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Covid-19 Omicron Variant

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

It seems that the governments of the world have been waiting for a while for a new variant of this Coronavirus to surface, and they have already had contingency plans in place, to put into operation, if a new variant appears.

In the UK they have put travel bans back in place, and the wearing of masks in retail environments, and on public transport, is to become 'mandatory' again.



Started: 27th Nov 2021 at 22:46

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

"According to data now available, this strain is a 'LIVE' SCI-FI/HORROR STORY.
This lineage is so HYPERMUTABLE that it's descendants have the ability to potentially wipe us out to near extinction.
I URGE WORLD LEADERS TO ADOPT STRONG MEASURES TO CONTAIN THIS STRAIN BEFORE ITS TOO LATE." ....... said a man in the pub.

Replied: 27th Nov 2021 at 23:01

Posted by: scorpion (866)

Did you see Boris speech earlier? Wants folk to wear masks on buses and in shops but it's ok to still sit in pubs without wearing one. I know you can't wear one because you'd be drinking/eating but still doesn't make sense. He doesn't want stop money going in till

Replied: 27th Nov 2021 at 23:43
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Posted by: First Mate (779)

Have a total lock down then.

Replied: 27th Nov 2021 at 23:59

Posted by: scorpion (866)

He doesn't want do that either First Mate.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 00:09

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Well he did say that Sajid Javid, the health minister, will be giving more information as regards the wearing of masks in the next day or two, so they might have something to say about the pubs then.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 00:12

Posted by: scorpion (866)

Boris doesn't like wearing a mask as he wasn't wearing one in that hospital a week or so ago. Bet he only wears one on camera for show

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 00:18

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1501) 

Sajid said this morning on Andrew Marr... Masks now compulsory on transport and retail.... Just been to B + Q Newtown..... Me and 3 others had masks.... Staff and every other person had none.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 12:44

Posted by: lectriclegs (4883)

Masks are only compulsory from Tuesday.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 12:48

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1501) 

Wish they'd make a decision.... Left hand doesn't know what reet's doing....

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 12:54

Posted by: lectriclegs (4883)

They have made a decision.

Masks will be mandatory from Tuesday.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 12:56

Posted by: First Mate (779)

I don't need to be told to wear a mask, it makes sense to do so. I've worm one since the very beginning. I wont be changing my habits now.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 13:14

Posted by: PeterP (9471)

When will they learn this new variant on the covid bug has been known about since Thursday yet NO Flights have been grounded from the countries effected, All flights except those already in the air should have been grounded straight away

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 13:35

Posted by: mortarmillbill (792)

Israel have the right idea.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 13:43

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4923) 

Can someone help me out here! IF a person arriving at Heathrow EG and is tested positive ,are they then detained ,or are they allowed to travel home then isolate for 10 days??? If that be the case then everyone they come into contact with could possibly get the infection right???? SO WHAT ARE THE RULE'S ,IF THERE ARE ANY????? GB

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 13:50

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Last week I had me booster jab, but there was a bit of hassle in that from the week before I had a text message from the NHS inviting me to be jabbed, but not at Robin Park, where I had me first two jabs, so I left it a few days hoping that my GP would send me an invite for the Robin Park Leisure Centre site, which is run by the Wigan Borough CCG (GP's)

After nearly a week, I decided to book the appointment via the NHS text, and it was ridiculous, the nearest vaccination centre was a pharmacy in Haydock,,,, Tonker Land
The list was basically vaccination centres in St Helens, which is also Tonker Land
Other places were in Horwich, Warrington, Whiston, Chorley Hospital, Leyland, and somewhere in Manchester, I have forgotten where.
So how did I keep being offered all of these different places ?
Well when you log on to the NHS booking system, it gives a list of five vaccination sites, the nearest site first, and by keep going back to the first screen and putting in different requirements, by ticking different boxes, you can get offered different places, and the standard wait was until about the second week in December, but on the system other times were popping up in different locations, which was obviously down to cancellations, and some of these were from as early as the next day, and the vaccination centre in Mesnes Street popped just once with an 8.00am appointment the day after, and it was gone in seconds, snapped up by a Wiganer.

I did all this messing around for about two hours, and I kept getting kicked off the system, but eventually I settled on an appointment at the Bolton Wanderers ground at Middlebrook in a couple of weeks time.

