Council tax

Just read that Angela Raynor when asked if she would keep the 25% discount for single people dodged the question and wouldn't commit to keeping it......

Oh what a surprise..,get used to obscene taxes under labour...well done you Muppets who voted for them.....reap what you have sown.

Well done the Muppets who kept the Tories in power for 14 years highest taxation since WW2 and nothing to show for it, n 8 weeks of Labour government n the Tory propaganda Muppets are in full swing

No HM...how long will Joe public put up with "We inherited"...Reap what you have sown...it will get worse..who are they thieving off next ?. .

Doesn't really affect me but anybody wi kids will be paying for the tories fraud for tens of years!

Rio answer this Labour claim there's a 22 billion black hole if that's true why don't they fill it with the money they are giving immigrants train drivers young doctors or the over seas climate change money!!! I doubt you will answer but there you go.

Perhaps it will be means-tested, same as the heating allowance.
Why should a single person who works and has a high salary pay 25% less than a neighbour, who’s married and has a modest salary?

I totally agree, Tonker.
I would say their property values would be the same , and also I would say that their energy / food / utility bills would be less.

A single person possibly has more disposable income than a married couple with a family.

I can't understand why they would fritter away money paying young doctors to keep the country alive? Also train drivers have not had a pay rise in 4yrs and the useless government would not try to negotiate with them, trying to smash the unions like they did with the Pitmen. So it really is good to know there are some good old fashioned union bashes on this site. Disgrace!

Cheshirecat and tonker

Whups will not be happy with your opinion!

rio caroni

Regarding your comment about train drivers not having had a pay rise in four years, may I respectfully suggest that you look at at the internet and look at what they get in comparison to what other employees in other essential jobs get!

And like every pay rise in the rail industry, the cost is passed onto the passengers in increased fares!

It's so easy to drive a train with hundreds of passengers lives at stake. Did you pass the test to drive one OC?

riocaroni

I drive trains everyday

(some) train drivers are paid more than (some) airline pilots.
Which of those two jobs would you consider to be the most stressful?

I fly planes too

I controlled a plane yesterday. Today I might be painting!

Would you fly a plane for less money than a train driver? More fool them.

I doo it for fwee

Why should someone on a very good wage get the discount......agree, but they are far and few between compared to the pensioner still here after losing their spouses. On top of losing the fuel payment it can drag millions into shameful poverty. What about the single parents with children to feed, do they not count. Handsome miner says it's all propaganda but the attack on pensioners is FACT.

The Widow Tax

Frecky.
The single occupancy council tax reduction is based on the assumption that there is only one adult residing in the property.
There are single parent reduction schemes available, but it varies depending on which local council you are governed by. Its worth checking out if it affects you, or anyone that you know

Same old same old....the scroungers on benefits pay nothing again....When will this feeble run country address the benefits system and realise these 3rd 4th generation nee'r-do-wells take everything and contribute NOTHING.

^^^^^
Coming from a person whom watches television but will not pay the licence fee!
That is the ultimate in scrounging

I honestly feel sorry for this man / woman / child. I don't think he / she knows the meaning of the word hypocrisy!

That is a very Catty remark.

Unfortunately, not all single people have more disposable income. I know I don't. Even though I'm 74 I still work to add to my pension, which is very good, but, my gas (cooker only) and electricity bills are approximately £200 a month, plus all other bills.

As most folk know, I don't normally join in discussions with regard to governmental decisions but, a little tale to relate which may be of interest.

About 10 years ago I saw something on TV about a Warm Home Scheme which included attic lagging, cavity wall insulation and a new central heating boiler, so I applied. To cut a long story short, I qualified for the lagging and cavity wall, but I didn't qualify for a new boiler, even as a pensioner living alone.

Why not? Because I've never drawn any benefits in my life, so I've had no central heating since 2013 when my boiler was condemned, having been installed in 1983. I was shocked by this, and so was the nice man who came to my house to take details as he didn't know until he looked into it more closely.

So, the 25% reduction in Council Tax has been very helpful and it would be yet another bad decision if we were also deprived of this; but nothing surprises me anymore with any government, and that's why I never vote for the blighters!

Cheshire cat, I'm a widower but thankfully have enough income. With regard to single parent schemes, as you say not all councils have it, so if you're unlucky to live in an area that doesn't, then they have a problem. There are millions just above pension credit who'll not only lose two or three hundred pounds to cover heating bills but lose around £32 per month. Not a lot when you're reasonably fixed but a lot to people on the border line.

I know a few pensioners and none are crying “poverty’!
I realise that some will be, but they are safe enough.
Mollie, I would imagine you on full state pension plus, maybe, a private or ‘works’ pension?
Plus you’re still getting a wage for working! Yet you can’t manage a new boiler?

