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Started by: surfer_tom (852)

Rushi sunak says today
Migration to high we need to get it to sustainable levels ,looks like he changed his tune what is sustainably levels.

Started: 27th Nov 2023 at 15:52
Last edited by surfer_tom: 27th Nov 2023 at 15:53:23

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

Surfer Tom

They all say that, and they never get it down.

Replied: 27th Nov 2023 at 16:02

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Tts
It looks like there has been a change on rwanda,they sound split

Replied: 27th Nov 2023 at 16:38

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

Rwanda, will never get approved in the life of this parliament, (1yr max) the next parliament (5yrs) and the one after that.

Replied: 27th Nov 2023 at 18:25

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Why does he keep
Throwing money at it good money after bad,or does he thinks it makes him look good ,

Replied: 27th Nov 2023 at 18:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

Yes, he is trying to divert the attention of the public away from the boat people, in the hope that he can somehow be reelected at the fast approaching general election, to which I expect the situation to be worse when Kier Starmer and the Labour Party win the next election, and by that I am not being a Tory, I have no time for both Labour & Tory, but if a gun was held to my head, and they said "vote for one or the other" I would vote Labour.

Replied: 27th Nov 2023 at 18:54

Posted by: whups (13022) 

most of those who are here are LEGAL immigrants & very little who have come over on boats . wot about those who have left ? .

Replied: 28th Nov 2023 at 00:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)


Replied: 28th Nov 2023 at 00:38

Posted by: whups (13022) 

right again johnson is a big girls blouse .

Replied: 28th Nov 2023 at 01:22

Posted by: First Mate (2257)

Robert Jenrick's resignation letter





Replied: 6th Dec 2023 at 20:54

Posted by: peter israel (2077) 


Why does he keep
Throwing money at it good money after bad,or does he thinks it makes him look good ,

BECAUSE IT NOT HIS MONEY!!!!!!

Replied: 6th Dec 2023 at 22:20

Posted by: peter israel (2077) 

the most interesting part of the Rwanda, deal is that Rwanda can send there citizens to the UK

Can anyone see a problem with that

Replied: 6th Dec 2023 at 22:25
Last edited by peter israel: 6th Dec 2023 at 23:02:11

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Jenrick has resigned to join braverman they can both vote against sunaks new treaty,,in the deal they made with Rwanda, Rwanda can can send their asylum seeker to uk ,and we wiil pay for them to come here , who the Hellas thought of that

Replied: 6th Dec 2023 at 22:39

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Serious problems now for Tory party split some Tory mps want rishi gone

Replied: 6th Dec 2023 at 22:49

Posted by: PeterP (11119)

Are there plans to built more floating hotels? and if there are ship them to some remote island in Scotland

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 07:25

Posted by: MrsC (73) 

Bring in a law that states those coming by boat must serve 2 years national service before they're considered for citizenship . The crossings will stop in a week .

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 09:47

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Mrs C
Then we would have a army of immigrants don't think it would work torys made a a big cock up now they have no idea how to solve it ,spending millions of pounds of our money

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 10:30

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

Surfer Tom

To stop the boats coming across, we need to leave the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights) so which Party is most likely to take us out of the ECHR ?

Will the Labour Party take us out of the ECHR ?

Will the Tory Party take us out of the ECHR ?

The answer is that both Parties will not take us out of the ECHR.

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 11:07

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

TTS
Your right but but the Torys are infighting they
Don't care about people or the country or how much it cost needs an election

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 11:40

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

Surfer Tom

Yes the Tories are in turmoil, and it looks highly likely that there will be an election in the spring, sooner if they implode and a vote of confidence is called, which they then lose, which should be unheard of with the majority the Tories have got in parliament, but I can see a lot of Tory MP's turning on their own party, because they are going to lose their seats at the next election, so they have nothing to lose by bringing the government down.

But what are Labour going to do to stop the boats coming across ? because Labour will face the same legal obstacles which the Tories have had to deal with, and they say they are going to smash the people traffickers in France, so how are they going to do that ?

If in the Labour Party manifesto at the next general election, they say they will give me a bus pass now, and not make me wait until I am 66, I am going to vote Labour

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 11:58

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2678)

Just got mine TTS I've not been on a bus for 20 year to be honest can't see me going on one for another 20 year

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 12:01

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

TTS
Trouble is there as Been that many tory ministers
In the last few years and they all claim to be right ,
Next thing they are up the road with a nice golden handshake nice work if you can get it I'm alright Jack

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 12:14

Posted by: First Mate (2257)

Are ministers who resign given a "golden handshake" Surfer tom

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 12:42

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

First mate
Check out how much boris johnson got and his cabinet who all resigned eye watering

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 16:40

Posted by: gaffer (7915) 

Surfer Tom

It may be eye watering to you but in the overall scheme of things it’s well below that of many other countries.
There’s no doubt the current standard of UK Ministers and shadow ministers is well below what’s desired. It won’t change for the better until the level of remuneration attracts more talented people to a career in UK politics.
Some of the leaders of EU countries receive more than twice the UK Prime Ministers salary.

