Shamimi Bygum

"Shamima Begum to find out today if she is allowed back in the UK"



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TTS waving a red flag again

i hope she has the same expression has the 1st pic later the terrorist whore!

Shamima Begum will not be allowed to return to the UK, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission has ruled.

The court decided to dismiss the 23-year-old's appeal on all grounds.

From sky news.

That won't be the end of it though will it, I am sure she will keep appealing and appealing and appealing and appealing and appealing, until they get sick of her appealing, and then they will let her back into this country.

I think that she should be let back in, and locked up for about 10yrs, with a 20yr sentence, if she was told that, she might stop trying to get back here, and will stop where she is, or bugger off to somewhere else.

seems you never learn 1stroke as if your last rant proved . did she "do a bunk" too ? .

Give her a council house in Haydock she,'ll soon be back abroad

Whupsy

"seems you never learn 1stroke as if your last rant proved . did she "do a bunk" too ?"

What has that got to do with this topic ?

But saying that, now that you mention it, YES, she did do a bunk to Syria.

She'll be in a dinghy soon.

shell difinetley will be blowing summat

Did any of you see TV programme, I think it was about six weeks or so back?

They ran some of the video of her interviews, with commentary from someone interpreting the body language accompanying her verbal utterances.

It did not look good.

Of course, you would expect her to say that which most favours her bid to return to UK, but this exercise did strongly suggest that in spite of what she says, her sympathies are still contrary to the interests of the UK.

Another point is if she was allowed back she would want her husband here when he is released.Human rights and all that.

She is horrible.

everything 1stroke . that mouth of yours is getting you in allsorts of trouble .

Something for the panel to think about…..,

She was 15 and was being groomed by Muslim extremists when she left the uk.

What is the normal response when a 15 year old girl gets groomed by Muslims?

I will leave it at that

TOMMY 2 /S /
You said "She should be let back in " and put in jail !
Well bud my response to that is NO BLOODY WAY !
Why the hell should the genuine British Tax -Payer ,PAY for her upkeep for what ever years you were saying to give her , NO,NEVER,KEEP THE TERROIST AWAY . G.B.

Why do you want to jail a girl who at age 15 was groomed and coerced into making the wrong choices GB?

Golden Bear

If she realises that she will never be allowed back into this country, then what is to stop her moving on and taking up with a new bloke, a rich bloke, she could then be living the life of Riley, or maybe the life of Abdul, she might never want for anything again, so if she was brought back to this country, she could be punished for taking up with ISIS.

and she could be monitored . at least murderers get their day in court , why cant she ? .

She couldn’t have an appeal hearing in a UK court because she isn’t a British citizen. She lost the appeal against the removal of her British citizenship.

Isn't that a contradiction?

The Bethnal Green 3 thought were being clever by wanting to join up with ISIS but it backfired on them. Now the one remaining , Ms Bygum thinks that by dressing like a western woman, jeans, baseball cap, that we'll all forgive her and let her back in the country.
No chance stay where you are and repent at leisure.

The video we are shown depicts them travelling without anyone around enforcing any coercion. Surely if they now claim she was trafficked, then evidence of such a claim is required.

Similarly in respect of being groomed: was it not they who initiated their own radicalisation?

We are all subject to people trying to influence us: when does it become grooming? It's a bit like Putin claiming that the West has been groomed by Zelenskyy: that is when he is not claiming that Zelenskyy has been groomed by the West!

I hope she never sets foot in the UK, and I don't believe any of them were groomed.

Here’s the judgement. It’s a long read but interesting,

Verdict

the difference is SD the white girls are groomed and forced into sex the terrorist whore went gladly half way around the world with two others to whore herself willingly cue the bollocks

On the subject of bollocks......how do you know white groomed girls are `forced` into sex?

Sensible answers only please

This is a description of grooming so with it in mind can you explain the difference please......ta

So......please explain to me. and the rest the of the panel how she as a 15 year old WASNT groomed.




Take your time

End of the day LG all we know is what we are being told by the media, with this in mind I am curious to know how you can come to the conclusion you have.

If a 15 year old girl s talked in having sex she is a victim
If a 15 year old girl is talked into joining a terrorist organisation she is a villain.

Can you explain to me where the differences are please.

Again.....sensible answers only

I see someone is racking his numbers up tonight. Have any of you ever worked in a Muslim country and seen the dislike of the infidels?

No…,,,but I have done a lot of work in this country and seen the dislike of Muslims.

What’s your point exactly?

SD tell me this why are none whites so especially muslims so easily brainwashed? are they all backward and cant turn their computers off and wasnt her familys friend a chief constable or something? why did he not notice she was being groomed?

