Whupsy and Islamophobia

Whupsy

Now yoo know I never disagree with you, but I think that to call the present Conservative Party Islamophobic, is bit silly, and yoo don't want to be a silly billy, doo yoo whupsy

In this country the top three Government positions are

1. Prime Minister (boss)

2. Chancellor of the Exchequer

3. The Home Secretary

Now we know who is Prime Minister, yon Boris is, but the Number two in the country is a Sajid Javid the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and he is a Muslim



Sajid Javid

The number three in the country is Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, and she is not a Muslim, but she is a Hindoo



Priti Patel

So I would say that the present Conservative Party and Conservative Government are not Islamophobic

IS that the same Priti Patel who had covert meetings with the hard right Isreali government who seek to influence U K policy in the Middle east and was sacked in disgrace .?

Surely not .

she is obviously not anti semetic then.

We are talking rife islamophobia in the tory party which they try to avoid at all costs .

Do try to keeo up .

do try and keep up with terrorist support and racism within the puritanical party.touche ?

also grim when javid was put forward for PM did,nt he highlight islamaphobia in the tory party & said he would get rid of it in his party . get your facts right 1stroke.

TTS, why don't you meet up with whups instead of keep trying to wind him up, there's enough of this brexit crap on here without you posting more.

and as for backing terrorism . if johnson comes out of ther EU & the n/ireland issue isnt resolved then there will surely be a rise in terrorism in ireland . isnt this forming terrorism ? .

Spot on whups.

They brush it under the carpet with much help from the tory dominated press who demonise J C at every opportunity.

My pal from M C is up in Newcastle for the game later today.
He was at the rally last evening in the city with J C as main speaker .
A full house gave him a rousing reception ,cheering him to the rafters .Not bad on a cool tyneside evening.

Now Now Whupsy, it is YOO who needs to get the facts right, during one of the Conservative leadership debates, between all four of the candidates, the moderator mentioned Islamophobia in the Conservative Party, and Sajid suggested having an enquiry about it, and the other candidates agreed to it

Grimshaw

Yes Priti was a naughty girl, she was supposed to be on holiday, but she was having chin wags with the Israelis, and she was out on her bottom when Theresa May found out about it, she was sacked on the spot

Basil,,, what are you on about, this topic is about Islamophobia, it has nothing to do with Brexit ...

So why was she sacked .?

Are you seriously saying that May didnt know .

I would say the opposite and it leaked out due to a whistle blower which to save face may sacked her.

I don't know if Theresa May knew or not, and I am not speaking on this topic has a supporter of Priti Patel, I am just pointing out that the Government does not appear to be Islamophobic

Yoo and Whupsy however, appear to be Tory Phobic

Stop trying to wind him up, TTS

Basil

I haven't got a winding up bone in my body

Ye gods! Our TTS has caught Borisism.

When did the terrorism stop in NI? You don't really believe the IRA and the other paramilitary groups just went away do you. It never went away and Brexit has nothing to do with it, the rioting still goes on now mostly at weekends and the new IRA are still planting bombs in Derry only a couple of weeks ago.

I agree

The dissident groups as they are now known, will try to take advantage of Brexit, in order to further their cause by causing trouble.

On about the Good Friday agreement, you should read what Norman Tebbit thinks about it.

Good Friday Farce! It allowed 428 terrorists, including 143 serving life sentences to be freed in 22 months ago. They should have all been shot!

walshy you really need to stop stirring trouble up,before admin ban you again.
then you will be forced back on here with another new name,perhaps billy badger or sammy squirrel.

A couple of uncle toms for the benefit of the dim witted

you put this on did,nt you about islamaphobia. you put a pic of sajid javid . he said there was racists in his own party some of which was on the stage with him . but typical tory rhetoric by saying they would do something about it & what have they done , NOTHING .

Nayyyyy thivv not dun any thin a bow tit

Only make him Chancellor of the Exchequer

“Islamophobia” is an artificial word construct designed by islamists to criminalize and repress the voices of those that abjure a dangerous, ruthless and demonstrably absurd belief system that its proponents are determined to force upon those who are repelled by it.

