swimming idiots

Started by: PeterP (8670)

Drove through Appley Bridge today and 2 police officers keeping about 50-60 teenagers away from the quarry how many more need to drown before the message gets across.

Started: 13th Jun 2021 at 14:23

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

Personally, I don't see why there should be any police officers on duty there.
There's loads of waters people can swim in, if they want to. Anybody who can't swim won't jump in.

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 15:03

Posted by: jo anne (33635) 

Tonker, it’s not just about whether you can swim or not.

#DoingitforDylan is a water safety campaign, started by Rebecca Ramsay, after her 13 year old son tragically died whilst swimming in open water on 3rd July, 2011.

Facebook / @DoingitforDylan

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 15:21
Last edited by jo anne: 13th Jun 2021 at 15:29:49

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

Joanne, I'm no stranger to water . Neither am I stupid.
Is the answer - "stay in", "do nothing"?

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 16:15

Posted by: jo anne (33635) 

I don’t take you as stupid, Tonker, and no, the answer isn’t to stay in and do nothing. I’d say go out and have fun but calculate your risks.

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 16:29

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

Or ...... have the police calculate your risks for you?

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 16:43

Posted by: lectriclegs (4159)

And keep you off private property

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 16:47

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

Just that particular 'private property'?

Look at these idiots, all stood dangerously close to the dirty, polluted water. Some of them are even Swimming in it!

Send for the bobbies, quick!

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 17:24
Last edited by tonker: 13th Jun 2021 at 17:25:23

Posted by: lectriclegs (4159)


Does it have a fence round it?

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 17:41

Posted by: jo anne (33635) 

Tonker, the Blackpool coast, for example, has designated bathing waters which are monitored by the Environment Agency during the bathing season, as well as a number of measures to help control the risk, including beach lifeguards:

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 17:59

Posted by: tonker (23787) 

"Officers said the travellers were coming from as far away as Southport and Merseyside."?


Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 19:42

Posted by: tomplum (7406) 

I' my lifetime, I've swam in canals,rivers, reservoirs ,lakes ponds and the sea, Many seas in fact, Its part of growing up, I 've lived in a time when, If someone mopped a floor, we all had the common sense to walk round it or tread careful, now , before they mop a floor they have to put out cones, put on hard hats, high viz vests and wear gloves, oh and if they use any form of bleach, they put masks on too,
welcome to , big brother world, eat burgers, drink coke and wear ID badges round your neck,

Replied: 13th Jun 2021 at 22:19

Posted by: basil brush (16657)

These idiots don't realise is that if anything does happen it won't just affect their family.

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 09:09

Posted by: PeterP (8670)

Where are these idiots parentsOr is it out of site out of mind till the fateful knock on the door

Replied: 14th Jun 2021 at 09:58

Posted by: kathpressey (5308) 

The trouble is the young think they are invincible and so you will never stop them taking silly risks. there is also a growing trend for wild swimming by people of all ages. I was talking to a group of women who had just come out of the sea and asked about how cold it was. They had decided to have shorter swims because a young man had died the day before. one woman was puffing away on her inhaler so I don't think it did her any good

Replied: 16th Jun 2021 at 08:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7444)

Apparently, in very warm weather only the very top of the water in places like a flooded quarry are actually warm, the top couple of feet or so, and then going down the temperature of the water is very cold, and this cold causes cramp in a nobhead swimmer, and that stops their muscles working, and they drown.

Replied: 16th Jun 2021 at 09:26

Posted by: jathbee (10882)

People have been using water as a play area, the world over from way back in time.
There are lots of information and warning signs about the dangers of it. It's about all you can do to prevent drownings. Kids will always be attracted to the pleasures of a bit of fun with their friends. It's tragic when a child, or adult loses their life but it will never stop the pastime.
Maybe a good idea to have trained life guards at the most popular spots instead of a police presence.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 07:21

Posted by: kathpressey (5308) 

But putting a lifeguard there is saying it's a safe place to swim. A young man drowned in a river in Ivybridge [Devon], this week. He jumped in to help his stepdaughter who was in trouble but he was a non swimmer and drowned.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 08:32

Posted by: basil brush (16657)

They don't give a monkey's about the police so there not going to take any notice of a lifeguard.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 10:23