The day after this I got the invite text from me doctors, for the Robin Park site, so I cancelled my appointment with the NHS and when I went on to the Robin Park booking site, there were loads of appointments, I could have gone the day after, but I booked an appointment for Thursday, a two day wait.

The reason I have put all of this on, is that when yoo login to the NHS booking system, don't think that you have to book from that first list of vaccination centres, if there is not an appointment date or time you want, then keep going back and forth on the system, because cancelled appointments are popping up all the time, but if you choose one which is only the next day or in the next few days, make sure you book it straight away, because if you leave the page, it will be snapped up by someone else

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 14:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

PeterP

"All flights except those already in the air should have been grounded straight away"

I would certainly stop any visitors coming from those countries immediately, but you need a few days to get the British people home, but on their return, they would and will have to be put in a quarantine hotel for 10 days.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 14:15

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

2 days ago — UK Health Secretary Sajid Javid said from 12:00 GMT on Friday six countries would be added to the red list, with flights being temporarily banned.
All flights from South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana , Lesotho and Eswatini are being suspended.
From midday non-UK and Irish residents will be banned from entering England if they have been in the six countries in the past 10 days.

today -
Mr Javid said the government had acted "swiftly" and "in a proportionate way".
But a doctor who treated the variant said there had been unnecessary panic.
Dr Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association and the South African doctor who treated early cases of the Omicron variant told the BBC countries could be "panicking unnecessarily" and the symptoms she had seen were "extremely mild".
She said she had first encountered the variant in patients who had fatigue, aches and pains, but no cough or change in sense of smell or taste. "We haven't admitted anyone," she said.


Then this ..........

"Tests on passengers on two flights into Amsterdam found 61 cases of Covid, of which 13 were the Omicron variant."

......... which doesn't make any sense at all !

Meanwhile, "Labour has called for full implementation of Plan B and for improved sick pay to encourage self-isolation."


Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 14:52
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Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 16:14

Posted by: cindy (5946) 

I always wear a mask when I go to the pub & remove it when I sit at the table. I even wear a mask when I take the dog for walks in the street.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 16:14

Posted by: WN1 Standisher (456)

I'm with First Mate and Cindy, we've been wearing masks in all shops and in the pub when not seated. We get looked at like we've got 2 heads, but are we bothered ?. Now they are saying from Tuesday I can walk down to the pub, decide I need something from the shop across from it, put a mask on to go in the shop, then cross the road and walk into the pub, mask off. Bizarre !! I think masks will make a comeback in all indoor settings by next weekend.

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 17:21

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

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Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 18:33
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Posted by: PeterP (9471)

When I went on line to book the booster jab it was direction me to every where but Wigan/Leigh I phoned 01942-807780(thanks Nana) and booked for Leigh Leisure Centre

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 19:01

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

PeterP, Leigh Leisure Centre is 8.5 miles and 20 minutes drive from you.

Haydock is 4 miles from you, 9 minutes drive.
St.Helens rugby ground is 9 miles and 10minutes drive.
Are you daft?

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 20:45

Posted by: PeterP (9471)

Tonker it took 15 mins to get there and plenty of parking killed two birds with one stone did our shopping at Morrisons afterwards

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 21:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

When I booked my jab at Middlebrook, one of the reasons was that I intended to nip to Scan at the same time and buy a piece of computer

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 21:41

Posted by: Pewfall (275) 

I've been in Spain for the last week, No paranoia here, they do things sensible. I'll be sent back UK in a bit - not looking forward to it

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 22:47

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

The paranoia has just started.
I got a message off a mate over there , today. He says all bars, restaurants and public areas are only allowing holders of EU Covid Passes in. But you can still go shopping without one, as long as you wear a mask. He says, "f*** 'em! I'll just stop in! If nobody goes out, the bars and restaurants can't earn money and won't pay their taxes. That'll upset the local economies, serves 'em right!"
Apparently, there's only one of the 'group of lads' managed to get one of the passes, as he's the only one who's legally there!

PS: you might have to quarantine when you get back, and have a pcr test on day 2!

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 23:53
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Posted by: First Mate (779)

will you be travelling by hot air balloon

Replied: 28th Nov 2021 at 23:53

Posted by: peter israel (1285) 

I sit here in Israel watching your ministers talk on the bbc news and you lot in the uk are fed so much bull shi@ about the vaccine!!! And now it's catching the government up ! The only reason your had to wait 6 months for the booster jab is that the uk gov could not get it faster in to the UK populations arms !!! the ideal time is 4 months by 6 months immunity is waning so there is NO medical reason why NOT to get it earlier and also IT'S 3 weeks between japs that is what the manufacturers recommendations..... They have been playing catch up all the way through this pandemic ... it's like they have been driving the car on red and trying to see how far they can get in the car instead of filling the tank up.....

