Council Tax 20/26

I got me Council Tax bill today, the thieving swine's, and this Mayoral precept thing is mounting up now, it's a rip off, from just a few quid a few years ago, to over 20% of the entire bill now LINK

You seem surprised APLS....didn't vote labour did you ?... All this was foreseen and people warned.....but......"Labour is for the working class"....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

No, I didn't vote Labour, and neither did I vote Conservative, but its that Andy Burnham charge, the cheeky sod, I don't see why I should pay to keep him living in the lap of luxury in Ashton in Makerfield

Lives in Leigh.

I thought he had lived in Golborne just off the East Lancs Road, but had now moved to Ashton in Makerfield.

In the 70s water rates were included with house rates. Then came poll tax, then council tax. Both together are nearly 200 quid a month, surely a few Bob for Andy Bunham not to much to ask?

And the many on benefits who are not paying Council tax where the difference in the Council Budget to provide the services which they themselves receive, the rest of us have to pay the difference to provide the services and which also includes the allowances of the Councillors.

They just check that there is 0 where it says the amount due while those who do pay just get a feeling that they have been again mugged!

Sir piers trying to sort it out ,then Tories made a mess of everything

Posted by: Handsomeminer (3070)
Sir piers trying to sort it out ,then Tories made a mess of everything

Replied: 18th Mar 2025 at 10:20

The local authority sets council tax. Labour controls Wigan Council.

Labour does not control Wigan Council.

I knew you'd pop up.

As soon as I read it, I thought, "he needs tellin'!"
I don't see how so many people don't understand who runs a council?

HAHAHA, here he comes, were have you been?

Posted by: tonker (29319) View tonker's page

As soon as I read it, I thought, "he needs tellin'!"
I don't see how so many people don't understand who runs a council?

Replied: 18th Mar 2025 at 14:04

The labour party don't RUN the council they CONTROL it

You're almost right.
What you should've said is, "they TRY to control it"!

When the Labour government decided to phase out grammar schools in favour of comprehensives the Labour controlled councils followed suit. However, in several Conservative areas the local councillors decided to ignore the government directive and voted to keep grammar schools. Had they not been in control of the local councils they couldn’t have achieved that objective.

Gaffer, basically, the government decided to combine secondary and grammar schools together. Labour agreed with the policy and tried to enforce it.
However, the LEA's of the time were given a choice, allowing each authority to decide on its own policy.
Some abolished grammar schools, some didn't.
Government creates policies, the parliamentary majority vote for or against them.
At the local authority level (councils), the council operates on behalf of the government and manages government policies, the political majority of the councillors TRY to control the council.
The councillors (political majority) don't run, or control, the council. The government does.

Tonker

I was on a Council committee, as an outside member, for 14 years. From what I saw the council was run by the executive. When the annual budget had been set, adhered to, and government grants concluded there was no need for any government involvement.
Birmingham Council has debts of over £2 billion. Council tax is being raised by 20% over 2 years. Warrington council isn’t far behind because of poor property and investment decisions. It’s difficult to see how such poor executive decisions would have been made had the government been in control of those councils.

"From what I saw the council was run by the executive."

Exactly!
Who pays the executive?
The Government. That's because the executive runs the council on behalf of the government and, more importantly, on their terms.

Currently, the UK Government is in debt to the tune of £2.7 trillion.

Tonker

This topic is going like the 2016 one regarding Sir John Charnley of Wrightington hospital fame.
I'm signing off in the same way. In response, at the time, you threw a few insults my way that prompted Jarvo to post,

"Waatch thi lip, owd lad...Tha's lost that one..."

Posted by: gaffer (8333) View gaffer's page
Harry Craven was appointed as a workshop technician to work on Charnley's programme. Up to that point Charnley had done some of the lathe work himself.
That's my last word on the subject. There's an intellectual gulf between us.

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 21:05
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Posted by: baker boy (15751)
gaffer your a real gent,most charmingly ended.

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 21:08

Posted by: fossil (7728)

There's an intellectual gulf between us

A real classic,well said gaffer

Replied: 5th Feb 2016 at 22:15

Posted by: tonker (29325) View tonker's page

(Comment removed because it broke the rules)

"This topic is going like the 2016 one regarding Sir John Charnley of Wrightington hospital fame.
I'm signing off in the same way."

Lost again? You just can't stand it if someone knows more than you about a subject.
As for the Charnley subject, you even claimed you know more about John Charnley's work than his wife did. What an awkward so-an'-so you are!

And that Jarvo had better watch his lip, too!

First Mate is right about who controls Wigan and by having a massive majority of Councillors from one party, it maybe the reason why Wigan has not progressed at the same level as other local towns where with a lower majority, Labour have to do things or be ousted!

Posted by: tonker (29327) View tonker's page

Lost again? You just can't stand it if someone knows more than you about a subject.

That's rich coming off you

There really is no need for all of this Annie Mossity

I'm so glad that some good folk still remember me.

Thank you, Gaffer.

Tonker:

Trevor Howard in Sons And Lovers as Morel, comes to mind.

@ jarvo
Tomplum thinks you are Basil brush. The thread was removed but this is still there.

A little known Fact
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