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Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (16257)

Is it going to kick off in Bolton today, because the police seem to think so, it will be happening in Wigan soon LINK

Bolton News LINK

Started: 4th Aug 2024 at 14:33

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

The right wing extremist facist parties are trouble makers, but the other side who are members/supporters of left wing extremist parties like the Socialists Workers Party, Communist Party are are just as bad!

Time that the who whole lot of them were prescribed there should be no place for them in a democratic society!

Replied: 4th Aug 2024 at 15:13
Last edited by Owd Codger: 4th Aug 2024 at 15:37:16

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16257)

Bolton Riot LINK

I used to work in a shop in Bradshawgate, close to where the camera was filming that riot.

Replied: 5th Aug 2024 at 14:17

Posted by: tonker (28602) 

In that film, there's Whites, Blacks and Asians all together, jeering and taunting the police.
What does that tell you?
Firstly, I'll bet there are no immigrants in the crowd.
What does that tell you? Racism doesn't come into it!

Replied: 5th Aug 2024 at 14:56

Posted by: tommy39 (511) 

but its ok for muslims to preach their hatred,owd codger,,enough is enough. muslims in bolton openly carrying knives machette's,hammers in plain view of the police who stood there and did nothing.while we get attacked with dogs and batons,that we pay for..two tier policing

Replied: 5th Aug 2024 at 17:33

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

The public need to starting thinking for themselves about what is going on in the country in regard to the issues which are affecting our daily lives and not be sidetracked and led by by the left wing propaganda of the Daily Mirror.

Todays front page being a prime example!

Perhaps even look at the comments by Andy Burnham on Bolton News and many of the responses by members of the public saying it is not just about right wing facists and the yobbo element, but the way our country is going more and more downhill as a result of the open doors policy on immigration.

Replied: 6th Aug 2024 at 10:22
Last edited by Owd Codger: 6th Aug 2024 at 10:34:52

Posted by: whups (14100) 

so right wing propaganda by farage & tommy robinson isnt the cause of this thuggery , looting & damage of property then todger ? .

Replied: 6th Aug 2024 at 11:55

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2902)

So It's 5 week of left wing propaganda not 14 years of right wing propaganda (and total mismanagement) that has ruined the country

Replied: 6th Aug 2024 at 12:21

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

As a result of the far right EDF and its leader Tommy Robinson whipping up the brain dead into rioting, looting ect, they have only succeded in giving the Government, Police and the Media the means of distracting attention away from what the protests were actually about ie. the level of immigration and the failure to stop the ilegal immigrants from crossing the channel.

Over a week has passed and all we are still heaing about in the media is about the rioting and looting and who were the rioters and looters, but nothing now about the way that immigration is affecting our country or the boat people.

Well done EDL and Tommy Robinson!

Replied: 9th Aug 2024 at 14:40
Last edited by Owd Codger: 9th Aug 2024 at 14:46:45

Posted by: gaffer (8171) 

Handsome miner

The failure of the Tory governments over the last 14 years is down to the leaders not being Tories..
David Cameron is a liberal by nature as are Theresa May, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. I’m ignoring Liz Truss because of her short tenure when PM,
A natural Tory leader would have challenged the extent of the Covid lockdown . It would have been far less severe and added far less to the country’s debt .
At the election people didn’t vote Tory because they felt let down but they didn’t want to vote Labour for historic reasons. As a percentage of the total voting electorate just over 20% voted Labour. The vote share of those voting Labour on the day was 33.7%.

Replied: 9th Aug 2024 at 16:53

Posted by: cheshirecat (1259) 

And also the tories scraped into second place with just 9% more votes than the Reform party.

Replied: 9th Aug 2024 at 17:05

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

And despite their unpopularity, the Tories were only 4% behind Labour who finished with 411 seats in a landslide.

Hardly demorcratic and more like a Whitehall farce!

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 08:01

Posted by: cheshirecat (1259) 

I think you will find that the tories were 10% behind Labour, not 4%

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 09:30

Posted by: tonker (28602) 

The %’s are all relative.

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 10:46

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

cheshirecat

You are indeed correct about the 10% percentage difference of votes between Labour and the Tories, but if you add the combined percentage vote of the Tories to that of Reform which is a more right wing party than the Tories, it is 4% higher than what Labour got on the left.

Sorry for the mistake in not puttig it correctly!

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 14:10
Last edited by Owd Codger: 10th Aug 2024 at 14:46:53

Posted by: tonker (28602) 

Like I said earlier, it's all relative. You could say, "Labour got 20.8% of the available votes to Conservative's 14.3%". That looks like Labour got 6.5% more votes. Or you could say Labour got 59.3% and Conservatives got 40.7%.
Whichever way you look at it, Labour won the election.

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 15:20

Posted by: cheshirecat (1259) 

If you look at it in seat gains, it was a gigantic swing to the Labour party.

They gained 166 seats and the tories lost 238.
That in itself speaks volumes of what the British public thought of the previous lying government.

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 16:03

Posted by: tonker (28602) 

The electorate, along with the bulk of the population, could see the need for change. But that change has turned out to be somewhat a choice between a rock or a hard place.

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 16:10

Posted by: cheshirecat (1259) 

I agree, Tonker.

I neither voted for Labour ( which I have done all my life ) or the tories.
I would never vote conservative. Even if my life depended on it. Unless, if Enoch Powell was in charge.
That is how strongly I feel at the moment with the immigration situation.

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 17:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16257)

Replied: 10th Aug 2024 at 17:25

Posted by: Billinge Biker (2646) 

Duff gen...removed

Replied: 12th Aug 2024 at 14:09
Last edited by Billinge Biker: 12th Aug 2024 at 14:13:08

Posted by: tonker (28602) 

"West'ouw'n, Bouw'n, 'in'ly, Wiggin an' Ince"!

Replied: 12th Aug 2024 at 14:48

Posted by: Domin0 (696)

This New Labour are not interested in us,they do nothing when Muslim's cause trouble,eg Stoke were hundreds of them caused trouble,and most had weapons, the police watched and did nothing,the government control the police!!,I am glad I did'nt vote for them,and voted Reform.

Replied: 12th Aug 2024 at 16:17
Last edited by Domin0: 12th Aug 2024 at 16:18:49

Posted by: Owd Codger (3689)

The Government and the Police claim that that the Muslims were only protecting their homes and businesses, but choose to ignore the the fact that many of them were carrying weapons and chanting anti white and British racist slogans.

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 08:02

Posted by: whups (14100) 

so you think that EDL have the right to burn , loot , destroy people.s property & goods do you todger .

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 10:38

Posted by: eggbeater (3245)

Buffoon The EDL was disbanded years ago! Don't you think it's about time you started speaking the truth billy bullshit!

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 10:41

Posted by: whups (14100) 

billy liar that claim was by robinson who,s a bigger liar than you . no truth in it & he,s making a fortune from numptys like you .

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 11:09

Posted by: eggbeater (3245)

So if he's a bigger liar than.me why do you believe him? Like I said totally brain-dead idiot you

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 11:29

Posted by: whups (14100) 

i dont but it seems numptys like you do . how much do you pay the edl out of your dole money .

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 11:37

Posted by: whups (14100) 

IT,S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH by supporting a faction like the edl who are a dictitorial thuggery bunch of freeloaders , just like you flipperhead .

Replied: 13th Aug 2024 at 11:46

 

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