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 09:12

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Hang on Peter Israel, it is not fair to compare the procurement of vaccine. i.e.

UK v Israel

Population of UK, 68 million

Population of Israel, 9 million

That is a big difference in procurement numbers, and a lot of vaccine for the UK government to find.

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 09:56

Posted by: gaffer (7155) 

Decisions as to who gets a jab and when are NOT taken by government ministers. The authority is with the independent body. The Joint Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisation.

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 10:30

Posted by: peter israel (1285) 

Gaffer
Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisation !!! what i just have read!! They said "Had to make a assumed that there were constraints due to the amount of vaccine available". and who's fault is that???








Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 11:08

Posted by: peter israel (1285) 

That is a big difference in procurement numbers, and a lot of vaccine for the UK government to find. And they have time to catch up by now !


Tommy Two Stroke I understand were your coming from but we had over here 24hours 7 days a week you could get an appointment at 3am on a Saturday And every tom' dick' and harry' was putting jabs in arms...

When it was my time 50-60 for the booster i got an appointment in 6 hours!!! What i am trying to say is this is been going on now for 2 years and no one should have to wait by now....

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 11:24

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Catch-up? My arse!

The UK government have given away ALL their 'procured' 20 million Janssen vaccines and 20 million, at least HALF, of their Astra Zeneca supply. They've given it to a company,formed by several others, which collects (?) vaccines etc., for Third World Countries.

They're total frauds, the governments. Not just ours. ALL of them! And folk will believe owt they're told.











Especially Wiganers! And pseudo Wiganers moreso!!

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 17:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Peter Israel

Today's 'update' was given by the scientists, with not a politician in sight, and it was explained about how, why and when to be given the booster shot.

Update

Replied: 29th Nov 2021 at 17:48
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Posted by: gasmon (95)

My wife purchased a world map and then gave me a dart and said, “Throw this and wherever it lands—that’s where I’m taking you when this pandemic ends.” Turns out, we’re spending two weeks behind the fridge.

Replied: 30th Nov 2021 at 15:43

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4923) 

I have found out today that this dishonest lying government have know that this new varient goes back to OCTOBER THIS YEAR and they only tell us now . WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES THE LOT NEED TO BE PUT UP AGAINST A WALL AND SHOT !!! I WOULD WILLINGLY DO THE JOB FOR FREE!!! GB

Replied: 30th Nov 2021 at 16:05

Posted by: First Mate (779)

GB I'd be interested to know where you got this information from. Thanks

Replied: 30th Nov 2021 at 16:08

Posted by: peter israel (1285) 

GOLDEN BEAR ITS a world wide conspiracy TTS you still think the same now after all that has changed in the last 72 hours???? you still think The gov doe's not control the scientists!!!! Well You don't get into the big boys club unless you play ball..... funding' job opportunity' committee placements etc

Replied: 1st Dec 2021 at 09:06
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Posted by: gasmon (95)

I'm triple jabbed, 2 AZ & a Pfizer the other week. I have no problem with wearing a mask, distancing, washing hands,
BUT
I'ts getting very silly now, all around the world for A VARIANT that is yet to be proved dangerous. We will see in a few weeks.

Future variants (They will never end, like the common cold) will evolve.
I fear for our freedoms in future, mandatory jabs etc. are being advocated today by the EU leader in Brussels.
Germany & Austria also (They have form).

IF jabs become mandatory then I will point blank refuse any more.
Where we all go from there is uncharted territory. Or perhaps Hitler and Orwell prophesied be our destiny.

SOMETHING is VERY WRONG worldwide. Join the dots, follow the money.

We can't have another year like the last two.

Replied: 1st Dec 2021 at 22:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Peter Israel
Gasmon

All due respect too yoo both, but, Poppycock !!!!

All they have done is to recommend bringing forward the third dose, the booster, and I have had the two Oxford, AstraZeneca jabs, and the third jab was the Pfizer-BioNTech.