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 17:22

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

My heart bleeds ,most pensioners will telL youl they are lowest paid in europe
Beside having to work the longest, now struggling with cost of living,don't see many mps complaing about
Remuneration ,

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 18:43
Last edited by surfer_tom: 7th Dec 2023 at 18:49:10

Posted by: cheshirecat (996) 

There are a lot of people struggling, not just pensioners!
I know a few pensioners that are doing alright financially.
The state pension is a bonus to them on top of their private pensions!

Not all pensioners are poor!
Don't get me wrong, I am aware of that a lot of pensioners are struggling. But also a lot of people who are in employment are also in the same boat.


Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 19:13

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Yes. there seems to be wealthy and impoverished in all walks of life. Even in the once well to do professions. Not long ago in the news, we had barristers leaving their profession as they earned too little to survive.

Replied: 7th Dec 2023 at 19:31

Posted by: surfer_tom (852)

Cheshire cat
State pension is a bonus are you serious ,

Replied: 8th Dec 2023 at 10:59

Posted by: cheshirecat (996) 

Surfertom.
Don't shoot the messenger.

Its what I was told a few years ago whilst on holiday. Both had good company pensions, so they said.

Replied: 8th Dec 2023 at 11:24
Last edited by cheshirecat: 8th Dec 2023 at 11:26:08

Posted by: gaffer (7915) 

There are close to three quarters of a million UK pensioners paying the 40% tax rate. Over 8 million pensioners are paying income tax.

Replied: 8th Dec 2023 at 11:50

Posted by: peter israel (2077) 

gaffer you cant make a statement !!!
Surfer Tom

It may be eye watering to you but in the overall scheme of things it’s well below that of many other countries. With out naming the other countries
And With out showing were you get your information from!!!!!
have you seen just their pensions MPs' Pension Scheme and this is from 2016

Replied: 8th Dec 2023 at 12:15
Last edited by peter israel: 8th Dec 2023 at 12:23:38

Posted by: gaffer (7915) 

Peter Israel

It wasn’t about occupational pensions, it was stated that UK NI pensions are much lower than their European counterparts.
UK pensioners can obtain pension credit if they qualify. It’s a tax free top up which can open the door to other financial benefits. Over 3 million UK households qualify for pension credit.

Replied: 8th Dec 2023 at 12:50

Posted by: albion (392)

People from Poland all seemed to want to do their bit and work.These lot comming know seem to be happy getting help and working on the side tax free.example Working at car washes cash in hand are selling second hand cars.Will our Goverment send these people letters about looking for fulltime jobs are it just for English people.

Replied: 18th Dec 2023 at 15:26

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Poles have gone back home, apart from those who have put down roots here and started small businesses.

Now replaced by incomers from India and Nigeria.
(Their numbers dwarf the asylum seekers)
And I doubt they will be offering you keen deals on house extension, kitchen fitting and such like.

Now, don't complain
As one member on here likes to tell you,
IT'S WHAT YOU VOTED FOR!

Replied: 18th Dec 2023 at 17:08

Posted by: albion (392)

pensioners who have worked all there lives dont get anything free .paid into the system all their lives.

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 09:45

Posted by: peter israel (2077) 

it not because of immigrants that the NHS is on it's knees it because of
pensioners living to long ... if you want to fix the NHS stop treating old people after 70 unless they pay private.....

i know some will say that they have worked all there life and paid into the system !!!! but that money has been spent unless you have a private pension....

the only way to fix this is for the government to rise more income by1 rise Taxes 2 rise the pension age 3 increase the work force and the only way to do that is through an increase in birthrate or immigrants or production......

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 10:20

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15082)

That is not even worthy of a reply, even though I am replying to it

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 11:13

Posted by: whups (13022) 

peter isreal this government is hell bent on privitising the NHS & done it,s upmost to introduce private companies into the NHS which it,s now riddled with them & some are sitting on the board of it . we do NOT WANT a system like america were it,s a 2 tier system & the lesser NHS system is for those who cannot afford their grossly expensive medical insurance which causes deaths because of poorness . if you want your own health on the cheap then so be it but please refrain from wishing it on us over here as it,s bad enough with these jokers in charge as it is . most of the money goes to contracts given out to private companies who provide a cheap & shoddy response for the money they recieve . i notice you dont mention the money given out freely to the rich & big businesses who dont pay their fair share of tax & the baroness mone case in question ? . maybe you shud direct your attention in that direction in the future .

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 11:37

Posted by: gaffer (7915) 

The three specialist NHS hospitals in Greater Manchester, The Christie, The heart and lung centre at Wythenshawe and the head and stroke unit at Salford Royal provide the best possible care, NHS or private, outside of London.
Unfortunately there are NHS hospitals up and down the country where the standard of care requires improving. In most cases this is neglected because any attempt to improve matters is often side-lined due to shouts of privatisation.

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 11:52

Posted by: peter israel (2077) 

this was me being sarcastic

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 11:54

Posted by: whups (13022) 

well please refrain from it there,s enough on here as it is .

Replied: 19th Dec 2023 at 12:10

Posted by: albion (392)

without workers there there will be no handouts there will be nothing'

Replied: 20th Dec 2023 at 10:22

 

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