Broady: me, me, me.
It is illuminating. No free education, health, etc... no tolerance of others religion. Not allowed to own property. No benefits. Corruption almost as rife as here.
And sitting on some of the richest minerals in the world.

Please LG.
before I answer your questions will you answer mine, after all I put them to you first.......thanks

You have made some claims Lg so before we go any further you need to back them up.........

They are both your beliefs and your understanding of the situation and i respect that but can you back them up and elaborate please

Thanks

Just a reminder LG....


the difference is SD the white girls are groomed and forced into sex

.That's how you see it..............so convince me I should also see it that way

"the terrorist whore went gladly half way around the world with two others to whore herself willingly"

Really?
And how do you know this LG?

C-mon LG .
You know me
I dont take sides. or jump to conclusions or allow myself to be influenced by the media. I always sit on the fence, take an unbiased view, listen to both sides of the story etc and then form my own views and opinions, because that what sensible mature and decent people do

With this in mind why should I follow your line?......convince me at age 15 how and why she was a terrorist whore who wasn't influenced by extremists and how and why you know this for a fact.

Most 15 year olds don't know what they want for their tea let alone anything else but hey.......you seem to know something we dont so......shoot.......and make it count

At this rate he should hit 15,000 comments before Christmas.

Does this concern you broady, and if so why?

It doesn’t matter to me because I don’t see it but I feel that when someone posts four or five comments without reply it is a tad boring/ crap. Why are you concerned? Who were you previously on here?

"Shamima Begum been found guilty of association and that is it and for that she got her British citizenship revoked !!! And you don't see anything wrong with that legally??? forget what colour she is for a minute although we all know this would not happen if it was a white girl [ The Peru Two ]
The consequences of this being a precedent could be far more dangers then some 15 year old kid having an adventure.....

Good old Boardy, another holier than thou gammon who claims to ignore me……..but doesn’t. .

When you decide to grow a pair and talk to me like a man. Face to face then you can judge me

The number of postings by the same person shows what side he is on where terrorism is concerned!

Really?

And how exactly have you come to that conclusion Todger?

In this country the law allows prosecution of 10 year old children so it presumes they know right from wrong. I knew what I was doing at 15 and also at 10 because my parents had brought me up to know. Where were her parents? Saying she was groomed is rubbish.

This woman was given a free first class education and health care and could have gone on to have a flourishing life. She chose to throw that away.

She has a Belgium husband. When he gets out of jail she can go and live with him. She is not stateless.

Woman .?
Surely a child at that age .

Saying she was groomed is rubbish?

Why?

Did you ever see her NOT being groomed…or influenced or coerced?

15 year old girls also know that underage sex is illegal..does that stop it happening?

And what exactly does the fact you claim YOU knew what you were doing at age 15 have to do with it?

S D .

Tonks: But she's got very hairy legs.

I'll take it sledge is sticking up for the terrorist, I wonder if he is the father of the baby ??

Grimshaw: Yes, a woman now, a child then.

When I was 15, like everyone else, I said and did many foolish things but one mistake I successfully managed to avoid making: at no point did I flee the country to join the world's most notorious terrorist group.

I must have been incredibly mature for my age. You know, the teachers used to marvel at my cool-headed resistance to the attractions of global terrorism. “That boy Platty, in year 10, do you know he’s never perpetrated a single terrorist atrocity? No beheadings, no bombings, nothing. Incredible, isn’t it. Talk about wise beyond his years.”

At church coffee mornings, all the mothers would enviously wonder how I’d managed to avoid getting mixed up in militant fundamentalism.

“Mrs Platty, I hope you don’t mind my asking a personal question, but… is it true that your son has never fled the country to join an international terrorist organisation?”

“It is, yes.”

“Well, I must say, you’ve been very lucky. Fleeing the country to join an international terrorist organisation is all the rage among the young folk nowadays. You know how it is with teenagers. Always desperate to keep up with the latest trends. Our Emily’s going through an international terrorist phase at the moment. Her bedroom walls are covered with posters of Carlos the Jackal she’s cut out of Smash Hits.”

And then, the adult gatherings:

“For pity’s sake, the poor girl was only 15. You can’t possibly expect a mere teenager to know that it’s wrong to join a proscribed terrorist network engaged in carrying out the mass slaughter of innocent people.”

“Anyway, we’ve all done it. When I was in the Guides we used to hold charity bake sales to raise money for the Baader-Meinhof Gang.”

“I had a Saturday job delivering ransom notes for Boko Haram.”

“I did two weeks’ work experience with Hezbollah.”

“Exactly. The Government really ought to be more forgiving of these little youthful excesses. Let he who hasn’t run away from home at the age of 15 to join a genocidal death cult cast the first stone.”

There you are grimshaw, is that what you were raising your glass to?

