with the area aitch, the map I put on was a small part of a larger map I have, let me know if you want a copy.

Please Dave, I would be most grateful for a copy of that site

Here it is

Please note, the link won't last much longer than about half a hour. It's in *.png format.

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Ince comes from the Britsh word Enys, meaning hill or island, could that be it?

Thanks for the link Dave, but it wont let me open it, it just says link appears to be broken, still its the thought that counts.

A BIG THANK YOU .... to all who replied, partic dave and winder for the maps. I'm tracking my Gt Gt Grandfather, and I believe he moved from Spring Gardens, sometime before 1851, to lodge at 3 Manchester Road as a miner. It would appear he could well have moved to work in the New Hall pit, a place I didn't know existed ! And cheers gaffer for the census. It's funny you picked that household, as my Gt Gt Gf married Elizabeth Sherrington, at St. Catherine's, in 1858. If aitch is still looking, just for info, where is Island Row ? My Gt Gt Gf ended up there, at no. 23, and passed away in 1904 ( still to comfirm this ). Many, many thanks for your help, everybody.

hilly

1841 census of Spring Gardens lists Margaret Hill aged 30 with children John,James, Elizabeth & Samuel.Four members of Hitchen family were lodgers. No house number shown.

1841 census no records of Manchester Road. 1851 census shows four houses only.
James Hill is shown as a lodger with the Higham family at no.3. Listed as age 14 and a coal miner.


Island Row is listed as,

Civil parish Ince. Sub district Hindley. Ecclesiastical parish Christ Church

1901 Census 23 Island Row.

James & Elizabeth Hill, daughters Mary & Elizabeth, sons Henry & James, grandson Samuel Shuttleworth. James Hill aged 64.

In "places", under the "Ince"section, someone has posted a comment saying that Belle Green Lane used to be New Hall Street.

hilly, this is a picture of Island Row, it was all the houses you can see on both sides of Petticoat lane, now Makerfield way leading to Morrisons,I lived in the middle one of the 3 on the right.(no 29)

hello irene ,its funny u should say that bell green lane had a different name , but my mother who died in march o9 age 90 always told us her children that it used to be beutifull green lane ,how true this is i dont know?