The thought police

WW is read all over the world and I wonder if the thought police are monitoring our comments on the threads Who will be the 1st to be censored by them or hauled into court because there is no such thing has free speech now

I've said it a number of times on here, Peter, that it's not just the people on this site that reads here. It's open to everyone who uses the internet. We get many people reading threads, sometimes in the thousands like Jacks' Poems thread, with few replies by anyone here. All open forums are read, and not just by "passers-by!"

I've often wondered what they must think of the petty squabbling and bickering that goes on in here every now and again. Wiganners are (supposedly) a friendly, welcoming bunch of folk so, with that in mind, it can get fairly embarrassing to read such bickering, most especially from older members of the community and, don't forget, we don't know who, or what, is watching.

"Wiganners are (supposedly) a friendly, welcoming bunch of folk .... "

Ha.! but, there's no proper Wiganers on here!!

PS: except Momac, laaaaike!

PPS: and gaffer, maybe !!

PPPS: oh., and MollieM. But definately NOT Tomplum !!!

Don't start that again!

I'm a proper Wiganer, born and brought up in Darlington Street, Wigan, so there. Had you forgotten?

Tonkers jealous of us proper Wiganers, he's a Yicker

He's got a short memory as well.

Grrr!

his memory was fine until he fawd of a roof in Spain laaaaaike,

I know, Tom. Must be rotten for him as that was a bad gash.

Anyway, back to Peter's topic. What are your thoughts?

Thoughts about what?

we are a grain of sand on a big beach or a drop of water in the ocean, Yes many read but, how many are human, The World is full of bots, They read and soak info up but, If no one is interested in squabbles, it just rolls off the convayer belt,

Hast forgetten agen already? Peter's thread. It's the one at the top.

Another grrr!

Oh., yeah! Indiana wants me, but I can't go back there!!

I'm one, laaaaike!

Tom, that's exactly my point, but what are the bots doing with it? There have been 72 views here and just 13 replies between the three of us.

The bots collect the information and rearrange it for their own controllers who, then sell it for adverts and make websites for the know nowts, Mollie, Tonker and myself supply google with facts that others go to to find stuff out on,
Oh and aliens also read our posts too,

tonker

Have they got a St Georges Home in Indiana?

Take no notice of thread views and replies comparison. It means nothing.

Lots of members on Wiganworld view threads but have never posted even though they have been members for many, many years?
Also, I personally view threads several times without contributing and posting on it as I don't think it's worthwhile commenting on.

I suspect many regular posting members do exactly the same.

cheshirecat

So are you saying that posters have to say nothing about what is now happening in our country because that appears to be now the case on Wigan World with the silence that has decended over the last few weeks.

Perhaps, in places like Wigan, it is the embarressment about what they have seen so far from the party they voted for at last years general election that has caused the problem.

I think your hatred of the Labour party is affecting your judgement.

I was not referring to any particular topic. I was referring to all threads, across all of the boards.

For instance, I have no interest in hedgehogs. Nor do I have a favourite film or remotely interested in womens or mens football.

But I like to view the threads and respect other peoples opinions and see what they think.

Posted by: cheshirecat (1731) View cheshirecat's page

Take no notice of thread views and replies comparison. It means nothing.

Lots of members on Wiganworld view threads but have never posted even though they have been members for many, many years?
Also, I personally view threads several times without contributing and posting on it as I don't think it's worthwhile commenting on.

I suspect many regular posting members do exactly the same.

You are 100% right there Mrs Cat, especially about people who joined Wigan World years ago and have never posted. There are hundreds of them, and that's their prerogative. I don't reply in posts that hold no interest to me either.

As a general rule I don't join in with any topics about politics because, unless the people posting are actively trying to do something about the situation, then there's nothing they can do about it, plus the fact that it's against Forum Rules to discuss it, but nothing's done about that either. Brian got rid of the Politics section years ago because it was causing too much trouble, but perhaps it should be reinstated, and sport should remain in the Sports section, but we can't have everything.

Posted by: cheshirecat (1731) View cheshirecat's page

Take no notice of thread views and replies comparison. It means nothing.

Lots of members on Wiganworld view threads but have never posted even though they have been members for many, many years?
Also, I personally view threads several times without contributing and posting on it as I don't think it's worthwhile commenting on.

I suspect many regular posting members do exactly the same.

You are 100% right there Mrs Cat, especially about people who joined Wigan World years ago and have never posted. There are hundreds of them, and that's their prerogative. I don't reply in posts that hold no interest to me either.

As a general rule I don't join in with any topics about politics because, unless the people posting are actively trying to do something about the situation, then there's nothing they can do about it, plus the fact that it's against Forum Rules to discuss it, but nothing's done about that either. Brian got rid of the Politics section years ago because it was causing too much trouble, but perhaps it should be reinstated, and sport should remain in the Sports section, but we can't have everything.

cheshirecat

No hatred of the Labour affecting my judgement.

Like many other people who have voted Labour for most all their lives I now find it appalling that a socialist party which was founded to better the lives of ordinary people has now become no different than the Tories in dealing with the economic running of the country, solving the problem of the homeless living on the streets despite all the house building and doing nothing about the immigrant invasion of our green and pleasent land.

That's the reason why many have stopped posting!