Not really Tom. I don't stick up for terrorists .....I am just asking how and why people are coming to their conclusions on the matter when basically they know FA about it

I am seeing lots of self righteous and substantiated comments and BS but unfortunately (and not surprisingly) I have yet to see a single sensible answer

SD, Do you agree with the courts decision.

She was a child at 15.
A woman now.
There you have it pal.

Grimshaw pal - you haven't read my post. At 15, he knew what she was doing, she was then and now here a danger to people of Britain.

Thank you for being my pal.

Thats your opinion .
Mine differs from yours .

End of .

At midnight

Quest Red (Freeview channel 40)

'Shamima Begum: A Faking It...'

"Body language and linguistics experts evaluate likely truthfulness"

I saw this weeks ago: it's an eye opener!

****ty is just like the rest of them Grimmy

He will sit there all day and tell us he is right but he can’t sit there and tell us….WHY….he is right!

There is a special world for people like that, and that word is…Gob***te!

Posters should also take notice that those defending or feeling sorry for her on the topic are the ones who vote for a certain political party at election time!

Who is defending her Todge?

I can’t see anyone

And why should someone who chooses to defend her vote for a particular party?


Have you got any answers?

Or are you just another gobsh**e?

It's the website nasty man again!

Come on Todger

Underage lads have always gone off and joined the the army or navy.Those who came back from wars,especially in the last century,are treated with respect and were admired.The danger withBegum is that in certain Muslim areas is that she could be seen as some sort of hero.She is a danger whether she allowed back in this country or not because of this.If she was allowed back which way would she go,no doubt she would have the potential to influence people and probably make a lot of money.She will have been assessed by security services and is seen as a danger to this country and they know what she did and what she was involved with.Don’t let us forget what an evil organisation ISIS did.There is no way I personally want her back in this country.

What she did and what she may potentially do is not the real issue here
.
If the government let her back in it would set a very dangerous precedent. Meaning they would have to consider letting everyone else who lost their citizenship for similar reasons back in.

Of course.....non of the `self righteous brothers` passing comment on the subject understand or have even considered this......but should the more intelligent amongst us be surprised?

I think not

SD i will ask you 3 sensible questions and would like 3 sensible answers
1 why do some preachers in mosques show people how to make suicide
vests?
2 how many vicars or priests have shown their floc how to do the same and if not why not?
3 why did beggum not turn her computer off when 1st being introduced to pro islamic state websites or whatever. most kids even at a younger age than 15 know right from wrong.

I have already asked you severable sensible questions further back LG and I am still waiting for sensible answers from you

Please...before demanding I answer yours at least make an attempt to answer mine and and the same time stop changing the subject to suit your obvious agenda.

I will come back in a couple of hours and take a look because I really would like to see how you justify your earlier comments

There's a good chap

You have gone very quite LG

Do you need more time?

Take as long as you want

nothing is black and white is it? i too was daft at 15 but luckily back the then was no internet to influence our way of thinking. that was a big factor in this case. But now she is a grown woman and what makes me wonder about her is the way she is portraying a Western image with her clothes. . then again she is holed up in this camp so what goes on in there? Another point I read about this morning is that she has been found guilty without having had a trial. i also think it's odd that her family have never been seen to do an interview and speak up for her. [maybe I missed it].

it's funny how many on here believe what they read online and even quote it as "true".... But on the other hand when a15 year old girl doe's the same then they says. "How could she do that!! Did she not know it was bull" Talk about hypocrisy........ kathpressey guilty by public opinion!! You may find that her family may dress religiously!! so dressed like that is ammunition for the Anti Muslim brigade ... So no press interviews .....

Just read a few red tops. check out some right wing websites grab yourself a flaming torch and don’t stop to ask questions

That’s all you need to do to become a certified WW human rights expert

The media is a powerful weapon,it always has been and always will be.

how do i know white girls are forced into sex?

would you have sex with 15+ men of a different colour if you are a teenager unless you were forced or given alchohol or drugs?

Thought her ISIS husband had been killed.... did the other two girls die also ?

I have no idea.LG ............maybe the same reason you know these things????

terrorist whore

shell difinetley will be blowing summat

the difference is SD the white girls are groomed and forced into sex

the terrorist whore went gladly half way around the world with two others to whore herself willingly

why are none whites so especially muslims so easily brainwashed?

they all backward and cant turn their computers off

wasnt her familys friend a chief constable or something? why did he not notice she was being groomed?

"wasnt her familys friend a chief constable or something? why did he not notice she was being groomed"

I particularly like this one LG.....it speaks volumes about your understanding of the subject, it really does......unfortunately!

BB: He is in jail in Syria. Don't know when he will be released but if he returns to Arnhem he faces 6 years in jail there.
There are some reports that Begum is continuing with this fight to return to GB (that's Great Britain, not Golden Bear) to earn money to pay her dowry.
They were married by an ISIS Judge and there is speculation that it's not valid, but who knows.
The other two did die.