Oh I see .......

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Well its Whupsy who keeps using that word

So Whupsy must be a terrorist

Don't put words in my mouth.

you back terrorism up 1stroke if no deal goes thru coz you can say ta ta to the good friday agreement.as for sajid javid his type of democracy doesnt come into it , just as the people of little plumpton & fylde council.

whups why dont you bugger off to little plumpton! jesus you dont half keep banging on..idiot

why dont you laughing boy & give us all a break.

"you back terrorism up 1stroke if no deal goes thru coz you can say ta ta to the good friday agreement"

Try to keep up Whups the Good Friday farce was waved goodbye to a couple of weeks after the terrorist who had been freed went back on the front line. They never went away and continue to recruit and train to this day.

the IRA have killed more people on these shores than any other terrorist .by having brexit it will give even more rise to it .so your backing terrorism arnt you .

Terry W,
I lived and worked in Belfast for a couple of years in the 90’s and saw first hand, on an almost daily basis, the hatred that existed between the two factions at that time. The Good Friday agreement did alleviate the situation I believe. I toured Ireland, North and South, a couple of years ago and found the situation had eased amongst the younger element but old habits die hard and the troubles were still simmering amongst the older generation. Most families were touched by the problems and no way will they start “ having a pint” with each other. It will take generations to forget. I also lived and worked in Dublin for two years in 2001 and 2002 and never heard calls for a united Ireland in that time. They couldn't afford To take the North under their jurisdiction.

Broady. I do agree that some of the tensions on the streets were alleviated but the suggestion that all was well after the Good Friday Farce is nonsense, the IRA and the rest did not lay down their arms and vanish they are as united in their aim today as they were since the troubles began.

Whups. You don't half spout some crap, please explain to all how the terrorists will expand their operations in the UK after Brexit?

Whups. If what you say is the case about the IRA then your Labour Leader will be very happy for the reasons mentioned on here before, he's their main sympathiser and will no doubt be laying another wreath for his dead terrorist comrades.

There's no getting away from these facts no matter how much you plead on his behalf.

He's/she bullying poor whups now😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

Why are you commenting on a thread you don't want anything to do with or have an interest in?

Oh I remember now it's because you are the worst contributor and stirrer on Wigan World with nothing to say except childish comments like that.

Doesn't surprise me, though 😠

For those debating on this thread just ignore the constant interruptions by the imbecile who has nothing to ad or say.

Stop bullying folk, people are entitled to have an opinion, you don't own the site.

Basil.

you just cant kill everybody like you want to do . at some stage you have to sit down & talk . isnt that what the government have been doing ? .maybe i talk crap to people like you but i dont bring little girls into my arguments unlike you .

OK. But please explain to all how the terrorists will expand their operations in the UK after Brexit?

because the good friday agreement will go & terrorism will expand .

Will it be the NI terrorist/IRA who will continue their operations on the mainland then or will it be the threats of Islam again or indeed anyone who has a grudge against the UK, So this will be because of Brexit?

Can i ask a straight forward question in the hope i get a similar answer ?.

Have you at any time served in uniform in N I OR in any other location in the U K or indeed abroad .?

brexit is the root of all EVIL.brexit brought the black death to britain in the middle ages,if we go no deal ,britain will explode.bloody pathetic people, how the hell did our country survive before 1974.

baker boy

funny isnt it that deaths & assaults on foreigners have spiraled since the brexit vote .

whups .

So what? Paddy will be supporting his ancestors. Grim please correct his spelling.

wot,s it to you traitor.

Traitor. Presume you are 100% English? I think not.

Whupsy

The terrorist attacks are nowt doo with Brexit, they Muslim terrorist, ISIS cells, who hate us, because they are getting their arses kicked in Syria, by the RAF who are operating out of our Cyprus air bases ....

deaths and assaults on foreigners have exploded since brexit. one, we have not left yet,two,do you actually know the figures or do you just dream them up.

listen wally you did a runner then pledged your alliegence to a canadian flag that,s a traitor to me. so 1stroke your saying that there,s been no attacks on foreigners by the british public are you ? . i think your deluded . baker boy get your facts straight we had a brexit vote did,nt we & since that vote there has been a massive upsurge in verbal & physical attacks on people from "other countries "& the only 1 dreaming is you .