As explained by the scientists in the briefing, after the third dose, the waning immune response is boosted to over 90% which will provide protection from the variants, and there seems to have been a lethargic response from the public in having the third dose, the booster, maybe the government response to this new variant, which incidently seems to be a 'coordinated' worldwide response, is to give the people a collective kick up the arse to get that booster jab done

Replied: 1st Dec 2021 at 22:39

Posted by: gasmon (95)

I've had my booster jab and will wait & see how this Omicron develops.

Three jabs + Flu jab in less than one year is enough for me. I will take a top up jab (with my flue jab) at the beginning of next winter. I will have serious doubts regards taking another, say two covid jabs next year.

News today is that 114million jabs are now on order for next two years, they already stock many millions. THAT is my concern. If we don't really need them give them to Africa etc.

Will this malarkey EVER end ?
Will we EVER get back to 2019 ?

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 09:57

Posted by: scorpion (866)

TTS. Then there will be another variant in the spring and the government will be telling folk to get their fourth jab. People may go along with it a bit more if it was just one jab a year like the flu one.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 10:06

Posted by: ena malcup (1452) 

I am surprised at all the news concerning the army becoming involved.

When I had my first jab, almost a year ago, the injection was performed by a military medic. This, I know because also he is a close personal friend, albeit not seen in a long time. (active service)

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 16:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

If you watched the briefing, and the link is still there above, they explain that the Covid-19 vaccines being used, are the same vaccine as what was originally developed for Covid-19, when it was first found, and it is known as the Wuhan virus, and viruses mutate all the time, but if a mutation alters the virus enough, then it might affect the way that the original vaccine works, making it less effective, then it becomes a variant of concern, and so far there have been four variants of concern, beta, gamma, delta and omicron, so the variants of the virus, then have a slight mismatch to the original vaccine, but it was found that even with these mismatches, the vaccine still worked against the first three variants, to the extent that the vaccine did not require to be 'tweaked' to match the variants, but with this new variant 'omicron', it is not yet known if the vaccine will be any less effective against this new variant.

When the vaccine is beginning to be less effective against the variants, then the scientists will alter (tweak) the vaccine to match it to the emerging 'dominant' variants, this happens with floo every year, every year the flu vaccine, vaccinates against the three strains of floo, which the scientists think will be the most prevalent during the following winter flu season, and sometimes they get it wrong.

So they might alter the Covid vaccine, or they might not, it will depend on the science of the thing, but the booster shot everyone is getting at present, is the same vaccine, which there as been from the start, it is just boosting your immune system, and I think the scientists will just have to wait and see what happens with the virus, it might burn it's self out, because it cannot find enough 'hosts' to sustain it, because of immunisation, or it might not.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 17:10

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

"When the vaccine is beginning to be less effective against the variants, then the scientists will alter (tweak) the vaccine to match it to the emerging 'dominant' variants", he said ^^^^

Well, yes. Just like they did with the first lot of vaccines, last year. Anyroadup, you're likeabunch of smackheads,gagging for your 'fix'!

Keep having their 'stuff' pumped into you, and don't forget what I said last year? "Three Score and Ten"!

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 20:11

Posted by: First Mate (779)

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"When the vaccine is beginning to be less effective against the variants, then the scientists will alter (tweak) the vaccine to match it to the emerging 'dominant' variants", he said ^^^^

Well, yes. Just like they did with the first lot of vaccines, last year. Anyroadup, you're likeabunch of smackheads,gagging for your 'fix'!

Keep having their 'stuff' pumped into you, and don't forget what I said last year? "Three Score and Ten"!

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 20:11

God has spoken

Replied: 2nd Dec 2021 at 23:25

Posted by: sonlyme (3174)

I read this morning that WHO said there has not been one death anywhere in the world from the omicron virus but remain vigilant.

Replied: 4th Dec 2021 at 16:49

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

This Omicron scare, could be a storm in a tea cup

Replied: 4th Dec 2021 at 16:57

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Roger Daltrey, this morning, denied all knowledge of it, saying, "I never said anything of the sort".
Pete Townsend said, "No comment"!
Neither Keith Moon and John Entwistle could be contacted!

Replied: 4th Dec 2021 at 19:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Well at the beginning of the last week in November, everything was fine, all Covid restrictions had been lifted months ago, and everyone was looking forward to Crimbo, and the end of the year p*ss up, and then 'BANG' just like that the thing was back, they announced some restrictions, and they said that they would see how it went, but there might have to be a Plan B, and then yesterday they said it was not going well, and Plan B was being put into operation.