MI5 are coming under immense pressure because of the Manchester bombing and they don't want her back but the lily livered Home Office civil serpents have open arms for her (but none of them will have her live with them).

Coming soon..... A banner....

^^^^^ another `expert` speaks

Yeah,
The self proclaimed expert who thinks a 15 year old female is a woman .
She was a child f f s .

Yep....and he claims he knew what he was doing at age 15 and on that basis so should she!

What a whopper

Spot on S D .
Stick to your guns .
You knacker them with your eloquence .

SD do you know grimshaw claimed he was best friends with corbyn and promised us a meeting with him can you ask him why is he such a LIAR

SD do you have children if you have have they been brainwashed to go to isis if not why not? my daughter was 15 once she never went and how many white 15 year olds went over? i wonder what bollocks youll spout now

egg yed, you asked , SD do you have a child, Ha Ha ,
SD/sledge, is a child
anyone who sticks up for mindless terrorists, illegal visitors with prison bound friends and then is a bigot, ,,,oh yes ,,, he don't like gammon faces,,,,,,they are beneath him,,
egg yed, you a gammon face,,,yes, a fat motorbike riding , council flat dweller who doesn't like veg and because he can't get tomatoes, he hates you, and me as well but, I understand, he's a child, so i ignore him, I suggest you do too,

“I wonder what bollocks youll spout now”

Hmmmmmm????? That’s a question I will try and answer for you LG

How does….. Nowhere near as much as you and Tom….sound?

Looks like star delta and grimshaw are a pair!

SD if you dont like my answers that does not make them wrong how many 15 yo have gone over since? or have isis shutdown their recruitment sites because of one silly girl? and you never answered if you had kids or not strange

SD is probably the reason some folk have stopped posting, he really is a pain in the backside, he is spoiling WW.

who me? ask SD where are his posts sticking up for the victims of asain sex gangs! he wont show you many

SD..when you have a minute read Andrew Drurys interview with her,she is well over the babies deaths and isn't at all fazed by seeing a decapitated head in a bin...and I don't need any slick comments neither..they would just go over my head...thank you.

Laughing boy .
Show me a post when i said Corbyn was my friend .
I am proud to say i campaigned with him.

Todger .
Please explain .
What pair are S D and myself .?
I reiterate for you knob heads .
A 15 year old is a child .

so you are saying you didnt promise a few of us a meeting with him?
its true what they say a LIAR has to have a good memory

Look back on my posts soft cock.
I INVITED you to let me know when you could travel to meet J C .He would have met you for a few minutes when he was in dipper land .
Not a word from you after that
So up yours knobwobbler .

a 15 year old along with 2 others organised a flight to syria took her pastport and money pretended to be going to school not a thing a immature 15 year old who does not know right from wrong would do stop trying to make excuses the knew exactly what they were dind was and is wrong

eggbeater Then she met an intelligence agent for Canada who smuggled the 15 year old into Syria..... So she was allowed on a plane as a minor first then she was taken over the border by someone who worked with MI5 and you still think the UK government hold no reasonability ???

I think that when she was 15 she gave the ISIS cause a lot of thought, and just like the males who turn to ISIS and other extremist groups, who become suicide bombers, she decided that joining that group was what she wanted, and she was intelligent enough to know what she was getting herself into, and I don't think that she regretted it, and she stuck with them until the bitter end, when ISIS were defeated and she and her fella were captured, and in the court hearings which have followed, part of the testimony has been given in closed sessions by the security services, and each court has upheld the decision of the Home Secretary to strip her of her British citizenship, so the security services must know things about her activities when she was with ISIS, which we do not know about, but each of those courts know, but they cannot tell the general public what those things are, because it might endanger undercover British agents in Syria and the surrounding countries.

The bottom line is that they believe that she is a security risk, which means that they think she is still a follower of ISIS, and if they let her back into this country, she could help, or even carry out a terrorist attack, I personally cannot see one ounce of remorse in her, and what is the difference between being groomed and being radicalised ?

Whatever she felt about this country and Islam and ISIS when she was 15, I believe that she still thinks the same way now.

Grimshaw, yoo doo have a way with words don't you

Some on here would have campaigned for Lord Haw Haw to be exonerated.

What's a "knobwobbler"?
Is it something they use in the mining industry?

“ ask SD where are his posts sticking up for the victims of asain sex gangs! he wont show you many“

On the subject of talking ‘bollox’ LG…… perhaps you could show everyone them

Take as much time as you need

TTS,I totally agree with your 11:37 post.

Grimshaw uses that word,and worse, to anyone he disagree's with.