Who is this guy called Wally you refer to? Before my time but that flag you keep harping about was very prominent in Europe in the 40’s. Can you say the same about the Irish flag?

Apologies to those from Ireland that did fight for the allied cause.

no i cant as i,m not irish neither was my father & grandfather & his father before him. i dont know why you persist with this irish lark ? .as for wally it just sums you up & now we know where wally is , he,s alive & well & living in calgary in canada.and you could,nt meaningfully appologise if it meant your life.

"deaths and assaults on foreigners have exploded since brexit." What an idiot!

Not since Brexit though, what about the skinheads of the 60's and 70' who's sport was P**i bashing and the burning of black peoples homes? He'll probably say they were Tory Skins. I would also suggest that it is foreigners who are doing assaults on other foreigners and British people. I seem to remember some Polish goon kicking a lad in the head when he bent down to fasten his shoe lace on King Street was Brexit to blame for that?

Then I shall not call you Irish again. You may however hurl insults at me if it suits because as they say “ sticks and stones etc.” I look forward to reading more of your posts without back up or justification. Have a nice day.

the trouble with you is that your so racist you wont accept any findings that have been put on virtually every media outlet. your kind of idiot is whats wrong in this country & i seem to remember the murder of that goth girl who was killed by here own kind . no foreigners there was there.and as a united supporter who portrays a pic of george best i,d like to know your opinion of the "foriegners" that played for them over the last 60yrs the likes of paul ince,paul parker ,eric cantona,carlo sartori , andy cole , dwight yorke ETC.

Insults and profanity are all they have now. They have lost the argument by going down that path.

you only think there insults because you,ve lost the argument.you cannot back yourself up while being a so-called united fan & call foreigners while shouting for them on the terraces.

Do you realise how stupid that sounds?

I'm not a United fan and I don't go to any football matches.

Good attempt but you have only shown yourself up again by spouting incorrect rubbish.

You are again spot on whups .

They are racist to the core and hate anyone who challenges that .
And to portray a pic of George given that he only watched him a few times is to disrespect the shirt .And George .

I must be missing something because I see no racism. Very easy to shout racism if their views differ from yours. I was in Tenerife for a month last September and again this March and visited lots of the bars frequented by footballc and rugby fans and lots openly stated, rightly or wrongly, that they voted to leave because of the fear of being swamped by immigrants.

We're already swamped, Bill.

Where I'm working at the moment your lucky to hear English being spoken.

The country would just not function if immigration ended .
Its not a case of differing views.

You resort to the old journo trick when you say you visited lots of bars and spoke to lots of people .

I would hazard a guess that lots of folks who post on here against immigration have at sometime been in hospital for instance and been cared for by an immigrant nurse etc.
Immigrant nurses cared wonderfully well when my g daughter had her spine correction op recently.
Racism in any form is abhorrent and i would hope you would at least agree with that .

the country would not function if immigration ended says grim.
why is it because we have a skills gap,then the government should start now to retrain our own people right now ,last time i looked there was still unemployment, off the dole and into training now.no excuses.

Grimshaw,
No one denies that at all. Canada would not survive without immigrants but they have to be of a certain calibre. I don’t think many surgeons pay money to enter the UK by crossing the channel on a dinghy. Neither do they immediately latch on to benefits. Read what David Blunkett says about life in Sheffield. I like to think I am not racist but I do feel some rancour when I read of incidents in Rochdale, Rotherham etc. I feel more than rancour when I see them burning the UK flag as troops are on the streets. That is an insult to the Queen, those soldiers, the population at large and those that have perished defending that flag.

Where has this "racism" rubbish come from? Oh I know when losing in any debate these days it is almost certain someone will throw up the racist card.

