The new UK-EU deal

This new UK-EU deal thing, is it the best thing invented since sliced bread, or is it a load of crap.


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What do you think ?

I only know that in 2016, a referendum was held and the majority of the electorate made a democratic decision to come out of the European Union!

Is Starmer any relation to Scargill He wants to dictate policies and try to go against Brexit which was voted for by the people

Owd Codger & PeterP

Yes, that is what happened, we voted to leave the EU in 2016, and we left in 2020 and completed leaving in 2021 at the end of the transition period, but is this latest deal a reversal of Brexit ?

a proud latic's supporter

Yes, but not by the front door, but the back door which undermimes the decision of the electorate in 2016.

If Starmer and his Government beleive that the majority of the electorate want to re-enter the European Union, they should either have the guts to have a new referendum or even have a general election to request a vote of confidence by the electorate of their obvious EU Policy of re-entry.

Posted by: a proud latics supporter
" but is this latest deal a reversal of Brexit ?"

No. But it's a good start.
There hasn't been much hooting and hollering about it from the remainers. So, that should tell you something

Cheshire Puss

"There hasn't been much hooting and hollering about it from the remainers"

Are yoo sure about that Puss.



To me those 'Remainers' looked to be Cocka-a-Hoop about the deal.

Do we take it that you support re-entry by the back door and not by the front door of a democratic decision of the electorate on what is a policy which affects the lives of everyone in our country and not just those with a vested interest?

Oh, and from what I saw in the newspaper headlines yesterday, the only hooting and hollering was by the Daily Mirror which comes as no surprise!

Owd Codger said:

"Do we take it that you support re-entry by the back door"

No I don't

a proud latic's supporter

Neither should anyone who believes in democracy!

Tim Stanley Daily Telegraph sketch.

Starmer succumbs to the EU hook, line and sinker
Brexit has been de-boned as we’ve returned to paying Brussels for the opportunity to follow its rules.
Prime Minister,” asked Chris Hope at the EU/UK summit, “have you been stitched up like a kipper?” It’s worse than that, mon ami: the Eurocrats have put him in his plaice and he’s dancing to their tuna. Excuse the puns, but once you start, it’s hard to break the halibut.
Let historians note that Brexit was finally de-boned on Sunday night, when Europe’s top diplomats – or, as our Foreign Secretary allegedly calls them, “the f------ French” – took Starmer aside to say they’ve had second thoughts about his offer and would like our fishing industry, too.
I’m sure it took our very own Metternich about two minutes to fold. This is the trade deal whizz-kid who was meant to sell Chagos to a tiny African country and ended up paying them – plus he loves the EU and would gladly feed Captain Birdseye to the sharks if it got us back in.
So Keir Starmer, proud son of an EU protocol, looked very satisfied when he unveiled the agreement next day at Lancaster House – the beautiful decor symbolically hidden behind a temporary stage painted battleship grey. Ursula von der Leyen, standing next to him, was subtly dressed as an EU flag. She looked ready to plant herself in the ground and never leave.
This is Europe. This is our PM. Utilitarian, corporate, moving forward “at pace”. Bear in mind this deal was supposed to be a simple exchange: they get our fish in exchange for faster queues at border control. Perfectly suited to Brits who fly to Ibiza more often than we eat sardines.
Yet the talk was of being good Europeans and of protecting the “rules-based order”, with visiting rights for noisy foreign students – why do they shout on trains? – pitched as the first step towards a more enlightened world. More summits predicted: climb every butter mountain.
Finding himself among like-minded bureaucrats, Sir Keir referred progressively to “fishermen and fisherwomen” – but not to “e-gates and she gates”, or to “fisher people”, even though many of them refuse to be defined by their tackle.
“Britain is back on the world stage,” he declared. Really? Where has it been? Perhaps doing repertory theatre in Outer Mongolia. The cost of his statesmanship – and we’re lucky he didn’t throw in the Elgin Marbles and Princess Anne to sweeten the deal – is that we’ve returned to paying the EU for the opportunity to follow its rules.
It’s like being a member of the EU minus the pleasures of moaning about being in the EU. In fact, it’s proven harder to get Britain out of Brussels than it was to get Gary Lineker out of the BBC, and, in both cases, one suspects the decision will soon be reversed.
Cab drivers must now be asking why they voted for Brexit at all. “Twelve years minus our fishing rights? You get less for murder.” (Though longer for joking about it on social media). The Eurocrats, by biding their time and waiting for a proper chump to enter No 10, have seen history move back in their favour.
Chris Hope was right. They’ve got us by the eel.

a proud latic's supporter

You asked for opinions about the deal, so why put the purple face following Gaffers posting?

Owd Codger

The purple face as you call it, is the 'Shock' emoji, smilie, or whatever you want to call it, it means that I am 'shocked'

- Shocked
- Angry
- Disgusted

owd codger..
you talk about democracy the conserative have no idea what it means .after cameron they voted five
prime ministers in and then they voted them out
because they were all crap, and only the conservatives got a vote nobody else was allowed a vote . your a laughing stock if you think thats democracy. ha ha

Surfer Tom

Can you name the five Prime Ministers?

Sir Piers slowly but surely righting all the Tory cock ups keep them Tories whinging sir kier

In alphabetical order?