So does that mean with the massive increase in infections from Omicron, will the next announcement be that the virus infections are rising exponentially, out of control, which will mean that it is only a matter of time, before we are back in full lockdown, in January, or maybe before January.

Back to square one in less than three weeks, it is hard to grasp how quickly that this has happened

Replied: 9th Dec 2021 at 22:25

Posted by: ena malcup (1452) 

Yes, van Tam has already said increase is exponential. (Doubling every couple of days)

Still unknown is how ill this will make people.

Replied: 9th Dec 2021 at 22:37

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

It is known! The doctor who discovered it says it's very mild!

"South African doctor who flagged Omicron says it causes mild disease, few hospital admissions"

"Covid symptoms linked to the new omicron variant have been described as "extremely mild"

"Omicron symptoms mild with or without vaccination" - 14 hours ago

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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

So after the criticism which the government got for taking action too late last year, this time are they moving too fast, Omicron might be a mild form of the virus, and that can happen with new variants, the new variant can usurp the old variant, it becomes the dominant variant, but the new variant might less lethal to humans.

Replied: 9th Dec 2021 at 22:51

Posted by: ena malcup (1452) 

Very mild in the much younger population of S Africa.
Unknown in the older population here.

Replied: 9th Dec 2021 at 22:52

Posted by: mygriffiths (1205)

I think we are down to our last plan.
We can't afford lockdown and how many would comply if we
could?
Vaccines either through insufficient uptake or inefficacy are insufficient.
Which leaves-Infection and hopefully survival to allow immunity to build up.This will lead to further disagreements
will vaccines aid the survival rate?
will restrictions keep infection rates at manageable levels?
According to Tonker I am on borrowed time anyway.Imagine the pension money and care home savings if the older generation do not survive this winter even.

Replied: 9th Dec 2021 at 23:31

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4923) 

OMICRON ;; LET ME GET THIS RIGHT YOU HAVE TO WORK FROM HOME TO HELP RID US FROM MICRON ,BUT YOU CAN GOT TO THE WORKS CHRIMBO PARTY !!! PLEASE TELL ME WHEN ALL THESE LOT ESCAPED FROM THE NUTTY HOUSE ?????????MIND /BOGGLES /GB

Replied: 10th Dec 2021 at 14:32

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Golden Bear

When did yoo escape from the Nutty House

Replied: 10th Dec 2021 at 18:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

It's official !!!

Government is starting to poo itself, over Omicron LINK COBRA meeting called

Lockdown in January

Replied: 10th Dec 2021 at 18:09

Posted by: ena malcup (1452) 

(with apologies to Mel Brooks.)

Don't be stupid, be a smarty
shirk the job and throw a party!

Replied: 10th Dec 2021 at 22:17

Posted by: AngelWood (764)

Something will get us all one day, no point worrying about it.

Replied: 10th Dec 2021 at 23:20

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

After months of getting over last Christmas's Covid-19 surge, with the long lockdown starting in January, which was only slowly lifted over a nine month period, it is scary how quickly that everything has unravelled, despite all the assurances given last year, that if you had the two doses of the vaccine, then that would be it, and you would be inoculated, this new variant has just swept all that aside

It would appear that we are screwed

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 12:21

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

It is now just a repeat of last Christmas LINK

Well at least the conspiracy theorists will have a good Christmas, because this year Christmas has come early for them, because they can really get their teeth into this one No Crimbo

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 13:37

Posted by: Stardelta (9999)


"It is known! The doctor who discovered it says it's very mild!

"South African doctor who flagged Omicron says it causes mild disease, few hospital admissions"

"Covid symptoms linked to the new omicron variant have been described as "extremely mild"

Strange how you believe comments published in the media regarding covid...........but then say we shouldn't believe comments published in the media regarding covid

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 15:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

The indications as to how nasty it will become, will be coming from where the variant originated in South Africa, what is the data showing from there now ?

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 15:51

Posted by: gaffer (7155) 

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 16:35

Posted by: Stardelta (9999)

The problem here TTS is that not every government believes every other government. Take Turkey for instance, they were telling fibs about the numbers all last year to let tourists in and everyone apart from us fell for it. Furthermore other countries demographics are far different from ours and they don’t all have an NHS of their own. It is difficult to say exactly what will happen in our country based on what we are told is happening in another. No doubt SA are in for a rough ride but we need to go off what our government say.