I'm so happy that my picture of George is causing you so all
much anxiety though. Do carry on with your hand wringing.

left wingers always bring up right thinking people as being racist and then comfortably forget their parties worse than anybody.hypocrites to a member.

well i remember you saying that you went to old trafford "back in the day" so if your now saying your not a united fan that makes you a lair doesnt it ? . that makes you look stupid in fron of everyone . so take george,s picture off your name .

right whingers never bring up big businesses & the rich paying no tax & allow billions of money casually go out of the country which would pay for everything we need.

I don't follow Utd now and have not done for many years, this I told you some time ago or have you just dismissed that part to score a point? I'll do nothing you say so George will stay for as long as I wish. Stop making yourself look a bigger buffoon than you are.

On the other hand keep it up we all like a good laugh at you.

"Take Georges picture off your name"

It really isn't worth replying to such childish comments, Lectriclegs. Far easier to let them show themselves up.

Whups

It will be sad day for all of us if the rich stop paying taxes.
The top 1% of income tax payers pay 27% of the total. This amounts to £50 billion a year in income tax.In addition they and their employers add another £35 billion in NI contributions.
There are around 54 million adults in the UK, 31 million pay income tax.

the rich arnt paying taxes because they send their money & assets to a shell company set-up by a dodgy accountant which they are sole company directors & get a loan from their own company & rent their own assets back so the taxman cant claim anything off them then they claim tax relief on the loan of their own money which comes from the british taxpayer . this is exactly what netflix is doing from their office in amsterdam , why do something useful gaffer & look into their finances because this is what all the rich are doing along with big businesses.how many times must we see this going on before something is done about it.

gaffer
whats the point of a debate with people who have their fingers in their ears.
they are just not open to good sense based on solid facts.
economically labour is a disaster area.tax the rich tax the rich all will be well,utter nonsense.

whats the point in debating with people who wont open their eyes to what,s going on & let billions leave this country without paying their fair dues .baker boy if your happy for these companies & rich people to get away with it then you deserve all you get , but then again you are paying for them to do it ? .

Whups .

More words of wisdom from the Midnight Cowboy.

I would hate to be associated with a party that allows antisemitic views, but what can you expect with such a leader as Corbyn.

FOR THE MANY BUT NOT THE JEW.

It would seem these lefties are content to pay into the party knowing full well of the antisemitism. Disgusting!

I see TTT getting nasty again.

good solid facts eh . he failed to mention the 7.6 rise they got .and i would,nt be part of a party that was rife with islamaphobia & kicks it,s own people at every chance it gets , disgusting . i see that yet another large business has ripped us off yet again , facebook with 1.6 billion in profits has paid just 28 million in tax . when are you going to open your eyes to whats going on .how come mr statistic has,nt looked into netflix sending their profits to it,s shell company netflix international which it opened around 18months ago & based in amsterdam & continues to rob us by claiming tax relief on the loan from it,s own shell company that it gets back ?.send profits out of the country then claim the same money back as a loan then claim tax relief on it , great.

No but you don't mind the Nazi Party going under the name of Labour do you.

FOR THE MANY NOT THE JEW.

nazi party your party the tory is as near to that as it,s possible to get . wise up .

Whups

H M Revenue and Customs publish annually the Tax Gap figures.
The Tax Gap is the difference between the tax collected and what HMRC assess as the tax that should be collected.
HMRC is the only country in the world to regularly publish a detailed Tax Gap report.
The latest report indicates a Tax Gap of £35 billion.
Tax evasion accounts for £5.3 billion and tax avoidance £1.8 billion.The largest single amount of the tax gap is from small companies which accounts for £14 billion.
Insofar as large companies organise their tax affairs it should be obvious that it is done on a global scale and arranged to minimise the total tax take.
The most traded global product after oil is coffee. A multinational coffee company operating in the UK may well base their EU Intellectual Property rights to their coffee bean processing in another country in the EU. When the UK arm buys it's coffee from that country the transfer price will include a charge for intellectual property rights which reduces the tax liability in the UK but increases it in the other EU country where business taxes are lower.An example of one of the methods used by global players pursuing tax efficiency.
In the same vein every Amazon sale in the UK goes through Luxembourg for tax purposes and every Apple sale goes through Ireland.