Tonker:

Yes, I get full pension but no others. I only work 12 hours a week so don't get much of a wage. I get enough to keep my head above water, pay my bills and run my car and, although I could probably run to a new boiler if I tightened me belt so that it choked me, all my radiators are probably now out of service, so it's not just a new boiler I'd need, I'd need a whole new system. Bear in mind, the whole system I have is 40 years old. I could have done with the new boiler a few years ago, but I've managed without since.

rio caroni

No, I have never driven one, but I know a present day train driver who admitted to me that he was well paid for the driving he did today on diesel/electric trains and multiple units compared to the days when his not so well paid father drove steam engines after being a back breaking fireman for a few years before he qualified to be a driver.

billinge biker. We are reaping the mess that the Tories left and Labour are tring to fix

Trying to fix .....yer avin a Laff....

Oc, is it wrong to try and achieve a well paid job?

Train drivers have to be alert for every minute of the journey and nothing less than 100% concentration will suffice. Although a pilot is a highly skilled job most of the flight is done in auto pilot, apart from take offs a landings.

The train drivers more than deserved their rise and the unions and the members must take great credit for not backing down to acheive it.

So it all right for ASLEF drivers already on very good pay to keep holding the country to ransom in order to get inflation busting pay rises which are then passed on to to the fare paying passengers?

Try telling it to the regular everyday fare paying passengers who cannot get to and from work or those going on holiday, only to find that their trains has been cancelled by yet another strike led by a left wing extremist!

I was under the impression that we had left behind the bad old days of the seventies etc and the like of Red Robbo, but it appears to be still be existent in the railway industry and some non thinking people on Wigan World.

Bet you've crossed many a picket line!

Cat woman....I am not scrounging...I refuse to pay for the crap service they offer and paying tossers large amounts of money. I have regained over half of the heating allowance they have stolen...plus cancelled all my charity donations saving me over £500 a year...their loss ...not mine. You are back on ignore as you talk crap like your old mate the has been SD.

I'm "back on ignore".
Ive never even been on it! Who are you trying to kid?
Same with your mate, Ive never been on he's either

Have a good day.
Meow

rio caroni

Wrong as I stood on many a picket line in the fifty years or so of my working life which have included the seven week postal disprute where at the time, I was working for Royal Mail, the Eddie Shar print disprute which included the imfamous night battle of Winnick Quay and the 1984 miners disprute.

Two disprutes by employees fighting against a loss of many jobs and ruthless employers like Eddie Shah and Rupert Murdoch in the printing industry and a mining disprute against the Thatcher Tory Govenment out to end the mining industry and the other disprute to get a decent rate of pay for postmen and women whose wage at the time was going well behind the rate of inflation,.

Were you there in all thee disprutes in support!

When did you turn Tory then OC

Will a kind soul tell the Cretin...when you are on ignore I can't and don't want to see your drivel...SD's understudy

You managed to see my "drivel" about you scrounging free TV without paying for your Television licence, piggy backing on the backs of honest licence payers

How odd. You can, and you did see my post! How did you manage to see that post if I'm on ignore?
Do you to have a crystal ball?

Ive never even been on ignore! Who are you trying to kid?
Same with your mate, Ive never been on he's either

And you have the audacity to call me a cretin!
You have been found out good style!

Meow

Handsomeminer

Never been a Tory and never will be, but there is a diffrence between good trade union practices of fighting for better pay and conditions, fighting to retain jobs etc, etc and bad trade union practices where certain unions like ASLEF led by left wing extremists hold the country to ransome in order to get inflation busting pay rises which not only affect fellow workers and result in inflationary price increases, but alinate many of the fellow workers and public against the trade union movement.

Owdcodger.
I thought that was the Trade unions job to get the best deal it can for its members, regardless of what Trade union you are in?
That is exactly what the train drivers union did!

What exactly is your gripe with the train drivers getting a decent pay rise?
Do you begrudge them a decent pay rise?

Hey up miners back which mine do you work at miner? You've not been a miner since 1989 so why do you claim to be?????

More rubbish from of and eggbeater

Cheshirecat

The fact that they are already well paid in comparison to many other essential jobs of more importance!

Many in lesser paid jobs where if they cannot go on strike like train drivers because it affects health care for people.

Handsomedminer

You always say that whenever you don't like any truth being told !

p.s. and its Owd Codger, not of!

Posted by: Owd Codger
"Many in lesser paid jobs where if they cannot go on strike like train drivers because it affects health care for people."

Really?
I'm sure the junior doctors were on strike earlier this year! Did you not realise that

Cheshire Puss

Yoo are in fine fettle at the moment, 'Ruining' folk in here left, right and centre, you remind me of someone

Rosa Klebb

From Russia with Love.
There's plenty of acting going on!

Tommy.

Some people " ruin " themselves without any aiding, abetting, or prompting from anyone else!

It comes natural to some people. I wish I had that skill

Gaffer

I had to google that, but the one she reminds me of looked quite nice, but saying that she once said that she was a man

Owd codger sorry for the OF it's a genuine mistake down to predictive texting

If it's rubbish pitmon tell us which mine you work at?? Let's see who telling porkies

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