Replied: 11th Dec 2021 at 16:57
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

This Covid-19, Omicron variant, is spreading across our planet like wildfire, flights are being cancelled, cruise ships are being refused entry to ports, because they are infected, two years on nearly from the first outbreak, and in less than a month, we are almost back to square one, the end of the world is nigh

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 14:23

Posted by: ena malcup (1452) 

One of my neighbours is a god botherer.

He delights in telling all that it is a punishment from god for mankind's sins, and that we aint seen nothing yet!

However, he can't resist occasionally slipping into blaming it all on 5G masts!

I have tried asking him if he thinks that 5G is one of those mysterious ways in which god works, but oddly enough he seems to acknowledge it is his back-up explanation. A sort of plan B for when plan A is making no progress!

Folk can be extremely odd!

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 14:39

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Oh folk can definitely be very odd

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 15:02

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

There’s a few ‘odd-balls’ on here !

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 15:46

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

No

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 16:22

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Ooooooooh, Yes there is!

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 19:31

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

I can’t believe that millions upon millions are being hoodwinked to take the booster and double jabbers are still getting COVID, you can still get COVID and still pass it on so what’s the point?
We are being told that the hospital’s can’t cope, what a load of tosh.

Replied: 27th Dec 2021 at 22:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Jeeze

So what is it all about then ?

Replied: 28th Dec 2021 at 13:42

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

I haven’t figured it out yet TTS but you can bet there’s money involved

Replied: 28th Dec 2021 at 19:44

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Wizzerwin, those who have the vaccine can still catch it and can still pass it on. BUT - they won’t have it as bad as they would without the vaccine.
They might pass it on but, if they pass it on to a vaccinated person, that person won’t have it as bad.
If they pass it on to an unvaccinated person, that person has a chance of being quite ill with it. But not all unvaccinated people will be ill with it. Some won’t even know they’ve got it.

Replied: 28th Dec 2021 at 20:26

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

Tonker your right but there’s going to be loads of variants over the years and the vaccines are not long term tested.
Once you’ve had the vaccine and something goes wrong with you, you have no claim.
People get serious problems after they’ve been jabbed and it’s just swept under the rug.

Replied: 28th Dec 2021 at 22:45

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

There’s probably been loads of variants already, but they’ve not been publicised.
I’ve said before, they’re making viruses constantly, for various purposes. The only thing what kills a virus is a virus.

Replied: 28th Dec 2021 at 23:35

Posted by: PeterP (9471)

The common cold has been around for hundreds of years yet there is no known cure. We can ease the cold with pills and powders but it will still run its course. Are there so many variants of a cold no one can pin it down to one thing. It is getting like this with the covid virus there are that many variants how many jabs will help hold it back The boffins are already saying we may need another booster jab making four plus there is a miracle pill ready to be used .Some sceptics are worried about the knock on effect of all these drugs in our system in the future No wonder there are people who have still not had their 1ST JAB.

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 08:44

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

Peter have you noticed that people don’t get flu since Covid came along or should I say it isn’t publicised.
Let’s see what happens next year when nurses retire and the tens of thousands of nurses who haven’t had the vaccine get sacked.
Tonker I disagree with you your own immune system kills the virus but if your body isn’t strong enough then that’s when the problems occur

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 10:47

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Wizzerwin, no, your immune system doesn’t kill viruses. It stops you from being affected by any virus you might contract. That’s why some infected people don’t know they are infected but still infect others. Viruses are produced to kill viruses. Now, it has been suggested that the ‘omicron’ has been developed to kill off the ‘delta’. Who knows what they’re injecting into you?

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 11:12

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

Tonker if that’s true what you say the all the viruses that we’ve ever contracted are still alive in our body’s, your a clever man Tonker “Now, it has been suggested that the ‘omicron’ has been developed to kill off the ‘delta’. That’s what a news reporter would say ha ha

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 11:56

Posted by: First Mate (779)

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 12:50

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Wizzerwin, no, viruses die off on their own in time. As anybody who listened at school will tell you.

Thanks, Firstmate, for that honorary doctorate, I’ve got a wall-full of them in my office.
However, it should be for common sense rather than virology.

R.A.I.D. - (read and inwardly digest!)

