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Mesnes park,street etc?

Started by: megpotts (1)

Can anyone tell me about the title "Mesnes" which is so prominent in Wigan?
MegP

Started: 2nd Apr 2007 at 11:08

Posted by: christi (206)

A church house used to be called a Manse, could this be anything to do with it?

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 11:51

Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 12:59
Last edited by getwom: 8th Aug 2010 at 22:06:15

Posted by: tonker (25314) 

As getwom said. Demesne lands were lands witheld by 'the crown' when they distributed all the land to 'titles' and it is all listed in the domesday book. Wigan wasn't mentioned in the domesday book because it was part of Newton and there's a Mesnes Park in Newton too. When the lands were given to the general public, for the use of, (common land) it was reffered to as 'mesnes'. Probably.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 14:12

Posted by: coccium (2569) 

The word mesnes means estate as in Worsely Mesnes so it used to be the estate of the Worsely family from many years ago.

Replied: 2nd Apr 2007 at 14:59

Posted by: dave© (3507)

I still remember a BBC news presenter calling it Worsley Mes- Nes.

Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 00:15

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Mesnes , a mesne lord, that is, a lord who holds land of a superior, but grants a part of it to another person, in which case he is a tenant to the superior, but lord or superior to the second grantee, and hence is called the mesne lord

Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 01:10

Posted by: tonker (25314) 

Have a read through this ...... http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=41381&strquery=worsley%20mesnes






Replied: 3rd Apr 2007 at 20:39
Last edited by tonker: 3rd Apr 2007 at 20:40:23

Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Replied: 5th Apr 2007 at 11:26
Last edited by getwom: 8th Aug 2010 at 22:06:50

Posted by: tonker (25314) 

I wouldn't believe anything the council says. Including that. They don't know their arse from their elbow!

Replied: 5th Apr 2007 at 21:29

 

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