Lisa

Not got a clue

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What is Lisa Nandy and her government going to do about the attack on the RAF Air force Base by "people" who belong to Palestine Action ?

Time they organised free boat trips to the Tower of London for them and I don't mean just to view the crown jewels or the ravens!

a proud latic's supporter

Sorry, I forgot you are in love with Lisa!

There's nowt wrong with Lisa, so leave her alone

OC, if you want a moan, which is unusual for you, open up your own thread

OC, there you go

Lisa

So there you have it, Lisa only thinks it's only bad behavior!

Many might be saying far worse and questioning how did they get into what is a top secret air force base without being seen by the security guards.

No wonder being a cabinet minister, she looks embarrassed!

Posted by: Owd Codger (4410)

"how did they get into what is a top secret air force base without being seen by the security guards."

I would hazard a guess and say, it's bad security guarding!
Surely you can't blame a cabinet minister for the incompetence of employees?

Back to the topic.
I have nothing but compassion for disabled people, to take away their pips
is nothing short of a disgrace. I do agree that the "benefits" system needs to be looked at and it must be a worrying time for people. Lets not forget that some may have been economical with truth with their application for pip. That can also be said about benefits in general.

Cheshirecat

And it does not take long for you to pop up and make a comment on whatever I say.

It never fails!

well said FM

A few facts
As of May 2025 1.7 million people were claiming Unemployment Benefit.
.. ( House of Commons Library)

There were 736,000 job vacancies in the 3 months to May 2025. The fewest since May 2021. (Office of National Statistics)

As of April 2025, 3.7 million people are claiming P.I.P (DWP).

Businesses are cutting back on recruitment because of
1) The hike in Business Rates
2) The hike in Employers National Insurance Contributions.
3) The rise in the Minimum Wage.

So please can anyone tell me how many of these people on P.I.P. will be able to find a job and how many firms will be willing to employ someone who isn't fully fit ??

Yvonne had a massive stroke in 2012 which nearly killed her and she was given the lower rate of DLA because she could not make a hot meal safely. In 2016 I reapplied for (DLA)PIP and after filling all the forms in she had to go to Bolton for an assessment. She ended up with the Enhanced Higher Limit with 22 points anything over 12 points at the time got you onto the EH limit. She remained on this up to passing away(June 23rd 2024) and if she had still been with us would have had a review next year

Remploy provided work for disabled people. Were they all shut down?

The last Remploy factory closed in 2013 but Remploy still tried to find work for disabled people up to 2022

Remploy Wigan Closes LINK

Thank you apls. I remember that now.

Posted by: hollyH
"So please can anyone tell me how many of these people on P.I.P. will be able to find a job"

It begs the question, how many people who are on the highest mobility rate and care component rate of P.I.P would want to work even if they were capable!

You can claim PIP and still be employed in work, without it affecting your claim.

but thicko Lisa didn't no that CC

It used to be the case that companies had to employ at least 3% of the workforce as registered disabled. Small businesses with less 20 employees were exempt.
In most cases the opportunities available could be matched to most of the people with disabilities. However, there was a need to modify machinery, or to rearrange the way the work was done, to accommodate the more severe disabilities.

When the disability discrimination act was introduced, employees had to try to accomodate the affected employees.

In a lot of cases depending on the job at hand, it wasn't always possible to achieve that.

Same when they brought the law in about accessibility, that didn't work

Why were women not allowed to be miners ?

Don't ruin such a serious thread, slap

The 1944 Disabled Persons (Employment) Act required employers with more than 20 employees to have at least 3% of their employees as registered disabled. It was, in part, a recognition that thousands of troops retuning from the war would have disabilities and would require suitable employment.
The employment requirements in the act were shelved in the nineties.

APLS
women were banned from working underground by an act of Parliament. However, thousands of women found wok as pit brow lasses.
My great aunt Charlotte was awarded the British Empire Medal after working for over 50 years at the Crow Pit aka Long Lane colliery. Long Lane eventually became Bryn Road.

As an employer, Wigan Council may fail on some things, but where providing facilities for their staff, service users and visitors with disabilities is concerned they are very good.

Gaffer

Correct, the reason why unlike many other manual jobs which were done done by women in the war, many men in the mining industry were exempt from being in the armed forces and had to carry on working underground.

My father who was the youngest of four brothers, three of whom were conscripted into the armed forces was a "Bevin boy" and on their insistance because of their father (my grandfather) being unable to work as a result of losing a leg in the first world war and unlike today, no benefit system to provide an income for himself and my grandmother, went underground.

Thank you Gaffer

Owd Codger

Thank you for explaining that