Ashton
Don't suppose anyone knows where middle ginnel ashton was please? Thanks Em
Started: 3rd Oct 2006 at 21:43
a ginnel is an entry.......could it not be "squeeze belly entry" your referring to?A narrow entry between the shops.
Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 19:34
thanks empress, not sure the entry just says middle ginnel - talk about vague its on birth certs 1870's -80's Em
Replied: 17th Oct 2006 at 21:43
Emma Ashton has lots of ginnel,s
one next to gullick,s engineering and there used to be a couple of houses up there and a couple more all off Gerard St
the lads/girls used to sneak up the ginnel for a kiss[:x] n cuddle
JJ
Replied: 17th Oct 2006 at 22:31
Last edited by john joseph: 17th Oct 2006 at 22:33:49
'Middle Ginnel' is marked on Old Maps. It shows it as being off Heath Lane (now Heath Road) towards Gerrard Street and directly opposite the Golden Lion public house, round about the site of Kwik Save (Somerfield). If you want to look on Old Maps, you will have to search for Haydock, then go north and east until you come to Ashton, as Ashton in Makerfield isn't listed.
Replied: 17th Oct 2006 at 23:59
Last edited by tonker: 18th Oct 2006 at 00:10:25
Tonker
That ginnel has the steps leading to the open market and could be the one, or look at almost direct across the road
and a ginnel running through to heath road about a metre wide is the one I thought it was
JJ
Replied: 18th Oct 2006 at 13:30
Yes John, the one called, and still called, 'A Court', is 'Squeeze Belly Entry'. That's it's local nickname anyway. I can imagine there being three entries, or ginnels, linking Gerard Street with Heath Lane (Road), Squeeze Belly Entry at the top, another at the bottom and one in the middle called 'Middle Ginnel'? It certainly seems to be a 'formal title' anyway, seeing as it's on an OS map. Weren't we a old fashioned lot, though, in the 'olden days'. Fancy calling a road a 'ginnel' or an 'entry'! We're so advanced these days, what, calling our roads things like 'Aspenwood', 'The Parchments', 'Woodedge' and 'Oakenfields'. Ooooops, sorry, I nearly pi***d myself laughing there!
Replied: 18th Oct 2006 at 19:02
thanks all for your info, will def take another look at old maps I came in last time from bryn area and get lost, so the haydock route sounds better. Em
Replied: 24th Oct 2006 at 21:03
re john josephs, comments on Ashton, just where was the Gullicks enginering site in Ashton with a couple of houses & all of Gerrard street?''
Replied: 25th Oct 2006 at 10:05
I think he means Cromptons Ferdy, I remember seeing an old photo of Gerard St before Cromptons was built & there were 2 old cottages by the side of the Red Lion (Old Mary's)
Replied: 26th Oct 2006 at 18:38
Cheers Tonker, found it, ended up going via Bryn though as struggled with the Haydock route, but thanks as had been unable to locate it. Em
Replied: 26th Oct 2006 at 20:58
Ferdy
yep sorry I did mean cromptons
jj
Replied: 26th Oct 2006 at 22:12