Sumat Wrong Here

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (6947)

According to the WEP the old Gorners Garage on Wigan Road Ashton in Makerfield, as been put in a planning application for an Aldi Supermarket.

That cawn't be right, not so close to the one down the road on Princess Road.

Lidl maybe, but not an Aldi


Started: 8th Jan 2021 at 20:56

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

I would say, that's good news for the people of Bryn, cheap food and other goods on the doorstep,

Replied: 8th Jan 2021 at 21:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6947)

I agree Tom

Replied: 8th Jan 2021 at 21:55

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

The cross roads (Wigan-Old-Nicol Rds) as over the years had many bad accidents. Could not even imagine were entrance/exit for a supermarket could be placed

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 08:41

Posted by: wnwanderer (22)

It'll be similar to the Aldi and Lidl in Standish.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 12:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6947)

Avondale Street junction ?

That is a T-Junction though, a busy one, but I agree that junction with Nicol Road in Ashton is dodgy at the best of times, they need a supermarket more in Bryn, and I thought that the housing development on Rose Hill was going to have provision for a supermarket, and a road through to Bryn Road, I think that would be a better location for a supermarket

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 12:23

Posted by: wnwanderer (22)

The Aldi is more or less on the cross roads.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 12:29

Posted by: bentlegs (4619)

I live in Bryn & i can,t think of anywhere shoppers could park, I dont know the floor area of Gorners Garage but for a supermarket it isn,t very big, You could just about swing a cat round.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 13:40

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3515) 

I agree with you (tomplum) i have only one drawback and that its more money going into GERMAN BANKS /PROFITS sorry for being a downer just can't stand krauts .

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 13:51

Posted by: tonker (23409) 

Bentlegs, it goes round the back of what used to be the pub. The transport wagons used to back in that way.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 13:54

Posted by: basil brush (16404)

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 14:27

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

its like an iceberg, It does't look all that big but, there's more to it
than meets the eye, it stretches way back

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 14:58
Last edited by tomplum: 9th Jan 2021 at 15:00:38

Posted by: Domin0 (189)

The map is an eyeopener for me Tom, we lived near the station on the opposite side and I used to walk over a field to fish in Nicol flash, or walk to were the Aldi is going to be and there was a dirt path from Nicol lane to the flash, no buildings or houses, the Star was there then, and that was where I joined Garswood Hall Anglers.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 17:27

Posted by: 0 years (inactive)

Is the Co-op still in Bryn, near the lights?

I used to work there in my late teens (late 70's early 80's).

I remember a couple of pubs that we used to frequent too, the Oddfellows arms and the Bath Springs.

I had a great time up there as a lad. Are they still open?
The jukebox was spot on int' thoddies.
I seem to remember the Bath Springs was a bit ropey though.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 18:09
Last edited by 0 years: 9th Jan 2021 at 18:13:44

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

0years the Co-op is now McCalls and the Baths Springs is the only pub left at Bryn.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 18:32

Posted by: 0 years (inactive)

Thanks for that PeterP.

Shame about the Co-op. I don't remember many of the staff apart from the assistant manager at the time, John Bullen, great bloke with a superb sense of humour. Oh, how times change.

I would have thought the Bath Springs would have been the first pub to go, just shows what I know.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 18:42
Last edited by 0 years: 9th Jan 2021 at 18:46:49

Posted by: broady (16773) 

Was there a pub called “ The Britannia” around there. Seem to remember it having a landlady in the 70’s.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 19:28

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

Broady the Britannia was next to the railways station site now Ashton Tyre and Exhaust and a car respray unit, The Oddfellows was pulled down and is now the site of a vets . The Golden Ball pulled down housing estate being built. The Park Hotel is still there . The Cranberry/Cinders wood pulled down and now two lots of apartments.The Red Lion now a house.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 19:38

Posted by: broady (16773) 

Bloody hell Have they all gone teetotal in that area?

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 19:49

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

can anyone remember name of the social club on corner bryn road and nicol road? I cant

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 19:56

Posted by: TerryW (6276)

Drum & Monkey.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 19:59

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

thanks Terry but it was deffo renamed something else in it's last days.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:02

Posted by: TerryW (6276)

I know it was called the North Ward Labour Club at some point.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:03

Posted by: Billinge Biker (670)

Blood tub

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:07

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

Just checked wigan planning web. It was the Ashfield Club at end of it's days , just known as "the Ashfield".

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:09

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

pewfall that club is the bowling club, still open ,the blood tub was the labour club in Ashton on bolton road,

edit, I'm wrong I was thinking the other end of Nicol Road

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:14
Last edited by tomplum: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:20:19

Posted by: TerryW (6276)

Thought the Blood Tub was Ashton labour club?