Replied: 29th Dec 2021 at 13:15

Posted by: tony j (775) 

first mate, like the name of the college

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 11:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Tonker and Wizzerwin, should be on that Sage & Onion committee, and they should be giving those briefings with Boris from number 10, and Boris should introduce Tonker ,saying "Tonker will do the slides now"

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 11:13

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4923) 

My Grandson wanted to do a PCR test today has he thinks he might have co-vid , When his mum rang the relevant number's ,she was told the nearest test centre for him was in DEESIDE they actually live in Standish. THE DISTANCE FROM WIGAN TO DEESIDE IS 42.8 MILES PLUS 1 HOURS DRIVE ,SO THAT IS 85.5 MILES 2 HOURS BY CAR AND GOD KNOWS HOW LONG IT WOULD BE TO HAVE THE TEST . WHAT A COMPLETE AND UTTER JOKE ,AND THIS GOV TELLS US TO GET THE TEST'S AND JAB'S ,
SO my g/son will just sit it out at home in isolation .....THANKS BORIS FOR
SWEET F.A.
GB

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 13:10

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

GB, ring 119 and request a test.
My middle lad has caught it, at work. His boss has rung him and told him that 4, out of 6, employees are positive with it and asked him for a pcr result, for the record.
He rang yesterday afternoon for it, it came half an hour ago and I’m going now to post it!

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 13:31

Posted by: momac (12042) 

GB..I wonder if your nearest care home will provide you with one..it's worth a call.

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 13:38

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

He could pretend to be a lorry driver and go to Charnock Richard services for a test. We’d been going to Burtonwood services for ours.
There’s a couple of test sites within 5 miles of Wigan.

Replied: 30th Dec 2021 at 13:46

Posted by: melodyman (116)

Where are these test sites within 5 miles of Wigan and can a person be tested there for the now regulated 2-day PCR test?

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 16:30

Posted by: Islander (34)

re ena;s post

If wiganworld allow such deeply offensive name calling of good faithful Christians then I am AWAY, as I am a good faithful Christian...

Think I am in the wrong place as the Wigan I knew was respectful

Signing off; happy for private emails . And i am very sad.

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 16:44

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Melodyman, when you refer to …..

“the now regulated 2-day PCR test”

…… do you mean for travel? as you are expected to pay for that.
There are places to get that test right in Wigan as well as within 5 miles.

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 18:02

Posted by: melodyman (116)

Travel into the UK from EU. The costs are all over the place, some 15 quid, some over 100 quid.

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 18:18
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Posted by: tonker (25469) 

My wife was getting the day 2 pcr for £20 at Eurofins test site, Birchwood. I don’t know if they are still operating though.
Same company operated at GoBen travel, Ashton in Makerfield.
Ashton old clinic do them, so do Boots, but they’re dear.
It’s better to do postal.

I get mine free, with my exemption!

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 19:16

Posted by: melodyman (116)

Thanks! Tonker.
Can't seem to find anything cheaper than 50 quid.

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 19:21

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

De nada!

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 19:24

Posted by: melodyman (116)

Your exemption?

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 19:30

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

Birchwood, but it’s gone up to £39.90!

I can’t get the link to work ……
But it’s ‘Eurofins’, which leads to ‘trust 1’.

My exemption (for the millionth time!) is …….

‘Bespoke Testing for Frequent Overseas Workers’.

If we drive over (ferry or tunnel) in a truck or large van, we get it free from Burtonwood services on the way out. Day 2 and 8 is free as above (btfow) whether I’m driving or not.

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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Tha yall should be stoppin a' Wom, instead of spreading your germs around the world.

Replied: 2nd Jan 2022 at 22:33

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

I was in Ada today, and I was surprised to see just how many folk were not wearing masks, and they were of all age groups too.

I think that folk are sick of the whole covid thing, and the contradictory crap coming out about it all the time.

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 14:30

Posted by: davey (262)

If you think a mask will protect you from covid you are probably the same type that think your underpants will protect you from a fart . . .

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 16:42

Posted by: First Mate (779)

@ davey

You cant buy N98 or FFP3 underpants.

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 17:10
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

I think that is a brilliant comparison

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 18:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

It seems that this Omicron thing, has just been a 'flash in the pan' so to speak, it has disappeared overnight, or over a few nights, the news now is about Boris having a party.

Is this finally an end to the pandemic ?

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 22:18

Posted by: broady (18283) 

Not all the news is about Boris!!! What about Andy Pandy?