Posted by: jathbee (10882)

Really. And you know that for certain, do you.
Such negativity. So let them drown,is what you are saying. Because they will carry on doing what they are doing.
Lifeguards are better equipped in a water emergency than untrained police officers.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 12:16

Posted by: jathbee (10882)

We know it isn't a safe place to swim but what's the alternative when they are going to do it anyway.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 12:18

Posted by: admin (941)

jathbee. and who is going to pay for all the lifeguards needed to supervise every reservoir, flooded quarry, etc. 24/7? Some of these open water spaces are highly dangerous with underwater objects that can't be seen from the surface.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 14:22

Posted by: mortarmillbill (689)

As youngsters we regularly swam in places like the Lime ponds, canal and Norley Quarry.

Very few of us could afford to go to Wigan baths and spent hours swimming when the weather was good.

I'm an idiot - guilty as charged.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 16:33

Posted by: PeterP (8670)

Every week we read about some one drowning in some form of water

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 19:07

Posted by: jathbee (10882)

Admin. I never suggested that every body of water should be supervised.
Maybe the most popular and dangerous ones.
I would think the cost would be far less than that of policing them.
It was of course just a suggestion that might save a few lives.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 20:19

Posted by: PeterP (8670)

Jathbee some of these idiots have no respect for the police so would just tell security/ lifeguards were to go

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 21:03

Posted by: admin (941)

When I was about 5 we lived in Spring street, off Darlington street and my parents were always warning me to stay away from the canal. I can remember on one occasion I went with a couple of my pals to play on a dump( I think they were old army vehicles??) It was on the side of the canal, opposite to where I lived, near Britannia Bridge. The area is now a steel stockists. It must have been summer as it was in the evening and it was still light. It appears all the street was out looking for us.. My dad found us and although I can't remember what punishment I got. I never went near the canal again. But then, like every other kid. if anyone in authority, be it your parents, school teachers, or the police told you not to do anything you did as you were told. As I am writing this I can remember it as though it was last week. and I can see my dad's face now when he found us.

Replied: 17th Jun 2021 at 22:36

Posted by: jathbee (10882)

You are quite right. Usually, back then, kids did as they were told, or suffer the consequences.
But not always. My husband lived in Spring View, as a child. Him and his friends where playing around the railway, which they had been told not too.
One of his friends lost his foot by a shunnting train. He also swam in the canal, which he had been told not too.
Maybe he was just a naughty boy.

Replied: 18th Jun 2021 at 07:20

Posted by: kathpressey (5308) 

jathbee. the point of the lifeguards is to maintain safety in areas that they advise are safe to swim. i.e between the flags on the beach. you can't expect anyone to supervise what is known to be a dangerous quarry full of god knows what hidden hazards. You won't stop this behaviour and maybe one of the attractions to young people is the rebellion against advise. it's a bit daring and macho and that's why they don't go to the local swimming pool which is clean and safe

Replied: 18th Jun 2021 at 08:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7444)

Why don't they put some large Pike in there, so that they can nibble on those kids toes, and put up a warning sign.

Jump in and find out

Replied: 18th Jun 2021 at 09:31
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 18th Jun 2021 at 09:31:58

Posted by: nanajacqui (3722) 

Police have warned teenagers not to swim in a flooded quarry near Standish after a photo emerged of people queuing up to jump into the water.
With another sunny weekend ahead, police have asked teenagers to stay away from the quarry at Appley Bridge - where two young men have died since 1999.
They are appealing to parents to intervene.
Officers took the photo last weekend and do not want it repeated.
They police issued this warning…
“Do you know where your child was this weekend?
“This weekend we saw hundreds of young people putting their lives at risk – as shown by this photo we took. We know the nice weather makes it appealing to cool down in the quarry but are they aware of the dangers?
“There is industrial piping and other equipment hidden beneath the water, the temperature change of jumping into cold water when your body is hot initiates a gasp response which can cause you to drown within seconds of entering the water, plus drinking alcohol (as some of these young people were) not only dehydrates you but causes your reactions to be delayed.
“We know young people want to enjoy themselves, but we are appealing to parents because we care. We don’t want to be the officers calling at your address to pass on the awful news that something terrible has happened to your child.”

Replied: 18th Jun 2021 at 09:48


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