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:16

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

Sorry i stand corrected, Terry was right, it was the drum and monkey, later named the ashfield before it closed and was made into houses/flats,

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:17

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

most politely No tom, the Ashfield club was demolished around year 2000 and flats built. ave a look at 322 Bryn Rd, Ashton in makerfield on google maps street view to see where it was.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:20

Posted by: TerryW (6276)

Well we got the Blood Tub reet.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:21

Posted by: TerryW (6276)

Just found this.

"Comment by: David Ward on 14th January 2017 at 17:37
The drum and monkey was originally a pub of the same name The North Ward Labour Club was originally on Wigan Road mear to gorners garage but moved to the drum later on. The Labour Club was started by my grandfather and his friend both of whom were Labour Councillors in Ashton Mr North and my grandad Ward thereby giving its official name of North Ward Labour Club. My Dad and his brother went there nearly every night after work uncle wilf worked in the pit at golborne and my Dad started off as an apprentice plumber for Ashton UDC. Memories of that place still fill my heart with joy its just a shame that its now a block of apartments."

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:22

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

aye apply named too

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:23

Posted by: PeterP (8478)

Broady even the Park Lane Club shut on Downall Green Road. There are four watering holes from Bryn to Ashton.Bryn labour club -Garswood Hall B&C Club -Jubilee club and on Low Bank road the Pit Pony. Sign of the times

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:32

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

Twas the Ashfield at very end, honest ! I used to nip in the place. just found planning permission to demolish it April 2001 and build flats.... ref A/01/53942/RM. thanks all for helping me awful memory..

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:34

Posted by: tonker (23409) 

Bryn my arse! It's Ashton in Makerfield and has been since the Domesday book!!

Anyroadup, I've been to Aldi,in Ashton, today and Iasked the checkout girl who, in turn, asked the manager, about this. Nobody there had heard about it!

However, the other checkout girl, who I know, told me that 'them men' had been round assessing the Ashton store for a revamp, to be like Haydock one and they said it wasn'tworth it.

There's a clue!

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:45

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (6947)

Well Lidl in Golborne moved to larger premises

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:50

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

Aye, deep breath for Tonker.. I said Bryn Road cos that's where place used to be. Tis still the same Bryn road now and i even mentioned Ashton in Makerfield for ya.. Bryn isnt a place....... back on topic.. i had a look as wigan planning on there for this Aldi or any new shop on corner Wigan road and nicol road.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 20:57

Posted by: tonker (23409) 

Yes, Pewfall, I wouldn't've said that site would be used for a supermarket,but there you go, you never know!
I'd've said it would be a potential site for housing.

You know, Ashton in Makerfield folk are spoiled for choice for shopping. But, you need a car and not everybody has one.
I feel for the elderly. There's a Co-Op in Westhoughton (well, it's something else now), on Market Street. I was in the queue one day, getting a butty and a banana for my lunch. An old lady, in front of me, had just one basket of food etc., along with a loaf. I'd guess at £15 to £20 worth in Aldi or Lidl's. The cashier put it all through, passing it to the old lady, who then put it in her shopping trolley.
When she asked her for £40 odd for payment I couldn't believe what I heard. I could've dropped t'crab!!
All Co-Ops should be closed down, for fraudulent trading!

It was hit hard by the new Aldi, but old folks swear by it! More fool them!

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 21:15

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

agree Tonker Co-op was started in rochdale by poor folk sick of being ripped off further by aving to shop in overpriced employers own shop yet now it's costliest place going. They recently started online shopping + delivery.... I used it 3 times. They then banned me cos i ordered too many items...joke u not...max order is 20 items.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 21:26

Posted by: tomplum (7324) 

old folks think they will get rewarded for loyalty, they use the same insurance companies, same bank, always stay local and get ripped off to high heaven, Its the conditioning they had during the bad years, post war when everyone pulled together,

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 21:30

Posted by: Pewfall (151) 

too true tom.... ya know i spent about £800 in December with co-op and used their blue loyalty card each time. I got a 'free' 64p to spend in their overpriced expensive shop. I also got loads divi points but they mean nuffin now, honest, i remember those stamps too. I also got to give 29p to charity by default paid to Red Cross with Mike Adamson CEO on basic get outa bed pay of £173, 000.

Replied: 9th Jan 2021 at 21:46

Posted by: Billinge Biker (670)

If it goes ahead.... Wigan metro solution. 4 way traffic lights.!!

Replied: 10th Jan 2021 at 14:16


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