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 22:41

Posted by: Owd Codger (953)

At the beginnning of December, I said to my Wife, don't be surprised if the Government and their Scientific/Medical advisors will say that the variant is far worse than predicted, will need to introduce further restrictions over the Christmas period and then in mid/late January say that the variant is easing down.



Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 20:41

Posted by: Platty (1478)

Owd Codger: what did your wife say?
Broady: Andy Pandy - presume you mean the lockdown king Burnham. All the public sector support lockdown forever, while the supermarket shelves continus to be stacked, petrol stations manned, deliveries maintained.....

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 20:50

Posted by: broady (18283) 

Platty, No I meant the guy previously known as Prince Andrew. ????????????

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 21:11

Posted by: Platty (1478)

Broady: ha ha, the ex-gentleman formerly known as His Royal Highness.
Dunno if he's made any observations on the corona flu.

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 21:21

Posted by: First Mate (779)

Broady Andrew was born a Prince and still is a prince.

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 21:21

Posted by: Owd Codger (953)

Are we expected to believe that no other politicians in the Labour, Liberal Democrats, Green, SNP, PC and even the CP and SWP parties etc did not do the same as some in the Conservative Party have done during the last two years or so?

All tarred and feathered with the same brush when it comes to getting an avantage over we the general public.

Replied: 17th Jan 2022 at 07:56

Posted by: ashtonman01 (198)

Omicron, mix the words up and you get Moronic; they are taking the p***. Do people still believe this rubbish?. Why are people on here still watching the mainstream news?. Is anyone not aware that there are millions of people not falling for this Covid crap? there are protests taking place all over the world, including the UK, where people of all walks of life are standing shoulder to shoulder because they know all of these Covid restrictions, masks, vaccines etc is not about protecting us from a virus but is an excuse to control us, I mean how bloody obvious can this get? yet everyone (mostly the old) is still walking about face masks and taking an experimental vaccine (and yes it is experimental as it's never been thorough tested).

The PCR test doesn't test for a virus as the late Kary Mullis who invented the PCR test said so himself. And for forcing people in care jobs and hospitals to take the jab or else lose their job, well, that's against human rights.

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 15:02

Posted by: gaffer (7155) 

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 17:49

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

ashtonman thank heavens we have someone who can see through all this rubbish.
I know four people who have COVID and in their words”it’s no different than flu”

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 18:54

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

He didn’t invent it either!

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 18:55

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

If you really want to educate yourself about Covid then listen to Robert Malone M.D he has been banned from some platforms to stop him from informing us about the truth.
Please don’t accept what I say, just search the internet for him and use your own judgment, remember it’s you and your families that are in the firing line.
If you have TikTok then watch the link below
Edit can someone put this link on please

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLd1pEeQ/

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 19:38
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Posted by: gaffer (7155) 

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Posted by: gaffer (7155) 

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 20:01

Posted by: broady (18283) 

I am sure if you scour the Internet closely you will find someone that says smoking is good for you, drinking is good for you etc.

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 20:09

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

From gaffer’s link. - “ scientific breakthroughs don't always boast a sole "inventor." Instead, they come about through the work of many. “

Exactly!

Just like the mRNA vaccine, the pcr testing and, wait for it…… the replacement hip joint!

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 20:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10091)

Ashton Mon & Wizzywin

What happens if the next variant of Covd-19 is a much deadlier to humans variant, than what this Omicron variant is, what are you going to say then, if the present vaccines have not been upgraded to these newer variants, and vaccinated folk start becoming badly infected, and the NHS becomes overwhelmed, with dead and dying people ?

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 20:17

Posted by: tonker (25469) 

TTS, COVID 19 is a ‘variant’ of sars cov 2, which is a ‘variant’ of sars cov 1, along with countless numbers of ‘variants’ of coronavirus.

“We must learn to live with it”, says the ‘bright sparks’ who work in government.
Oh, aye? Just like we’ve been ‘living with it’ for years?

A set of tossers, they are, them men!

Deadliest disease ever? So, you report a positive pcr test and what do you get? An e-Mail that says “self isolate for ten days. If you feel unwell, take paracetamol. If you want, after five days, you can pay for another pcr test (called a ‘release test’) to cut short your self-isolation”!

Deadliest disease ever, my arse!

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 20:35

Posted by: wizzerwin (1577)

Tonks

Replied: 20th Jan 2022 at 21:58

 

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