Thanks for that mate.

whups your being whupped let it go ,when faced with the facts you do a walshy ,ignore the truth or slate every one as a bad un.slating the tories for every evil under the sun,when your own mob have blood on their hands ,are poor managers of the economy and anti semetic's as well as being,supporters of terrorist outfits .

no chance as all the evidence is on my side & he just puts statistics on here that,s being manipulated . iv,e said it before you will have blood on your hands when we leave & the good friday will cease & give rise to more deaths . i hope you can sleep at nights .and this absolute garbage has been blown out of the water by facebook & it,s trading in this country .

what a load of garbage

Ditto.

What a load of horse manure again.

How did you sleep after the Liar Blair got us into a war, Whups? He is after all a war criminal by way of the offence of waging an aggressive war, this was set out at the Nuremburg hearings.

So come on how did you sleep after the labour leader sent us to war? must have been happy with the decision as it was a Labour lie, you like to play the Blood On Hands card over Brexit at every whim. Did you wash the blood off your hands and just shrug your shoulders without a thought for the dead?

2.4 million iraqi deaths since 2003, as well as 179 British service men
makes you proud to be a Blair supporter does it whups?

Can't blame Brexit for that.

But they'll try.

whups and grim
how hard do you find defending the indefensible.
labour do not make mistakes, not like them evil tories.

how many times shud it take to get thru to you numptys ? . we had a vote & 360 mps voted for that war not tony blair & who was the leading spokesman for that war DAVID CAMERON . hope that makes you proud spangles.

How many would have voted for it had they known the truth behind the dodgy dossier?

Well they wouldn't have voted for it if they had known there were no weapons of mass destruction, but Tony was hell bent on invading Iraq, and I agreed with it, dodgy dossier or not, Saddam had caused enough trouble in the world, and he needed to be got rid of, but what amazed me was that even though experts were saying that a dangerous power vacuum would be created in Iraq, which could lead to civil war, which would be far more deadly than beating the Iraqi army, and we and the USA would be smack bang in the middle of it, and we would get hurt, and that is exactly what happened, so why didn't George and Tony not concentrate more on planning for a post Saddam Iraq, rather than thinking everything would be OK once they had got rid of Saddam.

whups how many of blair's huge majority where whipped into voting for the war.

you cant blame blair if he was lied to by the USA can you.and there wer,nt as many as you think baker boy.

Doughbrain .The font of all knowledge.

Perhaps you can advise just how many general elections Blair won AFTER the start of the conflict in iraq.

some of you lot make me laugh some times
please tell me how Corbyn can be antisemitic when Momentum founded by Jon Lansman,?? who is a jew you lot need to stop reading the daliy mail

i am called peter Israel because i am in Israel

Lots and lots of newspapers all over the world have carried stories of the rise of anti Semitism in the Labour Party so to simply quote the Mail is a bit off the mark. A quick google search shows all the reports.

the daily mail was a metaphor for tabloid press

Lots of extracts from the columns of “ non tabloid” newspapers on there.

take a look at this Israelprojects
sorry it has no pics

It’s ok regarding the pics. I’ll search out my reading glasses.

the best way to stop someone calling you a racist is by calling them a Antisemitic or Islamophobic

Peter you've meet more members off WW than most on here, nice to see you still look on here and POST

Thank you Peter. I shall beat that in mind. Not been to Israel since 1988.

Shalom

whups are you having me on with regard to bliar and his huge majority not voting for armed action .who did vote with bliar the tories and soppy lib dems.
the report from our ,i repeat our security forces was this .
no weapons of mass destruction are held by saddam hussein.
dont blame the yanks, our tony pulled our trigger.
the hornet's nest was well and truly poked by a very large stick.

סאלם שלום Tommy two Stroke
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יכול להיות שאני נוצרי או מוסלמי ?

חג סוכות שמח !

שלום

all 650 of them . get real.

413 labour mp's at the time of the iraq war.get the whips out were invading.