It's a simple answer, most people post on Facebook and the like. A few people like myself have got a smart phone but it is not connected to the Internet, simply because I have no interest in what folk have had for their meal or what they are building etc. A lot of people are just naturally nosey but I am not one of them.

Such a pity that politics has once again reared its head in a topic which had nothing to do with the subject matter.

The self appointed censor has spoken!

Rio
there are people who are interested in different foods or quirky habits about food. also have an interest in garden projects thats why they post
Old codger
Mollie is not the self appointed censor
If you care to refresh yourself by reading the site rules which you signed up to POLITICS are NOT ALLOWED on this site.
Generally Ron (who monitors the site for Brian who owns the site) turns a blind eye to politics being posted.
Back to my original question do the police monitor WW or do they think us older fogies are not a threat to national security. Are any of us going to get a knock on the door because FREE speech does not exist any more and BIG BROTHER could be watching you. Don't forget we have a two tiered justice system where some people get jailed for speaking their minds and others get away with it

Peter P

If people want to talk about politic's which at the present time is only to be expected with the terrible state of our country under the present government, they have every right to do so even if it does not meet with the approval of those who are not interested in the subject.

When the previous government was in power, there were quite a few posters ( now absent) who were only too willing to talk about political scene at the time and the running of the country and as I recall, not many objections were being made then!

Perhaps the reason for not wanting politicis to be dicussed is because most of the people in Wigan and no doubt on Wigan World are of one party political thinking which has prompted any complaints about politics being discussed.

were on site rules does it say politics not allowed

Surfer Tom I stand corrected has to the present day rules but in the past after the politics section was scrapped by Brian it was in the rules then to stop people opening a thread about politics.

I think you should have to register with your postcode, and this should show after your name, so that members can avoid communicating with the lower classes.

so it it looks like you and your moderater friend are both wrong and we have your permisson from you and mollie to post threads about politics why don,t you let old codger know

Surfer Tom

There used to be a separate message board for politics which survived until the Community Action Party came into being. Unfortunately the tone of the posts became unacceptable resulting in Brian scrapping the politics message board. Over a period of time political points emerged on the general message board, it continues to this day.

How strange that prior to July of last year, there was no issue about political comments being made on Wigan World, but now for some reason, objections have appeared.

Perhaps, it's because the comments being about the major issues affecting the country are not what some posters want to see or hear about where the present government is concerned?

BUT .............

When is a poly tick, not a poly tick, but it is a current affair ?

OC You're probably correct.

The Tories are facing extinction, deservedly so, after governing as continuity Blair from Cameron onwards.
The Labour party will suffer the same fate unless they remove Starmer, Reeves and Milliband. Starmer is too much the human rights lawyer to put a stop to illegal migration. Reeves is out of her depth and has made too many strategic mistakes that is having a negative growth effect across swathes of UK businesses. Milliband's mad rush to net Zero is leading to deindustrialisation of British industry.
Example below.

Politics will always trump policy, the short-term imperative eclipsing the long-term strategic goal. Fifty years ago this autumn, the UK outpost of the American auto giant Chrysler was in crisis. The Wilson government of the mid-1970s, limping from predicament to calamity, nonetheless prided itself on having an industrial strategy that would determine policy decisions: the regeneration of British industry and enhancing economic performance was paramount, and no more supporting lame ducks.
But just as few military battleplans survive engagement with the enemy, so not many industrial strategies stand up to a looming catastrophe.
Chrysler’s Michigan headquarters decided to close its plants in the Midlands and near Glasgow. Despite the impending loss of thousands of jobs, ministers initially took a Darwinian view that there was no point intervening, especially on behalf of a US multinational.
Chrysler then hinted it may have a rescue plan. Wilson, with one eye on the rise of Scottish nationalism and the future of Scotland’s last car plant, and the other on his wafer-thin parliamentary majority, folded and ordered a Treasury-backed rescue. Industrial strategy was, after all, about backing lame ducks — as the subsequent demise of Chrysler UK testifies.
Fifty years later, two reasons can be given for the series of interventions by the latest Labour government in the steel industry: ten years of Conservative governments putting off a reckoning on what the UK’s steel industry should look like; and a political landscape in which every industrial crisis risks being a gift to Reform UK.

Meanwhile, a cataclysm may be arriving on the horizon. The decline and possible fall of Nissan as an international automotive firm is playing out in plain sight.
Nissan’s Sunderland plant is emblematic for the UK. It is the country’s last big volume car manufacturer, a totem for the transition to electric motoring and investment in gigafactories, the country’s largest single automotive plant, and it provides 7,000 jobs in the northeast, where it is the biggest private sector employer.
Nissan is regarded as having, in Sunderland, one of the best workforces in the world and a factory pre-eminent in productivity.
Yet the plant can’t afford its runaway energy bills nor its inflated labour costs, exacerbated by increases in employment taxes.
Nissan Sunderland may not yet become another Chrysler UK. But if Labour ministers are not preparing for the multiple what-ifs of a disaster in the northeast then their industrial strategy is not worth the ink and paper.
The Times

Gaffer,

Thank you for your factual contribution.

Posted by: cheshirecat (1731) View cheshirecat's page

I personally view threads several times without contributing and posting on it

As I do because I seem to get attacked by the "usual suspects" when i post